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edleafe#startmeeting nova_scheuler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 30 14:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheuler'14:00
efriedō/14:00
tssuryao/14:00
edleafeGood UGT morning! Who's here?14:00
melwitto/14:00
Sundaro/14:00
mriedemo/14:01
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* efried draws pentagram, summons jaypipes14:02
edleafe#topic Specs & Reviews14:03
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edleafe#link Latest Placement Update http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129941.html14:03
edleafeposting a single link is so much easier than prepping a full list :)14:03
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SundarSince https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554529/ is merged, can we say that nested resource providers support is now officially in?14:04
efriedSundar: No14:04
efriedSundar: That's some of the internal framework, but we still don't have API support for nrp in alloc cands.14:05
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edleafeWell, it *is* in. It just can't be used14:05
efriedTo my knowledge, that patch (which will come with a microversion) is not yet proposed.14:05
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efriedOn that subject, I would like to request that mriedem and melwitt ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559466/ as we're one patch away from needing that to proceed with ^14:06
mriedemi was waiting for updates, will (re)review this morning14:06
efriedthx14:06
melwittyep, will do14:06
edleafeI also wanted to ask for some reviews for the consumer generation stuff14:07
edleafeThere are two ways posted for handling it:14:07
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edleafe#link Using Consumer Objects https://review.openstack.org/56140714:07
SundarIs there a comprehensive list of things that are pending for full nRP support?14:07
edleafe#link Not using objects https://review.openstack.org/56464114:07
edleafeThe object-based approach got very messy very quickly, which is why I went back to my original approach14:08
efriedSundar: Here's the current bottom of the series: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556450/14:08
edleafeUnless someone has strong feelings about the object approach, I'm going to proceed with the other14:08
efriededleafe: I'll take a look at that this morning.14:09
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edleafeefried: thx14:09
efriedthough I expect jaypipes to be the deciding vote.14:09
edleafecdent shared my distaste for Consumer objects14:09
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edleafeSpeaking of the absent cdent, his patch for the optional separate db for placement has been sitting ready for merging for some time14:12
edleafe#link Optional placement db https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362766/14:12
jaypipesedleafe: I'll look at the new series today.14:12
edleafeIt would be nice to get that in14:12
edleafejaypipes: kewl14:12
jaypipesedleafe: you know you've got unit test failures on it, though, right?14:13
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edleafejaypipes: you mean the one labeled 'WIP'? Yes14:13
efriedWhen a problem comes along, you must WIP it....14:14
edleafeOK, anything else for specs/reviews?14:15
edleafe#topic Bugs14:16
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edleafeOne new bug this week14:16
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edleafeAlthough it's more of a feature request14:16
edleafe#link Make association_refresh configurable https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/176730914:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1767309 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Placement - Make association_refresh configurable" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya)14:17
Sundarefried: "we still don't have API support for nrp in alloc cands." Is there a plan to propose a changeset for that?14:17
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efriededleafe: I think we talked about this with tssurya last week.14:17
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tssuryayes14:17
efriedWe're eventually going to get rid of the association_refresh timer entirely.14:18
tssuryaefried: yea, but would be nice to have some solution in queens14:18
efriedtssurya: You were going to try extending that interval in your env and see if it helped your load issues.  Did it?14:18
tssuryaeven if we fix this in master14:18
efriedhm, I see.14:18
tssuryaefried: yea! big time improvement14:18
bauzasholy shit, forgot that meeting14:19
efriedOkay; is it a done thing to introduce a conf option in a backport?14:19
bauzasand now I need to leave :/14:19
efriedAnd immediately deprecate/remove it in master?14:19
melwittI was going to say, I don't think adding a config option just to queens is going to be desirable14:20
tssuryaefried: maybe we introduce the config in master first since the deprecation is not yet merged14:20
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melwittand I didn't think we normally backport config options in general anyway14:20
bauzaswe don't indeed14:20
tssuryamelwitt: okay, yea I understand14:20
mriedemum14:20
efriedtssurya: I'm trying to think whether we could just rip it out in queens.  But we can't, because not all of the generation stuff was there.  We would have to backport several supporting patches.14:20
mriedembackporting a config option which by default is the same thing that is hard-coded seems fine to me14:21
bauzashttps://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#review-guidelines14:21
efried(rip out the association refresh)14:21
mriedemthis isn't a new feature14:21
bauzasif that's defaulted, sure we can14:21
melwittokay, mriedem is the expert14:21
mriedemyes it would default to 30014:21
mriedemso no change in behavior14:21
mriedembut lets ops tweak it14:21
bauzasbut that needs to not change anything14:21
tssuryamriedem: cool!14:21
efriedI'm fine with that.  Should be a pretty trivial change.  More paperwork than code.14:22
mriedemif we didn't backport config options, kashyap's pcid thing wouldn't be in ocata right now...14:22
tssuryaefried, mriedem: awesome thanks so will introduce this in master and then backport to Queens14:22
melwittthat was an exceptional case. originally we (redhat) thought we weren't going to be allowed to backport it14:22
mriedemtssurya: sounds good, ping me when the patch is up14:22
efriedtssurya: don't forget reno :)14:22
edleafeGlad that's settled. Any other bugs to discuss?14:23
tssuryamriedem, efried : ack14:24
edleafe#topic Open Discussion14:24
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edleafeAnything else to discuss? Or should we get back to work?14:25
edleafeI'll take that as a sign that everyone's already back at work14:25
edleafe#endmeeting14:25
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