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| toabctl | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 5 12:03:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:03 |
| toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 12:03 |
| toabctl | #chair jpena|lunch dirk | 12:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk jpena|lunch toabctl | 12:03 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:03 |
| toabctl | #topic roll call | 12:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:03 | |
| toabctl | hey number80 | 12:03 |
| number80 | I'm in another meeting but following | 12:03 |
| toabctl | let's wait a bit for others | 12:03 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:05 |
| dirk | sorry, was afk | 12:05 |
| toabctl | hi dirk | 12:06 |
| toabctl | please add things to the agenda if needed | 12:08 |
| toabctl | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:08 |
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| toabctl | ok. let's start | 12:09 |
| toabctl | #topic PTL proxy needed | 12:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL proxy needed (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:09 | |
| toabctl | I'll be out for a month (~ mid oct) and I think we need a PTL proxy for that time. | 12:10 |
| toabctl | any volunteer ? | 12:10 |
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| toabctl | dirk, number80 ? | 12:11 |
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| dirk | I can do it probably | 12:11 |
| dirk | the main issue is number of core reviewers actually | 12:11 |
| toabctl | yes | 12:11 |
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| toabctl | in fact there is only dirk , jpena|lunch , aplanas and me | 12:12 |
| dirk | well, Igor occassionally | 12:12 |
| toabctl | ah.true | 12:12 |
| dirk | we could maybe invite jon schlueter ? | 12:12 |
| dirk | he wasn't very active in teh last few days but seemed interested at the PTG | 12:13 |
| dirk | number80: could you talk to him? | 12:13 |
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| toabctl | number80, jpena or is there a chance to increase reviews from the RDO side? | 12:16 |
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| jpena | we could bring either Jon or chandankumar, if they'd like to contribute | 12:17 |
| number80 | Yep, pinging Jon | 12:17 |
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| number80 | Well, I'm still in the middle of discussions to clarify my status (can't tell more yet) | 12:18 |
| toabctl | ok | 12:18 |
| dirk | #action number80 ping jon or chandankumar | 12:19 |
| toabctl | so is everybody ok with dirk as the PTL proxy? | 12:19 |
| dirk | jpena: yes, good point, he was also interested in helping out | 12:19 |
| number80 | +1 with dirk | 12:20 |
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| jpena | +1 for disk | 12:21 |
| toabctl | #agreed dirk will the proxy PTL | 12:21 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 12:22 |
| toabctl | hey chandankumar | 12:22 |
| chandankumar | hello toabctl | 12:22 |
| toabctl | #topic packaging review | 12:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "packaging review (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:22 | |
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| toabctl | anything special in the queue? | 12:22 |
| chandankumar | toabctl: i will start adding missing packages related to tempest plugins | 12:22 |
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| toabctl | chandankumar, that would be great! | 12:23 |
| dirk | toabctl: maybe look over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492931/ again | 12:23 |
| dirk | hopefully with a new renderspec release we could start getting some green there | 12:23 |
| dirk | I'm just finishing fixing the suse ci fallout again | 12:23 |
| toabctl | dirk, ok. I'm waiting for a green RDO CI in that case | 12:23 |
| toabctl | dirk, thx | 12:23 |
| * dirk hates that things breaking faster than they can be fixed | 12:24 | |
| number80 | btw, I'm still around to fix dependencies (well, I never really stopped in that area) for RDO CI gate | 12:24 |
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| chandankumar | jpena: toabctl any other help you need from myside? my name was flashed above. | 12:24 |
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| toabctl | chandankumar, in general, reviews are very welcome | 12:25 |
| chandankumar | ack, sure :-) | 12:25 |
| toabctl | #topic open floor | 12:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:26 | |
| toabctl | anything else to discuss? | 12:26 |
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| dirk | openstack summit? | 12:28 |
| dirk | anyone going? | 12:28 |
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| dirk | we missed the forum topic submission deadline | 12:29 |
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| toabctl | dirk, where is the deadline mentioned? I can't find anything... | 12:30 |
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| dirk | toabctl: there was a mail to everyone who registered. it was september 29th | 12:31 |
| toabctl | ah. that's why I got nothing.. | 12:31 |
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| toabctl | looks like no summit feedback. I'll close the meeting then... | 12:34 |
| toabctl | thanks | 12:36 |
| toabctl | #endmeeting | 12:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 5 12:36:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-10-05-12.03.html | 12:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-10-05-12.03.txt | 12:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-10-05-12.03.log.html | 12:36 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 5 15:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| raissa_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| bswartz | so there's nothing on the agenda today, and no announcements | 15:01 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | we can talk about whatever we like | 15:01 |
| bswartz | we should cover the gate issues | 15:01 |
| ganso | drivers_private_storage hard-delete vs soft-delete | 15:01 |
| bswartz | and try to clear up any other discussions | 15:01 |
| bswartz | ^ yes like that | 15:01 |
| dustins | bswartz: I've got an update on the bug czar thing when the gate stuff is discussed | 15:01 |
| bswartz | okay I cobbled together a quick agenda | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic Gate issues | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate issues (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| bswartz | so it looks like the zuulv3 migration broke our gate late last week | 15:03 |
| bswartz | last I checked, infra was working on the issue but that might not still be true | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | has anyone else looked into recent failures? | 15:03 |
| tbarron | so zuulv3 is now non-gating | 15:04 |
| bswartz | pep8 is failing with this error: | 15:04 |
| tbarron | zuulv2 aka jenkins is running again on check and gate | 15:04 |
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| tbarron | zuulv3 works more or less like a third party job | 15:04 |
| bswartz | http://paste.openstack.org/show/622774/ | 15:04 |
| bswartz | looks like we have a bad hacking check | 15:04 |
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| ganso | bswartz: other CIs are not failing for that reason though | 15:05 |
| bswartz | CI failures are not relevant to the gate | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: which patch was that pep8 failure on? | 15:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: first-party CIs I meant | 15:06 |
| bswartz | oh it could just be I looked at at broken patch | 15:06 |
| bswartz | doh | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | there're some recent patches from vkmc that are going to fix py3x for us, guess it's a genuine failure from one of them :D | 15:06 |
| bswartz | yeah it seems so | 15:07 |
| bswartz | okay we should just try some more known-good patches and see what fails if anything | 15:07 |
| bswartz | then address those issues | 15:07 |
| bswartz | I'm deep in the process of rewriting generic driver | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | jenkins upstream's passing now, but i haven't looked at why my fancy CI is broken.. probably needs some tinkering, based off how upstream fixed stuff | 15:07 |
| tbarron | well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508680/ works with zuulv2 | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | s/my fancy ci/third party CI | 15:08 |
| tbarron | except maybe something screwy with the coverage job | 15:08 |
| ganso | bswartz: this is a good one to watch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508680/ | 15:08 |
| bswartz | yes | 15:08 |
| ganso | oops, too late | 15:08 |
| tbarron | not that zuulv3 is supposed to run on recheck but it's in a different queue with many fewer nodes | 15:09 |
| tbarron | so it will eventually run .... theoretically | 15:09 |
| bswartz | if 3rd party CIs are broken, talk to the infra and QA teams -- I'm not sure there's anything we can do about it on this team | 15:09 |
| ganso | tbarron: the coverage job is not working locally as well | 15:09 |
| tbarron | but on this patch the last zuulv3 is from 9/30 ... | 15:09 |
| tbarron | ganso: yeah, i haven't had time to chase it | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | okay let's move on to the issue that's been causing so much strife | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic drivers_private_storage hard-delete vs soft-delete | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "drivers_private_storage hard-delete vs soft-delete (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:10 | |
| ganso | lol | 15:10 |
| tbarron | ganso is causing trouble again | 15:10 |
| bswartz | ganso raised this issue in the channel 2 days ago | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | strife, i miss vponomaryov | 15:10 |
| ganso | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1721123 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721123 in Manila "cannot update previously deleted drivers_private_storage entries" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rodrigo Barbieri (rodrigo-barbieri2010) | 15:10 |
| tbarron | beelzebub | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | he-who-must-not-be-named | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | we have a pattern of using soft deletes everywhere | 15:11 |
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| ganso | xD | 15:11 |
| bswartz | it seems there's a bug with the sqlalchemy layer related to deleted driver private share data | 15:11 |
| bswartz | I don't understand why we don't just fix this bug and move on | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | expressed my opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1721123 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721123 in Manila "cannot update previously deleted drivers_private_storage entries" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rodrigo Barbieri (rodrigo-barbieri2010) | 15:12 |
| bswartz | what's the reason for considering hard deletes? | 15:12 |
| ganso | this bug stirred discussion on whether soft-deletes make sense for drivers_private_storage | 15:12 |
| bswartz | soft deletes are faster and we do them everywhere else | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | because it is a key value store that no one knows how to use besides individual driver authors, so what's the point of soft deleted? | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | deleted* | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | why would we want to be inconsistent here? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | the point of soft deletion is that it's what we do everywhere else | 15:13 |
| vkmc | O/ | 15:13 |
| bswartz | and it's arguably faster than hard deletion | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | in a key-value store like driver-private-data, soft-deleting is unnecessary | 15:13 |
| bswartz | you need a really good reason to add an inconsistency to our databae model | 15:13 |
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| gouthamr | i.e, will lead to us writing weird logic to reuse an existing "deleted" row | 15:14 |
| ganso | it also does not add value to store stale private_storage information | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | and defeats one use case of soft-deletes: keeping things around for auditing | 15:14 |
| bswartz | it's not necessary anywhere -- we chose to do it for the advantages it offers | 15:14 |
| bswartz | I agree nobody cares about auditing old deleted driver private share data | 15:14 |
| bswartz | that's not a good argument for hard deletion though | 15:14 |
| ganso | the bugfixed soft-delete code would allow entries to be "undeleted", so it loses its purpose | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | ganso +1 | 15:15 |
| bswartz | who cares? | 15:15 |
| bswartz | it's up to the driver to do what it wants with that data | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | absolutely, so if a driver deletes something, it expects it gone | 15:16 |
| bswartz | as long as the driver can do what it wants, I see no issue | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | if we're going to start seeing SQL exceptions, that's bad design | 15:16 |
| bswartz | soft deletes should look like "gone" from the driver perspective | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | handling updates on key-value stores isn't straightforward, as is evidenced by the insertion logic | 15:17 |
| bswartz | if not, there's a bug, and we should fix it | 15:17 |
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| ganso | bswartz: they actually would not be | 15:17 |
| bswartz | explain | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | #LINK https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L3497 | 15:17 |
| ganso | bswartz: the alternative that fixes the bug with soft-deletes needs to query the soft-deleted entries to undeleted them... so they are not really gone | 15:18 |
| ganso | bswartz: this happens in the DB layer though | 15:18 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:18 |
| bswartz | so if I add a key that was previously deleted, the DB layer just undeletes the old value and updates it | 15:18 |
| bswartz | that seems like optimal behavior to me | 15:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: it has been designed that way, but the bug prevents that exact scenario you described | 15:19 |
| bswartz | and if we fix the bug, then what's the problem? | 15:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: we can fix it with soft-deletes or hard-deletes | 15:19 |
| bswartz | let's assume hard deletes aren't the answer | 15:20 |
| ganso | bswartz: it will remove part of the insertion logic gouthamr linked | 15:20 |
| bswartz | what's the problem after we fix the soft delete bug? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | if we fix the bug and maintain consistency with soft-deltetes elsewhere, what's the problem? | 15:20 |
| bswartz | or is fixing the soft delete bug extremely hard? | 15:20 |
| ganso | there's no problem other than some code duplication performing another query | 15:20 |
| ganso | it is not | 15:20 |
| tbarron | earlier I think you said it makes ugly code? | 15:20 |
| ganso | tbarron: yes | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | we effectively pay the price of the time saved | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | by soft-deleting | 15:21 |
| bswartz | the existing code isn't very pretty | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so ugliness is a price we've already paid | 15:21 |
| bswartz | don't assume that a soft-undelete is expensive | 15:21 |
| ganso | bswartz: hard-deletes you make the code less ugly while soft deletes make it uglier :D | 15:22 |
| bswartz | UPDATES and SELECTS are usually very fast | 15:22 |
| bswartz | INSERTS and DELETES are usually very slow | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | depending on the size of the table, or so SQL documentation tells me | 15:22 |
| ganso | gouthamr: hummm, so if we have a lot of old soft-deleted keys lying around, updates are going to be more expensive than a delete, am I right? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | if the argument comes down to performance, then we have to benchmark the alternatives and see which is faster in practice | 15:23 |
| bswartz | my argument is one of simple consistency with existing code | 15:23 |
| bswartz | and I suspect the performance differences are not large in either case | 15:23 |
| tbarron | probably a small table | 15:24 |
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| tbarron | but maybe not i guess | 15:24 |
| bswartz | in a previous project we implemented soft deletes purely for the performance gain -- but that was a different database in a different era | 15:25 |
| ganso | in the patch I am working on which uses private storage, if I attempt to migrate a share and fail over and over and over until I succeed, all those attempts will be lying around in the drivers_private_storage database soft-deleted | 15:25 |
| bswartz | It sounds like the only downside to just fixing the existing soft delete code is that there is some code ugliness or duplication | 15:25 |
| bswartz | I suspect we can clean it up in code review | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | okay, and if we're not able to do that, we can go down the path of hard deletes? | 15:26 |
| ganso | we have the manila-manage command to clean soft-deleted entries though, but that has to be performed manually | 15:26 |
| bswartz | if there is a good reason for hard deletes we'll do them | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I'm still waiting for the good reason | 15:27 |
| bswartz | there's a benefit to code readability from using soft deletes across the board | 15:28 |
| bswartz | we shouldn't give that up unless we're gaining something else really big | 15:28 |
| bswartz | okay let's move on | 15:29 |
| bswartz | #topic Bug Czar | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Czar (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:29 | |
| bswartz | dustins: you had more to share on this topic? | 15:29 |
| dustins | bswartz: Yeah! | 15:29 |
| dustins | So I'm starting to go through the list of Manila bugs that we have open on Launchpad | 15:30 |
| * bswartz cringes | 15:30 | |
| dustins | And I'm going to go through some of the ones that haven't been updated in the last cycle or so | 15:30 |
| dustins | (some haven't been touched in nearly three years) | 15:30 |
| dustins | Just to have a baseline of what needs to be fixed where | 15:30 |
| dustins | For things that are outstanding, I'll leave comments asking what the status is and if it's urgent, I'll find you on IRC :) | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | dustins: you had said you'd like to use part of this meeting to review bugs | 15:31 |
| dustins | bswartz: Is there a way that I can be notified of new bugs added to launchpad as they come in? | 15:31 |
| bswartz | oh yeah | 15:32 |
| ganso | dustins is the new bug police | 15:32 |
| markstur | Czar! | 15:32 |
| * bswartz checks LP groups membership | 15:32 | |
| gouthamr | king | 15:32 |
| dustins | ganso: I prefer Bug Sherpa | 15:32 |
| ganso | emperor | 15:32 |
| tbarron | dude | 15:32 |
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| dustins | I don't want to be a dictator, I just wanna help (and stay mostly benevolent) | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | supreme .... okay i'm not going there | 15:32 |
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| markstur | pretty sure if you don't capitalize king and emperor he'll be offended | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | dilly dilly | 15:33 |
| dustins | I want to get help where it's needed and provide a gentle push when required | 15:33 |
| dustins | This is to help everyone | 15:33 |
| bswartz | https://launchpad.net/~manila-bug-supervisors/+members#active | 15:33 |
| bswartz | dustins: just added you | 15:33 |
| dustins | bswartz: Thanks! | 15:33 |
| bswartz | we need to dramatically trim the membership of this group | 15:33 |
| dustins | I'll go through the bugs over the next several days and comment as I go along | 15:34 |
| dustins | If I have any questions about the status of a bug | 15:34 |
| dustins | Chances are we can reduce our backlog by a decent margin in the span of just a week | 15:34 |
| dustins | well, hopefully :D | 15:34 |
| dustins | bswartz: When you get the chance, I'd like to have the list of driver maintainers as well | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | dustins: sure thing | 15:35 |
| dustins | And I'll go ahead and codify that in the Wiki (if it's not there already) | 15:35 |
| dustins | And I'll set aside some time next week in the meeting to mention any critical bugs | 15:36 |
| bswartz | dustins: did you go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila and click "Subscribe to bug mail"? | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | ^^ nice | 15:37 |
| dustins | bswartz: Just did! | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | okay excellent | 15:37 |
| dustins | bswartz: That's all I have for today, thanks, everyone! | 15:38 |
| bswartz | dustins: while I have a list of driver maintainers based on historical conversations, we should be using something like driver log for the official record | 15:38 |
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| dustins | bswartz: Driver log? As in "in the driver code"? | 15:39 |
| bswartz | I haven't checked how many manila drivers are there, but if any are missing, we should add entries with what we know and ask maintainers to make updates there | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | dustins: https://github.com/openstack/driverlog | 15:39 |
| dustins | sounds good | 15:40 |
| bswartz | dustins: this is the 5500 line json horror-show we discussed last week | 15:40 |
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| dustins | bswartz: Oh, it's THAT | 15:40 |
| bswartz | it's still an official record and better than some spreadsheet on bswartz's laptop | 15:40 |
| dustins | That's a LOT of JSON | 15:41 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure we can get driverlog changed from json to yaml but it would be nice | 15:41 |
| dustins | So...uhh...I'll have a look at this and see if everything's up to date and ping folks that need to update the driver log | 15:41 |
| bswartz | yeah that's the best path forward | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | and we can work together on filling gaps in the data | 15:42 |
| dustins | JSON seems like a silly format for this, but that's a discussion for another time and place | 15:42 |
| bswartz | indeed | 15:42 |
| dustins | Indeed! | 15:42 |
| bswartz | YAML > JSON | 15:42 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:42 | |
| bswartz | anyone have something else for today? | 15:43 |
| bswartz | we didn't spend any time discussion specs today but the deadline to review and merge those is coming up fast | 15:43 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | it's a 8 day national holiday in china... | 15:44 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 5 15:44:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-10-05-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-10-05-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-10-05-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 5 17:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| lhinds | hey all. | 17:00 |
| lhinds | #topic roll call | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
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| lhinds | anyone around, gagehugo perhaps, mdong ssathaye others.. | 17:01 |
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| lhinds | k, let's see how we do next week. I have to run anyway, so no issue. | 17:05 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:05 |
| gagehugo | ok | 17:05 |
| lhinds | oh hi gagehugo | 17:05 |
| lhinds | I think its just us :) | 17:05 |
| jessegler | o/ | 17:05 |
| gagehugo | :) | 17:05 |
| lhinds | hi jessegler | 17:05 |
| lhinds | ok, so we have some peeps so we can have a quick meeting | 17:06 |
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| lhinds | #topic agenda | 17:06 |
| ssathaye | o/ | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:06 | |
| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:06 |
| lhinds | hey ssathaye ! | 17:06 |
| ssathaye | Hello! | 17:06 |
| lhinds | #topic SIG | 17:06 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "SIG (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:06 | |
| lhinds | apologies not had a chance to arrange tierry coming in, it was a made week with the dnsmasq stuff | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | s/made/mad | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | #topic documentation | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "documentation (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:07 | |
| lhinds | so our PTG session docs scrum patch on secrets management is about to land: | 17:07 |
| lhinds | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451965/ | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | just needs a docs core | 17:08 |
| lhinds | lhinds nudges asettle | 17:08 |
| lhinds | :P | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | I also spoke to someone who would like to contribute a lot more and should be on next week I hope | 17:08 |
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| gagehugo | awesome | 17:09 |
| lhinds | #topic bandit | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bandit (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:09 | |
| lhinds | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit | 17:09 |
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| lhinds | so looks like we still have some zuul issues | 17:09 |
| lhinds | I did post to the zuul 3 thread about this, and did not get a bite. | 17:10 |
| gagehugo | yeah, jenkins is the one gating now though while the zuul v3 issues get sorted out | 17:10 |
| lhinds | I will chase this up again, fungi had some ideas on what was causing the failure | 17:10 |
| lhinds | did not know that gagehugo , thanks | 17:10 |
| fungi | ooh, i did? | 17:11 |
| gagehugo | :o | 17:11 |
| lhinds | http://logs.openstack.org/44/504544/6/check/legacy-bandit-integration-glance_store/941b7a5/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-05_13_25_17_855395 | 17:11 |
| fungi | ahh, right, the missing requirements repo as a required project | 17:11 |
| lhinds | fungi: the requirements.txt in the above. | 17:11 |
| gagehugo | ah | 17:11 |
| lhinds | I can't recall ah discussion, but you seemed to grok the problem | 17:11 |
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| lhinds | s/ah/our | 17:12 |
| fungi | though this doesn't look like the earlier error | 17:12 |
| fungi | here's what you're looking for: http://logs.openstack.org/44/504544/6/check/legacy-bandit-integration-glance_store/941b7a5/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-05_13_25_21_232260 | 17:13 |
| fungi | yeah, still the same problem. i'll get a patch proposed | 17:13 |
| lhinds | ohh, yep. | 17:13 |
| lhinds | thanks fungi | 17:13 |
| lhinds | so once that is working again we can merge Rajaths haslib.new() patch | 17:14 |
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| gagehugo | you can merge it now if you want, it passes v2 | 17:14 |
| gagehugo | but we can also wait to have it pass v3 to be safe I guess | 17:15 |
| lhinds | i guess we can wait, get ebrown's blessing too. | 17:15 |
| gagehugo | sounds good | 17:15 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 17:15 |
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| lhinds | same also for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459618/ | 17:16 |
| lhinds | I will drop him an email | 17:16 |
| lhinds | but that looks good to merge too. | 17:16 |
| gagehugo | yeah that's a simple change | 17:16 |
| lhinds | ping mdong | 17:16 |
| lhinds | any other bandit stuff gagehugo ? | 17:17 |
| gagehugo | not that I know of atm | 17:17 |
| lhinds | cool | 17:17 |
| lhinds | will skip Syntribos this week | 17:17 |
| lhinds | #topic OSSN | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:17 | |
| lhinds | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn | 17:18 |
| lhinds | we have a few open, dnsmasq is sorted | 17:18 |
| lhinds | if anyone has an interest let me know | 17:18 |
| lhinds | a good low hanging way to get involved | 17:18 |
| lhinds | #topic Keystone VMT Coverage | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone VMT Coverage (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:19 | |
| ssathaye | I am looking at it | 17:19 |
| ssathaye | lhinds - will set up a separate time to chat | 17:19 |
| lhinds | fungi: what would be a good time for you to work on the above with me. | 17:19 |
| lhinds | ssathaye: sounds great! | 17:19 |
| lhinds | fungi: thinking of zuul being a strong need for you. | 17:20 |
| ssathaye | lhinds, fungi: perhaps I can listen in / participate | 17:20 |
| fungi | lhinds: what needs to be talked about? | 17:20 |
| fungi | keystone is already covered by the vmt (grandfathered in under earlier acceptance) | 17:20 |
| gagehugo | there's a document for keystonemiddleware | 17:21 |
| lhinds | would that include middleware client too? | 17:21 |
| lhinds | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447139/ | 17:21 |
| fungi | oh, the keystone-middleware review | 17:21 |
| fungi | thanks, the meeting topic was vague | 17:21 |
| lhinds | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447139/6/doc/source/artifacts/keystonemiddleware/pike/architecture-page.rst@20 | 17:21 |
| lhinds | fungi: I can ping you offline about times, no need to have something now | 17:22 |
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| fungi | ahh, yeah i really don't know for the coming week. between elections and zuulv3 activity i'm pretty swamped | 17:22 |
| fungi | we can just kick it around in #openstack-security when we're both around and free | 17:23 |
| lhinds | fungi: no concern, lets look again in a week or two..I will get it started and underway with ssathaye 's help | 17:23 |
| lhinds | fungi: +1 sounds good | 17:23 |
| fungi | i haven't had time to look at that review yet, to be honest | 17:23 |
| lhinds | np | 17:23 |
| lhinds | so last of all. | 17:23 |
| gagehugo | please ping me if there are any issues with that as well | 17:23 |
| lhinds | #topic Sydney panel | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney panel (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:23 | |
| lhinds | will do gagehugo | 17:24 |
| fungi | gagehugo: well, i'll leave comments on the review for sure ;) | 17:24 |
| gagehugo | fungi awesome | 17:24 |
| lhinds | fungi: can you remember the irc handle of the lady handling the panel members ? | 17:24 |
| lhinds | allison | 17:24 |
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| lhinds | got it now. | 17:24 |
| lhinds | so we only have gagehugo so far :) | 17:25 |
| fungi | lhinds: aprice | 17:25 |
| lhinds | aprice: you around? | 17:25 |
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| gagehugo | I asked in the keystone meeting for other volunteers to ping either lhinds or I for keystone | 17:25 |
| lhinds | k, thanks gagehugo | 17:25 |
| gagehugo | but I should be there and can talk | 17:25 |
| aprice | I am here | 17:26 |
| lhinds | we still have a little time, so lets keep it on the agenda | 17:26 |
| lhinds | hi aprice | 17:26 |
| lhinds | we have not had much uptake on the media panel yet | 17:26 |
| lhinds | but we can keep the ask open and see what happens. | 17:26 |
| aprice | yeah, Dave from the Barbican team emailed me directly. | 17:26 |
| lhinds | ok cool, that's good | 17:26 |
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| aprice | Our team followed up with me this week that the reporter may not be attending anymore and I gave them a deadline of EOW to let me know for sure. | 17:27 |
| lhinds | so you have barbican and keystone now. | 17:27 |
| lhinds | ok, thanks aprice | 17:27 |
| aprice | yes, which I think is good. and I will let everyone know by EOD Friday on the status of the panel | 17:27 |
| lhinds | will ping you next week see what the result was | 17:27 |
| lhinds | thanks aprice | 17:27 |
| gagehugo | ok | 17:27 |
| lhinds | ok.. | 17:27 |
| aprice | thank you! | 17:27 |
| lhinds | #topic any other biz? | 17:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other biz? (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:27 | |
| lhinds | ok..thanks all. | 17:28 |
| lhinds | see you next week! | 17:28 |
| ssathaye | nope | 17:28 |
| ssathaye | see you...thanks | 17:28 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 5 17:28:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-10-05-17.00.html | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-10-05-17.00.txt | 17:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-10-05-17.00.log.html | 17:29 |
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