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| aspiers | hi, anyone around for the HA meeting? | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | I think we need to offer an American-friendly time; please see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116703.html | 09:03 |
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| uli-k | Hi, I saw the meeting announced only recently. | 09:18 |
| uli-k | Happy to join. Agree we need a timeslot more friendly for America | 09:19 |
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| aspiers | uli-k: welcome :) I guess everyone is still recovering from the summit this week :) | 09:54 |
| aspiers | uli-k: feel free to join #openstack-ha in the meantime | 09:55 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello | 16:00 |
| rkukura | dasanind, trevormc: Here for ML2 today? | 16:01 |
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| trevormc | hi rkukura, Sukhdev | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Hi trevormc | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Anyone else? | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | looks like its only three of us | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | Is that quorum? | 16:03 |
| rkukura | sadasu: Are you here for ML2 today? | 16:03 |
| sadasu | yes I am | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | three is company or three is crowd ? | 16:04 |
| sadasu | rkukura: were you at the open stack summit last week? | 16:04 |
| rkukura | lets do it | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu : hey stranger - | 16:04 |
| rkukura | sadasu: Only for a few hours | 16:04 |
| rkukura | too busy | 16:04 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: I did see you at the summit, but you were in some deep conversations :-) | 16:05 |
| trevormc | rkukura, I saw you at a fishbowl but man were you busy lol | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu : I saw you, waved at you, you ignored me, I was heart broken and moved on :-):-) | 16:05 |
| sadasu | now there are 4 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | ok, lets start... | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 16:05:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev: that must have been right after I gave up trying to wave to you :-) | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:06 |
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| sadasu | now we are even! | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu :-) | 16:06 |
| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_17.2C_2017 | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | So I changed the agenda a bit for today | 16:07 |
| rkukura | Anyone want to add anything specific? | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:07 |
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| trevormc | 'ML2 meeting format/usefulness/goals etc.' probably fits my topic | 16:07 |
| rkukura | trevormc: OK, we’ll get to that in a bit | 16:08 |
| rkukura | I don’t have any Announcements - does anyone else? | 16:08 |
| trevormc | or maybe it fits better here. | 16:08 |
| trevormc | i just wanted to say I'm breaking up my RFE for the sr-iov port extension | 16:09 |
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| trevormc | I plan to do 5, there are two available now. | 16:09 |
| trevormc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690921 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690921 in neutron "[RFE] Manage Broadcast, Unicast, and Multicast traffic" [Undecided,New] | 16:09 |
| trevormc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690937 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690937 in neutron "[RFE] Support allowed address pairs without ip address" [Undecided,New] | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | trevormc : excellent idea | 16:09 |
| trevormc | Those two were simple, the next three are more complicated. | 16:09 |
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| trevormc | 3. VLAN filtering is a technique for preventing communication between hostX and hostY but why do we need this at the port level and not just the network level? QinQ is VLAN based so I think it should work inherently. | 16:10 |
| trevormc | - this was just a question i had addressing the third RFE for VLAN Filtering. | 16:10 |
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| trevormc | 4. Tap-as-a-service – All I know is that it’s a service for mirroring remote ports. Munish said to make it work with direct ports. Can we explain why we would want that from our customer’s perspective? | 16:10 |
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| trevormc | - this is the mirror from the RFE | 16:10 |
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| trevormc | 5. Only push or only pop VLAN tags – This has something to do with the QinQ networks, can we elaborate the usefulness of only pushing or only popping? | 16:11 |
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| trevormc | - currently neutron support both push/pop or neither and not individually | 16:11 |
| trevormc | that's all my announcements, expect to see more updates on 3,4 and 5 next week | 16:12 |
| rkukura | trevormc: thanks! | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | trevormc : you have a busy agenda - | 16:13 |
| trevormc | yes please help | 16:13 |
| trevormc | :) | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | trevormc : shall we cover one at a time ? | 16:13 |
| trevormc | - not asking for it, just would be nice. thats all | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | fine with me | 16:13 |
| trevormc | Yeah if you have any answers for 3,4, and 5 that would be appreciated and I can incorporate that into the RFE | 16:14 |
| trevormc | I have a call next week to discuss these in detail with the research team at AT&T | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : why don't you go through the agenda and when you feel is the time, we can start discussing these | 16:14 |
| rkukura | OK | 16:15 |
| trevormc | sounds good | 16:15 |
| rkukura | #topic Sumit recap | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | So I was only at the summit for a couple hours | 16:15 |
| rkukura | How was it? | 16:15 |
| rkukura | Was hoping to at least get to the Fenway party | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | I was presenter in two presentation, moderator in one session, and panelist in one panel discussion - so, very busy :-) | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | sounds like it | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : you did not miss much at fenway - it was underwhelming | 16:17 |
| sadasu | I felt that the rumors about decline in open stack relevance are false | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: that’s good to here | 16:17 |
| sadasu | rkukura: I agree with Sukhdev's version of fenway party | 16:17 |
| rkukura | hear | 16:17 |
| rkukura | Fenway probably would have been more fine in nice spring weather | 16:18 |
| rkukura | s/fine/fun/ | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu : please elaborate | 16:18 |
| rkukura | can’t type today | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura is hungry :-) | 16:18 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev: the underwhelming part..I spent a lot of time standing in line outside :( | 16:19 |
| trevormc | I went to fenway when the line died down, they ran out of food and drink tickets but I was able to find plenty on the ground or from kind stackers | 16:19 |
| trevormc | ~ 1 hour after it started | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu : i meant the openstack relevence part | 16:19 |
| rkukura | sadasu: Were these “rumors” at the summit itself, or just in general? | 16:19 |
| rkukura | trevormc: sounds like it was well-attended then | 16:20 |
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| sadasu | In general, especially after all the news about several companies reducing their open stack developer foot print | 16:20 |
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| sadasu | no rumors within the summit | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | I heard Cisco has also pulled out or reduced - is it true sadasu, rkukura ? | 16:21 |
| rkukura | sounds to me like its evolving, but not really declining | 16:21 |
| sadasu | but, definitely a lot of attention on open stack working in tandem with kubernetes | 16:21 |
| trevormc | sadsu: I think that's it, the work intersects. | 16:21 |
| sadasu | rkukura: I agree | 16:21 |
| trevormc | sadsu: not so much pulling away from openstack, just spreading the workload | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | I see kubernetes as an infrastructure to run openstack on - which means it is not going away | 16:22 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: not pulled out, changing focus to other open stack related solutions | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | openstack is perceived to be pain to deploy - kubernetese makes it easy to deploy | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | openshift was in limelight as well | 16:24 |
| sadasu | open stack will still be used to abstract cloud HW for other cloud orchestration solutions to use | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu +1 | 16:24 |
| rkukura | So anything neutron-specific from the summit to discuss? How were the forum sessions? | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | I moderated on - two take aways from that session ( I will post it on ML later today) | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | 1) IP address allocation needs attention - for default configurations (can be simplified) | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | 2) documentation can be improved - especially for default configurations | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-neutron-making-it-easy | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Thanks Sukhdev! | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | That’s the one session I attended, I think | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Any useful design/planning discussions for pike and beyond? | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Or are those sessions only at PTGs now? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | I think that is PTG agenda | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | OK | 16:32 |
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| rkukura | Anything else to share on the summit before we move on? | 16:32 |
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| trevormc | there is a talk on diagnostic tools, i thought was cool but didnt understand | 16:33 |
| trevormc | armando posted something on the ML about it this week | 16:33 |
| rkukura | trevormc: Saw that | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | I had a quick chat with kevinbenton about my extension semantics enforcement RFE - its on hold until either I have time to implement it, or someone else volunteers | 16:35 |
| rkukura | ok, lets move on… | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | #topic ML2 meeting format/usefulness/goals etc. | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | So post-summit seemed like a good time to revisit what we do at these ML2 meetings | 16:36 |
| sadasu | seems to me that several features are currently under development, so why this question about usefulness? | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | There are only a few of us that attend and participate on a regular basis | 16:37 |
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| sadasu | rkukura: I think that is the new reality in open stack :-) | 16:38 |
| rkukura | One thing we do is discuss status of ongoing ML2-related efforts, such as trevormc’s | 16:38 |
| sadasu | smaller teams in general everywhere, what do other's think? | 16:38 |
| sadasu | rkukura: +1 | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I find those status/issue discussions useful, but want to make sure others do | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I’d find them more useful if I was more engaged in the actual development and code reviews than I have been lately | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | right | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | I meant to say “even more useful”, I do find them useful | 16:40 |
| trevormc | are there any suggestions to get others involved? | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | I could bring it up in the neutron core meeting next time - | 16:42 |
| rkukura | trevormc: looking for those | 16:42 |
| trevormc | There are conflicting groups too, like the sr-iov team meetings. | 16:43 |
| rkukura | I’d like to figure out how this meeting should relate to the core meeting, and others as well | 16:43 |
| trevormc | I didn't really hear about the ML2 meeting until I stumbled upon it, maybe we should do a better job advertising? | 16:43 |
| rkukura | One focus here would be actual evolution of the ML2 driver APIs, but there isn’t much of that going on at the moment | 16:43 |
| trevormc | yet *cough | 16:43 |
| trevormc | I'm hoping we can get some ml2 development with adoption of gluon | 16:44 |
| trevormc | that would be an evolution because we would like to adopt Sukhdev's RFE for making the neutron network port-binding optional. | 16:45 |
| rkukura | trevormc: I’m not really clear if gluon is seen as something driving evolution of ML2, co-existing with ML2, or replacing ML2 | 16:45 |
| trevormc | rkukura: we were thinking of making it a core plugin | 16:46 |
| trevormc | then seperating out the service-plugin-generator part. This will allow for multiple SDN controllers. | 16:46 |
| trevormc | not sure how much evolution at the ML2 there may be but there might be some. | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | trevormc : did you watch my presentation on gluon and attended the panel discussion on Gluon ? | 16:47 |
| trevormc | Sukhdev, I couldn't find it. What's it called? | 16:47 |
| trevormc | probably something with gluon in the title.. :) | 16:47 |
| * trevormc searches | 16:48 | |
| rkukura | were these last week? | 16:48 |
| rkukura | I’d definitely like to check them out | 16:48 |
| trevormc | nothing with gluon in the title | 16:48 |
| trevormc | for this forum anyway | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : yes | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | trevormc : both were on Thursday - | 16:49 |
| * trevormc checks summit schedule | 16:50 | |
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| trevormc | https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18826/gluon-project-within-openstack | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | right that - was panel discussion | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | the presentation was the first session on Thursday AM | 16:51 |
| yamamoto_ | this? https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/a-novel-service-modeling-framework-for-nfv-networking | 16:51 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: will take a look | 16:52 |
| trevormc | https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17693/a-novel-service-modeling-framework-for-nfv-networking | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : yes, thanks | 16:52 |
| trevormc | great, ill watch these on youtube if the video is available | 16:52 |
| rkukura | thanks, I will too | 16:52 |
| rkukura | so regarding the development efforts, such as trevormc’s, and the ML2 meetings | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | So, one thing I did not announce (I should have when rkukura asked) I just kicked off networking-opencontrail | 16:53 |
| trevormc | \o/ | 16:53 |
| trevormc | very cool | 16:53 |
| rkukura | Do we want to continue with these explicitly on each week’s agenda, or just have a section where people update status and raise questions/issues on ongoing development? | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | networking-opencontrail will be similar to networking-odl/ovn/etc... to open source opencontrail | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | this will require very intense ML2 discussions - we can use this meeting for those or I was thinking about creating a new channel and meeting for that | 16:54 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I think that would be appropriate to discuss here | 16:55 |
| rkukura | Since it would likely impact other ML2 drivers as well | 16:55 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: rkukura: +1 for here | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : that will be right in the middle, center, and, everywhere in ML2 | 16:55 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Is networking-opencontrail a git repo and/or a big-tent project or neutron stadium project? | 16:56 |
| trevormc | we can start here, if it consumes too much and not giving others time to talk, then we should move it to its own channel. | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | trevormc : +1 | 16:56 |
| rkukura | we are about out of time | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : a new repo has been created, but is empty for now - I created it a week before summit | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : the goal is that it will be part of neutron stadium - when fully done | 16:57 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: OK, lets cover this in a bit more detail next week | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : sure | 16:57 |
| rkukura | Anything else on the ML2 meeting format, etc.? | 16:57 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:58 |
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| yamamoto_ | i want to announce one thing: i have a plan to do something dirty on ml2 tables https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464936/ | 16:58 |
| yamamoto_ | ie. make midonet MD migrate some data from tables for midonet monolithic plugin to ml2 | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : why is it dirty? :-) | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : oh I see - that is dirty - | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : you should not do it - why, what is the purpose | 17:00 |
| yamamoto_ | so i will be unhappy if ml2 schema changes come immediately before the next release. :-) | 17:00 |
| rkukura | yamamoto_: Is this to ML2’s own tables, or to a midonet MD’s private tables? | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : when you are running monolithic plugin, why bother pushing things up? | 17:00 |
| yamamoto_ | ml2's own tables. port binding etc | 17:00 |
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| rkukura | Is the goal for midonet to become an ML2 MD instead of a monolithic plugin? | 17:01 |
| yamamoto_ | we want to remove the monolithic plugin. it's a part of a migration path for the users of the monolithic plugin. | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ rkukura : we are past time - we should discuss this | 17:02 |
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| yamamoto_ | rkukura: exactly. we already have ML2 MD. | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | next week | 17:02 |
| rkukura | yamamoto_: lets continue this next week | 17:02 |
| yamamoto_ | sure | 17:02 |
| rkukura | ok, time is up | 17:02 |
| rkukura | thanks everyone! | 17:02 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you | 17:02 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 17:02:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-17-16.05.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-17-16.05.txt | 17:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-17-16.05.log.html | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : I have same issue with opencontrail migrating from monolithic plugin to ML2 | 17:02 |
| rkukura | bye | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : we should discuss this next week - I have some ideas and would like to hear yours as ell | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | well | 17:03 |
| yamamoto_ | Sukhdev: sure | 17:03 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto_ : I will add this to next week's agenda - make sure to attend the meeting - this will be a good discussion | 17:03 |
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| timsim | Hey, designate meeting cancelled. If you need to talk about anything head on over to #openstack-dns | 17:07 |
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| johnma | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 18:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnma. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| trevormc | o/ | 18:00 |
| songjian | o/ | 18:01 |
| johnma | hello trevormc, songjian | 18:01 |
| trevormc | is anyone else here for the trove meeting? | 18:01 |
| johnma | I need to remind the IBM folks about this meeting time. I am not sure they know | 18:03 |
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| johnma | will give it another minute and we can get started. We can atleast go through the agenda quickly and add notes to it at the end of the meeting so that we have something to loop back to next week | 18:04 |
| trevormc | smaztek mention he had conflicts | 18:04 |
| johnma | right, we will update the agenda with any action items so that folks who are not on this call can take a look | 18:04 |
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| johnma | ok , so let's get started then | 18:04 |
| johnma | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:04 |
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| johnma | The first one is regarding coming up with a new time for Trove meeting. Unfortunately with just the 3 of us we can't come to a decision. | 18:05 |
| johnma | songjian, since you were not there in Boston last week, will update you on this one. There are a number of new contributors who would like to contribute to Trove and they are in different timezones - Paris, Germany, UK, China, US | 18:06 |
| songjian | thanks | 18:07 |
| johnma | so there was a proposal to come up with a different time for the Trove meeting | 18:07 |
| songjian | this really a nice topic | 18:07 |
| johnma | do you have any preferences | 18:07 |
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| johnma | is wednesday still a good day? | 18:08 |
| johnma | whatabout you trevormc. Not sure if we came up with any date/time last week? | 18:08 |
| kumarmn | yes | 18:08 |
| trevormc | johnma, im flexible | 18:08 |
| kumarmn | We came up with Wednesday | 18:09 |
| trevormc | so pretty much anytime that fits in the CT work week | 18:09 |
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| johnma | Hi kumarmn | 18:09 |
| trevormc | wednesday 9am I think was the agreement from the meeting, I can watch the video lol | 18:09 |
| johnma | yeah, same with me. Wednesday works for me as well, anytime | 18:09 |
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| songjian | Look at the time of other contributors to balance it. Beijing here is now 2 o'clock. If I can be 2 hours ahead of time would be better. But still want to balance the time of other people | 18:10 |
| johnma | ok, lets put that time under that agenda time and we can confirm with Amrith | 18:10 |
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| kumarmn | @songjian: Our proposal was 4 hours earlier | 18:11 |
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| trevormc | 10am central was the decided time | 18:11 |
| trevormc | 23:50 in https://youtu.be/g8tKXn_Axhs?t=23m50s | 18:12 |
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| johnma | very nice trevormc. Thanks for digging that :) | 18:12 |
| kumarmn | ok, so three hours earlier | 18:13 |
| johnma | hope that time is ok with songjian | 18:14 |
| songjian | Three hours ahead of time, no better than this | 18:14 |
| trevormc | We can shoot for something later instead | 18:14 |
| johnma | so 10am CT is about 11pm in China I believe, not sure if I got the math right | 18:16 |
| johnma | so songjian can you update the wiki and add your preferences there | 18:16 |
| trevormc | looks like the UK and china are opposities | 18:16 |
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| johnma | and we can try to resolve it over there | 18:17 |
| trevormc | 1100-1200 UTC looks like the best time to meet | 18:17 |
| johnma | I would like to move on the next agenda item | 18:17 |
| trevormc | which is 6am-7am central lol | 18:17 |
| johnma | that would be what time central? | 18:17 |
| songjian | ok,I'll update it | 18:17 |
| trevormc | ok, how about this, we alternate team meetings | 18:18 |
| johnma | that's quite early for us and even earlier for those in eastern timezone | 18:18 |
| trevormc | beijing, paris, china only have 11-1300 UTC where someon is not sleeping | 18:18 |
| trevormc | so besides that, we need to alternate. | 18:19 |
| trevormc | paris and beijing can meet without the US during UTC 700-1200 | 18:20 |
| johnma | I am just wondering how many people actually plan on attending these meetings. I dont mind 6-7am as long as folks from these different timezones attend these meetings | 18:20 |
| trevormc | then 1500-1800 UTC for the other times... I like using this website https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ | 18:21 |
| trevormc | johnma, yeah I agree. | 18:21 |
| johnma | anyways lets add these comments in the agenda. trevormc,can you update the wiki with these suggestions | 18:21 |
| trevormc | yes I will. | 18:21 |
| johnma | thanks trevormc | 18:21 |
| johnma | moving on to the next topic in the agenda | 18:21 |
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| johnma | 2) Trove reboot - This was about providing a new/renewed focus to Trove project and improving code contributions/ reviews, going through features to work on for this release, addressing technical debt, etc | 18:23 |
| trevormc | excellent topic! I was thinking about starting with the installation documentation, for those who can't install the service. We have bugs filed at the moment and it kind of feels like a silo of knowledge on how trovestack runs | 18:25 |
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| johnma | so we discussed during last week's summit at Boston that it would be nice to have some sort of the virtual meetup where all of us planning to contribute to the project this release could get together and hash out the list of things we wanted to work on | 18:25 |
| trevormc | - oh right, lets focus on the meeting time again. sorry | 18:25 |
| trevormc | does anyone have thoughts on the virtual meetings? | 18:26 |
| trevormc | s/meetings/meeting | 18:26 |
| johnma | trevormc: I agree with you . I think this is the best chance for us to update our docs if we really want to call it a reboot. | 18:26 |
| trevormc | - thanks a little off topic but I have a patch im trying to push up lol, facing some auth issues atm | 18:27 |
| trevormc | I think we will have the same problem about the trove reboot as we will with the weekly meetings. Given this is a one time thing, I think we can wake up early for this. | 18:27 |
| trevormc | UTC 1200? | 18:28 |
| trevormc | and amrith said we should schedule the meeting for this week or next. | 18:29 |
| johnma | again I think we need to come up with a date and time that works for those wishing to contribute. So as a starting point, let us put some dates in there that works for us. I think there is a tool - like a survey tool which we can use to get the time and dates. Amrith should know more about this. We have used it before | 18:29 |
| johnma | right | 18:29 |
| johnma | I will send a note to amrith about this and we can send out a mail to the mailing list | 18:29 |
| trevormc | http://doodle.com/ works nicely | 18:30 |
| johnma | #action johnma to talk to amrith about scheduling a day/time for Trove reboot | 18:30 |
| johnma | yes that's what I believe we used last time | 18:30 |
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| johnma | great, thanks trevormc. Will add that to the agenda as well. We need to schedule a time slot for this week/next | 18:31 |
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| trevormc | does this work? https://doodle.com/poll/s36ywdz5mfwqkdvu | 18:32 |
| trevormc | ahh i gotta add times somehow lol | 18:32 |
| johnma | worked for me. You should see my updates. | 18:33 |
| johnma | yes you need to add times. Right now it shows all day | 18:33 |
| trevormc | ok well ill fix this up in the meantime we can talk about other things | 18:34 |
| johnma | thats all I had about that topic. Lets add this link to the meeting agenda | 18:35 |
| johnma | moving on | 18:35 |
| johnma | #topic Open Discussion | 18:35 |
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| johnma | trevormc: you had something to share | 18:35 |
| trevormc | Should we prioritize any of the changes in the backlog? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-backlog-changes | 18:36 |
| trevormc | ^ these are changes made by employees that no longer contribute | 18:36 |
| trevormc | or at least not as much as they were. | 18:36 |
| trevormc | I just wanted to ask, does anyone have interest in these? | 18:36 |
| trevormc | because if not, we can just forget about them and move on. I for one would like to review the datstore specific API controllers patch by pmalik | 18:37 |
| trevormc | rpittau also commented the same. | 18:37 |
| trevormc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406395/ | 18:37 |
| kumarmn | The MySQL 5.7 not starting after restore seems important. | 18:38 |
| trevormc | kumarmn yes these are worthy changes but how worthy is the question. | 18:38 |
| trevormc | and if we choose to move any forward, which ones and why | 18:38 |
| johnma | yes kumarmn. we should fix that one | 18:38 |
| johnma | trevormc: I think this would be a good topic to discuss during the Reboot meetup | 18:39 |
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| trevormc | ok, so everyone just review the content and be prepared to talk about which ones you would like to review | 18:40 |
| johnma | there are alot of patches sitting out there which we need to go through and prioritize. I am not sure how relevant some of the topics in that etherpad are anymore | 18:40 |
| johnma | some of the things I think we discussed last week which we need to work on this release are: | 18:40 |
| johnma | 1) support the latest version of datastores - like mysql 5.7, mongo 3. 4, etc on ubuntu-xenial | 18:41 |
| johnma | 2) we need more contributors to work on the trove dashboard portion - to add new features that exist in the command line but not the UI | 18:42 |
| johnma | 3) documentation of course | 18:42 |
| kumarmn | 4) Resolve gate issues | 18:42 |
| johnma | 4) update the tempest plugin - add new tests | 18:43 |
| johnma | yes kumarmn | 18:43 |
| trevormc | more specifically, identify gate issues. | 18:43 |
| johnma | so trevormc, I think we can add these items into the etherpad as the items we want to discuss during the reboot meetup | 18:44 |
| trevormc | ok, ill create a seperate one. | 18:44 |
| johnma | is that going to be a seperate etherpad? | 18:45 |
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| johnma | I think we can start a new etherpad for Trove-Reboot and can link the backlog etherpad in there | 18:45 |
| trevormc | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-reboot | 18:45 |
| johnma | cool, thanks trevormc | 18:46 |
| johnma | so, thats all I had. anyone have anything else to discuss. | 18:46 |
| trevormc | I also added the ptg topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pike-ptg-topics | 18:48 |
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| trevormc | - not sure if those went anywhere | 18:48 |
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| johnma | that sounds good trevormc. It is a good chance to go over those topics as well. | 18:48 |
| trevormc | umm just please review ! | 18:49 |
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| trevormc | I want to incourage 0 comments that inquire about more details on a change | 18:49 |
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| trevormc | encourage* | 18:50 |
| trevormc | my reasoning is that we have new contributors learning about the code, and most of us probably have the same question. | 18:50 |
| johnma | yes, agree | 18:51 |
| trevormc | I just don't see anyone reviewing lately, I was going through the reviews with no updates for 3-4 weeks | 18:51 |
| trevormc | ^ those are the most active ones lol | 18:51 |
| trevormc | https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack/trove,dashboards/important-changes:review-inbox-dashboard | 18:52 |
| trevormc | is the dashboard I use, I click on the middle header that says passed jenkins no feedback and it gives me a link that requires auth | 18:52 |
| trevormc | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+NOT+label:Code-Review%253E%253D0%252Cself+label:Verified%253E%253D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-1+NOT+label:Workflow%253C%253D-1+project:openstack/trove | 18:52 |
| trevormc | so those are the changes we should review just to get our feet wet in the code, some are wayward changes and we can pass on those but for the most part we should spend sometime giving some kind of feedback. | 18:53 |
| trevormc | review bandwidth is a problem, I know, but the amount of active reviews reflect that so it shouldnt be too much of an ask, | 18:54 |
| kumarmn | ok, I can start looking at some of them | 18:54 |
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| trevormc | cool! its important to show trove has some kind of heart beat left lol | 18:55 |
| trevormc | - i personally got turned away because of the lack of reviews. I had a list of changes with no feedback on. | 18:55 |
| johnma | yes, i agree. We need to become more active in doing reviews. There was a sharp decrease in the number of reviews last release and we need to get up to speed in this release and get the momentum going | 18:55 |
| johnma | alright, anything else? | 18:56 |
| johnma | we are almost at the top of the hour. | 18:57 |
| trevormc | yeah I think I said enough :) | 18:57 |
| songjian | Well, we seem to need more review feedback | 18:57 |
| johnma | :) , very good feedback and thoughts trevormc. Appreciate it | 18:57 |
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| trevormc | shamless plug for OSC changes https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-troveclient+branch:master+topic:bp/trove-support-in-python-openstackclient | 18:57 |
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| trevormc | - should be pretty easy to test given its just the client. | 18:58 |
| johnma | yes songjian. I think that is going to a a renewed focus this release. It was encouraging to see the renewed interest in the project at the Boston Summit | 18:58 |
| trevormc | but i should update those, just need people to let me know they are going to review em. | 18:58 |
| trevormc | songjian, I feel your concern as well | 18:59 |
| johnma | trevormc, please add me as a reviewer. Songjian, please add me as a reviewer to the ones that you would like me to review | 18:59 |
| johnma | that way its easier for me to figure out the ones that are ready for review | 18:59 |
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| trevormc | ok that makes sense | 18:59 |
| trevormc | thats what the workflow -1 is for | 18:59 |
| trevormc | - i guess we can move into the main channel if we want to keep discussinong | 19:00 |
| johnma | well , there are some that have been sitting out there for some time | 19:00 |
| songjian | Well, I will clean up some unnecessary patches, leave some useful, and then please review | 19:00 |
| johnma | yes, sounds good. So let's call it a wrap for this week's meeting. Thank you all for joining today's meeting and the great discussions. | 19:00 |
| johnma | yes songjian, please add me as a reviewer - mariamj@us.ibm.com | 19:01 |
| songjian | ok | 19:01 |
| johnma | thanks guys and have a good rest of the day. | 19:02 |
| johnma | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 19:02:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-17-18.00.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-17-18.00.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-17-18.00.log.html | 19:02 |
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