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masahito#startmeeting blazar09:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 31 09:02:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:02
masahitosorry, being late.09:02
masahitotime to blazar team meeting :-)09:02
masahito#topic RollCall09:02
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priteauo/09:02
bertyso/09:02
masahitopriteau, bertys: o/09:03
masahitoToday's agenda is09:03
masahito1.09:03
masahito1. R-3 milestone09:03
masahito2. PTG planning09:03
masahito3. AOB09:03
masahitoanything else09:03
masahito?09:03
bertysPTL election maybe?09:03
bertysFew hours left http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132587.html09:04
masahitobertys: right.09:04
* tetsuro was sorry tobe late09:04
masahitothanks.09:04
masahitoAll right. Let's start.09:05
masahito#topic R-3 milestone09:05
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masahitoThis is an announcement for the team.09:05
masahitoI putted tags 2.0.0.0b3 for the blazar repo and 2.0.0 for the blazarclient.09:06
masahitohttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/blazar/log/09:06
masahitohttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-blazarclient/log/09:06
masahitoThe next milestone is RC1 which happens in next week.09:07
masahitohttps://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html09:07
masahitoany comments?09:08
priteaumasahito: Did you see that my last merged patch to python-blazarclient was buggy, and unfortunately it made the 2.0.0 release.09:08
priteauI have uploaded a fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586631/09:08
priteauWe will need to release 2.0.109:08
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masahitoI see. I check it and will release 2.0.109:10
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priteauI am very sorry for the trouble. I was working on other patches at the same time and overlooked testing this one.09:10
masahitoI'm checking whether some CLI and API works well now. If I find another bug I try to include the fix to 2.0.1.09:11
priteauThanks!09:11
masahitopriteau: np, we eventually fix it :-)09:11
masahito#topic PTG planning09:12
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masahitoI've already see some topic proposal in the ptg etherpad page. Thanks bertys and tetsuro !09:13
masahitohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-stein09:13
priteaubertys: Are you travelling on the Monday?09:14
masahitosorry, I forgot to announce the page to openstack-dev ML. I'll do that after this meeting.09:14
bertyspriteau: yes, I may be available on Monday evening, e.g. for dinner09:15
masahitobertys: Will you back to home on Wed. or Thu.?09:17
bertysmasahito: I am flying back on Fri.09:18
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masahitoOf course, if we have another topics we can talk in another room on Wednesday or Thursday.09:19
masahitobertys: got it.09:19
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masahitoany comments?09:19
priteauI will soon confirm whether or not I am attending the PTG09:20
tetsuroI'm there from Mon.-Fri.09:20
masahitopriteau: Good to hear. I hope you'll be there :-)09:20
masahitoI09:20
masahitoI'll be there Mon. to Thu. or Fri., too.09:21
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masahito#topic PTL election09:22
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masahitoThe Stein cycle PTL nomination ends in few hours.09:22
masahitohttps://governance.openstack.org/election/09:23
masahitoI'm thinking the T cycle or the S cycle is one of good time to change the PTL.09:24
priteauYou've done a lot of great work as PTL masahito :-)09:25
masahitoOf course, we're a small team. It's hard to change the PTL in every cycle.09:26
masahitopriteau: my pleasure.09:26
masahitoIf you have a passion to do the position don't forget to submit your nomination :-)09:28
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masahitoany comment?09:30
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masahito#topic AOB09:31
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masahitoDoes someone have something to share or discuss?09:31
priteauI do.09:32
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priteauI have finished my patch series to provide soft-delete capabilities.09:32
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priteauThis is extracted (and cleaned up and improved) from our Chameleon fork that we've been running in production for three years.09:32
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priteauI don't think it can be considered for Rocky, but if reviewed positively it could be merged in early Stein cycle.09:33
priteauhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/585807/09:33
priteauI would like to request feedback on this feature. I didn't implement soft delete for compute hosts and extra capabilities as that would require deep changes to the model to make each row unique even when deleted, as described in the commit message.09:34
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priteauThe patch linked above depends on four others which include small fixes.09:34
masahitopriteau: Great! Thank you for the nice patches.09:35
priteauIn addition to the discussion about soft-delete for some models, things still remaining:09:35
priteau- a CLI tool for archiving rows, like Nova and Glance have09:35
priteau(archiving or pruning)09:35
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priteau- release note and docs09:36
masahitoI agree the change should be in early S release. And we'll be able to discuss the soft-delete support for compute host in the PTG.09:36
priteauSounds good. If I cannot join physically I will participate remotely.09:37
masahitoNice.09:38
masahitoI'm also thinking about the soft-delete feature because it's one of required feature for production deployments.09:39
masahitoFor audit, troubleshooting, and etc.09:39
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masahitoSpeaking of soft-delete, the allocation API with terminated query parameter required the deleted data, but the blazar doesn't keep the data now.09:41
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/585698/09:41
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priteauIt should keep them as long as the user doesn't delete the lease.09:42
priteauBut yes, once deleted you can't find allocations anymore.09:42
* tetsuro is asking to google what "soft-delete" is, and getting to understand a little bit09:43
masahitoIn current implementation, Blazar deletes the allocation data once a lease is end (meaning terminated status).09:44
masahitotetsuro: soft-delete means don't remove real DB records from its table. Just adding a DLETED flag for the record.09:45
tetsuroCool explanation. You're a better teacher than google. Thanks.09:45
priteaumasahito: You're right, I see the allocations are destroyed during on_end().09:46
priteauI have worked too much with our forked code ;-)09:46
masahitohaha :-)09:47
priteauSince the PTG is still 1.5 months away, I would appreciate if we could start review and early discussion via Gerrit.09:47
masahitoAnyway, the soft-delete is an important feature.09:47
masahitoright.09:47
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masahitoThe points we should discuss in the PTG are 1. whether we should support soft-delete for compute host tables and 2. what tools are required for cloud admins.09:49
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priteau+109:50
masahitoanything else?09:50
bertysThis is just fyi. I may be able to attend the Summit in Berlin if [1] Blazar project update session is confirmed [2] You need me as co-speaker09:51
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masahitobertys: Got it.09:52
masahitoI09:52
masahitoI've not received the announcement for the update session yet. I try to replay and share it once I've got any information.09:53
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bertysmasahito: thanks09:54
masahitolast 5 mins. anything else?09:54
masahitoAll right. Thanks all!09:56
priteauThanks everyone.09:56
tetsuroThanks, masa and all.09:56
priteauBye!09:56
masahitoSee you in next week. bye09:56
masahito#endmeeting09:56
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 31 16:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:00
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting16:00
lbragstadagenda ^16:00
lbragstadping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he, wxy, sonuk16:00
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wxy|o/16:01
lamto/16:01
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hrybackiin another meeting today so will review the minutes after y'all16:02
kmalloco/16:02
lbragstadwe don't have a lot on the agenda today16:02
lbragstadso likely going to be a quick meeting unless people have things for open discussion16:02
lbragstad#topic announcements16:03
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lbragstad#info we cut rocky-3 last week16:03
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lbragstadso - that means we're effectively in RC period16:03
lbragstadand we're in string freeze16:03
lbragstadjust things to be aware of while reviewing and working through bugs16:03
lbragstad#topic reviews16:03
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lbragstadi think there are still flask reviews that need eyes16:04
lbragstadand same with the token provider API refactor16:04
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lbragstaddoes anyone have anything else they want eyes on?16:04
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gagehugohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/580780/ if anyone has time16:05
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lbragstadgagehugo: sounds good - i think colleen had some comments on the early revision of that16:06
lbragstadwere we able to determine if it was actually a bug?16:06
kmallocflask stuff is well on the way, but auth has been a beast16:06
kmallocjust because os-federation16:06
* kmalloc has to fix a patch then go back and finish porting auth16:07
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lbragstadkmalloc: the os-revoke patch i had that you rebased appears to be failing tests16:07
lbragstadbut that's later in the chain16:07
gagehugolbragstad: I think I put it in the bug report, but we were seeing logins to horizon with random uuids in the notifications, imo those should be the user id as the initiator16:08
gagehugoinitiator id*16:08
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kmalloclbragstad: that is becasue of the previous one16:09
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kmalloclbragstad: or two patches before, the fix will solve that as well.16:09
lbragstadgagehugo: ack16:09
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lbragstadkmalloc: ok - sounds good16:09
gagehugobut it happens for any identity.authentication event afaik16:10
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lbragstadi'm in the middle fixing some of my development environments, but i should be able to get around to reviewing it today16:10
gagehugowxy| was super helpful with the test case btw, it was kinda confusing at first16:11
lbragstadawesome16:11
lbragstad#topic open discussion16:12
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lbragstadthat's about all i had... just a few reviews really16:12
lbragstaddoes anyone have anything they'd like to bring up?16:12
kmalloci hate code that calls across controllers.16:12
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kmalloce.g. federation controller -> auth controller16:12
lbragstadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1779205 has an interesting comment on it (#68)16:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1779205 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) rocky "[OSSA-2018-002] GET /v3/OS-FEDERATION/projects leaks project information (CVE-2018-14432)" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)16:12
kmallocplease don't do that.16:12
lbragstadwell - we already did :) to fix ^16:13
kmalloclbragstad: the comment is exactly why i recommended removing the "endpoint being enabled" part of the message16:13
kmalloclbragstad: no, we didn't there, i mean we do things like federation controller calls auth.authenticate_for_token16:13
lbragstadoh16:14
kmalloccontrollers should not call another API like that16:14
kmallocbecause you get double enforcement issues16:14
kmalloca controller's logic should render the whole response.16:14
lbragstadi suppose the messes with the routing16:14
lbragstader dispatching with flask16:14
kmallocif you need to share code, share it don't call another controller16:14
kmallocyeah i've been unwinding os-federation, it's a beast.16:14
kmalloci think we do this elsewhere too.16:15
kmalloclbragstad: anyway the comment on #1779205 is consistent with the confusion of what enabling the endpoint means16:15
kmalloclbragstad: we should have just eliminated that part of the impact statement, 99% of deployments don't muck with that stuff.16:16
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lbragstadcan't you set the policy to "@" to blacklist it?16:16
kmallocyou can.16:16
kmallocbut almost no one does that kind of stuff.16:16
kmallocnot for federation where they dind't deploy say shib or federated auth16:16
kmallocmaybe we should have said: With default policy.json for entry get_projects_for_user16:17
kmallocerm list_projects_for_user*16:17
lbragstadoh - sure16:17
kmallocthe code / fixes did the right thing16:17
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lbragstadand it was thoroughly tested16:18
kmallocthe comment is regarding the impact statement.16:18
kmallocand pre-patch testing afaict16:18
kmallocabhi<number> was confirming what kristi confirmed early on, non-federated tokens got complete lists16:18
kmalloc:)16:18
kmallocbut confused because the impact statement was not well worded for that sentence.16:19
kmallocbasically.. we're all good nothing to see here :)16:19
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lbragstadack16:20
lbragstadanything else we want to discuss?16:20
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* kmalloc wants to discuss how the meeting can end so he can go make coffee.16:21
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lbragstad++ we can end early... my home lab is completely hosed right now and i'm trying to fix it =/16:21
kmalloclbragstad: my home lab is ... torn apart, will be fixed later this week.16:22
lbragstadwanna fix mine too?16:22
lbragstad;)16:22
kmalloc(like, it's missing computers right now)16:22
kmalloc... only if i can "borrow" it ... i'll send a moving truck16:22
kmalloci swear you'll get it back.16:22
kmallocsomeday16:22
lbragstadsaid no one ever16:22
lbragstadalright - well thanks for coming everyone16:23
lbragstadi appreciate the time16:23
lbragstadreminder that we'll have office hours in about 40 minutes16:23
lbragstadif anyone wants to work on things16:23
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lbragstad#endmeeting16:23
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