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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 15:00:55 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:01 |
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| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | manila courtesy ping: gouthamr zhongjun xyang markstur toabctl bswartz ganso tpsilva vkmc vgreen erlon | 15:01 |
| zhongjun__ | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:01 |
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| vgreen | o/ | 15:02 |
| tbarron | Hi all! | 15:02 |
| erlon_ | hey | 15:02 |
| tbarron | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| tbarron | Yesterday gouthamr fixed the project "badges" so that manila's | 15:02 |
| tbarron | achievements and status are properly reflected. | 15:02 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577020/ | 15:03 |
| tbarron | Thanks gouthamr !!! | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | Just a reminder that we are working with an eye towards | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Was that the change you intended to link? | 15:03 |
| tbarron | M3 on July 26. | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Doesn't look manila specific | 15:03 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it fixed stuff for us though | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yeah, everyone had lesser badges than they really did | 15:04 |
| tbarron | our badges were getting squashed out | 15:04 |
| bswartz | interesting | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | Thx gouthamr | 15:04 |
| tbarron | w.r.t. M3 on July 26 we need to review and merge | 15:05 |
| tbarron | Inspur driver | 15:05 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550454/ | 15:05 |
| tbarron | metadta for access rules | 15:05 |
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| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570708/ | 15:05 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571366/ | 15:05 |
| tbarron | priority for access rules | 15:05 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572283/ | 15:06 |
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| tbarron | json query validation | 15:06 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563429/ | 15:06 |
| tbarron | Just reminding .... | 15:06 |
| bswartz | Will there be a review etherpad this cycle? | 15:07 |
| tbarron | Any other announcements? | 15:07 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I will put one together since we don't have a storyboard for same yet :) | 15:07 |
| bswartz | To help coordinate reviews (mostly to avoid too many people reviewing the same thing while nobody reviews other things) | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Will storyboard eventually support that feature? | 15:08 |
| tbarron | #action tbarron will create a review etherpad for m3 | 15:08 |
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| tbarron | storyboard is low level tooling on which such a feature could be built | 15:09 |
| tbarron | it allows one to do trello-like stuff | 15:09 |
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| * bswartz knows nothing of trello... | 15:09 | |
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| tbarron | and this would I think be a natural application. | 15:09 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: post-its in columns with annotations | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: trello's like rally's kanban board, a little more flexible | 15:09 |
| ganso | gouthamr: much more simple as well | 15:10 |
| tbarron | doesn't necessarily imply kanban methodology though | 15:10 |
| ganso | s/more simple/simpler | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | true.. | 15:10 |
| tbarron | like we can still all work on 15 things at once :D | 15:10 |
| tbarron | for better or worse | 15:11 |
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| tbarron | Any other announcements?? | 15:11 |
| * bswartz can work on 16 things at once, as long as 15 of them are not important | 15:11 | |
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| gouthamr | :) atleast we get to see all the 15 things in a place (channeling ameade) | 15:11 |
| tbarron | :D | 15:11 |
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| tbarron | #topic Beijing bug smash | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Beijing bug smash (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:12 | |
| tbarron | It was this week. | 15:12 |
| tbarron | Thanks to those participating or helping do reviews. | 15:12 |
| tbarron | And special thanks to zhongjun__ for coordinating manila aspects. | 15:12 |
| zhongjun__ | Thanks all | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | ++ thanks zhongjun__ | 15:13 |
| tbarron | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenSource-Hackathon-Rocky-Beijing-Bugs-List | 15:13 |
| zhongjun__ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenSource-Hackathon-8-beijing | 15:13 |
| tbarron | Some bugs are fixed, some are in review, some are still in backlog. | 15:13 |
| tbarron | But good progress, thanks again! | 15:13 |
| zhongjun__ | In line 162, We don't have separate statistics on manila projects, we only count bug number of storage. | 15:14 |
| tbarron | zhongjun__: understood | 15:14 |
| tbarron | I was late gettiing bugs into the list for this bug smash but overall I think good progress was made. | 15:15 |
| tbarron | Anything else on this topic? | 15:15 |
| tbarron | #topic manila meeting time (bswartz) | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "manila meeting time (bswartz) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | o_O | 15:16 |
| bswartz | Oh yes, I remember this | 15:16 |
| tbarron | Ben brought this one up after the meeting last week. | 15:16 |
| tbarron | Ben? | 15:16 |
| bswartz | Want me to cover it? | 15:16 |
| tbarron | You were pretty articulate at the time, let's assume you will be again :D | 15:17 |
| tbarron | so yes please | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I realized during the meeting last week that we chose the time for this weekly meeting many years ago, when we had a number of core team members in Europe and the east coast of the US, and none in the west coast or pacific region | 15:18 |
| bswartz | I think that over time the center of gravity of the team has moved, and it's worth considering a different meeting time | 15:18 |
| bswartz | In particular, something more friendly to the pacific region -- so probably 4-5 hours later than currently scheduled | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | This would cause pain for anyone joining from the EMEA region | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | But other than toabctl, I don't know who that includes | 15:20 |
| bswartz | Thoughts? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | zhongjun__: would you prefer this meeting to be 4-5 hours later? | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | I'm sure that gouthamr/markstur would | 15:21 |
| tbarron | toabctl: is on paternity leave which implies that he will soon be awake at odd hours anyways :D | 15:21 |
| zhongjun__ | 4-5 hours later, It will be at 4:00 | 15:21 |
| zhongjun__ | 4:00 morning | 15:22 |
| bswartz | erm | 15:22 |
| bswartz | Really? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | That's not good | 15:22 |
| markstur | this time is fine for me | 15:22 |
| zhongjun__ | Now It's 23:22 in my zone | 15:22 |
| bswartz | How much later would it need to be for it to be morning time for you zhongjun__? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | So it would need to be 9 hours later? | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | That would create problems for those of us on the east coast | 15:23 |
| vgreen | beijing is 12hr ahead of EST | 15:23 |
| zhongjun__ | It's fine, 10 hours later would be more better | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Okay I hadn't done the math last week | 15:24 |
| zhongjun__ | haha | 15:24 |
| bswartz | That would mean that in order to make the situation better in China, those of us on the east coast would have to join in the evening after dinner | 15:24 |
| bswartz | tbarron: what do you think? | 15:24 |
| tbarron | I'm willing to do it but fear that we'll lose attendance from the current group. | 15:25 |
| zhongjun__ | \ | 15:25 |
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| amito | I'm joining from EMEA. 4-5 hours later will be around midnight. | 15:26 |
| markstur | to be fair you could at least try alternating times or something. Unfortunately inconsistent meeting times can also hurt attendance | 15:26 |
| ganso | how about 2 meetings or async meetings? I've heard there are other projects doing that | 15:26 |
| bswartz | ganso: we've avoided that in the past -- it means you never have a quorum for important discussions | 15:26 |
| bswartz | And it's twice as much work for the meeting chair | 15:26 |
| amito | (I don't have reception here so I'll probably disappear in a minute or two...) | 15:26 |
| tbarron | amito: noted | 15:27 |
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| tbarron | some meetings (like TC) have gone away altogether in favor of async IRC and "office hours" | 15:27 |
| bswartz | So based on the realities of the timezones, I don't know if we can do better than the current time | 15:28 |
| tbarron | but I don't know that that would really work for us either. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | I don't have a specific proposal, but I wanted to shine light on the fact that the team's center of gravity has moved | 15:28 |
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| tbarron | I'm not hearing a consensus for a change but bswartz has certainly raised an important issue. | 15:28 |
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| tbarron | We also don't know who *would* be attending if we had the meeting at another time. | 15:29 |
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| tbarron | Let's everyone think about this and don't be afraid to make suggestions. | 15:29 |
| ganso | it seems we can't agree to a better meeting time | 15:29 |
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| tbarron | ganso: at least not today | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I has been hoping that moving the meeting a few hours would help china, but I didn't realize how far we would have to move it to make it work | 15:30 |
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| zhongjun__ | I think so, We almost have a half-day time difference | 15:30 |
| bswartz | If we moved it 9 or 10 hours, then it would cause problems for east coast people, including brazil | 15:30 |
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| ganso | bswartz: yup | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | Personally I'm not sure how often I could attend a 9pm or 10pm meeting | 15:32 |
| tbarron | well let's table this topic for now; if you get an idea pertaining to $subject then let's talk about it again | 15:32 |
| tbarron | #topic Open Discussion | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:32 | |
| tbarron | Do we have other things to talk about today? | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | We could discuss the world cup... | 15:33 |
| tbarron | :) | 15:33 |
| ganso | lol | 15:33 |
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| tbarron | OK, let's go do work or watch TV or whatever, see you all next week! | 15:34 |
| tbarron | Thanks for working on manila! | 15:34 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
| bswartz | ty | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 15:34:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-21-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-21-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-21-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
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