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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 09:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| masahito | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Good morning Blazar folks! | 09:00 |
| priteau | Or good evening for some | 09:00 |
| masahito | Good evening :-) | 09:00 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:00 |
| bertys | o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | Agenda for today: | 09:01 |
| priteau | 1. Project Update @ Berlin Summit | 09:01 |
| priteau | 2. stein-1 milestone | 09:01 |
| priteau | 3. OpenStack-wide Goals | 09:01 |
| priteau | 4. AOB | 09:01 |
| priteau | #topic Project Update @ Berlin Summit | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Update @ Berlin Summit (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:02 | |
| priteau | I asked if there was a specific slide template to use. We can reuse one that was provided at the Sydney summit, but it's not mandatory. | 09:03 |
| priteau | I created a file based on this template. | 09:03 |
| masahito | Thanks, I received your invite mail. | 09:04 |
| priteau | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nsuiQe72E0cYELSI8qLmNwVm4SOXzuf01akzqKEZ1TE/edit?usp=sharing | 09:04 |
| tetsuro | I saw that, too. | 09:05 |
| priteau | tetsuro, bertys: If you have Google-enabled email addresses that you want to use to contribute to the slides, please share them with me and I will add you | 09:05 |
| bertys | priteau: will do offline. Thanks | 09:06 |
| priteau | I don't really want to allow anyone with the link to edit since it can be found in IRC logs | 09:07 |
| tetsuro | Could you add me as tnakamura.openstack@gmail.com? | 09:07 |
| priteau | Done | 09:08 |
| priteau | I also created a Google Drive folder to keep all our presentations in one place | 09:08 |
| tetsuro | thx! | 09:08 |
| priteau | Currently there is the Boston project update, Vancouver project onboarding, and Berlin project update | 09:09 |
| priteau | masahito: I think in Vancouver there was also a project update? | 09:09 |
| masahito | I'll add Vancouver project update. | 09:09 |
| priteau | Thank you! | 09:09 |
| priteau | masahito: Do you want to contribute Rocky update and I will work on the Stein goals? | 09:11 |
| priteau | It would be nice to have some information from tetsuro about placement integration goals | 09:12 |
| tetsuro | Sure I can add that into the project update | 09:12 |
| priteau | We don't have to stick exactly to the template so if you feel the order needs to be changed, don't hesitate to propose it. | 09:14 |
| tetsuro | I copy, captain. | 09:15 |
| priteau | In terms of speakers, I was thinking: masahito for "What is Blazar" + Rocky features, followed by me for Stein + beyond Stein, and Bertrand for cross-project work (if we use this slide), how to give feedback and how to contribute | 09:15 |
| masahito | make sense. | 09:16 |
| tetsuro | make sense. | 09:17 |
| bertys | I will propose something for slides 6 to 8, thanks | 09:18 |
| priteau | Thanks bertys! | 09:19 |
| priteau | Let's move on. | 09:19 |
| priteau | #topic stein-1 milestone | 09:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stein-1 milestone (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:19 | |
| priteau | #link https://launchpad.net/blazar/+milestone/stein-1 | 09:19 |
| priteau | Stein-1 is Oct 22 - Oct 26 | 09:20 |
| priteau | That's just two weeks away | 09:20 |
| priteau | I have been very busy on another project but will do my best to submit patches that I've already implemented for Chameleon | 09:21 |
| priteau | I would like to propose that we move the "Implement network reservation feature" blueprint to stein-2. I am working on this, and so is masahito, but a lot more work is needed. | 09:22 |
| masahito | I'm working on network reservation now. I plan to push my spec in this week. | 09:22 |
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| priteau | Thanks masahito. I am still prototyping an approach on the VLAN reservation side | 09:22 |
| masahito | priteau: We're planning to have two reservations, floating ip and VLAN. How about to separate the two? | 09:23 |
| masahito | The original BP is named BASIC network reservation. It has less meanings. | 09:24 |
| priteau | They are quite different resources, they could be implemented by separate plugins sharing some common code and Neutron client wrapper. | 09:24 |
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| masahito | right. | 09:25 |
| tetsuro | If they're going to be two different plugins, we should have different specs respectively, IMO. | 09:27 |
| masahito | yes. My spec focuses on floating ip reservation/plugin. | 09:28 |
| priteau | I agree. And based on the two specs, we can see how much overlap there is and whether it makes sense to merge into a common plugin. | 09:29 |
| priteau | tetsuro: How is it progressing on the placement side? | 09:30 |
| tetsuro | Nova is ready for using nested providers | 09:31 |
| tetsuro | since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585672/10 is gone this week | 09:32 |
| tetsuro | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584625/4 is ready for review in blazar's side. | 09:33 |
| priteau | Nice work. | 09:33 |
| priteau | OK, will review. | 09:33 |
| priteau | Thanks a lot | 09:33 |
| masahito | Nice | 09:34 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Do you know what is required for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/no-affinity-instance-reservation | 09:35 |
| tetsuro | I think I sorted out that in the last PTG etherpad | 09:36 |
| tetsuro | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-stein from Line 57 | 09:37 |
| priteau | Great | 09:37 |
| priteau | Let's keep it for stein-1, but we can move to stein-2 if more time is needed. | 09:38 |
| priteau | Any other comment regarding the stein-1 milestone? | 09:38 |
| masahito | I pushed some patches sticked to s-1 milestone. Please review this if you all have time :-) | 09:40 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 09:42 |
| priteau | Resource allocation review is still on my TODO list | 09:42 |
| priteau | Let's move to the next topic | 09:42 |
| priteau | #topic OpenStack-wide Goals | 09:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack-wide Goals (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:42 | |
| priteau | There was some discussion on the dev list about the maturity of the oslo.upgradecheck library | 09:43 |
| priteau | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135502.html | 09:43 |
| priteau | Matt Riedemann recommends to wait until interface changes are finalized before merging upgrade checkers using the library | 09:44 |
| priteau | I will wait until these changes are finalized to write and submit a patch for a Blazar noop checker | 09:46 |
| masahito | yes. | 09:46 |
| masahito | The client and library final release is s-3 milestone usually. So don't need to be hurry. | 09:47 |
| priteau | If we can have it ready early it's less to worry about in late cycle though :-) | 09:49 |
| masahito | IMO, other projects, like neutron in the above mail, plan to have noop checker. We can re-use the patch for Blazar | 09:49 |
| priteau | That's my plan | 09:49 |
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| priteau | 10 minutes left, let's move to AOB | 09:50 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:50 | |
| priteau | I reviewed the instance reservation scenario topic | 09:50 |
| priteau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1714438 | 09:50 |
| priteau | I left a -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604939/ because I don't understand why we need to delete the reservation. | 09:51 |
| priteau | masahito: could you please explain? | 09:51 |
| masahito | yup. | 09:51 |
| masahito | In the real, there is no race condition the scenario test could hit. | 09:54 |
| priteau | But under Tempest there is? | 09:55 |
| masahito | As create_server() does, any resources created in a test scenario are deleted at end of each tests, meanings in dearDown. | 09:55 |
| masahito | If we have create_lease() which adds the created resource to addCleanup, the cleanup code is not needed. | 09:57 |
| masahito | That's why I commented "to avoid unexpected race condition". | 09:58 |
| priteau | So it's for the scenarios where a lease/reservation is still active? | 09:59 |
| priteau | but test_lease_expiration and test_update_instance_reservation both run: self.assertTrue(lease['status'] == 'TERMINATED') | 10:00 |
| priteau | Isn't it enough to ensure no race condition? | 10:00 |
| priteau | We've ran out of time. We can continue discussion on Gerrit. | 10:01 |
| masahito | right. I expect there is no race condition. | 10:01 |
| priteau | Or in #openstack-blazar | 10:02 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:02 | |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 10:02:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-10-09-09.00.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-10-09-09.00.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-10-09-09.00.log.html | 10:02 |
| priteau | Thanks everyone for joining | 10:02 |
| masahito | bye | 10:02 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 16:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| * cmurphy partly in another meeting | 16:00 | |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o. | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | i appreciate you running the meeting last week cmurphy | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | no problem | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | glad to have you back lbragstad :) | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | :) | 16:01 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:01 |
| * cmurphy makes note to double check lbragstad's code for sleep deprivation errors | 16:01 | |
| lbragstad | psh... i have sleep deprivation errors in my code when I get a full 7 hours | 16:02 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:02 |
| cmurphy | lol | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | hes trained for this | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | i've prepared myself by making sure there are errors in my code that make it seem like i'm always sleep deprived | 16:03 |
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| lbragstad | which sounds like a weird method of reverse psychology | 16:03 |
| hrybacki | hes genius | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | heheh | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | well played lbragstad well played | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | explains a lot really ;) | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | lol | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: so you're saying i should start introducing sleep deprivation errors in my code now... for when kid comes next year for me? | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | ;) | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | yes... start early | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | alrighty | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #topic specification reviews | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specification reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:06 | |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: sorry, you're going to have to deal with my code being crummier than usual soon ^ you heard lbragstad tell me it was a good idea | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/keystone-specs+status:open+NOT+reviewedby:self | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | specification proposal freeze is the 26th - which i'm sure everyone is aware of | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | #link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | does anyone know of specifications that we've talked about that are _not_ currently proposed? | 16:07 |
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| lbragstad | #https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/keystone-specs+status:open all open keystone-spec reviews | 16:08 |
| * lbragstad wonders if ayoung is going to be around? | 16:08 | |
| cmurphy | might need a reminder | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | oh he's not online | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | i noticed he had a bunch of things proposed | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | some of which were discussed last week during the meeting | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | and some that were back logged specs from a long time ago | 16:10 |
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| kmalloc | the JWT spec probably need some serious eyes to make sure Simo's concerns are covered | 16:10 |
| kmalloc | otherwise it shouldn't be too hard to get lined up to land | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | i attempted to update, should be ready for eyes | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | since simo isn't able to review directly, i'd like to wait for his signoff via whatever means necessary | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | the aud bits are the only real concern | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | the rest we weren't too far away from. | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | well - that and the algorithm i think | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | but i updated that already | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | at the PTG we discussed the ES256 | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | so i am not worried as long as we default to the safe algo | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | and support pools of algos. | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | i don't recall supporting pools being the plan for the first iteration | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | by pool do we mean fernet and jwt? | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | no, as long as we don't back ourselves into a corner where we can't support it we're good | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | or is the pool specific to jwt? | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: no in JWT allowing for multiple crypto algorithms | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: ++ | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | so in the case of a compromise/failure of one, we can pivot to another with config | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | it would work like bcrypt/scrypt for password hashing | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | pivit from one jwt mechanism to another jwt mechanism you mean? | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | pivot* | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | yes, but it allows for using multiple crypto forms in the same token | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | ack | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | ok - that makes sense | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | does everyone feel pretty comfortable carrying the rest of the jwt discussion in review? | 16:17 |
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| cmurphy | +1 | 16:18 |
| gagehugo | sure | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have a specific issue or point they'd like to raise about specs currently in review? | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | ok - moving on | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | #topic oslo.messaging 9.0.0 breaks keystone | 16:20 |
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| lbragstad | in case you missed it | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135544.html | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - version 9.0.1 should fix things for keystone | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | but the more concerning bit is that we're relying on internal implementation details of oslo.messaging in keystone tests | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609031/1 | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | i have a note to investigate those tests and see if we still need them or if they need to be rewritten somehow | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | if you're interested in picking through some of those things, just let me know | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | any questions on this? | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | tl;dr we should push ourselves up a layer and stop mocking internals of a lib. | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | if we need to validate what is sent down the wire, check we sent sane stuff into oslo.messaging | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | if there is a good fixture for o.m to do what we do, that is also an option | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | dhellmann was saying they could investigate adding something like that if we actually need it as a test fixture, too | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | which is a nice option to have if we need it | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | i don't think we really need that | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | but, i would use it if it existed | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:25 |
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| kmalloc | checking we are sending correct info into oslo.messaging is all we need to do | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | which we should be able to do by mocking the public interface | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | lbragstad : I was suggesting that if you need it, we'd be happy to have you add it :-) | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | and we can probably find someone to help | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | of course | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | i plan to have an answer or plan on what to do by EOD | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | any other questions on this? | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | #topic reviews | 16:28 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone have stuck reviews they want to discuss? | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:30 |
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| lbragstad | floor is open | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | flaskification auth conversion and followup need eyes | 16:31 |
| * lbragstad makes a note to review those | 16:31 | |
| kmalloc | the users stuff will be posted today | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | down to ~50 failing tests | 16:32 |
| gagehugo | yeah I'll look at the auth stuff this afternoon | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | note: the json format token rendering is staying in keystone.common because RBACEnforcer has a dependency on the json output/dict format | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | that's okay with me for now | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | since common code relies on it, it is staying in keystone.common instead of moving to keystone.token or keystone.api | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: yeah, once we fix that dep, it should totally move to keystone.api | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | that works | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | there is one minor behavior change | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | and that is that request_json_body will pass over a utf-8 encoding issue that would previously generate a 500 in webob | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | if it made it past the json.loads() in the json-body middleware | 16:34 |
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| cmurphy | i'm mostly okay with that too i just wanted to raise it in case it was a bigger deal that i thought | 16:36 |
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| kmalloc | yep, good catch :) | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | in other news, it looks like we have all three outstanding community goals in progress | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | once users, projects, auth are ported we have ec2token(auth) and s3 | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | at that point we are done with the core of flaskification | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | the last cleanup is to merge down the middleware in keystone and drop all webob dependencies | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | it will be massive code removal at that point (yay) | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | i just want to thank everyone for putting up with massive code restructuring to make flask happen | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | thanks for driving the work :) | 16:39 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - knikolla has a review up for mutable configuration | 16:42 |
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| lbragstad | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585417/ | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585417/ | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | since the flask work is coming to a head, we can start taking a closer look at that | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | and afaik we've merged all the python3-first patches | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | but we might need to double check the criteria to make sure we've completed all of that stuff | 16:44 |
| cmurphy | we still have work to do on that one | 16:44 |
| cmurphy | we need to make sure we're running python3 functional tests everywhere | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:44 |
| * cmurphy will work on that | 16:44 | |
| lbragstad | sweet - thanks cmurphy | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | are you expecting that to be a large change? | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: no not at all | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | or is it just flipping a few bits in zuul configs? | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | just a couple of copy and paste in the zuul config | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | i have a patch up for upgrade checkers | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608785/ | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | it's pretty basic, but it lays down the plumbing for us | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | i think we're waiting on a new release of oslo.upgradecheck, which should be landing soon | 16:47 |
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| lbragstad | i think that's about all i had | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have anything they'd like to raise before we call it? | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 16:49:38 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-10-09-16.00.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-10-09-16.00.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-10-09-16.00.log.html | 16:49 |
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| cmurphy | thanks lbragstad | 16:52 |
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