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aspiersmorning09:00
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aspiersor afternoon or evening :)09:01
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aspiers#startmeeting ha09:05
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 09:05:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ha'09:05
aspiershi09:06
samPhi09:06
rkmrHonjoHello09:06
aspierssamP: anything to discuss today? not much from my side09:06
aspiershi rkmrHonjo09:06
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samPI would like to introduce rkmrHonjo from masakari09:06
rkmrHonjosamP: thanks.09:07
samPHe will be working on converting masakari monitors to RA with moduler architecture09:07
aspierscool!09:08
aspiersrkmrHonjo: nice to meet you :)09:08
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aspiers#topic modular architecture09:08
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rkmrHonjoaspiers: Nice to meet you. I've checked openstack-ra repository.09:09
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aspiersrkmrHonjo: let me know if I can help09:09
rkmrHonjoaspiers: Thanks a lot! I'll ask to you if I have any questions.09:10
aspiersrkmrHonjo: do you know which bit you want to work on first?09:10
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samPaspiers: can you share the link for latest link for modular architecture?09:10
aspiers#link https://aspiers.github.io/openstack-day-israel-2017-compute-ha/#/modular09:11
samPaspiers: thanks.09:11
aspierspress Space to go through the slides09:11
rkmrHonjothanks...09:12
aspiersrkmrHonjo: are you going to Denver PTG?09:12
rkmrHonjoOK, I read it after that.09:12
rkmrHonjoaspiers: Sorry, I won't participate.09:13
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samPaspiers: Which part would you think is best to start? Host monitor?09:14
samPaspiers: Are you already working on some of those?09:14
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aspierssamP: yes I think host monitor is probably best09:15
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samPaspiers: OK then, me and rkmrHonjo can start creating PoC on Host monitoring part.09:21
aspiersI haven't had a chance to do anything significant on it yet, since we are busy with the HPE merger :-/09:21
samPaspiers: NP09:21
aspierssamP: I guess the first step is to update the spec09:21
samPaspiers: sure09:21
aspiershttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst09:21
aspiersit would describe https://aspiers.github.io/openstack-day-israel-2017-compute-ha/#/nova-host-alerter09:21
samPaspiers: spec for "nova-host-alerter" will be in instance-ha-host-recovery spec?09:21
samPaspiers: or will it be a separate spec for modular architecture?09:21
aspierswell, technically we also need a instance-ha-host-monitoring spec09:21
aspierssince nova-host-alerter is in the top half of the diagram (monitoring) not the bottom (recovery)09:21
samPaspiers: agree09:21
aspierssee https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha line 11909:21
aspiersline 124 is out of date now09:21
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rkmrHonjosamP, aspiers: OK. I start to design host monitor at first.09:21
rkmrHonjoShould I design RA monitor with moduler architecture now? or, without it until completing implementation?09:21
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aspierspreviously we thought that Pacemaker would do all the monitoring09:21
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aspiersrkmrHonjo: I think we should finish the two host monitoring/recovery specs first, to make sure we all agree on the design09:22
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rkmrHonjoaspires: OK.09:23
aspiersso the monitoring part is pacemaker + pacemaker_remote + fence_compute + nova-host-alerter09:23
samPaspiers: agree09:23
aspiersgreat09:23
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samPaspiers: however, "nova-host-alerter" or something like that would be common for all the monitors?09:24
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aspiersyou mean for VM monitoring/recovery?09:25
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samPaspiers: yes09:25
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aspiersmaybe eventually, but I think it is good enough to stick with masakari-vmmonitor for now09:26
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samPaspiers: ok09:26
aspiersif there are other VM recovery services in the future, we could extend masakari-vmmonitor to talk to them09:26
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aspiersI guess there's no advantage to generalising VM monitoring while there is only one option :)09:28
samPaspiers: got it..09:28
samPaspiers: let's update the spec first. Once things get fixed in the spec, rkmrHonjo and me can start the PoC for this.09:29
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aspierssounds perfect, thanks a lot!09:30
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samPaspiers: will you be able to update the spec? or should I start working on that?09:32
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aspierssamP: there's already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406659/09:34
aspiersit is not merged yet, so we can update to include nova-host-alerter09:34
aspierswhich is what ddeja's final comment suggested, anyway :)09:35
samPaspiers: yep09:35
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aspiersI will update that09:36
samPaspiers: great..thanks09:36
aspiersand we also need to update https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst09:36
rkmrHonjoaspiers: thank you...09:37
aspiersrkmrHonjo: thank you for joining :)09:37
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rkmrHonjoaspiers: You're welcome.09:39
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samPaspiers: OK, if ddeja wouldn't mind, I can take over this..09:41
aspierssamP: ok I guess we're done, unless you have anything else today?09:41
aspierssamP: I'm sure ddeja wouldn't mind09:41
samPaspiers: ok then I will fix that09:41
aspiersgreat, thanks!09:41
aspiersalright. I will work on the monitoring spec ASAP09:41
samPaspiers: session proposed for Ops Meetup in MEX09:41
aspiersoh nice!09:42
samP#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup09:42
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aspiers#action aspiers to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406659/ to latest architecture09:42
aspiers#action samP to update https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst to latest architecture09:42
samPI will update you about ops meetup09:42
aspiersgreat09:42
aspiersmy manager is finding out whether I can go to Denver09:42
aspierswill you be there?09:42
samPaspiers: yes, I will be there..09:42
aspierscool09:42
aspiersfingers crossed I can go :)09:43
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rkmrHonjo__Sorry, my network is unstable today.09:43
aspiersrkmrHonjo__: np09:43
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samPaspiers: ok then, nothing else from my side09:43
aspiersrkmrHonjo__: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.log.txt09:44
samPaspiers: I will update you on ML about ops and other topics09:44
aspiersperfect09:44
aspiersok, so we can close the meeting - thanks a lot both, and see you on #openstack-ha!09:44
samPaspiers: thank you..09:44
samPrkmrHonjo__: thank you09:44
aspiers#endmeeting09:45
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Jul 26 09:45:04 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:45
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.html09:45
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rkmrHonjo__tahnk you all!09:45
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.log.html09:45
rkmrHonjo__s/tahnk/thank/09:45
rkmrHonjo__bye09:45
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 14:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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devkulkarni#endmeeting14:42
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Jul 26 14:42:38 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:42
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.html14:42
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.txt14:42
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.log.html14:42
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trevormco/15:04
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trevormchey smatzek, looks like amrith is not here.15:06
smatzeklooks to be the case15:07
trevormc.. going to move into #openstack-trove.15:07
amrithhi guys15:11
amrithsorry, missed the time slot15:11
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trevormcsorry im late.16:04
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 17:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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timsim#topic Roll Call17:01
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timsimmugsie trungnv hieulq17:01
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trungnv_o/17:01
mugsieo/17:01
timsimi don't see any new bugs/bp-worth items17:02
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:03
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trungnv_mugsie, Do you have any update for OVO testing?17:03
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mugsietrungnv_: no - I was on vacation last weekend, so i did not get to finish testing17:04
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mugsieand we were quite busy doing a release17:04
mugsiebut I think things are quieting down a bit soon17:04
trungnv_yep. I am understand your situation now.17:04
timsimOh that reminds me, I think P3 is friday17:04
trungnv_yep.17:05
timsimTomorrow, actually.17:05
timsimGuess I better do that17:05
mugsie:D17:05
mugsieyes17:05
trungnv_mugsie, I got your comments in OSM PS. I am still working on it.17:07
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mugsiegreat17:07
trungnv_How do you think about trigger-based solution for Designate at the moment?17:07
mugsieI am not convinced - it looks quite complex17:08
mugsieis it used anywhere else?17:08
trungnv_yep. you can look at keystone, glance17:09
mugsieOK - maybe seeing how they use it might be OK17:09
trungnv_quite 2 approaches in this case17:10
trungnv_I still keep normal upgrade17:10
trungnv_on migrate-repo17:10
trungnv_and I will separate 3 new repos for upgrade with zero-downtime17:11
trungnv_*separate created17:11
mugsieno - we need to have one way to upgrade17:11
mugsieI will look at the keystone + glance - and see how they did it17:11
trungnv_yeo. sure.17:11
trungnv_keystone use both.17:12
mugsiereally? that seems .... dangerous17:13
mugsieOK - I will look at it17:13
trungnv_Yep. please let me know your comments with my solution when you look at them on other project.17:14
mugsieOK17:14
trungnv_I also a schedule to working on OVO solution for OSM which named trigger-less.17:14
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trungnv_but this solution need to merged OVO code-base first.17:16
mugsieyeap17:16
trungnv_mugsie, Please understand then trigger-based which use to upgrade with zero-downtime.17:17
trungnv_and current solution via migrate-repo which use to upgrading with downtime(have downtime)17:18
mugsieI will look at it17:19
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trungnv_yep. thanks.17:20
mugsieis that everything?17:20
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timsimGoing once...17:21
trungnv_In the next time, OVO and OSM could be next future of Designate when you talk in summit?17:21
mugsieyeah - they could be17:22
mugsiethe summit is a while away :)17:22
mugsieit may be "the current" designate17:22
trungnv_wow. thanks. :)17:23
timsimAlright, anything else to discuss?17:24
trungnv_no. thanks.17:24
mugsienothing from mew17:24
mugsieme*17:24
timsimAlright, see you all in #openstack-dns17:25
timsim#endmeeting17:25
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-07-26-17.01.html17:25
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-07-26-17.01.txt17:25
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