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masahitoHi blazar folks, time to blazar meeting09:03
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 09:03:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:04
masahito#topic RollCall09:04
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hiro-kobayashio/09:04
priteauo/09:04
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masahitotoday's agenda is09:04
bertyso/09:04
masahito1. Vancouver Forum09:04
masahito2. DB upgrade problem09:04
masahito3. next meeting09:05
masahito4. AOB09:05
masahitoanything else?09:05
masahitohiro-kobayashi, priteau, bertys: hello09:05
priteauHi09:05
bertysHi09:05
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bertysmasahito: Ashiq is in our office right now, says hello too to Blazar team09:06
hiro-kobayashiHello Ashiq!09:07
masahitobertys: nice. Hello Ashiq09:07
masahito#topic Vancouver Forum09:07
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masahitoVancouver Forum proposal will open soon. If we have topics to discuss in the Forum let't submit the agenda.09:08
masahitohttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum09:08
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masahitoDoes anyone has idea to submit a proposal? If nothing, it's okay.09:10
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hiro-kobayashiHow about 'Blazar feedback session'?09:10
masahitoWe had some discussion in the Dublin PTG. so would be less topics.09:11
hiro-kobayashiIt is for gathering devs and users of Blazar. I'm not sure if we will have users there.09:11
masahitohiro-kobayashi: we also have a project update session for Blazar.09:12
priteauCan it be used to have cross project discussions, e.g. with Neutron folks?09:13
hiro-kobayashimasahito: yes. Now that I think the project update session is enough for getting feedbacks.09:13
masahitopriteau: for network reservation design?09:14
priteauyes09:14
masahitoGathering feedbacks about what/how they want to reserve looks nice to forum topic.09:15
priteauthat's just an example, can be with other projects09:15
masahitookay, I'll submit one forum topic, like "Demands for Reservation" or like similar.09:17
masahitoOnce I've drafted the proposal, I'll share it to you.09:18
hiro-kobayashiThanks!09:18
priteauThanks09:18
masahito#topic DB upgrade problem09:19
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masahitoI noticed the db upgrade problem when I test the patch for the extra capability support in instance reservation.09:19
masahitoThe bug report is https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/175707609:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757076 in Blazar "Unable to upgrade DB schema" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Masahito Muroi (muroi-masahito)09:20
masahitoThe summary of the bug is the difference between OR mapper definitions and real DB schema causes an upgrade error when the script try to set lease status.09:21
hiro-kobayashiIs the problem cannot be solved by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536649/ ?09:22
masahitoI'm working on fixing the problem by modifying the patch not to use db_api method.09:22
masahitohiro-kobayashi: No, the patch causes the problem.09:23
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priteauCan 75a74e4539cb_update_lease_status.py be changed to not depend on models.py? We could do manual sql queries with sqlalchemy09:23
masahitoI think priteau would upgrade your cloud, so please be careful to upgrade.09:23
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masahitopriteau: yes, we need to change the script to use directly sql query.09:24
hiro-kobayashiOh, I see09:25
priteauThanks for catching this error masahito09:25
masahitoThe problem doesn't happen in Queens release. Don't need to be hurry, but needed to fix in early R cycle.09:25
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masahitoThe patch hit the problem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527342/, and the log is http://logs.openstack.org/42/527342/5/check/blazar-devstack-dsvm/1aa3658/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2018-03-19_09_35_41_66109:26
masahitoOkay, then let's move on to next :-)09:27
masahito#topic next meeting09:27
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masahitohiro-kobayashi and I was out of office next week because of ONS summit.09:27
masahitoIf there is no special topic, I'd like to skip next weekly meeting.09:28
priteauI hope it is not in a place with snow!09:28
masahitoI hope so :-)09:28
bertysIt should be a place to promote our activities );09:28
priteauI am fine with skipping the next meeting09:28
bertysmasahito: I am now creating etherpad page for Promise/Blazar breakout session scheduled on Tuesday at 10:15 PDT09:29
priteaumasahito: I don't think there will be snow in LA09:30
masahitobertys: thanks. Could you update the wiki page?  It looks like I don't have a right permission.09:30
bertysmasahito: sure.09:31
masahitopriteau: haha. Or Tokyo could get snow instead.09:31
masahitobertys: thanks.09:32
masahitookay, let's skip next meeting. I'll also announce it in openstack-dev later.09:32
masahito#topic AOB09:33
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masahitoDoes anyone have topics/idea to share/discuss?09:33
hiro-kobayashiI have one update.09:34
hiro-kobayashiI pushed a patch for the healing-time blueprint09:34
hiro-kobayashihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/529999/09:35
hiro-kobayashiThis patch includes docs about this blueprint (doc/source/user/resource-monitoring.rst). It will help understanding the implementation.09:35
hiro-kobayashiThis is a bit big patch but please review it.09:36
masahitoNice work, hiro-kobayashi!  I'll review it later.09:37
hiro-kobayashithanks! I think I have no other tasks on this blueprint except writing a release note.09:37
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priteauThanks hiro-kobayashi09:39
masahitohiro-kobayashi: Speaking of Vancouver, how was the result of CFP?09:40
hiro-kobayashiOh, sorry I forgot to share.09:40
masahitoIIRC, you submitted two proposals.09:40
hiro-kobayashiUnfortunately, my proposal was not accepted.09:40
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hiro-kobayashiBoth of the 2 proposals.09:40
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bertysmasahito: just FYI. I have updated Wiki page: https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Breakout+at+LFN+Developer+Forum09:41
bertysmasahito: feel free to edit Promise/Blazar etherpad https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/ons_devforum_promise_blazar09:41
masahitohiro-kobayashi: Oh I see. I hope we could get another talk in next summit.09:42
masahitobertys: thank you.09:42
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masahitoanother topic? if nothing, we can finish today's meeting early.09:44
hiro-kobayashiNothing from my side09:44
masahitookay, thanks all.09:45
bertysmasahito, hiro-kobayashi: Safe travels and see u next week in LA...09:45
bertysthanks all09:45
hiro-kobayashibertys: See you!09:45
masahitobertys: thanks.09:45
masahitobye all.09:45
masahito#endmeeting09:46
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 20 09:46:01 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:46
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hiro-kobayashithanks all! bye09:46
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 16:00:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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hrybackio/16:00
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting16:00
jgrHello16:00
lbragstadagenda ^16:00
cmurphyo/16:00
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lbragstadpretty light agenda - so we can give folks a few minutes16:01
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knikollao/16:03
lbragstad#topic office hours thoughts16:03
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lbragstadhrybacki: o/16:03
hrybackio/16:03
hrybackiSo, I went ahead and updated the office hours etherpad16:03
hrybacki#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-office-hours16:03
hrybackibased on our conversations at PTG16:03
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hrybackiIf folks could glance at that I would appreciate it -- any feedback is awesome.16:04
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hrybackiAdditionally, the list at the bottom is a holdover -- there were many names I recognized but did not want to assume are still active. So, if you have a strong feeling that person X is out for good, go ahead and delete it16:05
hrybackiAlso add yourself and your irc handles if you'd like to be pinged :)16:05
jgrI like the "no account required" bit about Bluejeans, so I disagree with "16:05
jgrDo we want to port this to a Google Doc?"16:05
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hrybackijgr: good point!16:05
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jgrWhile I may have a Google account for situations where somebody forces me to use it, I certainly wouldn't admit to having it :-)16:06
cmurphy++ let's not use closed services when we have open ones like etherpad available16:06
hrybackiThe other big question is -- when do we want to decide on a focus for a give Office Hours? Right before (during this meeting) or at the end of the Office Hours (giving folks a week to prepare if needed)16:06
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hrybackicmurphy++16:06
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lbragstadfor the sake of freshness - i wouldn't be opposed to using the tail end of the meeting to set priorities for office hours (pending time constraints)16:07
gagehugolbragstad++16:08
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cmurphysounds fine to me16:08
hrybacki+1 I spent 20 minutes giving myself pros and cons for each side. In the end I figured that having an idea at the end of office hours (to allow for preparation) is a good idea IF we allow us to change that as needed during the weekly meeting (if something better arise).16:08
hrybackiToo complicated?16:08
lbragstadthat works for me16:09
lbragstadthat might work well for large pieces of work that span multiple sessions, too16:09
* lbragstad shrug16:09
hrybackitrue16:09
hrybackiOkay, let's just pick a focus at the end of the weekly meeting for now. Can adjust later if that turns out to be sub-optimal16:09
knikolla++16:10
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kmallocbluejeans is the best option imo16:10
hrybackias unreliable as it is, it's the most reliable option I've found to date16:10
kmallocif we need video16:10
kmallocand it is most cross-platform16:10
lbragstad++16:10
hrybackiI think having an open video session is nice.16:11
kmallocAND it supports recording if someone with a real account hosts (e.g. hrybacki or myself)16:11
hrybackiFolks know where it is and can lurk if they want16:11
hrybackikmalloc: ack. lbragstad has my moderator code for recording/starting sessions in my absence16:11
hrybackibut it's good to note that you have one as well16:11
hrybackithat's all I had lbragstad -- pending any questions from the team16:12
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lbragstaddo we want to come up with a plan for today's office hours now?16:12
lbragstadbefore having open discussion?16:13
hrybackiSure16:13
lbragstad#topic office hours planning16:13
hrybackiWhat needs the most attention right now lbragstad ?16:13
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lbragstadwe have several patches in flight that close bugs16:13
lbragstadwe also have a bunch of specs to review16:14
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lbragstad#link https://goo.gl/obdy7E16:14
hrybackiAck, so focused review session?16:14
lbragstad#link https://goo.gl/vJyKpC16:15
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wxy|o/16:16
lbragstadthis is the review dashboard that i use if anyone wants to copy/modify it http://paste.openstack.org/show/706266/16:17
gagehugooh nice16:18
lbragstadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1756140 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1756190 have fixes ready to go16:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756140 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Project Tags Documentation Wrong - Create Tag" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Gage Hugo (gagehugo)16:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756190 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Project tags is too restrictive" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Nicolas Helgeson (nhelgeson)16:18
lbragstadyou can pass a dashboard ini file to https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator and it will generate a link for you16:19
kmallochrh16:20
kmallocheh*16:20
lbragstadthen you can save it into your gerrit settings (which appears under your My tab16:20
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lbragstadi also said i was going to review adriant's spec yesterday16:22
kmallocyeah, it is much improved16:22
kmallocthere is some work still to be done16:23
kmallocand clarifications but he's made a nice change16:23
lbragstadso i'll do that after i review the fixes from nick and gagehugo16:23
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lbragstadand i'll look at jgr's spec, it's been a week since i've looked at that16:23
jgrThanks :-)16:24
adriantlbragstad, kmalloc: I'm about if anyone does have questions/discussion about the that spec16:24
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lbragstadjust a reminder - specification freeze is in a month16:24
kmallocadriant: i know there are a few more comments i have. but i had to wait for the recent patch to add them16:25
kmallocit's looking pretty close imo16:25
kmallocand a few things are just "this isn't needed" type details, so minor fixes16:25
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adriantkmalloc: comment on the spec when you get the chance and I'll fix as needed :)16:26
kmallocadriant: i'm commenting now, hold on updates until lbragstad and/or cmurphy comments too16:27
adriantI tried to expand as much as possible on the last patch16:27
* adriant nods16:27
kmallocthis was a great update. big move forward16:27
lbragstadis there anything else folks want to tackle for office hours?16:27
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hrybackilbragstad: want to take a crack at updating the RoR spec with me?16:28
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lbragstadyes16:28
lbragstadhrybacki: johnsom had some comments on it16:29
hrybackiawesome16:29
* cmurphy will look at all the specs again16:29
lbragstadthey highlighted that we still don't do a real good job communicating what "scope" means16:29
hrybackicmurphy is about to become one with the Matrix16:29
lbragstadespecially from a service developer perspective16:29
johnsomo/16:29
lbragstadjohnsom: o/16:30
johnsomSorry for the newbie perspective.  I'm just trying to map what we currently allow to the new naming scheme.16:30
lbragstadit's been brought up a few times, which means we probably need to update and clarify thigns16:30
lbragstadthings*16:30
lbragstadi attempted to capture some of the problem areas in https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/175715116:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757151 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Token and scope documentation needs an update" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)16:31
lbragstadhrybacki: if we fix up the documentation to better describe that stuff to other developers, we can likely include it in the RoR specification16:31
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hrybackilbragstad: ack. Let's do a review of the spec, make list of homework points, and research those before making more patchsets16:32
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lbragstadworks for me, i can address problem areas this week and we should be able to work the openstack spec and the doc improvements in parallel16:33
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hrybacki+116:33
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johnsomFeel free to ping me if I can help review, etc.16:34
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lbragstad++ will do, i think a fresh perspective will help16:34
lbragstadanything else we wanna tackle for office hours, or do we think this is a pretty full plate?16:34
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hrybackiIt sounds like we have a bunch of bug related reviews, some specs, and then the default roles spec/strategy/docs stuff16:37
lbragstadsounds about right16:38
lbragstad#topic open discussion16:38
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lbragstadanything else folks want to talk about before we adjourn16:39
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hrybackilbragstad: would you midn opening the video call? I need to find food still16:39
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lbragstadyeah - i can do that16:39
hrybackithanks lbragstad16:40
lbragstadno problem16:40
wxy|_lbragstad: I saw the oslo.limit spec has been merged. What's the next step?16:40
lbragstadwxy|_: yep - i think the next official step is getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550496/ merged16:41
lbragstadbecause https://github.com/openstack/oslo.limit technically exists16:41
lbragstadthen we'll need to finalize the groups and ACLs for it16:41
lbragstad(which I think I've already done, but just need to double check stuff)16:41
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lbragstadthen we should be good to start defining the minimum things we need and working on the interface16:42
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wxy|_Got it. Good to know that.16:43
lbragstadyeah - it's moving along, we should be able to start committing to it soon16:43
lbragstadonce that governance patch merges, we should reach out to cinder, nova, and cyborg16:44
lbragstadi remember those projects being interested in this16:44
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lbragstadanything else?16:47
wxy|_BTW, the limit APIs refactor related things: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549766/ and https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/175418416:47
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lbragstadah - that's another spec i need to review16:47
lbragstadwxy|_: do we expose an API endpoint for enforcement model discovery?16:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1754184 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Unified limits API shouldn't return a list of all limits" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to wangxiyuan (wangxiyuan)16:47
wxy|_No, It's still under discussion I think.16:48
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lbragstadok16:48
kmallocadriant: commented on your spec.16:49
adriantkmalloc: will take a gander, just replying to another spec in the meantime16:50
lbragstadalright - sounds like we can wrap up16:51
lbragstadi'll get things rolling in about 10 minutes for office hours16:51
lbragstadthanks for coming16:51
lbragstad#endmeeting16:51
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hogepodge#startmeeting refstack17:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 20 17:03:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
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hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-18-03-20 agenda17:03
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hogepodge#chair tosky chandankumar17:03
openstackCurrent chairs: chandankumar hogepodge tosky17:03
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hogepodge#topic python-tempestclient17:03
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hogepodgetake it away tosky and chandankumar17:04
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chandankumarhogepodge: sure17:05
chandankumarBased on the feedback received from the ptg on tempestconf17:05
chandankumarI have created stories17:05
chandankumar    Generate accounts.yaml when --os-cloud is used with python-tempestconf (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001693)]17:05
chandankumar    Fix tempestconf job having demo user (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001695)]17:05
chandankumar    Refactor tempestconf in order to integrate with refstack_client tool (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001696)]17:05
chandankumarFor first one work is in progress here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554480/17:06
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chandankumarCurrently I am working on updating my previous integration patches17:06
toskymaybe we need some more fine-grained tasks in the stories17:07
toskybut let's see17:07
chandankumarApart from that, https://review.openstack.org/537355 [Decouple TempestConf class] is good to go from myself, unless tosky and arxcruz have something to say17:07
arxcruzno issues for me17:08
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chandankumarhttps://review.openstack.org/540177 and https://review.openstack.org/533434 tripleo jobs are failing recheck done, once passed, we will do a final go through17:08
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chandankumaron https://review.openstack.org/519714 ec2api support no updates till now17:08
chandankumarthat's it from my side on tempestconf17:09
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hogepodgegreat, thanks17:09
hogepodgeI'm looking forward to the work being merged into the refstack client17:09
hogepodge#topic refstack17:10
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hogepodgeOn Subunit upload, we're waiting on merges to subunit2sql before those API changes can move forward17:11
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hogepodgemguiney: any comments on the API updates?17:11
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mguineyyep, i have a few more things to fix on the subunit2sql delete uuid patch before it will be ready for merge17:12
mguineyi'm also hoping to get the last of the api tests pushed fairly shortly17:13
hogepodgeok17:13
hogepodgethere's the db naming patch17:13
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549257/ DB Naming17:13
mguineyapologies, ended up losing a day and a half to technical issues, so I had a short week last week17:13
hogepodgelooks like it should be a quick merge? I just have to run it locally17:14
hogepodgeThe highest priority for refstack is in getting new capability sources merged17:14
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547246/ New Capability Sources17:14
hogepodgeThat takes priority over everything else right now, with the approval of the new guidelines at the PTG by the board of directors17:15
hogepodgeI set it up locally and will be testing it today.17:15
mguineyexcellent17:15
hogepodgeIn setting up the build, NPM is throwing lots of warnings that I think will eventually cause us problems.17:16
hogepodgeWe should be looking at how to migrate forward to newer versions and help future-proof the deployment. NPM has a nasty history of breaking the world if you're not up to date on it.17:17
hogepodgeSo, I'm thinking, order of priorities is:17:17
hogepodge1 new capability sources17:17
hogepodge2 investigate npm migration17:17
hogepodge3 subunit upload17:18
hogepodge(of course, if there's easy work to get done on subunit, like with subunit2sql, we shouldn't hold that work up)17:18
hogepodgeany comments on that?17:18
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hogepodgeok, hearing nothing on that17:20
hogepodge#topic open discussion17:20
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hogepodgeAny other items folks wanted to bring up?17:20
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toskynothing from me17:20
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mguiney_altsorry, having issues with my irc17:21
mguiney_altyeah, the subunit2sql work shouldnt take too long, and that sounds like a solid priority stack17:21
mguiney_alti'll get on that as soon as possible17:22
hogepodgecool.17:22
hogepodgeanything else?17:22
mguiney_altnope!17:23
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hogepodgeok, have a great week everybody!17:24
hogepodge#endmeeting17:24
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