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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul  5 13:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'13:00
alexchadinhi!13:00
adisky__hi13:00
Yumeng__Hi13:01
lakerzhouHi13:01
alexchadin#topic Announcements13:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)"13:01
alexchadinYumeng Bao is now in core team. Congratulations!13:01
adisky__congrats Yumeng__  :)13:02
alexchadinYumeng__: welcome aboard! :)13:02
lakerzhoucongratulation, Yumeng13:02
alexchadinI will give all permissions a little bit later13:03
Yumeng__Thank you all watcher folks! I'm happy to be working with you guys! And I will contribute more!13:03
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alexchadinWatcher docs are migrating to the new standards13:04
alexchadin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking13:04
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alexchadinAs you may notify, we have some work on it with doc-migration topic13:04
hidekazuhi13:04
alexchadinso please, if you faced with one of them, review it, they aren't big13:05
alexchadinhi hidekazu13:05
alexchadinhave someone submitted any presentations for Sydney Summit?13:06
hidekazui and customer will13:07
Yumeng__Not yet. I Will submit one about volume workload balance. Maybe more13:07
alexchadinhidekazu: will it be related to the watcher?13:07
alexchadinYumeng__, hidekazu please do it before 14th July13:08
Yumeng__Ok13:08
hidekazualexchadin: yes zone migration again13:08
alexchadinhidekazu: have a good luck ;)13:08
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vincentfrancoiseo/13:09
alexchadinI will start to fill up agenda for ptg soon13:09
hidekazualexchadin: thanks i hope13:09
vincentfrancoisesorry for being late13:09
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: hi13:09
hidekazuvincentfrancoise: hi13:09
alexchadinany other announcements?13:10
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alexchadinwell, move on13:11
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items13:12
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alexchadinWatcher specs13:12
alexchadinAdd Volume migrate action spec needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468817/13:12
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alexchadinlakerzhou: could you please review it?13:13
alexchadinwho wants to review it?13:15
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: I just added my +2 :)13:15
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lakerzhouAlexchadin, sure, I will review it13:15
vincentfrancoisehidekazu: I liked the decision tree, made the whole thing easy to read and understand13:16
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: great!13:16
alexchadinlakerzhou: thank you13:16
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hidekazuvincentfrancoise: that is Yumengs idea13:17
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alexchadin#action lakerzhou review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468817/13:17
vincentfrancoiseYumeng__: ^ nice one13:17
Yumeng__vincentfrancoise: ^_^13:18
alexchadinSpecs for Saving Energy Strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47641613:19
alexchadinYumeng__: have you seen licanwei's comments?13:19
Yumeng__alexchadin: yes! will update tomorrow.13:19
Yumeng__A bit busy recent days.:)13:20
alexchadinYumeng__: thanks13:20
alexchadinupdate action description needs to be updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/13:20
alexchadinlicanwei knows about it13:21
alexchadinadd name for audit needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474865/13:21
alexchadinsuzhengwei: call licanwei to remember him about your talks13:22
suzhengweibaoyumeng:call you give him a remind?13:22
Yumeng__ suzhengwei : ok. Will let him know. He is travelling for business until next Monday.13:23
suzhengweibaoyumeng:can you give him a remind?13:23
Yumeng__suzhengwei: no pb13:23
suzhengweithx13:23
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alexchadinsilent timeperiods to audit, spec should be abandoned #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478440/13:23
Yumeng__You're welcome13:23
alexchadinsuzhengwei, Yumeng__ thanks13:23
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: ^ I'm still consider that this problem will be resolved with cron patch13:24
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alexchadinSupport visualizing workload fingerprints needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448394/13:26
suzhengwei<alexchadin>to the users, he will have to update the audit every day.if a silent period in the day.13:26
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: please write in comments pros and cons of your proposition13:28
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alexchadinsballe_: are you here?13:28
alexchadinsballe_ wanted to review this spec13:29
alexchadinextend-node-status needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/13:30
suzhengweiI notice that, in some strategy, it uses diffrent methods to caculate the workload of compute nodes.Can we unit the methods to a same one?13:30
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: to use?13:31
alexchadinwho wants to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/ ?13:32
vincentfrancoisesuzhengwei: If you can factorize it without breaking the tests I wouldn't mind13:32
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: put me on it13:34
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: yeap13:35
alexchadin#action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/13:35
alexchadin[WIP] Spec for multi-datasource support #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46710213:35
suzhengweiI will review Specs for Saving Energy Strategy.13:36
alexchadinsuzhengwei: thanks!13:36
Yumeng__suzhengwei: thanks!13:36
alexchadin#action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47641613:36
alexchadinlakerzhou: what is the status of it?13:36
lakerzhouFor multi-data-source I am working on a draft and should be able to send it for review by the end of tomorrow13:36
vincentfrancoiselakerzhou: great!13:37
alexchadinlakerzhou: thank you!13:38
alexchadinMove on to watcher13:38
alexchadinWatcher13:38
alexchadinNew cron type for audit interval needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471379/13:38
Yumeng__Please Put me on it.13:39
lakerzhouVincentFrancoise, I understand that it maybe a bit different than what you had in mind. But please provide comments, then we will work it out with reviews.13:39
hidekazuI will try in next week13:40
alexchadinYumeng__, hidekazu thanks13:40
alexchadin#action Yumeng__, hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471379/13:40
alexchadinAdd action description notification needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/13:41
alexchadinlicanwei already knows about it13:41
alexchadinAdapt watcher documentation for new standards needs to be reviewed and merged ASAP #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479841/13:41
vincentfrancoiselakerzhou: yeah don't worry, what I wrote was purely a suggestion13:41
alexchadinwe strongly need to merge it before Pike-3 release13:41
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vincentfrancoisealexchadin: just needs W+1 now13:42
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: it would be good if someone else of our team would review it13:43
Yumeng__+113:43
Yumeng__I would like to review13:44
hidekazualexchadin: did you set topic name doc-migration?13:44
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: agreed, also since it's only a folder structure change, it doesn't take long to review anyway13:44
alexchadinhidekazu: +113:44
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alexchadinvincentfrancoise: +113:44
alexchadin#action Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479841/13:45
alexchadinAbort operation for live migration needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474568/13:46
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alexchadinadisky__: have you seen hidekazu's comments?13:46
adisky__alexchadin: yes, i will upload new ps, soon13:46
alexchadin#action adisky__ submit new PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474568/13:47
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alexchadinname for audit bunch of patch sets should be reviewed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/add-name-for-audit13:48
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alexchadinextend-node-status needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464557/13:50
alexchadinwho would like to review it?13:50
alexchadinthen let's review it after spec is merged13:52
alexchadinWatcher CLI & Dashboard13:52
suzhengwei licanwei and baoyumeng, would you like review it?13:52
alexchadinsuzhengwei: licanwei isn't here13:52
suzhengweiit would help the spec saving energy13:52
Yumeng__suzhengwei: ok. I will review13:52
suzhengweithx13:53
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alexchadin#action Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464557/13:54
alexchadinsuzhengwei, Yumeng__ thanks!13:54
alexchadinswitch to openstackdocstheme needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477512/13:54
alexchadinplease review it ASAP13:54
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: done13:54
alexchadinvincentfrancoise: nice :)13:54
alexchadinAdd post_test_hook needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480462/13:55
alexchadinI remembered that I wanted to submit functional job for CLI13:55
alexchadinso it is :)13:56
alexchadindoc migration bunch of patches needs to be reviewed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-watcherclient+branch:master+topic:doc-migration13:57
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alexchadinI will review it13:57
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alexchadin#action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-watcherclient+branch:master+topic:doc-migration13:58
alexchadinwell, that's all for today13:58
vincentfrancoisebye everyone :)13:59
lakerzhouBye13:59
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Yumeng__bye guys13:59
alexchadinthank you for coming13:59
alexchadinbye13:59
suzhengweibye13:59
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hidekazubye13:59
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adisky__bye13:59
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alexchadin#stopmeeting13:59
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alexchadin#endmeeting14:00
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rkukurahi ML2’ers!16:01
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tbachmanrkukura: hi!16:03
rkukuratrevormc, sadasu: Here for ML2 today?16:03
rkukuratbachman: hi16:03
trevormco/16:03
yamamoto_hi16:03
rkukurahi trevormc, yamamoto_!16:03
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sadasurkukura: Yes16:03
rkukurahi sadasu16:03
rkukurano sign of Sukhdev16:04
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rkukura#startmeeting networking_ml216:05
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul  5 16:05:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'16:05
rkukurahi tbachman, trevormc, yamamoto_, sadasu16:05
rkukuraanyone else here for the Ml2 meeting?16:05
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tbachmanrkukura: hi :)16:05
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rkukura#topic Agenda16:06
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rkukura#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_July_5.2C_201716:06
rkukurahi Sukhdev!16:06
rkukurajust getting started16:06
rkukuranothing specific on today’s agenda - is there anything anyone wants to be sure to cover?16:07
SukhdevHi16:07
tbachmanrkukura: I have a generic port-binding question, if no one has anything else16:07
SukhdevSorry for being late16:07
rkukuratbachman: lets cover that under Open Discussion16:07
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rkukura#topic Announcements16:08
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rkukuraOnly announcmement I have is that I will most likely miss next week’s IRC meeting16:08
rkukuraAny other announcements?16:08
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SukhdevI shall cover next week16:09
rkukura#topic RFEs/Bugs16:09
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rkukuraSukhdev: thanks16:09
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rkukuratrevormc: Any update on your SR-IOV related work?16:09
trevormcI did push up an interface to iplex16:10
trevormcbut it still needs some work16:10
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476547/16:10
trevormcIt also needs to run on third party ci ! :)16:10
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trevormcJust a minor update, working on it more this week.16:11
trevormcI have another update on the QinQ refactor patch too. Just a little speed bump.16:12
rkukuratrevormc: thanks!16:12
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rkukuraanything else on these?16:12
trevormcnothing on SR-IOV but one for QinQ16:13
rkukuratrevormc: go ahead16:13
trevormcThe OVO integration for type_vlan merged see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367810/ this required me to move the logic to helpers.py , not sure if this was the correct approach but you can see it here16:13
trevormc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458531/16:13
trevormcmight need to tag the author of the integration patch as a reviewer..16:14
trevormcI updated the commit msg and made inline comments about it.16:14
trevormcthats all the updates from me, thanks rkukura16:15
rkukurathanks trevormc!16:16
rkukuraany other questions on these?16:16
rkukuraany other bugs/RFEs to discuss?16:16
rkukuraguess not…16:17
rkukura#topic Open Discussion16:17
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rkukuratbachman: go ahead16:17
tbachmanI have more of a “best practices” question16:18
tbachmanfor port binding16:18
tbachmanI’m looking into handling port binding for hetergenous port types16:18
tbachmanit seems like one of the idioms is to depend on agents running on the host that the port is being bound to16:19
tbachmanI was curious if there was ever any thought into introspection of nova in order to discern this information, rather than rely on a given agent16:19
rkukurawhen there is an agent involved, port binding needs to ensure the agent is there and can provide the connectivity16:19
tbachmanand also wasn’t sure how multiple agents on the same host worked16:19
tbachman(e.g. can a single host support multiple port bindings)16:20
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sadasutbachman: not all ML2 mech drivers rely on agents16:20
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tbachmansadasu: good point. What mechanism is used then to determine whether or not they should bind?16:20
tbachman(if this can be generalized)16:21
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rkukuraI think supporting SR-IOV and normal OVS on the same host is possible16:21
sadasutbachman: yes, single host can bind multiple types of ports16:21
tbachmanI guess my question is: is it a bad idea to introspect nova to get information for port binding?16:22
tbachmanI can see an argument against it16:22
rkukuraAny mechanism driver needs some way to determine whether or not it can bind for a particular host, but its up to the driver to use whatever info makes most sense - the agents_db is just one option16:22
tbachmanfor example, since nova is already calling into neutron to do port binding16:22
sadasuas far as I know, only Cisco SR-IOV ports don't need an agent to complete binding16:22
tbachmansadasu: thanks for that input — will have a look!16:23
rkukuratbachman: what info from nova do you think might be useful for this?16:23
sadasutbachman: introspecting nova and not using an agent is fine16:23
tbachmanrkukura: I guess in this case, hypervisor type16:23
tbachmane.g. ESX16:23
tbachmanKVM16:23
sadasuas long as you have all the information you are looking for, from Nova16:23
tbachmansadasu: I also need to figure out if I can get that info (so good point ;-) )16:24
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SukhdevHypervisor type is available16:24
tbachmananyway, I don’t want to dominate the Open Discussion section with this — just wanted to find out if there are other examples. It sounds like there are.16:24
sadasuSukhdev: +1. yes hypervisor type is available from nova16:25
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tbachmanand if folks thought it was a bad idea for neutron to call back into nova during nova’s call to neutron for port-binding16:25
rkukuraPort binding happens outside any transaction, so having an MD’s bind_port make REST calls on nova is reaonable, I think16:25
tbachmanrkukura: thx!16:25
rkukuratbachman: anything else on this?16:26
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tbachmanrkukura: not now. Thanks all for the input!16:26
rkukuraanything else to discuss today before we wrap up?16:26
sadasuor could you use port binding extension to get this information from nova during the 1st bind_port call instead of another RSP API request/response?16:26
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tbachmansadasu: that would be great. I’m not sure it would be easy to get that into nova, however :(16:27
sadasutbachman: Agreed. Just giving you options.16:28
SukhdevI have seen deployment where they pass this information via config16:29
tbachmanSukhdev: yeah — I prefer dynamic stuff (i.e. no restart of services needed for changes). Thanks for pointing that out, tho!16:29
tbachmansadasu: yeah — thx!16:29
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tbachmanrkukura: thanks for the floor16:30
tbachman:)16:30
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rkukurathanks tbachman!16:30
rkukuraany other topics for discussion, or are we done for today?16:31
SukhdevWe are good16:31
rkukuraok, last call…16:31
sadasuPTG attendees? Sukhdev is a No, rkukura is a maybe16:31
trevormcnot from me. thanks16:31
trevormcMaybe from me.16:31
rkukurasadasu: still a maybe16:31
rkukurasadasu: are you going?16:32
yamamoto_i'm a maybe16:32
sadasuI am maybe too!16:32
Sukhdev:-)16:33
rkukuraok, lets wrap up for today16:33
rkukurathanks everyone!16:33
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trevormco/16:33
rkukura#endmeeting16:33
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tbachmanrkukura: thx!16:33
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tbachman rkukura: bye!16:33
sadasubye!16:33
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SukhdevThanks rkukura16:33
rkukurabye16:33
SukhdevBye16:33
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