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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 13 13:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:00
alexchadino/13:00
adiskyHi13:00
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alexchadinI had low activity for last two weeks due to my postgraduate exams, but it's ended now at last :)13:02
hidekazuhi13:02
alexchadinhi hidekazu13:02
alexchadinhidekazu: how was your meeting yesterday? I've seen appropriate etherpad13:03
hidekazualexchadin: nice meeting.13:03
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alexchadinlet's discuss last blueprints13:05
alexchadinI think next meeting will be the last to discuss prioritizing of blueprints13:06
alexchadinand we will return to our classic structure13:06
alexchadin#topic Blueprint Review13:06
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alexchadinQuery the list of auditable resource types for a given goal #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/query-list-of-auditable-resource-types-for-a-goal13:07
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alexchadinIt doesn't look clear to me13:09
hidekazualexchadin: me too.13:10
alexchadinI suppose it's useless in the context of current architecture13:10
alexchadinI'd tag it as obsolete13:11
alexchadinSoft delete goals during the synchronization of the plugins #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/soft-delete-goals13:12
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alexchadinit makes sense13:13
alexchadinif we remove some goals, watcher should catch it and deprecate audit templates at least13:14
hidekazuwhite board says should be moved as a bug13:14
hidekazuanyway, worth doing.13:15
alexchadincreating the bug13:15
alexchadinand mark this bp as superseded13:15
alexchadinTrigger action plan via a notification #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/trigger-action-plan-via-notification13:17
alexchadinVincent proposes to remove direct call between DE and Applier and change it to notifications13:18
alexchadinwhat would you say?13:19
suzhengweiwaht is the benefit?13:19
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suzhengweiIt would seems different with other projects in openstack.13:21
alexchadinsuzhengwei: I don't know :)13:21
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alexchadinI'd talk to vincentfrancoise about these BPs13:21
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adiskyalexchadin: any advantage??13:22
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alexchadinadisky: I don't see any for now. IMHO, notifications are more about cooperation among projects13:22
adiskyYes agreed..with suzhengwei..it will be different from traditional OpenStack project13:23
adiskyarchitecture13:23
alexchadinI'll talk to Vincent to get his opinion13:23
suzhengweiyes. in project we use rpc call, among projects we use notification or api13:23
adiskyalexchadin: +113:23
alexchadinadd a name for an audit #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/add-name-for-audit13:23
alexchadinsuzhengwei: seems everything is ok with this BP13:24
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: I'll review it soon13:24
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alexchadincluster maintance #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-maintaining13:26
suzhengweiIt's new feature. we can take it slowly.13:27
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: as Adam said before, I suppose this BP is not about optimization13:29
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: watcher is intended to execute audits continuously, this bp is for oneshot launches13:31
suzhengweiI found it in Vsphere DRS. I don;t know the better project to set it in openstack other than watcher.13:32
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: what about Masakari or Freezer?13:33
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suzhengweiinappropriate13:33
hidekazuif "cluster" is big, cluster-maintenance should be continuously, isn't it?13:34
suzhengweiyes13:34
suzhengweiIf we accept maintaining, I would import more strategy about maintaining.13:35
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: how do you plan to choose destination host?13:36
suzhengweipersonally, maintaining could be one new feature for watcher, like power saving.13:37
suzhengweialexchadin: we could talk about it in watcher chanel when we are both free.13:38
hidekazualexchadin: you confused with workload evacuate strategy ?13:38
hidekazuworkload evacuate strategy was abandoned.13:38
alexchadinsuzhengwei: sure, let's talk about on watcher channel13:40
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alexchadinhidekazu: evacuate strategy was about post-failure state of cluster. it is part of openstack freezer project https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Freezer13:41
hidekazualexchadin: sure, i understand aspiers pointed out that strategy.13:42
alexchadinmove on13:42
alexchadinHandle multiple datasources independently from the strategy #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/watcher-multi-datasource13:42
alexchadinseems that Bin Zhou isn't working on it13:44
adiskyalexchadin: i am planning to do it13:44
alexchadinwho would like to take it? :)13:44
alexchadinadisky: great!13:44
alexchadinMay I assign you?13:44
adiskyI asked bin, he could not take it up13:44
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adiskyalexchadin: yea, assign me13:45
adiskyBut keep it for queens-313:45
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alexchadinMechanism for the consolidation of multiple actions plans to a single one #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/action-plans-consolidation13:47
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alexchadindo we need it?13:48
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adiskyalexchadin: I think sometimes.it will lead to ambigous action plan13:49
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adiskyIt will have many corner cases13:50
adiskyI don't think we need it on priority13:50
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alexchadinit would be really hard to understand consolidated action plans (as for admin)13:51
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alexchadinI'll set it as undefined13:51
adisky+113:52
alexchadinMultiple global efficacy indicator #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/multiple-global-efficacy-indicator13:52
adiskyalexchadin: I am doing it13:52
adiskyIt is required for Nec zone migration strategy13:53
alexchadinadisky: will it be ok if I set low priority?13:53
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adiskyalexchadin:ok13:53
alexchadinfine!13:54
alexchadinwe've done our list today13:55
alexchadinthank you for coming!13:55
adiskyBye13:55
hidekazubye13:55
suzhengweibye13:55
alexchadinI will prepare prioritization list by end of PTG13:55
alexchadinbye13:56
alexchadin#endmeeting13:56
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 13 13:56:18 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:56
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