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| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 10 09:01:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:01 |
| masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| priteau | o/ | 09:02 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | o/ | 09:02 |
| masahito | Today's agenda is | 09:02 |
| masahito | 1. Non-client libraries release | 09:02 |
| masahito | 2. AOB | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. Review meeting | 09:02 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:02 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:02 |
| masahito | priteau, hiro-kobayashi, tetsuro: hello | 09:03 |
| masahito | #topic Non-client libraries release | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Non-client libraries release (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| masahito | FYI, 20th July is final non-client libraries release | 09:05 |
| priteau | We don't have any, do we? | 09:06 |
| masahito | I'll cut stable/rocky branch if needed and put 2.0.0 tag to blazar-nova, dashboard, tempest | 09:06 |
| priteau | masahito: are those considered libraries? | 09:07 |
| masahito | oops, you're right, priteau. | 09:07 |
| priteau | I thought we would tag them at the same time as blazar | 09:07 |
| priteau | End of August | 09:07 |
| priteau | Non-client libraries are things like oslo | 09:07 |
| masahito | According to the schedule docs it's about oslo and others. https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html#final-release-for-non-client-libraries | 09:08 |
| masahito | I was confused in pip libraries. | 09:09 |
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| priteau | The next release step for us should be rocky-3 | 09:10 |
| hiro-kobayashi | blazar-nova is listed as a library project: https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/index.html#library-projects | 09:11 |
| masahito | rocky-3 and client release | 09:11 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: good catch! | 09:11 |
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| priteau | Do we have any pending patches on blazar-nova? | 09:11 |
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| masahito | I see the one patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555355/ | 09:12 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: thanks. | 09:12 |
| masahito | Looks like the gate log is already removed. Let's wait the gate job result. | 09:14 |
| masahito | any comments? | 09:15 |
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| masahito | #topic AOB | 09:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:16 | |
| masahito | less topic today. | 09:16 |
| priteau | I noticed we haven't discussed the Berlin summit | 09:17 |
| masahito | Before starting review meeting, does someone have some thing to discuss or share? | 09:17 |
| priteau | The CFP is July 17 | 09:17 |
| masahito | priteau: nice catch. | 09:17 |
| priteau | That's next Tuesday, so if we want to have Blazar presentations that's the last week to work on it | 09:17 |
| priteau | Is anyone planning to submit a talk? | 09:18 |
| masahito | Do you all already have idea for blazar OFFICIAL presentation? | 09:18 |
| tetsuro | I'm going to submit a talk about the usage of placement from blazar, as a GENERAL presentation. | 09:20 |
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| priteau | Is there a track for project updates? | 09:20 |
| masahito | I plan to submit one talk with OPNFV Doctor project. | 09:20 |
| priteau | We can cover new features in Rocky | 09:20 |
| hiro-kobayashi | tetsuro: great | 09:20 |
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| masahito | Usually, TC members ask having project update session after the CFP to PTL. | 09:21 |
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| masahito | I didn't receive any notice, but I hope there is the update session. | 09:22 |
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| priteau | The summit is shorter than others, only 3 days | 09:22 |
| priteau | Maybe some sessions are not happening | 09:22 |
| priteau | It would be good to ask before the CFP closes | 09:23 |
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| masahito | right, I'll ask TC member later. | 09:24 |
| priteau | Thanks! | 09:24 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:26 |
| masahito | If nothing, we can move to review meeting. | 09:28 |
| tetsuro | I saw a new unit test fails sometimes in local and in gate. http://logs.openstack.org/65/578065/6/check/openstack-tox-py27/555b9af/testr_results.htm | 09:28 |
| hiro-kobayashi | i'm oks | 09:28 |
| hiro-kobayashi | i'm okay | 09:28 |
| tetsuro | I'll submit shortly for this bug report and fix. | 09:28 |
| tetsuro | Just to report. | 09:29 |
| tetsuro | Nothing else from me. | 09:29 |
| masahito | I listed links to series of patches in this meeting agenda page. | 09:29 |
| masahito | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Blazar | 09:29 |
| hiro-kobayashi | tetsuro: that link looks invalid | 09:29 |
| masahito | tetsuro: thanks for digging into the bug :-) | 09:29 |
| tetsuro | hiro: oops, thanks. http://logs.openstack.org/65/578065/6/check/openstack-tox-py27/555b9af/testr_results.html.gz | 09:30 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | tetsuro: thanks | 09:31 |
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| masahito | priteau: IIRC, you're not available after 10am UTC right? | 09:33 |
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| priteau | I can stay longer | 09:33 |
| masahito | got it. So let's start the review from high priority and completed patch. | 09:35 |
| masahito | And continuing to next week. | 09:35 |
| masahito | Let's start from cleaning time | 09:36 |
| masahito | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575021/ | 09:36 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think the discussion point is default value for the cleaning_time option | 09:37 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I set 5 min but priteau and Stig set it's a big change | 09:37 |
| hiro-kobayashi | s/set/said/ | 09:37 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think it's reasonable and I'm okay to set zero as a default value. | 09:38 |
| masahito | Now that I'm thinking about it, no default change is easy to upgrade and less confusing. | 09:39 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Agree. | 09:39 |
| priteau | Stig also makes a good point that it can make reservations unaligned with time boundaries | 09:39 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Right. It's important for operators. | 09:40 |
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| priteau | For example, if a user reserves a node for a full day (00:00 to 00:00 the next day), with cleaning time the next user would only be able to reserve from 00:05 | 09:40 |
| masahito | This example looks fine for me. | 09:41 |
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| masahito | The Blazar's reservation is similar to hotel booking mechanism. The cleaning time should be placed out of each reservation. | 09:42 |
| tetsuro | Yeah, I don't see any problems on that example either. | 09:43 |
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| priteau | It's just that if users want to keep reservations aligned, they would need to know the cleaning time | 09:44 |
| priteau | Anyway, I think hiro-kobayashi was agreeing to set default to zero? | 09:46 |
| masahito | ah, it's a case that same one user want to try create two reservation continuously, isn't it? | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: Do you mean the cleaning time value should be exposed to users? | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: yes, i agree with zero. | 09:46 |
| priteau | Same user or two or more users working together | 09:46 |
| priteau | Alice and Bob plan together so that Alice books one node on Monday, Bob the same node on Tuesday | 09:47 |
| masahito | I now understand the situation you and Stig mentioned. | 09:47 |
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| priteau | But Bob is surprised when his reservation starting at 00:00 on Tuesday is rejected | 09:47 |
| priteau | When we have resource availability API, that will be easier to handle | 09:47 |
| priteau | Blazar will be able to say, reserve from 00:05 | 09:48 |
| hiro-kobayashi | make sense | 09:48 |
| priteau | But at the moment it is trial and error | 09:48 |
| tetsuro | I see. | 09:48 |
| masahito | From my experience, this type of "user effected config" should be announced by cloud operator. | 09:48 |
| priteau | That's right, though if we make default 5 minutes, some operators won't think about announcing it | 09:49 |
| masahito | List of AZ names, what reservation plugin is supported in the cloud, and etc | 09:49 |
| masahito | right. | 09:49 |
| masahito | So setting the default to 0 makes sense to me. | 09:50 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: I think the cleaning time will effectively be exposed to users by the resource availability API | 09:50 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | cool | 09:51 |
| priteau | So we are all in agreement to update the patch to set default to 0? | 09:51 |
| masahito | yes, of course. | 09:52 |
| tetsuro | defaulted to zero makes sense. | 09:52 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | yes. I'll update and push the patch. | 09:52 |
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| priteau | Thanks! | 09:52 |
| masahito | if nothing more, let's move on to Placement API support | 09:53 |
| masahito | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576343/ | 09:53 |
| masahito | patch #1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578073/ | 09:53 |
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| masahito | patch #2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578065/ | 09:53 |
| masahito | patch #3: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578637/ | 09:53 |
| masahito | patch #4: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578017/ | 09:53 |
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| priteau | I am sorry, I haven't had the chance to look at the spec or any of these patches yet | 09:54 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I don't plan to add anything to the spec anymore. So, if you think it's okay, let's merge it. | 09:54 |
| masahito | For Rocky cycle, I'm happy the spec is merged at least. If the patch series are merged, it's great. | 09:55 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: np :-) | 09:55 |
| priteau | I will have some minor comments on the spec | 09:55 |
| masahito | The spec has concrete description, so I hope it's easy to merge. | 09:57 |
| tetsuro | I haven't seen the latest PS of the spec, sorry, but the PS before the latest was all okay to me. | 09:57 |
| hiro-kobayashi | thanks. Anyway, tetsuro's placement related patches will not be affected by spec changes. So, let's review them. | 09:59 |
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| masahito | Running out weekly meeting time. | 09:59 |
| masahito | Let's move to #openstack-blazar | 10:00 |
| hiro-kobayashi | ok | 10:00 |
| masahito | thanks all | 10:00 |
| tetsuro | thanks! | 10:00 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 10:00:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-07-10-09.01.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-07-10-09.01.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-07-10-09.01.log.html | 10:00 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 10 16:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he, wxy, sonuk | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| * kmalloc goes back to sleep. | 16:00 | |
| * hrybacki hugs kmalloc | 16:00 | |
| * knikolla makes coffee for kmalloc | 16:01 | |
| kmalloc | knikolla: i'm on my second cup already | 16:01 |
| kmalloc | :P | 16:01 |
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| wxy|_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| knikolla | likewise | 16:01 |
| knikolla | our cloud is down, it was a long night | 16:01 |
| hrybacki | such a supportive group | 16:01 |
| * hrybacki hugs knikolla too | 16:02 | |
| lbragstad | we'll give it one more minute | 16:02 |
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| chason | o/ | 16:03 |
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| lbragstad | #topic announcements: release status | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: release status (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:03 | |
| lbragstad | #info this week is feature freeze | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | as noted in the release schedule | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | there are a couple efforts that seems like they still need some help | 16:04 |
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| lbragstad | it sounds like mfa receipts is going to get pushed until Stein? | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | adriant was talking about that a little bit last night | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | s/last night/yesterday/ | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | correct | 16:06 |
| ayoung | Museum of fine arts? | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | mostly to ensure we're on the same page as the token model refactor | 16:06 |
| * ayoung ducks | 16:06 | |
| kmalloc | ayoung: that is master of fine arts... tyvm. | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | ;) | 16:06 |
| * ayoung only got BofS and a commission | 16:07 | |
| lbragstad | the capability list work is still waiting another revision i think https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/whitelist-extension-for-app-creds+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/whitelist-extension-for-app-creds+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:07 |
| ayoung | seems like MFA, unscoped tokens, and Federation tokens are all doing sorta the same thing | 16:07 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: and a lot will be easier to work with under the token model refactor | 16:07 |
| kmalloc | so, mfa pushing makes a lot of sense. | 16:08 |
| * lbragstad feels bad that the token provider refactor contributed to that | 16:08 | |
| ayoung | lbragstad, token provider is a beast | 16:08 |
| kmalloc | as much as landing the receipts soon would be good. landing it first thing stien or even put in all the scaffolding just no emitting of data in rocky is fine too | 16:08 |
| ayoung | it needed to be taken out behind the woodshed and given the Ole Yeller treatment before anyone else got infected | 16:09 |
| kmalloc | we might want to work with adriant to split apart the api affecting changes and land the non-api specific ones once the token model lands. | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | but i'd hate for the mfa implementation to carry a bunch of the debt we've been trying to clean up for a long time | 16:09 |
| kmalloc | so stien is just wiring up receipt emitting | 16:09 |
| kmalloc | and have that land in S1 | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | that sounds good | 16:09 |
| kmalloc | (not to be confused with S0i3 sleep mode) | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | does anyone else have anything they want to raise regarding the release or timeline? | 16:10 |
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| lbragstad | we still need to work on the community goal for this release | 16:10 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, do you have a doc describing what your endstate is for the refactor? | 16:10 |
| * hrybacki has been out for the past week | 16:10 | |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: i tried to be out for the last week. | 16:10 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: am I good to jump back into policy audit? | 16:10 |
| kmalloc | i failed | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: a doc, no... an interface, yes | 16:10 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: gotta leave the cellphone tower range ;) | 16:10 |
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| kmalloc | hrybacki: hah. i wish i could have. | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: yes jump back in, but flask stuff hasn't all landed and conversion has not started fyi | 16:11 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, I have a feeling that you are being driven by the same deamons that got me a few years back on that. Lets chat after this to see if we can get a vision doc together so others can understand | 16:11 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: seems like I should still wait in that case | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: the interface is fairly well defined atm. | 16:11 |
| ayoung | is that the end state? A a better interface? | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: consistent unified interface that no longer assumes the token providers implement it | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | a better interface and cleaning up the token provider API to have sane boundaries | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | token provider populates the data and "mints [generates an ID]" | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | thus, making it a lot easier for people to implement new token providers | 16:13 |
| ayoung | token provider and token model are related but separate, and the token issue process is a third thing | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | erm, mints only* | 16:13 |
| ayoung | we should lay that out | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | the token model populates the data behind the scenes | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | i can walk through it after the meeting if you want | 16:13 |
| ayoung | yeah, that would be grroovy | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: good plan. | 16:13 |
| ayoung | have to make it tomorrow, tho | 16:14 |
| ayoung | afternoon booked solid | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad and ayoung to work through the token provider refactor | 16:14 |
| ayoung | ++ | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | wfm | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | anything else for the release schedule? | 16:14 |
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| hrybacki | I'm not so sure we'll land the policy changes on my side before freeze | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: i can help with the audit today, i have a couple cycles | 16:15 |
| ayoung | what about that request to roll back the default roles? | 16:15 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: ack that works | 16:15 |
| ayoung | did we ever addres that? | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | we helped the projects that needs to adapt to it | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | needed* | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | so the revert shouldn't be needed (the last i heard about it) | 16:16 |
| hrybacki | I'd need to re-read the revert patch comments. Did someone file a bug? | 16:16 |
| ayoung | cool | 16:16 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/commit/?id=50fd6933e8ab5ccf4ef232837fbe582d90c5c913 fixed the gate for sahara | 16:16 |
| ayoung | hrybacki, make sure you add me to the policy changes revies | 16:16 |
| hrybacki | ack | 16:17 |
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| lbragstad | ok - moving on | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcement: team updates | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement: team updates (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:17 | |
| lbragstad | every release we go through and assess core involvement and discuss new cores | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | after a long discussion, we'd like to officially welcome wxy|_ to the core team :) | 16:18 |
| ayoung | Yay! | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | yay! | 16:18 |
| hrybacki | woo! | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | great work wxy|_ | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | and welcome. | 16:18 |
| wxy|_ | thanks, all | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | \o/ thanks wxy|_ | 16:18 |
| gagehugo | \o/ | 16:18 |
| knikolla | \o/ great work wxy|_ | 16:19 |
| wxy|_ | :) | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | wxy|_: has been doing a fantastic job helping out in a time zone we have *very* little coverage in, and that's been a huge help | 16:19 |
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| lbragstad | i'll get the ACL squared away after the meeting today and send a note to the mailing list | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | nice work wxy|_! | 16:20 |
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| wxy|_ | I still need to learn more from you guys. Really thanks for all your help. | 16:20 |
| ayoung | wxy|_, we are all learning from you, too | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:21 |
| gagehugo | agreed | 16:21 |
| ayoung | “I have learned much from my teachers. I have learned more from my colleagues than my teachers. But I have learned more from my students than from all of them.” | 16:21 |
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| lbragstad | if there isn't anything else for team updates, we can move on | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | #topic keystone to keystone tests | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "keystone to keystone tests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:22 | |
| lbragstad | knikolla: | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:22 |
| wxy|_ | ayoung: a new English quote I get | 16:22 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:22 |
| knikolla | i have been promising k2k tests for the last 2 years | 16:23 |
| ayoung | Heh | 16:23 |
| knikolla | better late than never | 16:23 |
| knikolla | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:federation-testing+OR+topic:bug/1780377 | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | sweet :) | 16:23 |
| knikolla | there's a patch to the plugin that sets up k2k | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | woot | 16:23 |
| cmurphy | yay \o/ | 16:23 |
| knikolla | there's a patch to the tempest plugin | 16:23 |
| knikolla | and there's a fix to keystone-manage not generating correct metadata under python3, discovered courtesy of the tests | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | well then, that is good to have testing for! | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | i love it when that happens | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | score1 for tests! | 16:24 |
| * kmalloc makes hashmark in the air. | 16:24 | |
| lbragstad | knikolla: so this all looks good to go then, huh? | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | just need some eyes on the reviews? | 16:25 |
| knikolla | yeah, reviews | 16:25 |
| ayoung | Question....can we create a "keystone-reviewers" group that people can sign up for if they want to be included on reviews, and then people can add keystone-reviewers to a review instead of selecting people? | 16:25 |
| ayoung | I tend to add keystone-core | 16:25 |
| ayoung | but that misses non-core that want to contribute | 16:25 |
| ayoung | and knikolla could use some more people on his reviews, I see | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: really, trello and/or gerrit project-page is what should be used for that, i don't think an additional gerrit group is going to help. | 16:26 |
| ayoung | maybe treat keystone-reviewers as an intern project | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: i'll review these today | 16:26 |
| knikolla | cool, not to distract from reviewing the huge features we want to push in before freeze | 16:27 |
| knikolla | i just really wanted to burn through my backlog while in a good mood | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | i usually only add people to reviews upon request... just because i know there are some people that use the email notification system to do reviews and adding people directly generates a lot of noise | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: anything else on the k2k testing stuff? | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | we should send a note to the mailing list for this, too... | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | i know some of the deployment projects will probably be interested in digging into it | 16:29 |
| knikolla | when u have time review. the tempest-plugin i haven't spent too much time making look nice | 16:29 |
| knikolla | but was focused on minimal code and making it work. and everything does work together. | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 16:30 |
| knikolla | that's all i have. | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | thanks knikolla this is awesome | 16:30 |
| ayoung | ++ | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:30 | |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:30 |
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| kmalloc | so, since we have a few cores here. flask work is proposed up to the point of being ready to move APIs over. | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | i am hesitant to move apis because this stack is ~13 deep | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | and i am already treading carefully to avoid rebase hell | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | for the most part it is +2 all the way through *except* the keystone_flask +keystone_flask testing patch | 16:31 |
| knikolla | ++ mutable config also depends on flask for the before_request hook | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578190/ | 16:32 |
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| lbragstad | getting the flask stuff in is going to help hrybacki with the policy stuff, too | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | once some of these patches land i can start moving APIs over to flask. | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | it's been a lot of work, but we are well on our way. | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | I started going through it a bit but it's pretty dense :/ | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | yeah, i tried to break it up as much as I could. | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | unfortunately some of the things really are 500 LOC + 500 lines of tests | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | I also don't know flask so understanding it is going to involve some research | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | for the most part, the goal is to provide a clear move from webob to flask with minimal test/no test changes | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | which is what a lot of this scaffolding is intended to do. | 16:34 |
| ayoung | so...if we push that patch trhough, the rest will land? | 16:34 |
| knikolla | i will review, though i'm not sure how much time i can spare today | 16:34 |
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| kmalloc | it's dense because it's covering a lot of ground. i'm around to answer questions. | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: well, some other +2s on earlier patches are needed | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: that patch is the last massive one that builds the structure for moving apis over | 16:35 |
| ayoung | anything surprising in it? | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: but the other patches mostly already have a +2/previously had +2s and lost them in rebases. | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: shouldn't be, but i mean, you need to look at the code to see if you're surprised | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | i try to not make it "SURPRISE" when writing code. | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | keystone should be boring. | 16:36 |
| ayoung | I'm going to propose that we be aggresive in pushing these through, and then aggresive in opening bugs | 16:36 |
| ayoung | this is a hill we need to get over, and its easier to get up hills with momentum | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | if i need to make large changes to the test suite to move an API to flask, i screwed up and you'll see a fix to the flask side. | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | the ultimate goal is fix keystone then fix/retrofit tests to be better. | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | since we can lean on the cool: "with self.test_client() as c:" mechanism | 16:37 |
| ayoung | this is stand alone, right?> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574736/ | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | are there features we're trying to land this week that this will conflict with? | 16:37 |
| ayoung | and a prereq for a lot of others, if I read gerrit correcly | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: i have been surgical, this should conflict with almost nothing | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | the token provider refactor can wait until after feature freeze imo | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | and i wont move any APIs that are touched by in-flight things. | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | or moving apis can wait till post ff if they are in conflict | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | we have a large surface area, i am sure i can work without breaking the ff-sensitive stuff :) | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: and i think we only have 1 minor conflict between token refactor and flask as it sits. | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | and it should be the controller/policy bit in middleware i htink | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | think* | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: and yes that is the bottom of the stack | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: yeah, it's the enforcer bit that leans on keystonetokenmodel | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | right - ok | 16:40 |
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| kmalloc | i think it's one added line/2 added lines to fix. | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | very minor. | 16:40 |
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| kmalloc | ayoung: that patch you referenced is the first actual move to flask, it moves our discovery stuff over. and that is very special because it can't be flask-restful-ized (due to the way it works) | 16:41 |
| lbragstad | anything else we want to go through for open discussion? | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | anyway ... | 16:41 |
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| ayoung | Yeah | 16:41 |
| ayoung | so...edge | 16:41 |
| * kmalloc steps out and hands over the mic. | 16:41 | |
| ayoung | I want to put in a talk about Keystone and Edge, and wonder if anyone wants to join | 16:42 |
| ayoung | Tentative title: | 16:42 |
| ayoung | Pushing Keystone over the Edge | 16:42 |
| knikolla | lol | 16:42 |
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| ayoung | hrybacki, and I are already on a policy talk together | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | i don't understand enough about edge to be useful in a talk like that :) | 16:42 |
| ayoung | this, I think, would be better if it is a multi-company speaker list | 16:42 |
| knikolla | i'd be interested if i know more about what u're trying to do | 16:42 |
| hrybacki | just push lbragstad :P | 16:42 |
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| ayoung | anyone interested, I'll talk with you off line. | 16:43 |
| ayoung | but, the core thing is something jamielennox proposed a while back | 16:43 |
| ayoung | which is putting a mini service catalog in unscoped tokens | 16:43 |
| ayoung | and federtation tokens, too | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: love it | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: i'd offer to talk... but... uh | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: multi-company thing doesn't fly w/ just me and you | 16:44 |
| ayoung | the general idea is that there is some centralized stuff, and you get that with an unscoped token, and then you go to the region | 16:44 |
| ayoung | and we can use K2K to sync between regions | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | k2k, and auto-refresh app-cred | 16:44 |
| ayoung | still a little hazy, want to hash it out before the summit, but would ratjher work with other cores on it | 16:44 |
| ayoung | knikolla, this might be right up your alley | 16:44 |
| knikolla | ++ i'm interested | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | yeah it plays right into OCX stuff | 16:45 |
| ayoung | cool. Deadline is approaching, lets talk tonight or tomorrow | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | just without mix=match | 16:45 |
| hrybacki | CFP closes next Tuesday IIRC | 16:45 |
| ayoung | we'll run the general apporach past the rest of the core team prior to summit so it is unsurprising | 16:45 |
| knikolla | sounds good | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: you are welcome to add me as well. | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | i'm happy to join | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | if you want. but i think you and knikolla would make a solid presenting team | 16:46 |
| ayoung | excellent | 16:46 |
| * kmalloc will consult on the talk in either case. | 16:46 | |
| ayoung | thats all I got | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | cool - anything else? | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | otherwise we can get some time back before office hours | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | not keystone related, but i found a puppy tooth on the floor yesterday. yay puppy teething! | 16:47 |
| * kmalloc hands ice to said pupper to chew on. | 16:47 | |
| cmurphy | ^.^ | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming everyone | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 16:48:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-07-10-16.00.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-07-10-16.00.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-07-10-16.00.log.html | 16:48 |
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