Wednesday, 2018-12-12

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dkrol#startmeeting trove14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 12 14:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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dkrolHello14:00
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mpiwowarczyhi all14:00
dkrolHello14:00
cezary_zukowski_hi14:00
dkrolHow are you all?14:00
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cezary_zukowski_not bad, much work before christmas :)14:01
mpiwowarczydkrol: thanks, fine - i'm already on christmas holidays :)14:01
cezary_zukowski_and you?14:01
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dkrol_Hi14:02
dkrol_Can we start?14:03
mpiwowarczydkrol: fine by me14:03
dkrol_I have some problems with connectivity :/14:04
dkrol_#topic recent changes14:04
dkrol_I would like to start with info about new changes and commit14:04
mpiwowarczyyeah, there are not many14:05
dkrol_I saw only a few commits in the last week and I was able to review most of them14:05
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dkrol_Do you still have time to work on trove during business hours?14:06
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bzurkowskiHello14:06
mpiwowarczyin last time almost entirely14:06
mpiwowarczywe have a very busy schedule for internal requirements14:07
mpiwowarczybzurkowski: hi14:07
cezary_zukowski_yeah, true :(14:07
dkrol_Hmmm... So do you mean you have time or not? :)14:07
bzurkowskiSorry guys, I'm late... What is the context?14:08
mpiwowarczynot for community work :)14:08
dkrol_Ok,14:08
dkrol_My question was do you have time to work on trove during business hours?14:09
bzurkowskiMmm14:09
bzurkowskiTough question14:10
dkrol_And second question is - will it change in the next week's?14:10
dkrol_Context is that there was not so many changes/commits in the last week14:10
bzurkowskiYea, I am also very sad about it14:10
mpiwowarczydkrol: next week's? I don't think so14:11
bzurkowskiNext week will not be better than this one14:11
bzurkowskiI have a suggestion14:11
bzurkowskiGuys14:11
bzurkowskiThere are only 5 of us at the moment14:12
dkrol_Second week of January is Stein milestone 214:12
bzurkowskiWe all have very limited time for contribution14:12
bzurkowskiI cannot see much progress in working on multiple changes in parallel14:13
bzurkowskiIndividually14:13
bzurkowskiMaybe we should decide on one change to focus on during the next week14:13
bzurkowskiAnd put all resources on delivering this change14:14
bzurkowskiOtherwise we are opened in many different changes14:14
bzurkowskiNo time for reviews and patches14:14
dkrol_This is good idea but I think we should have one change per person14:14
bzurkowskiE.g. this week we could focus on pushing through Darek's work on Devstack or Marcin's work on Python 3 support14:15
dkrol_As it is hard to work on the same change14:15
mpiwowarczydkrol: why do you ask all this? are there any requirements on milestone 214:15
bzurkowskidkrol: Good point14:15
cezary_zukowski_I am wondering about authorship issues if working on a sole change14:16
dkrol_I'm asking because I see slower pace than before14:16
bzurkowskiThen maybe we should put cumulative focus in terms of reviews?14:16
dkrol_And I would like to have some features implemented in Stein release :)14:16
mpiwowarczydkrol: I see14:16
dkrol_I agree we can focus only on few changes regarding reviews14:17
dkrol_I see 2 main open changes right know14:17
dkrol_Python 3 support and devstack image14:17
bzurkowskiYes14:17
bzurkowskiLet's close at least one in the upcoming week14:18
mpiwowarczyboth are almost done14:18
dkrol_And we have 2 core reviews for each14:18
dkrol_Yesterday I thought python 3 is done :)14:19
bzurkowskiIt is very ready at the moment :)14:19
bzurkowskiQuick glance and it can be merged14:19
dkrol_Ok, I will add review today14:20
bzurkowskiI propose to focus on this one in the first place14:20
mpiwowarczydkrol: I saw your +2, I have added small change according to bzurkowki comments14:20
dkrol_Great14:21
dkrol_My second question is related to milestones and release14:21
dkrol_We don't have so much time till release giving our current paste14:22
dkrol_And I would be much more happy knowing that you have more time during the day to work on trove :)14:22
dkrol_Paste - >pace14:23
dkrol_Python 3 is definitely the main focus14:23
dkrol_Then there is devstack image14:23
dkrol_As it is already implemented14:24
dkrol_And then I see the next goal - pre upgrade checks14:24
bzurkowskiPre-upgrade checks?14:24
bzurkowskiThe second goal14:24
dkrol_But this is something for 1 person14:24
mpiwowarczythere is already implemented skeleton14:24
mpiwowarczywe just need to add procedures14:24
dkrol_I was thinking to start working on it14:25
dkrol_Do you have anything else started?14:25
dkrol_Besides documentation? :)14:25
bzurkowskiNot from my side14:25
cezary_zukowski_no update on docs compared with past week :)14:26
mpiwowarczynothing14:26
bzurkowskiPure sadness...14:26
dkrol_Hmm... So maybe something on the horizon?14:26
bzurkowskiWell14:27
bzurkowskiWe should definitely plan further work according to goals that we presented at Summit14:27
bzurkowskiIn particular the ones reported by operators14:27
mpiwowarczy+114:28
dkrol_Operators?14:28
bzurkowskihttps://www.openstack.org/assets/presentation-media/Trove-Project-Update-Final.pdf14:28
bzurkowskidkrol: We had discussions with people at Summit regarding issues in Trove14:28
dkrol_List of priorities has osc migration, migrate to user data, tempest14:29
bzurkowskiMain concern was related to building guest images and security14:29
bzurkowskiWhat about Nova deprecation issue?14:29
bzurkowskiWhat is the deadline for this?14:29
bzurkowskiIf Nova drops personality files before we migrate to user data Trove will be in trouble14:29
dkrol_Not sure, but not this release14:30
bzurkowskiWe must be sure :)14:30
bzurkowskiThere is a spec for this migration14:30
mpiwowarczycan anyone check it?14:30
mpiwowarczyor I will do that14:31
bzurkowskiFast way would be to ask in their IRC channel14:31
bzurkowskiThey are big, they should be responsive14:31
bzurkowskiMaybe they will suggest better alternative14:31
dkrol_I cannot find it right know14:32
mpiwowarczyok, I will ask14:32
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dkrol_There is suggestion14:32
bzurkowskimpiwowarczy: Great, thank you14:32
dkrol_There is everything besides implementation :)14:32
bzurkowskiNova deprecation issue is one thing14:33
dkrol_There is even a page on trove documentation about it14:33
bzurkowskiThere is whole spec14:34
dkrol_This is point 2 on my list14:34
bzurkowskiThe second feature worth considering is new communication channel between guest agent and control plane14:34
bzurkowskiMany people were asking about it14:34
bzurkowskiDo you remember?14:34
bzurkowskiCommunication channel similar to Octavia14:35
dkrol_Yes, but I remember I didn't understand security implication of it14:35
dkrol_Thats why I was hesitant about its priority14:35
bzurkowskiThe implication is that guestm in its configuration, has full cvredentials to message broker14:35
bzurkowskiIt can communicate with any OpenStack service14:36
dkrol_Hmm... But it can have a different user on rabbit mq with access to only one queue14:36
dkrol_You can configure user and password in guest agent14:37
bzurkowskiI'm not sure it is as easy as that14:37
bzurkowskiWhat about communication with Swift for backups?14:37
dkrol_And on the rabbit mq you can add also configuration14:37
mpiwowarczyguys, I think it's not the time for technical details :)14:37
dkrol_This is not related to rabbitmq14:38
bzurkowskiThis is RPC14:38
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bzurkowskiAll RPC happens via MB14:38
dkrol_But backup upload is direct with swift client right?14:39
bzurkowskiNeed to check14:39
mpiwowarczydkrol_: yes14:39
dkrol_Maybe we could have a call about it? :)14:39
bzurkowskiAnyway14:39
mpiwowarczydirectly to swift endpoint14:39
dkrol_Anyway14:39
bzurkowskiWe should drink some beers and have longer discussion ;)14:39
bzurkowskiTrove beer meeting14:40
dkrol_Agree14:40
dkrol_We should call it trove meet up14:40
bzurkowski4 more points in the agenda14:40
dkrol_Anyway this is a topic for another person14:40
bzurkowskiLet's listen to mpiwowarczy and move on14:40
dkrol_Ok but python 3 and the last item are done :)14:41
dkrol_#topic unstable integration tests14:41
dkrol_What about it?14:41
mpiwowarczyyes, this is what I have added to the agenda14:42
mpiwowarczyI have noticed today we have unstable all integration tests14:42
mpiwowarczythis is caused by upgraded devstack to Ubuntu Bionic version - this is commit from yesterday https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/5b5cf9dd31a3c01602e4ea7bf7a1a4c63c89e96d14:42
dkrol_We can't we use previous Ubuntu version?14:42
mpiwowarczydkrol_: trovestack is not compatible with Bionic14:43
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dkrol_I mean - let's use previous Ubuntu version14:43
mpiwowarczyyeah14:43
mpiwowarczythis is one possible solution14:43
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bzurkowskiCan we?14:44
bzurkowskiDo we have a choice? :p14:44
mpiwowarczybut before we need find a way how to execute devstack on Xenial as it was all the time14:44
mpiwowarczydon't know14:44
mpiwowarczythere is run-devstack ansible role14:44
dkrol_Probably we need to set some env variable14:44
mpiwowarczymaybe14:45
mpiwowarczybetter solution is to add compatybility for Bionic14:45
dkrol_Sure, but we lack time :/14:45
dkrol_So I recommend to stick to previous version if possible14:46
mpiwowarczysooner or later we will have to do that14:46
mpiwowarczyhmm14:46
bzurkowskiYea, it would be nice to have it compatible now14:47
bzurkowskiBut I agree with Darek14:47
bzurkowskiFirst things first14:47
mpiwowarczyif I will find some time I will have a look is this possible14:47
mpiwowarczyok14:47
dkrol_Ok, let's check how to have running tests even if it means using previous Ubuntu14:48
mpiwowarczydkrol_: ok14:48
dkrol_Next topic is python 3 support14:48
dkrol_#topic python 314:48
mpiwowarczywe have partialy cover this topic before14:49
dkrol_I assume we discussed it already14:49
bzurkowskimpiwowarczy: Are we done with this one after we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604816/ ?14:49
mpiwowarczyone more thing - I have updated etherpad14:49
mpiwowarczyprogress looks very positive - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pytho14:49
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dkrol_Good14:49
dkrol_We will need to update wiki after merge14:50
mpiwowarczybzurkowsk: with trove - yes14:50
mpiwowarczybut wi will have to update wiki tracking page14:50
bzurkowskimpiwowarczy: Looks great, good job!14:50
dkrol_Awesome!14:50
mpiwowarczyin the coming days, I will have to make research, how to update wiki14:50
dkrol_Will you have time?14:51
dkrol_Anyway14:51
mpiwowarczyhard to say14:51
dkrol_#topic documentation14:52
dkrol_Cezary said there is no progress14:52
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dkrol_Anything to add?14:52
cezary_zukowski_yeah, this week I didn't touch the subject14:52
mpiwowarczynothing14:52
dkrol_#topic next actions14:52
dkrol_This was related to my first questions14:53
dkrol_What to do to have more contributions in Stein than in Rocky :)14:53
dkrol_I suppose we have issues with finding time for contribution14:54
bzurkowskiWe must have more contributors...14:54
dkrol_So my question is about your prediction what will happen in the next 2-3 months?14:54
dkrol_This is 8-12 weeks only :/14:55
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dkrolAny last thought?14:56
bzurkowskiYes14:56
bzurkowskiFrom the beginning of the next year there should be a noticable increase in contributions to Trove14:56
dkrolIs it a wish or a plan?14:57
bzurkowskiConcrete plan14:57
dkrolGreat14:57
bzurkowskiPlan to do massive upstreaming of Samsung internal changes14:57
bzurkowskiWe will have resources to accomplish that14:57
bzurkowskiThis is what I can say at this point14:57
dkrolWonderful14:57
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dkrolLeta finish with this14:58
dkrolAnd think about trove meetup :)14:58
bzurkowskiWill keep it in mind ;)14:58
dkrolSee you14:58
bzurkowskiGreat talk guys14:58
bzurkowskiTake care!14:58
mpiwowarczybye14:58
cezary_zukowski_see you14:58
dkrol#endmeeting14:58
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bzurkowskiok14:59
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 12 15:00:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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e0nehi team15:00
e0neis anybody around for horizon meeting?15:01
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e0ne I'll wait 10 minutes more until close the meeting15:06
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amotokihi15:12
amotokiI am here but have nothing to discuss15:12
e0neamotoki: hi. I don't have any updates too15:12
amotokiI mentioned some nova panels were broken but it was fixed as bug 180546915:13
openstackbug 1805469 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "nova extension checking is broken" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1805469 - Assigned to Adrian Turjak (adriant-y)15:13
amotokiThe topic on tox in xstatic-* repos is still in my todo list.15:14
e0neI didn't finish mox removal:( last week15:15
e0neI hope, I'll do it this weekend15:15
amotokiduring debugging admin group panels, I noticed cinder considers all_teannts=0 (which cinder CLI sends to cinder) means all_tenants True... it is surprising15:16
e0nehm..15:17
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amotokito debug volume group panel, I usually use API directly15:17
e0neI need to check it15:17
amotokiprecisely I use oscurl which I and my friend develop.15:17
e0neusually, I use '--all-tenants=True/False'15:17
amotokiI can file bugs to cinderclient15:17
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e0nesounds reasonable15:18
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e0neis anything else to discuss or I'll close the meeting?15:22
amotokiI recently wrote a tool to check bug stats per project.15:22
amotokithis is the result of horizn http://paste.openstack.org/show/737141/15:22
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e0neit's interesting to get such stats by milestone15:23
amotokiyeah15:24
amotokiI will push it to my github repo soon15:24
e0nesounds interesting15:25
amotokie0ne: do you know the status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574310/ ?15:29
e0neI'll ask Vadym to update the patch with response15:29
amotokiit is good in new deployments but I cannot measure the impact in case of upgrades.15:29
e0ne+115:30
e0neI'll ask to check how does it affect upgrades15:31
amotokithanks15:33
e0neyou're welcom15:33
e0newelcome15:33
amotokiregarding EM of ocata, I would like to ask the horizon team whether we can be aware of possbile backports for ocata like https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=ocata-backport-potential15:34
amotokias of now, I am completely not checking ocata stuffs, so I don't check proposed patches to stable/ocata (even though there is nothing now)15:35
amotokiI hope you have time to understand what EM means.15:36
e0neI started reading about it but still not sure that I understood everything correct15:36
vishalmanchandae0ne: I think cinder didn't have tenant attribute for group volume.Can u confirm the same?15:39
e0neamotoki: I don't have strong opinion on it. we don't have a lot of backports to ocata now15:42
e0nevishalmanchanda: what do you mean? at least, it has project attribute in a model https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L18015:42
amotokie0ne: vishalmanchanda is working on admin volume group panel but according to https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/v3/index.html?expanded=list-groups-with-details-detail#list-groups-with-details we have no project_id information15:43
amotokiin a response of list groups API (even in "detail" mode)15:43
vishalmanchandaYeah that's what I mean15:43
amotokiI noticed it a while ago but I totally forgot it :(15:44
amotokiperhaps we can start the admin volume group panel without project_id and once cinder API supports it we can add it.15:46
amotokie0ne: re EM, I don't have a strong opinion either, but if we don't enter into EM I hope someone can be responsible for request like bug 1669450.15:47
openstackbug 1669450 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Python modals are not animated like angular modals" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669450 - Assigned to Rob Cresswell (robcresswell)15:47
e0neI'll take a look on it15:47
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amotokiI will be AFK for a while. feel free to close the meeting.15:49
e0neamotoki: thanks for joining me! see you next week15:50
e0ne#endmeeting15:50
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-12-12-15.00.txt15:50
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-12-12-15.00.log.html15:50
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