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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 9 15:01:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | \o | 15:01 |
| xyang | hi | 15:01 |
| dustins | \o | 15:01 |
| tbarron | bswartz is here! | 15:01 |
| vgreen | hi | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi folks! | 15:02 |
| bswartz | Only minor technical difficulties this week | 15:02 |
| tbarron | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
| tbarron | the bswartz lab is back in service? | 15:02 |
| tbarron | hi mark! | 15:02 |
| bswartz | tbarron: not exactly -- it's jerry-rigged to run for at least a bit longer though | 15:03 |
| tbarron | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
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| tbarron | bswartz: can we run third-party CI from it? | 15:03 |
| tbarron | Any way, on to more formal announcments. | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | it ain't no beef-supreme | 15:03 |
| jun2222 | hi | 15:03 |
| tbarron | For those who live under a rock, today is the RC1 deadline. | 15:04 |
| bswartz | tbarron: I used to do that, but I didn't want to be responsible in the long run | 15:04 |
| tbarron | Our review to release manila rc1 and cut the stable/rocky branch is close to merge at this point. | 15:04 |
| tbarron | Also one for manila-ui since horizon has released and we got our fixes in. | 15:05 |
| tbarron | vkmc++ for fixing a bad bug. | 15:05 |
| tbarron | who needs a create shares button anyways? | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | vkmc: +1 | 15:05 |
| tbarron | and thanks to akihiro from the horizon team and cshort for getting some | 15:06 |
| tbarron | dependency stuff cleaned up and all past traces of mox usage out of the way. | 15:06 |
| tbarron | So main branch will open up for development again soon but our focus needs to | 15:06 |
| vkmc | :) | 15:06 |
| tbarron | be on testing and bug fixing any blockers we may discover. | 15:07 |
| * vgreen needs a create share button! | 15:07 | |
| tbarron | It's hard string freeze now. | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #createshare2020 | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | So even if we have a blocker bug and need to cut a new rc, be careful in | 15:07 |
| amotoki | I think it is more important than hard string freeze though... | 15:07 |
| tbarron | reviews of any string changes. | 15:07 |
| vgreen | #createsharematter | 15:07 |
| tbarron | amotoki :D | 15:08 |
| amotoki | it is a comment from my i18n hat. | 15:08 |
| tbarron | amotoki: you get around | 15:08 |
| ganso | #notmycreateshare | 15:08 |
| tbarron | So at this point we've cut all our releases except for manila-tempest-client | 15:09 |
| tbarron | We've never released it before and as an intermediary cycle project we have | 15:09 |
| tbarron | a couple more weeks | 15:09 |
| tbarron | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html#r-finalrc | 15:10 |
| tbarron | We'll watch for the release of tempest itself in case they do anything at | 15:10 |
| tbarron | the last minute that will require adjustments on our side. | 15:10 |
| tbarron | Any questions/comments about the release stuff? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | What's left to merge? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | Any final fixes? | 15:11 |
| tbarron | bswartz: no | 15:11 |
| tbarron | and I've already posted the rc release review | 15:11 |
| tbarron | bswartz: oh, you mean for manila-tempest-plugin? | 15:12 |
| ganso | tbarron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539996 this one was trying to get through the gate | 15:12 |
| tbarron | if that, maybe some scenario tests that are in progress but mostly I | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I was just asking if we have any work left to do before you can push the tags | 15:12 |
| tbarron | ganso: it's too late | 15:12 |
| tbarron | not a blocker | 15:12 |
| ganso | tbarron: ok np | 15:12 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ganso in last week's meeting I announced that we'd post the reviews Wednesday this week. | 15:13 |
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| tbarron | I lied, did it early this morning. | 15:13 |
| tbarron | No point in jamming things up for the release team. | 15:13 |
| tbarron | And a couple of us did lots of review work this week trying to help steward patches through before the deadline even | 15:14 |
| tbarron | though they weren't by any means release blockers. | 15:14 |
| tbarron | OK, before leaving Announcements topic, | 15:14 |
| tbarron | just a reminder to update the PTG planninng etherpad as you come up with | 15:15 |
| tbarron | great thoughts | 15:15 |
| tbarron | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ptg-planning-denver-2018 | 15:15 |
| tbarron | Any other announcments? | 15:15 |
| tbarron | #topic API wsgi service and python 3 | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API wsgi service and python 3 (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| tbarron | last week we touched on the problem that our builtin eventlet based wsgi service | 15:16 |
| tbarron | has problems with python3 | 15:16 |
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| tbarron | but the MOD_WSGI service that is our alternative | 15:17 |
| tbarron | has lousy to non-existent debug information. | 15:17 |
| tbarron | We need a solution that works with python3 but that doesn't lose the debug info. | 15:17 |
| tbarron | vkmc and gouthamr have been looking at uwsgi -- used by cinder, glance, nova in devstack | 15:18 |
| tbarron | which appears to meet these requirements | 15:18 |
| tbarron | vkmc: gouthamr: is this an accurate summary? | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i'm not entirely sure what debug info is missing with the mod_wsgi deployment | 15:18 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: well for one thing logging is done as part of apache/httpd, right? | 15:19 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: and -- not exactly to your point -- service restart requires restart of all apache | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes, but there's nothing lost in translation | 15:20 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: but also it seems to me looking at the apache logs there was missing info, you disagree? | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes, i didn't notice anything missing | 15:21 |
| tbarron | bswartz: didn't you think we were missing info in the mod_apache logs? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I wasn't concerned about logs -- it was the ability to run m-api inside a pycharm debugger | 15:21 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: if there's nothing missing then the simplest thing would be just to cutove rto mod_wsgi and be done wiht it. | 15:21 |
| tbarron | bswartz: oh | 15:21 |
| tbarron | bswartz: isn't eventlet probematic for that too? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | Not anymore | 15:22 |
| tbarron | bswartz: requires pycharm hacks | 15:22 |
| tbarron | and old version of pycharm, at least in the cknight days :D | 15:22 |
| bswartz | It's something I've done in the past, and it would be good to not lose that ability | 15:22 |
| bswartz | That being said, I won't throw a fit if we do | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I misunderstood your concern; have you tried it (or asked) with uwsgi? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Modern versions of pycharm work fine with eventlet | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ack | 15:23 |
| tbarron | and they won't work with mod_wsgi? or is it just that you have to debug the whole big httpd thing? | 15:24 |
| vkmc | I haven't tried that, which is the problem specifically? how can I reproduce that? | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | Right, mod_wsgi means the parent process is a webserver, and you can't debug like that | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | uwsgi might work fine -- I haven't looked closely at it | 15:24 |
| vkmc | we are currently deploying manila with mod_wsgi by default on devstack | 15:25 |
| tbarron | nova, glance, cinder all use uwsgi in devstack so maybe we need to find some pycharm folks from those projects and ask | 15:25 |
| tbarron | OK, this is a topic for more research and likely PTG discussion but I'm glad I asked about it again. | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I'm surprised you're not all pycharm folks | 15:26 |
| bswartz | pycharm = win | 15:26 |
| dustins | pycharm++ | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | wut bswartz !! | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I had misunderstood the nature of the concern with dropping the eventlet | 15:27 |
| * tbarron thinks bswartz (eclipse) is trolling | 15:27 | |
| * gouthamr doesn't even remember the guy now | 15:27 | |
| tbarron | where did mr open source go? | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz is probably using a mac | 15:27 |
| tbarron | OK, more checking, questions, research. Thanks to vkmc and gouthamr for the research thus far. | 15:28 |
| tbarron | #topic Bugs | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:28 | |
| bswartz | pycharm is open source -- at least the version I use | 15:29 |
| tbarron | dustins: what do you have for us today? | 15:29 |
| dustins | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1786059 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1786059 in Manila "Cannot Connect to Share Server when Creating Share with Generic Driver (DHSS=True)" [Undecided,New] | 15:29 |
| dustins | erm | 15:29 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1786059 | 15:29 |
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| ganso | etherpad link? | 15:30 |
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| dustins | ganso: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:30 |
| ganso | dustins: thx | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | there's a log formatting bug hiding the bug | 15:30 |
| tbarron | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:31 |
| tbarron | for the minutes | 15:31 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: do you see the real bug? | 15:32 |
| tbarron | One thing I notice is that he's running manila-share on its own node | 15:32 |
| tbarron | he's likely running l3gw on his controller node | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | so manually he tried "ssh manila@10.254.0.3 with password manila | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | from the same node | 15:33 |
| tbarron | I see | 15:34 |
| tbarron | so manila share on the same node with the same credentials can't ssh in. | 15:36 |
| tbarron | Well we need someone who works on the generic driver to pursue this but | 15:37 |
| tbarron | unfortunately no one is paid to do that any more. | 15:37 |
| dustins | And no one like it enough to do it for free :) | 15:37 |
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| tbarron | We see a lot of transient issues in gate doing ssh to service VMs but this is likely consistent. | 15:39 |
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| gouthamr | the gate issues we see are usually timeouts | 15:40 |
| tbarron | I don't myself have insight on this one. Anyone around here a paramiko wizard? | 15:40 |
| tbarron | The relevant difference seems maybe that manila-share is using paramiko as ssh client vs | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | nope, but there was a similar open issue on paramiko: https://github.com/paramiko/paramiko/issues/657 | 15:41 |
| ganso | I remember this was a known limitation, that the controller (more specifically neutron-node) and manila-share node need to be the same for the generic driver to work | 15:41 |
| tbarron | manualy him using some normal ssh client. | 15:41 |
| tbarron | ganso: that's what I was thinking of but why does his manual ssh from the same node work then? | 15:41 |
| tbarron | with separate nodes it's true that the L2 stitching has to be set up right to get to the L3gw, etc. | 15:42 |
| ganso | tbarron: would need to inspect his network setup more closely to understand this, there are many ways to achieve connectivity to a VM inside a node | 15:42 |
| ganso | tbarron: he could be using flat networking and connecting to the node via the bridge interface on the host | 15:43 |
| ganso | tbarron: it seems he is using linuxbridge driver, I don't know how it handles vxlan, nor the access restrictions compared to openvswitch | 15:44 |
| ganso | tbarron: it is hard to debug this unless we come up with a similar setup to debug | 15:44 |
| tbarron | ganso: agree | 15:44 |
| dustins | ganso: Would you mind commenting on the bug to see if we can get those details from the reporter? | 15:44 |
| ganso | tbarron: since he is using linuxbridge driver and we pretty much only test with openvswitch, hows the probability of us addressing this? | 15:45 |
| ganso | dustins: I'll comment there | 15:45 |
| dustins | ganso: awesome, thanks! | 15:46 |
| dustins | Ready for another? | 15:47 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1784791 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784791 in Manila "NetApp driver does not support workgroup authentication" [Undecided,New] | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | interesting | 15:47 |
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| dustins | Looks like CIFS stuff | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | manila doesn't support that security service, so this is an RFE | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | Yeah this is an RFE for the NetApp driver in particular | 15:48 |
| dustins | Yeah, looks that way | 15:48 |
| bswartz | Whether it's a bug or not depends on your perspective | 15:49 |
| bswartz | But it's not something that worked in the past | 15:49 |
| dustins | I'll leave the NetApp contingent to handle this as they see fit, then | 15:49 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+bug/1785297 | 15:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785297 in python-manilaclient "cStringIO import invalid for Py3" [Undecided,New] | 15:50 |
| dustins | I wonder if there's an equivalent library for Python 3 | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | seems like an easy/worthy fix | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | dustins: yep "import the io module and use io.StringIO or io.BytesIO for text and data respectively." | 15:52 |
| dustins | gouthamr: That is easy | 15:52 |
| dustins | I can have a look at that and have a fix in today | 15:52 |
| * dustins assigns himself | 15:53 | |
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| dustins | Speaking of python 3.7... | 15:53 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+bug/1785283 | 15:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785283 in python-manilaclient "Py3.7 unit test failures" [Undecided,New] | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | ouch man, corey's got more bionic beaver than the gate | 15:54 |
| dustins | gouthamr: Does Bionic Beaver only ship with 3.7? | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | we've ^ on the PTG agenda... but dustins, i can take this one | 15:55 |
| bswartz | Death to py2! | 15:55 |
| dustins | gouthamr: Sounds good, I'll assign you if you haven't done so already | 15:55 |
| dustins | gouthamr: Uhh, actually you can do it, I only see your old email :) | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | oh | 15:56 |
| tbarron | hey folks, looks like my network dropped | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | sure thing | 15:56 |
| tbarron | I was just writing away, you guys missed some very good stuff :) | 15:56 |
| dustins | bswartz: +1000 | 15:56 |
| dustins | tbarron: At least you didn't get banned this time | 15:56 |
| tbarron | #chair bswartz | 15:57 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bswartz tbarron | 15:57 |
| tbarron | you can end the meeting if it happens again | 15:57 |
| tbarron | where are we, bugs? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | sure | 15:57 |
| dustins | Got a few more, but I'll save them for later | 15:57 |
| dustins | Last one for today though: | 15:57 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+bug/1664370 | 15:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664370 in manila-ui "Manila exposes host/pool details to non-admin tenants" [Undecided,New] | 15:57 |
| dustins | There's a fix released on Manila, but manila-ui the status is unknown | 15:58 |
| tbarron | that's pretty bad | 15:58 |
| dustins | I imagine that it's complete, but I just wanted to verify | 15:58 |
| tbarron | reported in 2017 | 15:58 |
| dustins | And yes, that's quite bad | 15:58 |
| tbarron | oh, you're guessing it's fixed | 15:58 |
| tbarron | we need a good QE to verify :D | 15:59 |
| * dustins is roping in more Manila UI and Manila Client stuff of late | 15:59 | |
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| dustins | vgreen you wanna dive into more Horizon wonderment? | 15:59 |
| dustins | :) | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | dustins: i don't see the host/pool column | 15:59 |
| tbarron | dustins: well actually the bug log says it's fixed | 15:59 |
| tbarron | oh, in manila, sec | 16:00 |
| dustins | tbarron: Yeah, that's what makes me think that it's a bookkeeping thing | 16:00 |
| vgreen | will check it later, sure | 16:00 |
| * dustins goes to #openstack-manila | 16:00 | |
| gouthamr | oh, i see where the bug was - well, by the virtue of manila not providing that info, Host is empty when you view share details | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | dustins: so we can mark it low, and remove that field in the next release | 16:01 |
| tbarron | we're out of time, see y'all on #openstack-manila | 16:01 |
| tbarron | Thanks everyone!! | 16:01 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 9 16:01:23 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-08-09-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-08-09-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-08-09-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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