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edleafe#startmeeting nova_scheduler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 25 14:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:00
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edleafeGood UGT morning! Who's here?14:00
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cdento/14:01
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bauzas\o14:03
* edleafe watches people slowly trickle in...14:03
edleafe#topic Specs and Reviews14:03
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edleafeLet's start with the specs14:03
edleafe#link WIP - CPU features to be reported as traits https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497733/14:03
edleafealex_xu has that marked as WIP14:04
edleafe#link Return Alternate Hosts https://review.openstack.org/504275/14:04
edleafeThis looks like it's pretty close14:05
edleafe#link Return Selection objects https://review.openstack.org/498830/14:05
edleafeStill some concerns about naming14:05
edleafeThe existing code refers to host, nodename, and limits14:05
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edleafeShould 'host' be changed to 'compute_node'?14:06
bauzasthe Destination object mentions 'host' and 'node'14:06
bauzas'service' could be equivalent to 'host' but not 'compute node'14:07
edleafedansmith had a concern that it might be confused with the service14:07
bauzasso, the thing is14:07
bauzas(host, node) is an old tuple inherited from our dark past14:08
jaypipesedleafe: if we're referring to the service endpoint, use host, if we're referring to the thing that provides compute resources call it compute_node. at least, that's MHO14:08
bauzaswhat jaypipes said14:08
bauzasbut14:08
bauzaskeep in mind we can have multiple nodes per service14:08
edleafejaypipes: sure, understood. If this were greenfield I would agree. My concern is changing the name that is currently being used14:08
edleafeI'm happy to call it compute_node, but I want to make sure that we agree on the name change14:10
jaypipesedleafe: well, agree, it's tricky. especially since, frankly, the name right now is actually referring to *both* the service endpoint and the compute resource provider (because historically they have been tightly coupled)14:10
* alex_xu waves late14:10
edleafejaypipes: I think the problem came when I added the compute_node's uuid, which was requested14:11
edleafecalling it 'host_uuid' was the source of the confusion14:11
jaypipesedleafe: will add thoughts on the spec.14:12
edleafeSo maybe: 'compute_node_uuid', 'host', 'node_name' ?14:12
jaypipesedleafe: sorry, hadn't got to that one yet :(14:12
edleafeno problem14:12
edleafenext up14:12
edleafe#link POST /allocations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499259/14:12
bauzasedleafe: not sure I understand the problem, but I'll voice in the review14:13
edleafecdent: anything to add about that?14:13
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cdentjust that the current blocker is deciding on which representation (listish or dictish)14:13
edleafebauzas: it's just naming. Naming is hard.14:13
cdent(or both)14:13
bauzasin my mind, host == service and is *never* equal to node or resource provider14:14
edleafe#link Placement Agent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50480314:14
edleafeThis proposes to have a separate entity report resources instead of nova compute14:15
edleafeI haven't read this one yet14:15
edleafe#link Minimal cache headers in Placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496853/14:16
edleafeThis looks pretty straightforward14:16
jaypipesyup14:16
edleafeNone of us want to be bad HTTP citizens, do we?14:16
jaypipesI do! I do!14:16
* cdent gives jaypipes a malformed cookie14:17
jaypipeslol14:17
bauzasdo I need a visa for being a good HTTP citizen ?14:17
bauzasor an ESTA is enough14:17
edleafeLast spec on the list looks pretty dead14:18
edleafe#link Detailed error info for Placement API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/14:18
edleafecdent: is this still a thing?14:18
cdentI can’t really say. I had moved it to queen to see if anyone wanted to take it up14:19
cdentI can, if people think it is worthwile, but if people are meh, then I can be meh too14:19
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cdentso, are people meh or not meh?14:20
edleafeI'm kind of meh - it's nice, but is there a current problem that it would solve?14:20
mriedemheh,14:20
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/504803/1/specs/queens/approved/placement-agent.rst14:20
mriedemso, resource tracker,14:20
mriedembut not in nova-compute14:20
mriedem-214:20
cdentthat almost silence is a resounding meh, can someone with the power to do so abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/ to get it off the radar?14:21
cdentwe can bring it back later if needed14:21
edleafeyeah, it seems like noise right now14:22
* cdent nods14:22
cdentmriedem: how would you feel ab out “nova-compute, but not in nova”?14:22
bauzaswhat meh are we weighting now ?14:22
cdentbauzas: whether to do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/14:23
mriedemcdent: so clint's thing from barcelona?14:23
cdentso far the consensus seems to be “worry later, if ever"14:23
bauzascdent: ah, thanks14:23
cdentmriedem: sort of yeah, I’m mostly just joshing14:23
bauzascdent: well, MHO is that it could be nice but we're almost already pretty full14:24
edleafeNext up are a couple of Traits patches from alex_xu:14:24
edleafe#link Add traits to GET /allocation_candidates https://review.openstack.org/47977614:24
edleafe#link Add traits to get RPs with shared https://review.openstack.org/478464/14:24
cdentbauzas: agreed, so if you can abandon it that would be great (I can't)14:24
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alex_xu#link nova-spec add traits to /allocation_candidates https://review.openstack.org/49771314:25
alex_xuedleafe: ^ the spec14:25
alex_xujaypipes, thanks for the review14:25
jaypipesnpo14:26
bauzascdent: ack14:26
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edleafelet's all take the time to review these, as traits support is critical14:26
* bauzas will be back in 15-20 mins14:26
alex_xu#link nova-spec request traits in nova https://review.openstack.org/46879714:26
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edleafealex_xu: thanks - I missed those14:28
alex_xuedleafe: np14:28
edleafemoving on14:29
edleafe#link Allow _set_allocations to delete allocations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501051/14:29
edleafecdent: that one looks about ready, no?14:29
cdentyes, it and its parent are pretty done. it’s the child that still wanders14:30
mriedemcdent: i can abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/ - it's basically, no owner, low priority right?14:30
cdentmriedem: yes14:30
mriedemdone14:31
cdentdanke14:31
edleafecdent: while I have your attention14:32
edleafe#link WIP - POST /allocations for >1 consumer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500073/14:32
cdentyes, that’s the wandering child14:32
cdentwhich needs resolution of the asociated spec14:32
cdent(the listish, dictish question earlier)14:32
edleafeunderstood14:32
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cdentconceptually speaking it gets the job done okayish14:33
edleafelistish, dictish, okayish14:33
cdentish14:34
edleafeMoving onish...14:34
edleafe#link Use ksa adapter for placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492247/14:34
edleafethis looks pretty straightforward14:34
edleafe(if your into keystone stuff)14:34
edleafes/your/you're14:35
jaypipeshmm... I thought we already used ksa for placement?14:35
cdentjaypipes: this is the new style14:35
jaypipesoh, for endpoint resolution... gotcha.14:36
cdentadapter instead of session14:36
jaypipesk14:36
edleafe#link Add Alternate Hosts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486215/14:36
edleafethis one's pretty close14:36
jaypipesedleafe: just wrapped up a review on that one.14:36
jaypipesvery close. just some suggested renames14:36
edleafestill some issues with how exactly to pull from the pool of hosts to get accepatble alternates14:37
edleafejaypipes: thx14:37
edleafeAlso:14:37
edleafe#link Add Selection objects https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499239/14:38
jaypipesedleafe: what issues are you concerned about with pulling from the poolk of hosts?14:38
edleafeThis is kind of on hold until we can fix the naming issues in the spec14:38
jaypipesedleafe: you mean how to choose one or more of them?14:38
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edleafejaypipes: it is on the edge case of not many acceptable hosts14:38
jaypipesedleafe: sorry, not following you... could you elaborate?14:38
edleafeI thought itertools.cycle would help, but that can make an infinite loop14:39
mriedemedleafe: do you have functional tests somewhere in the series for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486215/ ?14:39
mriedemunit tests aren't going to cut it for alternate hosts14:39
edleafemriedem: no14:39
edleafemriedem: I guess I'll have to add some14:39
mriedemyeah....14:40
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edleafemriedem: ok, just WIP'd it14:40
mriedemwell,14:40
mriedemi guess if you're going to add later in the series, yeah14:40
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mriedemthe functional tests will really need to be after the conductor and compute parts are done14:41
mriedemso we can test reschedules happening across services14:41
edleafemriedem: I had planned on creating functional tests when it came to the RPC changes14:41
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jaypipesmriedem: yeah, I think that particular patch doesn't change the signature of select_destinations()...14:42
jaypipesmriedem: we really need func tests on the patch after that and the RPC changes.14:42
edleafejaypipes: exactly. Just the _schedule() method14:43
mriedemok14:43
mriedemand,14:43
mriedemto be clear, the rpc between conductor and scheduler isn't the interesting part so much14:44
mriedemit's the interaction between conductor and the computes14:44
mriedemlike, wherever allocations are posted/removed during rescheduels14:44
mriedem*reschedules14:44
edleafemriedem: yeah, that's happening in a much later patch14:44
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edleafeMoving on to...14:46
edleafe#topic Bugs14:46
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edleafe#link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement14:46
ralonsohhi14:46
ralonsohThere is an spec14:46
ralonsohmissing14:47
ralonsoh#link Enable SR-IOV NIC offload feature discovery  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504895/14:47
edleaferalonsoh: ok, but that's only slightly concerned with the scheduler, right?14:48
ralonsohand placement. So, where do I put this one?14:48
edleaferalonsoh: seems like a mostly nova spec14:50
edleaferalonsoh: do you have questions about it?14:50
ralonsohedleafe: no, just time form you to review it14:50
edleaferalonsoh: ok, thanks!14:51
cdentWas dan’s stack of migration uuid and allocation updates listed earlier?14:51
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cdent#link allocation by migration https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/migration-allocations+status:open14:51
edleafecdent: ah, good catch. No, I missed that series14:52
dansmithI'm still working on that of course14:52
dansmithhence all the -1s14:52
edleafedansmith: ok, just let us know when they are ready for wider review14:53
dansmithack14:53
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edleafeSo... we were on the topic of bugs :)14:53
edleafeOnly one new one this week14:53
edleafeAnd it's in progress14:54
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edleafe#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/171821214:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1718212 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Compute resource tracker does not report correct information for drivers such as vSphere" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov)14:54
edleafeAnything else for Bugs?14:54
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mriedemi've got a fix that needs final +214:55
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/506458/14:55
mriedemand below14:55
* bauzas is back14:55
mriedemthose will need to go to pike14:55
bauzasmriedem: easy peasy14:56
* edleafe admires bauzas' timing14:56
edleafe#topic Open discussion14:56
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edleafeWe have 3 minutes or so - anything to discuss?14:56
takashinHi14:56
takashin#link Enable cold migration with target host(1/2) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408955/14:57
takashinIt is ready for review. Would you review it?14:57
edleafetakashin: added to my review list14:57
takashinedleafe: Thank you.14:58
edleafeAnything else?14:58
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cdentcall it14:58
edleafecdent: sure. What should I call it? :-P14:59
cdentover under under done14:59
edleafeOK, thanks everyone!14:59
edleafe#endmeeting14:59
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dave-mccowan#startmeeting barbican20:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 25 20:01:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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ssathayedave-mccowan Hello Dave20:02
ssathayeHere for the Barbican meeting20:02
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dave-mccowanhi ssathaye20:04
dave-mccowanlight turnout so far20:05
dave-mccowanhow's it going?20:05
ssathayeoh..pretty good. How about you?20:05
dave-mccowangood.20:05
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dave-mccowanhave you gotten barbican up and running?20:06
ssathayeyes, it's up and running. made the small change to the dev doc (we briefly chatted about it @PTG)20:06
ssathayeI sent it out for review yesterday20:06
ssathayeIf this review works, then this will be my pipe-cleaner contribution :-)20:07
dave-mccowangreat!  :-)20:07
dave-mccowanwhat are you planning on for next?20:07
ssathayeI haven't decided. Got the list of latest bugs in front of the team.20:09
ssathayeLooking through them20:09
ssathayePlease, feel free to suggest20:09
dave-mccowanok, i'll think about it and ping you later with some ideas.20:10
dave-mccowani'll also make sure to review your patch.20:10
ssathayethat will be great!20:11
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aleeo/20:11
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dave-mccowanhi alee20:12
dave-mccowanssathaye and i were just chatting20:12
aleedave-mccowan, hola20:12
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aleessathaye, hello20:13
ssathayehello alee20:13
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dave-mccowani didn't plan an agenda.20:14
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dave-mccowananyone have something to bring up?20:14
aleenothing in particular - just seeing if anything is needed20:15
dave-mccowani have a patch up for --file: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506258/20:16
ssathayenothing specific, looking forward to suggestions on what a newbie can pick up for bug fixes20:16
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aleedave-mccowan, I'll take a look20:16
aleedave-mccowan, this is the --file stuff20:16
aleessathaye, we had some designattion for simple bugs ("paper cuts") or something lie that20:17
aleedave-mccowan, ^^ ?20:17
dave-mccowanalee yes, i separated it from the original patch that combined --file, -t, and something else.20:17
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dave-mccowani owe ssathaye some suggestions on what to work on next.  i'll make a queens-tracker page so we can keep a prioritized list on hand.20:18
aleecool20:18
ssathayeI am not sure I see the "paper cuts" desig on the list - there is a "wishlist" label20:18
ssathayethat will be cool20:19
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dave-mccowanalee when do you want to start working on the encryption workshop?20:19
aleedave-mccowan, I need to get official approval stull - but that should come later today20:20
aleedave-mccowan, maybe later this week, we can start planning things20:20
aleedave-mccowan, how about we schedule a call - maybe friday?20:21
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dave-mccowansounds good20:21
dave-mccowanssathaye are you planning on going to Sydney?20:21
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ssathayeno I am not. unfortunately.20:21
aleedave-mccowan, 2 pm?20:22
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aleeor 2:30 perhaps?20:22
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dave-mccowanalee ah, actually i'm planning on taking Friday off for a team celebration.  Thursday, or early next week?20:23
aleedave-mccowan, lets do early next week20:23
aleedave-mccowan, we can co-rodinate times later20:23
dave-mccowanalee sounds good.20:23
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dave-mccowanthat's all i have for today.  i'll get our plan for queens organized this week, so we can start discussing how we'll get it done at next week's meeting. :-)20:24
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dave-mccowan#endmeeting20:25
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"20:25
openstackMeeting ended Mon Sep 25 20:25:53 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:25
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ssathayegreat..thanks20:26
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leong#startmeeting product_working_group21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 25 21:00:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is leong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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leong#topic Rollcall21:01
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leonganyone here for PWG meeting?21:01
MeganRHi21:01
leonghi MeganR21:02
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MeganRHi Leong, how are you?21:02
Arkady_Kanevskyhello Megan21:02
leongi am good :-)21:02
leonghi Arkady_Kanevsky21:02
annabelleBhi there!21:02
Arkady_KanevskyHi all.21:02
MeganRHi Arkady21:02
leong#chair MeganR Arkady_Kanevsky21:02
openstackCurrent chairs: Arkady_Kanevsky MeganR leong21:02
leonglet's wait for a few more mins for other folks to join in...21:02
leonghi annabelleB21:03
MeganRHi annabelleB21:03
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leongnot sure if we have enough quorum to start...21:06
leongtoday agenda is mostly to discuss the action item from last week virtual midcycle21:06
Arkady_Kanevskywe can try.21:06
leong#link Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team21:06
Arkady_KanevskyI have 20 more minutes21:06
Arkady_KanevskyI had sent email to META SIG - so htat AI can be closed21:07
Arkady_Kanevskyuntill we get response and decide what to do21:07
leongi did summarized the #action item on the etherpad21:07
leong#link Midcycle virtual meeting etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/VIR-pwg-meetup-2017q321:07
leongsee link 230 onwards21:07
leong#topic Review virtual midcycle action item21:08
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leong#link Midcycle virtual meeting etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/VIR-pwg-meetup-2017q321:08
Arkady_Kanevskysee it21:08
Arkady_KanevskyI sent email on #188 and 200 to Meta SIG.21:09
Arkady_KanevskyI think #164 is dependent on response from it21:09
leongMeganR Arkady_Kanevsky annabelleB: if there is any item that you would like to take, feel free to add your name behind the #actionitem21:10
leongon the above etherpad link, line 230 onwards..21:10
leongArkady_Kanevsky: yes21:10
MeganRhonestly, I am not certain I really understand the items - need to go back through all of the notes21:11
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leongMeganR: understand that.. yes.. have to look through the etherpad notes for more details :-)21:12
Arkady_KanevskyI will take #15121:12
Arkady_KanevskySuggest we potspone on #161 and #164 till we get response on current email to Meta SIg.21:13
Arkady_Kanevskythanks Leong21:14
leongArkady_Kanevsky: agree21:14
Arkady_KanevskyI can start updating wiki - but it will be slow progress. I will start with #12921:15
leongArkady_Kanevsky: i can help you on wiki21:16
Arkady_Kanevskythanks. I assume that somebody else will create new wiki and new set of meetings for Roadmap team?21:16
Arkady_Kanevskyis this a subbullet under #115?21:17
Arkady_KanevskyAre we splitting meetings into PWG and Roadmap meetings groing forward? Splitting the the team into two, with some overlap between them?21:19
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Arkady_KanevskyI feel that we agreed to change PWG chapter, form Roadmap team, but left untouched how we transition us into tehse 2 groups21:21
leongsorry.. was kicked out from irc just now21:21
Arkady_Kanevskygald you are back21:21
leongArkady_Kanevsky: yes.. i assume shamail and pete will help with the transition21:21
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Arkady_KanevskyOK21:22
Arkady_KanevskyLooks like we will do the rest at the next call when we have quorum.21:22
leongArkady_Kanevsky: agree21:22
leongi will send out an email .....21:23
Arkady_Kanevsky+121:23
leongthanks everyone for your time..21:23
Arkady_Kanevskythanks everybody21:23
leongremember to review the midcycle virtual etherpad and let me know if you have question21:23
MeganRI will :)21:24
leongthanks MeganR21:24
Arkady_Kanevskydo we need to sign up for Sydney sessions this week?21:24
leongyou mean the WG and BoF ?21:24
Arkady_Kanevskyyes21:24
leongWG and BoF already submitted21:24
Arkady_Kanevskygreat21:24
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Arkady_Kanevskylet team know when they are scheduled21:24
Arkady_KanevskyArkady out21:25
leongthat also reminded me, if we have any topic propasal for Forum21:25
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leongthanks21:25
leong#endmeeting21:25
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fungilooks like no zuul meeting this week, but find us in #openstack-infra working on v3 cutover (yay!)22:06
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