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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 12 14:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'14:00
zhuronghi devkulkarni14:01
devkulkarnihi zhurong14:01
devkulkarnigood to see you14:01
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devkulkarnilets wait couple of minutes for others to join14:02
zhurongsure14:03
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devkulkarnialright, lets begin14:04
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zhurongOK14:04
devkulkarniso main things for today are Sydney presentation and Docs patches14:04
devkulkarniLets first discuss Docs patches as that is straight forward14:05
devkulkarniI have reviewed all the patches; I saw you have updated the one patch for which I had a comment14:05
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devkulkarniI will wait for Jenkins to +1 it before approving14:05
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zhurongthanks devkulkarni14:06
devkulkarnithanks to you. great to see we are on top of the docs migration effort14:07
devkulkarniwhat else is now remaining on this front?14:07
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devkulkarniI believe we need to still make the patch to update our docs job right?14:08
devkulkarnizhurong: looking at  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking14:08
zhurongnp, seems infra guys had already done from global14:09
devkulkarnioh I see14:09
devkulkarniso we don't have to do that then?14:09
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zhurongyep, we don't have to do this14:10
devkulkarniI guess that was step number 9 (line 48)14:10
zhurongyep14:11
devkulkarnicool14:11
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devkulkarniand I remember we had said that point number 7 and 8 don't apply to us at this stage14:12
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devkulkarniso what do you think is now remaining?14:13
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zhurongI think we are almost done about the doc migration14:14
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devkulkarnicool14:15
devkulkarnithat is great zhurong. thanks for spearheading this effort14:16
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devkulkarninext topic is sydney submission14:17
devkulkarnithe deadline is July 14th14:17
devkulkarnias we discussed other day on solum channel, we should definitely submit a talk14:18
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zhurongyep, agree with this14:18
devkulkarniwe will also get an opportunity for doing project update presentation14:18
devkulkarnisimilar to what you did in Barcelona and Boston14:18
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zhurongthis time project update need vote14:19
devkulkarnioh really??14:19
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zhurongthis time project update also need vote14:19
devkulkarniso we need to submit two talks then - one for project update and another for our other talk14:19
devkulkarniI must have missed this change14:20
devkulkarnigood that you knew about it14:20
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zhurongonly have the * track do not need vote14:20
devkulkarniwhat is the * track?14:21
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zhuronglet me show you14:23
devkulkarnizhurong: ok14:23
zhurong* Note: these are not selected though the Call for Presentations process14:23
zhurong OPENSTACK UPSTREAM INSTITUTE *14:23
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zhurongWORKING GROUPS *  BIRDS OF A FEATHER *   OPEN SOURCE DAYS *14:24
zhurongFOUNDATION FUNDAMENTALS *14:24
zhuronghttps://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-categories/14:24
zhurongyou can check this14:24
devkulkarnilooking14:24
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devkulkarniok, you are right14:26
devkulkarnionly ones which will not be selected through the call for presentation are: working groups, birds of a feather, open source days, foundation fundamentals14:26
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zhurongyep14:27
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devkulkarniUnder the All Summit Track there are "Container & Cloud-Native Apps" and "Project Updates". I guess our two presentations will go under these then14:28
zhurongyep, I think so14:29
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devkulkarniok14:29
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devkulkarniso lets discuss about the talk submissions14:30
devkulkarnidid you get a chance to read the talk abstract for one of the talks?14:30
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zhurongyep, I just go through it14:31
devkulkarniwhat do you think? any thoughts/comments?14:32
zhurongI think it is good enough14:32
devkulkarnicool14:33
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devkulkarniwe will need some one from Zun and Magnum teams to work with us to discuss/present Zun and Magnum details14:33
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devkulkarnishould I reach out to Hong Bin or can you do that? I am fine either ways14:34
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zhurongyou can email to him, and he will join the openstack china day in beijing at 24-25 July14:36
devkulkarnioh cool14:36
devkulkarniare you going to that event as well?14:36
zhurongbut this is later than the CFP deadline14:37
zhurongyeah, I will go there14:37
devkulkarniyes, the deadline for Sydney is this week14:37
devkulkarniso we will need to connect with him or someone from Zun team soon14:38
devkulkarniI will initiate the email right after our meeting14:38
devkulkarniwill keep you in cc.14:38
zhurongthanks for doing this14:38
devkulkarnifor the Beijing event, it is good that you are going14:38
devkulkarniif you have opportunity, you can also present/demo Solum14:39
devkulkarniit will be good place to attract some interest (users and contributors)14:39
zhurongIf he is not free, my Colleague is the option, she is the zun core review too14:39
devkulkarnioh really?!!14:39
devkulkarnithat is really cool14:39
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devkulkarniin the email thread if he says he is not free then you can propose her name14:40
zhurongsure, that's the deal :D14:41
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devkulkarniok, lets do that14:41
devkulkarniSo we have a good action plan for this presentation14:42
devkulkarniFor the project update presentation, what all things should we include?14:42
devkulkarni- there is the docs update14:42
devkulkarnizun integration14:42
devkulkarnikeystone v3 support14:43
devkulkarnido you remember other items that we merged recently?14:43
zhurongthe abstract we can just use the Boston project update abstract14:44
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devkulkarniyes, I was also thinking that14:45
devkulkarnido you have that abstract handy? If so, can you add it to our etherpad?14:45
zhurongsure14:45
devkulkarnicool14:46
zhuronghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-sydney14:46
devkulkarniok good14:47
devkulkarniwe can improve it to include details such as zun integration, keystone v3 support, etc.14:48
zhurongI think so14:48
devkulkarniI can do that today14:48
zhurongthanks devkulkarni14:49
devkulkarniof course14:49
devkulkarniso we have good plan in place14:49
devkulkarniI will reach out to Hong Bin and also work on the project update abstract14:49
devkulkarniWe can try to submit presentations tomorrow or on Friday14:50
zhurongyep, that's the plan14:50
devkulkarnicool.. anything else we should discuss today?14:51
zhurongnothing from my side14:51
devkulkarnialright. we can end our meeting then. lets keep in close sync next couple of days till we submit our presentations14:52
zhurongok14:52
devkulkarnihave a good night zhurong14:52
devkulkarnisee you tomorrow14:52
zhuronghave a good day devkulkarni14:52
devkulkarnithanks!14:52
devkulkarni#endmeeting14:52
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amrith#startmeeting trove15:00
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amrithanyone here for the trove meeting?15:01
amrithhi trevormc15:01
amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting15:01
amrithwe have a quorum :)15:01
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trevormcha i guess so15:01
trevormcI always have to look up the words you use, like quorum.15:02
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amrithah, a dictionary helps :)15:02
amrithupdated agenda15:02
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amrithplease refresh15:02
amrithlets get started, I'm not expecting anyone else. smatzek said he would not be able to make it (maybe); manoj is out.15:03
amrithI don't have anything earthshaking to report.15:03
amrith#topic  Re-architect Trove Proposal15:03
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amrithI went through all the comments over the past three weeks and summarized them this morning.15:04
amrithI intend to have a session where everyone interested can join (in Denver) and we can review plans.15:04
amrithSo far, I've not seen many new names/faces on Trove.15:04
amrithI'll also post an etherpad with architecture discussion comments.15:05
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amrithanything else trevormc ... thoughts?15:05
amrithare you going to be in denver?15:05
trevormcamrith, that re-architecture proposal is like a small book haha. I didn't read all of it but I was glad to see the amount of feedback from the community15:05
trevormcI read your first email but all the other responses I didn't read all the way.15:06
trevormctalking about it in Denver would be a good idea but without any new faces it may be the same crowd as last time.15:06
trevormcperhaps the other members from tc will chime in.15:06
amrithwe can only hope :)15:07
amrithanyway, moving along ..15:07
amrith#topic gate failures15:07
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amriththe ones that were referenced in the old agenda, they are now fixed15:08
amriththe gate appears to be working (now)15:08
amrithI may have screwed up the upstream devstack gate but I think infra has that under control15:08
amrith#topic Open Discussion15:08
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trevormcnice, well done.15:08
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amrithtrevormc got anything else you want to chat about?15:08
trevormcthe doc-migration stuff has been started15:09
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:doc-migration+AND+(project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient)15:09
trevormcdoug and I duplicated some work but we are on the same page now.15:09
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trevormcthe steps for the migration process can be found here https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html15:11
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trevormci think we have them all done except for steps 8, 9, and 10 but they're not too much work.15:12
amrithyes, good deal15:12
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trevormccool, that's all from my side!15:13
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amrithnice progress on that15:14
amrithI saw the patches go by15:14
amrithanything that needs to be expedited for release in q?15:15
trevormcI think the docs team wants them all done by the release15:15
trevormcthat's the end of this month, right?15:15
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amrithyes, end of the month'ish15:17
amrithI'll look into them15:17
amrithanything else?15:18
amrithgoing once15:18
trevormcnothing15:18
amrithok, thanks for coming15:19
amrith#endmeeting15:19
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SukhdevFolks, time for ML2 meeting16:00
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Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_ml216:02
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:02
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_July_12.2C_201716:02
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:02
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Sukhdevrkukura is out today - will not be joining the meeting16:03
sadasuHello!16:03
Sukhdevsadasu : hi16:03
Sukhdevanybody has any announcement to make?16:03
SukhdevIs there an etherpad out for Denver PTG yet?16:04
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Sukhdevlooks like silence means NO16:05
Sukhdevmoving right along in that case16:06
sadasunot that I know of16:06
trevormcNO from me16:06
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SukhdevAnybody wants to add any item to the agenda?16:07
Sukhdevwe will keep it flexible and add as we move along...16:07
Sukhdev#topic: RFEs/Bugs16:08
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Sukhdevtrevormc : I saw your two patches and read the comments - looks like getting good reviews16:08
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trevormctwo? more like 4 now haha16:09
Sukhdevtrevormc : I have to admit - I only reviewed two :-)16:09
trevormcI'm trying to change the helpers file to only use OVO.16:10
trevormchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/367810/ merged and ruined my refactor16:10
trevormcso I had two options.. revert the type_vlan changes or make helpers OVO only.16:10
trevormcso now I have four patches. 1. db and ovo 2. helpers to ovo 3. refactor type_vlan 4. add qinq16:11
sadasutrevormc: yes, saw that. too bad that you were so close to merge and now have to refactor...again16:11
trevormc:(16:11
Sukhdevwelcome to world of open source dear :-):-)16:12
Sukhdevkidding aside, that seems like right things though16:12
Sukhdevtrevormc : do you mind adding the links to the agenda of this meeting?16:14
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Sukhdevor list them here, and I will add them to the agenda16:14
Sukhdevfor next week16:14
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trevormcjust  a sec16:14
trevormchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/482307/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446047/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458531/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483020/16:15
Sukhdevcool - thanks trevormc16:15
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482307/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446047/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458531/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483020/16:16
SukhdevI will review them later this week or over the weekend16:16
SukhdevAnything else we should cover here?16:16
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trevormcnothing from me.16:18
Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:18
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SukhdevI like shorter meetings :-)16:18
Sukhdevsadasu : anything from you?16:19
sadasunot from me either16:19
Sukhdevshall we call it a day?16:19
sadasuyes, more time for reviews :-)16:19
Sukhdevsounds good -16:19
Sukhdevthanks folks16:20
Sukhdevbye16:20
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:20
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sadasuthanks all!16:20
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:00
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timsim#topic Roll Call17:00
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mugsiehey17:00
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daidvo/17:01
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timsimskipping over some stuff17:02
timsim#topic Stable Backport Triage17:02
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timsimhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/615189/17:03
timsimAnything in there worth bp'ing?17:03
mugsiea989d0d Merge "Ensure TTL is not 0 for zone imports"17:03
mugsieabvout it17:03
mugsieI can take that17:03
timsimAlright, sweet. Sounds good17:04
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:04
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mugsieI am about 1/2 way through OVO testing17:04
trungnv_yep17:04
mugsiebut - I will have a list of thing that need to change17:04
daidvnice :D17:04
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timsimwoo17:05
daidvCan you let me and trungnv_ know that?17:05
* mugsie broke his devenv last week17:05
mugsieso still fixing that17:05
mugsieI will, as soon as I have a list, I will review it17:05
mugsieand add the comments17:05
trungnv_yep. thanks.17:05
daidvthanks17:05
mugsieno problem17:06
* timsim is looking at code reviews quickly17:07
timsimAnyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?17:08
daidvdoes we have any other topics?17:08
mugsiewe also need to think about how to fix up mdns - it does not use objects17:08
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trungnv_with OVO code-base?17:09
mugsieno, but for zero downtime it needs to deal with different DBS17:10
mugsieDB schema17:10
mugsieOVO would cause performance issues17:10
trungnv_yep. we also have a schedule to working on OSM after OVO well done.17:10
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timsimI need to turn my irc notifications off at night, 1am pings are not fun :P17:13
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mugsietimsim: :D17:14
mugsieat least your watch doesnt vibrate :P17:14
trungnv_timsim, sorry about that. We will look at time-zone before ping you.17:14
timsimNo worries.17:14
timsimI'll have to think about how mdns would work.17:14
timsimIt'd probably be fine because of how limited those queries are.17:14
mugsieyeah17:14
timsimBut if the db were unavailable for a time....eh it'd probably retry.17:15
mugsiemaybe ....17:15
* mugsie isnt actually sure17:15
trungnv_yep. I saw this issue when I upgrade and replace services to new version.17:16
daidvmugsie: you are talking about DBS17:16
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daidvBy the way, I want to ask about rolling upgrade in Designate?17:16
daidvBecause we just had a upgrade testing with Designate but.17:16
mugsiewell, mini dns would need to be fixed first17:17
daidvwe can have the diffrent version running in the same time.17:17
daidvbecause of RPC :(17:17
mugsiesure - rpc isnt an issue17:17
mugsiethat works now, and worked on older versions17:18
mugsierpc will just put the message back on the queue if it cannot deal with the verison17:18
daidvmugsie: I don't see any thing like pin RPC version in Designate upgrade, right?17:18
mugsie?17:19
daidvso it is the reason17:19
daidvthat we must turn off all of Designate service during upgrade?17:19
mugsiewe shouldnt need to pin anything?17:19
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mugsiewhat are you trying to pin?17:19
mugsieolso.messaging?17:19
daidvRPC version.17:19
daidvyep,17:20
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mugsiethats not needed17:20
daidvHumm.17:20
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trungnv_I saw worker call mdns to retry create/del when upgrade and replace pool-manager and zone-manager to worker and producer.17:20
mugsiewell, with pool-manager -> producer, that was different APIs17:21
trungnv_if keep services in new version then this issue don't occurred.17:21
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mugsiebut normal upgrades are fine17:22
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trungnv_Should we fix mdns issue in this case. right?17:22
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mugsieno, not this case17:23
mugsiewe need to fix the mini dns and DB17:23
daidvmugsie: normal upgrade with something like canary can't work.17:23
daidvwe have used NGINX for HA two Designate node.17:24
daidvand when we upgraded the first one17:24
daidvwe will get the error about RPC in logging17:25
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mugsieI would need to see logs17:25
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trungnv_mugsie, we will make video and log and send you in next meeting.17:26
mugsieOK17:26
timsimAlright, anything else to discuss?17:27
trungnv_that all for me. thanks17:27
daidvNo thanks.17:27
timsimAlright, see you in #openstack-dns17:28
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daidv_see u17:28
timsim#endmeeting17:28
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