Monday, 2018-11-26

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efried#startmeeting nova-scheduler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 26 14:00:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)"14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:01
cdento/14:01
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efried#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler#Agenda_for_next_meeting14:01
tetsuroo/14:02
tssuryao/14:02
efriedI was out most of last week, and at summit the week before, and DST failed the week before that, so I apologize if the agenda is a bit light and I don't seem to know what's going on. It's not an illusion.14:02
efried#topic last meeting14:03
efried#link last minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-11-05-14.00.html14:03
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efriedThis was where cdent covered and he and jaypipes chatted for a few minutes while takashin looked on.14:04
cdentpretty much14:04
efried#topic specs and review14:04
efried#link latest pupdate: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-November/000189.html14:04
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efriedI have not read the pupdate yet. cdent, care to summarize and/or highlight the important bits?14:04
cdentmostly pointed out the changes related gpu reshaping and efried's cleaning up the resource tracker to be less chatty14:05
efriedight14:06
cdentthat there are a lot of specs that need updates from authors14:06
efriedI know I'm on that list14:06
cdentthat there is a lot of extraction-related code to review, within placement, nova, devstack14:06
mriedemdid the devstack change merge yet?14:06
mriedemi'm guessing no14:07
cdentas usual: reading the pupdate has lots of handy links and can drive your day14:07
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mriedemnope https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600162/14:07
mriedemoh just need frickler back on that14:07
cdentmriedem: not yet, and that was going to be one of my "opens" questions: is there anything we're waiting for or can we just go for it14:07
efriedwhat's the worst that could happen?14:07
cdentwe break other services with custom devstack jobs that weren't paying attention? that's unlikely though14:08
mriedemi don't really have a good answer, but i don't remember anyone saying "we really shouldn't merge the devstack change until x"14:08
efriedand revertible14:08
mriedemmerging it earlier is better for burn in time14:08
cdentand that would be a good kind of breakage as it would reveal things we need revealed14:08
cdentyes, definitely14:09
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cdenttetsuro found an issue with data migrations that could impact some situations, but we have fix designed already, see discussion on14:09
cdent#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619126/14:09
cdent(basically after dan's migration script runs we need to 'stamp' to have the alembic table present)14:10
cdentso yeah: let's merge the devstack change asap (the above won't imact that)14:10
cdent(well, actualy it might, but we can see)14:10
cdent(and if it does better to do the fix, asap)14:11
efriedit looks like frickler was +2 one PS ago, so that should be a relatively easy sell?14:11
cdentyes14:11
efriedCool. Whose action to go camp outside his house?14:11
* cdent has a tent14:12
mriedemi did it14:12
* cdent hopes to see the world burn14:12
efriedcool. Anything else for reviews or specs?14:12
cdentso there is a big pile of mostly trivial, or non-functional changes to placement that need generic review14:13
cdentcleanups that keep us well positioned for "next"14:13
cdentapprox 15 or so change in placement, eager for eyes14:14
efriedhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/placement+status:open14:14
efriedkind of thing?14:14
cdentya14:14
efriedor rather14:14
cdentof those14:14
cdent#link integrated template https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617565/14:14
efried#link placement changes needing review, mostly trivial https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/placement+status:open14:14
cdentis probably most important14:14
mriedemooo yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617565/ is very important if we land that devstack change14:15
cdentthere are several others in that collection which depends-on the devstack change14:16
cdentif they all go in in a swell foop we have some pretty nice testing14:16
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cdentbut also a slower gate :(14:16
mriedemi need to dig into this ENABLED_PYTHON3_PACKAGES variable14:17
cdentmriedem: there's some back and forth (to myself) about that on a grenade change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619552/14:18
mriedemefried is rebooting14:18
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cdentit took me 4ever to find14:18
cdenteven though I was pretty sure what the problem was14:18
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mriedemand this is only seen in the grenade py3 job right?14:19
cdentyeah14:19
cdentit's because swift _doesn't_ py314:19
mriedemand why wasn't it a problem before?14:19
mriedemi mean, i had passing runs on the grenade py3 job14:19
cdentbecause we had a depends-on in there that was changing something14:19
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efriedo/14:20
cdentthere are sadly too many variables involved that control which code you are looking at any given time and zuul and devstack/grenade aren't entirely behaving properly14:20
cdentin any case: the thing I added to devstack doesn't fix the grenade problem14:20
cdentthat's just there as a completeness/precaution thing14:21
cdentthe fix in grenade was to reinstall python-openstackclient14:21
cdentso that the right one is on the path14:21
mriedemyeah i'll dig in after the meeting14:21
cdentif we were in the golden age of grenade we'd spend some time making this cleaner, but unclear if we have the cylces :(14:22
mriedemwe don't14:22
mriedemit's dan and i keeping the lights on14:22
efriedSorry for the hitch there, folks. Eavesdrop hasn't caught up yet, so apologies if we're past this, but I was saying that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617565/ is another example of a patch that changes zuul config, but doesn't run the things being configured, right?14:23
cdentwoot. I have asked (internally) and may be able to get some but given I'm already something like 150% over time14:23
mriedemefried: it does14:23
mriedemit's running tempest py3 and grenade py314:23
efriedahcrap, I pulled up another random patch for comparison, but it just happened to be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619299/14:24
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cdentI'm confused what your question actually is/was efried ?14:25
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efriedIt's cool. I had noticed a week or two ago that, for some .zuul.yaml changes, the patch in which you make the change doesn't actually run the job you added. It may have been a reno or other doc-ish change in that case.14:26
efriedSo +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617565/ - but it looks like the deps still have some way to go.14:28
mriedemdeps are light actually, should have those done soonish14:28
mriedemi'll update the zuul template one after the meeting14:28
mriedemand i'm looking at grenade now14:28
efriedOkay, any other reviews or specs to highlight before we move on?14:29
cdentIt would probably be good/best if we can merge all this stuff this week so that we have a couple weeks before xmas to clear up any chaos, so that we don't leave a mess. I'm not expecting a huge mess or anything, but better safe than sorry.14:29
cdentI think we can probalby move on, as long as people are going to be good people and read the pupdate14:29
* efried pinky swears14:29
efriedAnything else related to14:30
efried#topic Extraction14:30
efriedwhich we seem to have mostly covered already?14:30
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efriedI'll throw these in here14:31
efriedlibvirt/xenapi reshaper series14:31
efried#link libvirt reshaper https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599208/14:31
efried#link xen reshaper (middle of series) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52104114:31
efriedstill needing reviews14:32
efried(from at least me, for sure)14:32
mriedemyeah i rebased the libvirt one before i left for thanksgiving,14:32
mriedembut that's as far as i got14:32
cdentyeah, we had a ml post earlier today asking for review on the xen ones14:32
cdentartom left a comment I absolutely loved on the libvirt one14:32
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mriedemheh artom is in for a treat in his numa-aware live migration bp then14:33
mriedemwelcome to nova/virt/hardware.py14:34
cdentyeah, treat14:34
mriedemcomments on the grenade fix btw for the swift/osc thing14:34
cdentyeah, just saw that, making a bug now14:35
efriedAny update on the FFU framework script for reshaper?14:35
cdentIf we don't have people who are trying to make FFU happen clamoring for that, do "we" need to care? As in: we can't do everything, but we can coordinate other people if they come along.14:36
efriedis it something where we can afford to wait until we really need it?14:37
cdentWhich we do you mean? Which deployment tools do FFU?14:38
efriedyes14:38
mriedemtripleo claims support for FFU,14:39
efriedoh, "which"14:39
mriedemand yes i tend to agree that those who care about it need to step up14:39
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efriedokay.14:40
efried#action us keep kicking reshaper FFU can down road14:41
efried#topic bugs14:41
efried#link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement14:41
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efriedanyone?14:41
efried#topic opens14:42
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efriedAnything else before we close?14:43
cdentI got nothing other than to say: I'm glad we're trying to build in some burn in time. In my personal testing things are working well, but every now and again things like what tetsuro finds come up14:43
efriedtetsuro has a flamethrower14:44
cdenthe's good like that14:44
efried...or something cleverly implying he's good at burn-in14:44
cdentclose enough14:44
* tetsuro googles flamethrower14:44
* efried waits for it14:45
cdentwe're never going to see tetsuro again as he disappears down a google hole14:45
mriedemhttps://www.google.com/search?q=the+thing+flamethrower&safe=off&client=firefox-b-1-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0vZKOpvLeAhVKQ6wKHZVeCpkQ_AUIDigB&biw=1536&bih=73814:45
mriedemnow tetsuro needs to watch the thing14:45
mriedemit's a staple for winter14:45
efried"burn in" would be a much harder colloquialism to explain14:45
cdentthe perfect holiday film14:45
efriedokay, thanks all, go do work.14:46
efried#endmeeting14:46
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