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efried#startmeeting nova_scheduler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 23 14:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:00
cdento\14:00
mriedemo/14:00
bauzashello folks14:00
tetsuroo/14:00
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bauzas(back from sick days)14:00
takashino/14:00
gibio/14:01
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efried#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler#Agenda_for_next_meeting14:01
efried#topic last meeting14:01
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alex_xuo/14:01
efried#link last minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-07-16-13.59.html14:01
efriedAny old business?14:01
jaypipeso/ (kinda)14:02
efried#topic specs and review14:02
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efried#link latest pupdate: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132387.html14:03
efriedComments, questions, concerns, or other feedback on the pupdate?14:03
efried#link reshaper series: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/reshape-provider-tree+status:open14:04
* mriedem hasn't read it yet14:04
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efriedcdent and gibi co-discovered a bug this morning:14:04
efried#link IndexError when clearing a provider's inventories: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178313014:04
efried...on the bottom patch, which is already gateward.14:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1783130 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement reshaper doesn't clear all inventories for a resource provider" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eric Fried (efried)14:04
efriedBut since we're not consuming the thing yet, it's not worth yanking it out of the gate. I'm going to work a fix after this meeting.14:04
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mriedemthe reshaper api change is approved?14:05
efriedNo14:06
efriedjust the db side14:06
mriedemso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582383/14:06
efriedyes14:06
efriedThe API change is the second patch14:06
efried#link reshaper handler & microversion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576927/14:06
mriedemand the regression is *just* for the reshaper flow?14:06
bauzasI'll try to review those14:06
efriedmriedem: yes, it's not a regression, just a bug in the new code.14:06
mriedemok14:06
efriedThe API patch (above) is still running afoul of https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178234014:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1782340 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "allocation schema does not set additionalProperties False in all the right places" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent)14:07
efriedWhich we need to discuss here.14:07
efriedopenstack: cdent has proposed a14:07
efried#link "just fix it" fix for bug 1782340: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583907/14:07
efriedthat was weird14:07
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efriedanyway, we need to decide whether it's acceptable to break the rules and just fix it, or insist on a microversion.14:08
mriedemhow far along are the nova compute side bits to consume reshaper at this point?14:08
efriedmriedem: Will get to that in after we discuss --^14:08
bauzasmriedem: good question14:08
efrieds/in//14:08
bauzasmriedem: that's why I need to review the series14:08
bauzasto know how to consume it14:09
bauzasbut not for this cycle14:09
efriedI expressed my opinion in the review. By the rules, we need a microversion. But we should break the rules and not do one.14:09
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cdentefried: that's the majority opinion, so if majority rules, we're good to go14:10
mriedemi hedged on the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1782340/comments/814:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1782340 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "allocation schema does not set additionalProperties False in all the right places" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent)14:10
mriedemi won't fight against just fixing this w/o a microversion if that helps14:10
efriedGood enough for me. So let's get a second core to +A that sucker and get the series moving.14:10
efriedcdent: wait, is that the bug that's blocking the reshaper API patch?14:11
efriedjaypipes: Can you see well enough to push that patch? It's just 16LOC and very simple.14:12
cdentefried: yes, I didn't base it into the tree because stuff was too in-flight. I figured I'd wait until jay's thing merges14:12
cdentor just let it merge all on its lonesome14:12
efriedwfm. I'm going to need to take over the pile to fix the IndexError bug, so I'll do whatever rebase shuffling is necessary at that time.14:13
efriedgibi: Maybe you want to save jaypipes's eyeballs and push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583907/ for us?14:13
mriedemwe can find the cores after the meeting to deal with it, let's let jaypipes heal a bit14:13
jaypipesefried: done14:14
efriedThanks jaypipes14:14
efriedmoving onward.14:14
gibiefried: ack14:14
cdentefried: I'll push up my pending code on /reshaper after we're done here, and then be hands off for the rest of my day14:14
efriedgibi: cancel, jaypipes got it.14:14
gibi:)14:14
efriedcdent: what do you have pending?14:14
* jaypipes goes to make a homemade eyepatch. yarr.14:14
cdentefried: the test that found the bug and...14:14
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cdentfixes as suggested by gibi14:15
cdent(which is moving a thing inside the nested exception)14:15
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cdentand your suggestion about an improved debug message14:15
efriedOkay, the client side:14:16
efried#link client side cumulative patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576236/14:16
cdentjaypipes: I require that you go out on a boat. Even only briefly14:16
efriedTo answer mriedem, ^ has all the code side written, but no tests yet.14:16
efriedThat patch is already big, so as I started writing tests, I started breaking it up into smaller pieces for ease of review.14:16
efriedThose start here:14:17
efried#link bottom of the new-and-improved reshaper client side series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584598/14:17
efriedIt's still pretty early days, but that's my main focus from now until it's done.14:17
mriedemok, can we agree to hold off on merging the reshaper api change until we have a good pass on the client side changes?14:18
efriedThat cumulative patch will be either abandoned or drastically trimmed to comprise some part of that series, but if you want to look at it now to get an overview of how things are gonna work, it's there.14:18
efriedmriedem: That's a fair idea. I'll -2...14:18
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efried...done.14:19
cdentmriedem: that was the original idea on the back end too, but we ... forgot basically14:19
efriedThe back end is not a big deal.14:19
efriedwe can keep fixing that14:19
efriedWe just don't want to burn a microversion if we can help it.14:20
* cdent knows14:20
mriedemcdent: as long as the backend was a new thing and not a big refactor/merge of existing functionality, then that's fine14:20
mriedemthat's why i was worried about a regression14:20
efriedmriedem: Yup, good call.  It is (a totally new thing).14:21
efriedAnything else for reviews?14:21
efriedAny non-reshaper specs/reviews anyone wants to bring up?14:21
efriedoh, here, lemme make the minutes prettier:14:22
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efried#agreed to "just fix" https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1782340 via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583907/ without a microversion.14:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1782340 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "allocation schema does not set additionalProperties False in all the right places" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent)14:22
efried#agreed to put a procedural hold on the reshaper API change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576927/ until the client side matures, so we don't burn a microversion.14:23
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efried#agreed no need to pull the db side reshaper patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582383/ out of the gate for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1783130 since it's all new code, no regressions in existing.14:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1783130 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement reshaper doesn't clear all inventories for a resource provider" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eric Fried (efried)14:24
efriedMoving on.14:24
efried#topic bugs14:24
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efried#link placement bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement&orderby=-id14:24
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efriedAnyone have anything specific to discuss on bugs?14:25
efried#topic opens14:26
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efriedPlanning/Doing support in nova/report client for:14:26
efried#link consumer generation handling (gibi): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583667/14:26
efriedThis is getting active work/review.14:26
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efriednested and shared providers for initial allocations14:27
efriednested and shared providers when modifying migration (and other?) allocations14:27
efriedThese haven't been started afaik14:27
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efriedwhatever else is not being remembered right now <== anyone have anything specific we can add to the list?14:27
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efriednext up14:27
efriedos-resource-classes alternative:14:28
efried#link library spike: https://github.com/cdent/os-resource-classes14:28
efried#link placement integration spike: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584084/14:28
efriedcdent and I discussed some of this over the weekend via reviews on both of those.14:28
cdentwhat I'm after with those is "shall I carry on or is that not a good way to go?"14:28
efriedWhat's really needed at this point is a discussion including both cdent and jaypipes to figure out which way (or some other option not yet proposed) we want to go on os-resource-classes, so we can move forward.14:29
mriedemthat's probably ptg fodder at this point yeah?14:30
mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein14:30
efried#link jaypipes' os-resource-classes proposal: https://github.com/jaypipes/os-resource-classes14:30
mriedemthrow it on the big board14:30
cdentomg, that's like _years_ away14:30
cdent:D14:30
efriedI read "pig fodder". I need *my* eyes checked.14:30
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efriedOkay, I added it to the etherpad. But I kinda hope we can discuss it before then.  As cdent notes, the ptg is a ways off, and it would be nice to get this done soonish so we can focus on other, harder extraction topics in Denver.14:32
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mriedemsure,14:32
mriedemmy point is,14:32
mriedemwe need to focus this week and avoid any noise on stuff that's not going to happen in rocky14:33
efriedpoint taken14:33
cdentspeaking of "harder extraction topics". Whatever they are, can people add those to etherpad too (line 36-ish)14:33
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cdent(probably something slightly less than 36)14:33
efriedOkay, any other topics for open discussion?14:35
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efried314:35
efried214:35
mriedemi need review14:35
mriedemon sync_aggregates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575912/14:35
mriedemto close out that bp14:36
efried#link Add nova-manage placement sync_aggregates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575912/14:36
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mriedemat this point i think with efried's changes to how aggregate generation and conflicts are handled in report client i could probably re-use that code in the report client for this change,14:36
mriedembut i'm not sure i'll have time to re-write this in time for FF14:36
mriedemso i'm proposing we defer the refactor, get this in for FF and then i can refactor later14:36
bauzasmriedem: again, I'm slowly returing full steam14:37
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bauzasmriedem: ping me for your sync_aggs serie14:37
mriedembauzas: ok, consider yourself pinged then14:37
efriedI'll take a look at it mriedem. If I can see a path to refactor, would you be amenable to me doing it?14:37
* bauzas opening a tab then14:37
mriedemefried: then you probably can't +2 it14:37
mriedemand with it taking a week to merge code...14:37
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mriedemefried: your +2 is more valuable at this point14:38
efriedokay, it's on my radar anyway.14:38
efriedto review14:38
mriedemi have a TODO in there for handling generatoin conflicts,14:38
mriedemso there is a marker to eventually clean that up14:38
jaypipesI've got a series of patches that splits out the resource_provider.py object file for placement into multiple files. been waiting to push it until the reshape stuff is cleared.14:39
efried++ love that idea.14:39
efriedthat file is >4KLOC14:39
bauzasjaypipes: given FF is next week, probably a good idea to wait next week ;)14:39
efriedyeah, that's a thing that can totally be done after FF.14:39
bauzasor people would scream about merge conflicts :p14:39
mriedembauzas: it's this week14:40
mriedemthursday14:40
bauzasoh shit14:40
mriedembauzas: and it's taking about a week to merge code right now14:41
bauzasthat's what happens when you have 2 weeks off14:41
efriedyeesh, wir haben sehr viel zu tun14:41
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efriedokay, so unless there's anything else, let's go make code happen14:42
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efried#endmeeting14:42
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cdentthanks efried14:42
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-07-23-14.00.html14:42
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-07-23-14.00.txt14:42
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