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| toabctl | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 4 12:17:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:17 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:17 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:17 |
| toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 12:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 12:17 |
| jpena | o/ | 12:17 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:18 |
| toabctl | #chair jpena IgorYozhikov dirk number80 | 12:18 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk jpena number80 toabctl | 12:18 |
| toabctl | as usual, please add your topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's start | 12:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic python3 again (toabctl) | 12:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python3 again (toabctl) (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:21 | |
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| toabctl | just wanted to ask (again) if there is some feedback for the singlespec approach | 12:22 |
| toabctl | jpena, IgorYozhikov did you find some time to look into that? | 12:23 |
| jpena | I've had some look at it, but wanted to wait for number80's feedback | 12:23 |
| toabctl | ok. cool | 12:24 |
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| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, if you don't have any feedback, we can go to the next topic :) | 12:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | I discussed about py3 locally(MOS side) & unfortunately support of py3 is not necessary from perspective of view from mgmt side | 12:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | aka there are no resources for that | 12:25 |
| dirk | toabctl: sorry for late join, I added a topic | 12:25 |
| IgorYozhikov | and there is no demand | 12:26 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, ok. | 12:26 |
| IgorYozhikov | so, for now MOS will continue to support only py2 | 12:26 |
| IgorYozhikov | because it will require a lot of efforts to support py3 versions of all python dependencies | 12:27 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, but if the work would be done by others, would you be ok to add py3 support? | 12:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, I'm fine with py3 | 12:27 |
| toabctl | at least to the packages we maintain in rpm-packaging? | 12:27 |
| toabctl | ok. that's good | 12:27 |
| toabctl | next topic? | 12:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | but MOS CI will not be able to validate them, I mean py3 parts | 12:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | because we are using centos 7 as the base layer | 12:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | and a lot of py3 should be rebuild from scratch of backported from Fedora for example | 12:28 |
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| IgorYozhikov | and here I want to ask, can we figure out a solution like if with_py3 ? | 12:29 |
| IgorYozhikov | for our templates | 12:29 |
| toabctl | I guess yes. | 12:29 |
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| IgorYozhikov | if so, that will be good | 12:31 |
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| toabctl | anything else about py3? | 12:33 |
| dirk | not from me | 12:34 |
| dirk | it looks like the action item needs to be recorded? | 12:34 |
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| toabctl | dirk, which item? | 12:34 |
| dirk | #action number80 provide feedback on python3 singlespec approach | 12:36 |
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| dirk | It's a bit rude to put him on that but since jpena and number80 already talked about that I hope he'll forgive us :) | 12:36 |
| toabctl | dirk, number80 is not here so he does not know about it :) | 12:36 |
| toabctl | I guess he will :) | 12:36 |
| toabctl | #topic RDO gate voting | 12:37 |
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| toabctl | dirk, ^^ | 12:37 |
| dirk | just wanted to reiterate on this, because I forgot track | 12:38 |
| dirk | I think the rdo gate is stable and providing good test results at least for master | 12:38 |
| dirk | I would like to have it voting | 12:38 |
| dirk | any concerns, opinions about that? | 12:38 |
| toabctl | +1 for making it voting | 12:39 |
| jpena | I think it's a good moment to do it. I've just migrated the VM hosting the repos to a better cloud, and I'm on my way to fixing the issues we had with stable/ocata | 12:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | + 1 | 12:39 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's make RDO CI vote ... :) | 12:40 |
| jpena | iirc, all we had to do was to change some ACLs in gerrit, right? | 12:40 |
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| dirk | jpena: its a small config change in the zuul layout as well | 12:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | jpena, I do not remember what exactly should be done now, might be dirk knows? | 12:41 |
| dirk | so we need to allow it to vote, and the zuul need s to report the vote resolt | 12:42 |
| IgorYozhikov | right, zuul layout | 12:42 |
| dirk | result | 12:42 |
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| dirk | I'll fix the permissions in gerrit so that it can vote | 12:42 |
| dirk | done | 12:44 |
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| IgorYozhikov | should we vote for such change? | 12:44 |
| IgorYozhikov | I mean +1 | 12:44 |
| toabctl | +1 | 12:44 |
| jpena | +1 | 12:45 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm about PR in gerrit:) | 12:45 |
| dirk | jpena: https://github.com/SUSE-Cloud/automation/blob/master/hostscripts/zuul/layout.yaml#L14 and following lines are the magic I think | 12:45 |
| jpena | dirk: ah ok, I see | 12:46 |
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| jpena | it's fixed already | 12:46 |
| IgorYozhikov | ah, need to jump out fro 5 min :( | 12:46 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/fro/for/ | 12:46 |
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| dirk | next? | 12:47 |
| dirk | we're running out of time in 13 min | 12:48 |
| dirk | toabctl: ^^ | 12:48 |
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| toabctl | #topic packages reviews | 12:48 |
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| toabctl | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open | 12:48 |
| toabctl | I'll go over them and merge where possible | 12:49 |
| toabctl | are there any reviews where a discussion is needed? | 12:49 |
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| dirk | I've been a bit slow on this | 12:50 |
| toabctl | jpena, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451617/ could be merged | 12:50 |
| dirk | I'll also check it out today as time permits | 12:50 |
| dirk | there was a major outage for the suse ci for the last days | 12:50 |
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| dirk | I tried rechecking everything but maybe I missed something. please check that suse ci voted +1 | 12:50 |
| jpena | are we not waiting for the MOS CI? | 12:50 |
| toabctl | true | 12:51 |
| toabctl | IgorYozhikov, could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451617/ please? | 12:51 |
| toabctl | #topic OpenFloor | 12:51 |
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| dirk | (to clarify: due to the jenkins security update we had to update to java 1.8 and that had some fallout including not running jobs at all anymore) | 12:51 |
| toabctl | anything else ? | 12:51 |
| dirk | denver PTG? | 12:52 |
| dirk | I think I might go there (approvals still missing) | 12:52 |
| toabctl | when is it? | 12:53 |
| dirk | mid september | 12:53 |
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| toabctl | ok. I'm sure I'll not go | 12:53 |
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| jpena | I might go, but that depends on approvals | 12:54 |
| dirk | I heard there is room planning ongoing, I hope IgorYozhikov is checking emails on that | 12:54 |
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| toabctl | let's discuss it next week when IgorYozhikov is back. or during the week in #openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:55 |
| toabctl | I have another meeting now so let's close it here | 12:56 |
| dirk | wfm | 12:56 |
| toabctl | if there is something else -> #openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:56 |
| toabctl | thanks everybody | 12:56 |
| toabctl | #endmeeting | 12:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 4 12:56:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-04-12.17.html | 12:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-04-12.17.txt | 12:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-04-12.17.log.html | 12:56 |
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| szaher | #startmeeting freezer | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 4 14:01:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:01 |
| szaher | Hello freezer folks | 14:02 |
| szaher | Please take a look at the meeting agenda here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:02 |
| jiaopengju | hi | 14:02 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Hi | 14:02 |
| Yangyapeng | hello szaher jiaopengju | 14:02 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Thanks for nova patch | 14:02 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: Hey :) | 14:03 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: | 14:03 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: How are you ? | 14:03 |
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| Yangyapeng | szaher Fine, thank you | 14:03 |
| Yangyapeng | :) | 14:03 |
| szaher | Let's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join :) | 14:03 |
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| vnogin_ | hi guys | 14:05 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Hey Vitaliy | 14:05 |
| szaher | nice to hear from you again! | 14:05 |
| Yangyapeng | Hi vnogin_ | 14:05 |
| vnogin_ | nice to see you, guys :) | 14:06 |
| slashme | Hi all | 14:06 |
| Yangyapeng | slashme hi, | 14:06 |
| szaher | slashme: Hi :) | 14:06 |
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| szaher | Ok let's start | 14:08 |
| Yangyapeng | jiaopengju I have a update this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458379/ | 14:08 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher ok | 14:08 |
| szaher | #topic Announcements: No meeting next week! | 14:08 |
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| szaher | As all of you know, next week we will be in boston, so I think there no need to do freezer meeting. | 14:09 |
| szaher | Is anyone thinks that we might need to have a meeting next week ? | 14:09 |
| vnogin_ | from my point of view we can skip it | 14:09 |
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| szaher | vnogin_: +1 | 14:10 |
| Yangyapeng | vnogin_ agree | 14:10 |
| jiaopengju02 | vnogin_: +1 | 14:10 |
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| slashme | +1 | 14:12 |
| szaher | :) | 14:12 |
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| vnogin_ | next topic please :))) | 14:12 |
| szaher | Ok so #agreed No freezer meeting next week! | 14:12 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Sure :) | 14:12 |
| szaher | #topic Backup of volume based nova instance | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Backup of volume based nova instance (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:12 | |
| szaher | jiaopengju: I think you mean to backup instances booted from volumes right ? | 14:13 |
| jiaopengju02 | yes | 14:13 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: That would be a great feature to have | 14:13 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Do you have a ready patch upstream ? | 14:13 |
| jiaopengju02 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460427/ | 14:14 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju02: Unfortunately nova restore is not working because of python-novaclient | 14:15 |
| szaher | if you install the latest python-novaclient the restore wouldn't work because there is no object called networks in the nova client! | 14:16 |
| szaher | We might need to take a look at this bug soon :) | 14:16 |
| jiaopengju02 | I just implement the backup, if it is necessary, I will implement next step | 14:16 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: The restore process is working fine, but we don't really restore the instance to a volume | 14:17 |
| jiaopengju02 | I do not know if we should create a new volume when doing restore | 14:17 |
| jiaopengju02 | ok | 14:17 |
| szaher | anyway the normal restore of nova instance is not working | 14:17 |
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| Yangyapeng | jiaopengju02 restore volume to the same volume, it is ok | 14:17 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: I think we might need to check if the volume backend exists so we restore using volume if not we do normal restore | 14:18 |
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| jiaopengju02 | I agree with you | 14:19 |
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| Yangyapeng | szaher if restore the using volume, it may be instance reboot. | 14:19 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: sorry I didn't get it | 14:20 |
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| jiaopengju02 | In my patch, the instances booted from volumes can only be restored as an image boot instance | 14:21 |
| Yangyapeng | If restore the using volume, and the volume is instance(vda), this instances should be reboot, To take effect | 14:21 |
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| Yangyapeng | jiaopengju02 I understand | 14:22 |
| Yangyapeng | jiaopengju02 if we can restore the nova_instance directly | 14:23 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: I think in nova restore, the idea is to create volume then boot an instance from this volume. The instance didn't exists before we create a volume | 14:25 |
| jiaopengju02 | I think we can record the instance type in the metadata, when doing restore, we can chose a way (create a new volume boot instance or just image boot) with the metadata | 14:26 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher OK :) thank you szaher | 14:26 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: correct me if I'm wrong | 14:26 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: Thanks :) | 14:26 |
| szaher | Let's move to next topic ? | 14:28 |
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| jiaopengju02 | ok | 14:28 |
| Yangyapeng | ok | 14:28 |
| szaher | #topic heat specs | 14:29 |
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| szaher | Yangyapeng: Did you ping the guys in #heat room :) ? | 14:29 |
| szaher | it's #heat not #openstack-heat | 14:29 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher yes | 14:29 |
| Yangyapeng | No #heat not #openstack-heat | 14:29 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher but we need more than to review heat core member | 14:30 |
| szaher | vnogin_: is raliev still on holidays ? | 14:30 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Dmitry ? | 14:30 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: on vacation (both) | 14:31 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Cool :) | 14:31 |
| szaher | are they going to be back soon ? | 14:31 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: for them, yep :)) | 14:31 |
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| vnogin_ | szaher: Dima in 2 week, Ruslan in 1 week | 14:31 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Nice :) | 14:32 |
| szaher | move on ? | 14:32 |
| vnogin_ | + | 14:33 |
| szaher | #topic Free discussion, feel free to pick a topic to have a chat about it :) | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Free discussion, feel free to pick a topic to have a chat about it :) (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:33 | |
| Yangyapeng | szaher about oslo.db | 14:33 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher if we have more output :) | 14:33 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: openstack ansible repo :) do we have any updates regarding repo? | 14:34 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher desired | 14:34 |
| szaher | vnogin_: I will open it soon :) I'm sorry for being so late in creating it | 14:34 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: That why I was looking for Dima | 14:34 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: cool, tnx ) | 14:35 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher thanks | 14:35 |
| szaher | Updating core members :) | 14:35 |
| szaher | I will like to remove some people from core members :( | 14:35 |
| szaher | and add some :) | 14:35 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: good idea :) | 14:36 |
| szaher | There are some inactive people that they don't do anything since last release in freezer so I'm thinking of revoking their rights | 14:36 |
| Yangyapeng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458379/ if someone have time, please review it . | 14:36 |
| Yangyapeng | szaher good | 14:36 |
| vnogin_ | Yangyapeng: already done it :) | 14:37 |
| Yangyapeng | vnogin_ thank you :) | 14:37 |
| vnogin_ | Yangyapeng: I'm not sure, should we add for such commits release notes or not. What do you think? | 14:38 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: yep, it really good idea to remove inactive people from the core-list | 14:39 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Also adding new ones :) | 14:39 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: yep :) currently I see only 4 active cores :( | 14:41 |
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| Yangyapeng | vnogin_ someone have this requirements in channel #opesnstack-freezer, and it have some business :) | 14:41 |
| Yangyapeng | If We have some topics in boston szaher | 14:43 |
| szaher | Yangyapeng: Do you have something you want to discuss | 14:43 |
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| Yangyapeng | szaher no :( | 14:44 |
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| szaher | I think we're going to remove Tim Buckley, Deklan Dieterly | 14:44 |
| szaher | as they're inactive for the time being | 14:44 |
| Yangyapeng | D D | 14:45 |
| slashme | +1 | 14:45 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: will you send notification to openstack-dev regarding these changes? | 14:45 |
| vnogin_ | +1 haven't seen any activity from these guys last year | 14:46 |
| szaher | vnogin_: I will send two emails one to announce there will be no meeting next week | 14:46 |
| szaher | second to update the core members :) | 14:46 |
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| szaher | the new members to be added we I will prepare the names and we can give a kind of big task to have them on board | 14:47 |
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| szaher | by the way api-ref is publish here https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/backup/ | 14:50 |
| szaher | I trying to add links in the main page like all projects ;) | 14:50 |
| szaher | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461824/ | 14:50 |
| jiaopengju02 | cool | 14:51 |
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| vnogin_ | szaher: I see + 2 from Alexandra, it meens that it will be merged soonest :)) | 14:52 |
| szaher | vnogin_: hopefully :) | 14:52 |
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| szaher | Ok folks, anyone want to discuss anything else ? | 14:55 |
| vnogin_ | from my side - nope :) | 14:55 |
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| szaher | OK :) | 14:55 |
| szaher | Thank you guys :) | 14:56 |
| szaher | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 4 14:56:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-04-14.01.html | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-04-14.01.txt | 14:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-04-14.01.log.html | 14:56 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 4 15:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| dustins | hey hey | 15:00 |
| jprovazn | HI | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hey | 15:00 |
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| zhongjun | hi | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | markstur gouthamr: courtesy ping | 15:01 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov is on vacation today | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | so I assume all of you know Boston is next week | 15:02 |
| bswartz | and there are no Manila sessions planned | 15:02 |
| tbarron | manila status report | 15:02 |
| bswartz | Some presentations at the summit will be relevant to Manila, but we're not doing the typical developer summit stuff because we did that at PTF | 15:02 |
| bswartz | PTG | 15:02 |
| tbarron | kk | 15:02 |
| tommylikehu | hello | 15:02 |
| bswartz | tbarron: yeah I'm doing the project update -- cknight and ganso have a presentation, and I expect there will be others too | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | tbarron vkmc and rraja have one too | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | and arneweiback | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | (sp) | 15:04 |
| bswartz | anyways I was planning to hold the weekly meeting as normal next week, unless most of you won't attend | 15:04 |
| xyang1 | I'll be there too | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | xyang1: :) ofcourse you will | 15:04 |
| bswartz | My time in Boston will be limited to Tuesday/Wednesday so I'll be back home by Thursday and I can chair the meeting as usual | 15:04 |
| xyang1 | Most likely I won't attend | 15:04 |
| tbarron | nor i, but so what | 15:05 |
| bswartz | xyang1 won't even need a hotel | 15:05 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: :) | 15:05 |
| ganso | I don't plan on attending the weekly meeting as well | 15:05 |
| bswartz | anyone really want to keep the meeting next week? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | if not, it sounds like we should preemptively cancel | 15:06 |
| tbarron | I think next Thursday at that time Paddy Power Betfair will be talking about deploying manila with netapp backend | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | +1 cancel | 15:06 |
| bswartz | oh yes betfair | 15:06 |
| tbarron | dunno if it will be live-streamed | 15:06 |
| markstur | +1 (out-of-town) | 15:06 |
| markstur | +1 cancel that is | 15:07 |
| bswartz | tbarron: you can attend the session and live-tweet it | 15:07 |
| bswartz | LOL | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: heh | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | markstur: are you not in Boston? | 15:07 |
| vkmc_ | o/ | 15:07 |
| markstur | xyang1: Not Boston | 15:07 |
| bswartz | okay then it's decided, no meeting next week -- I'll post a note on the wiki | 15:07 |
| jungleboyj | markstur: :-( | 15:07 |
| markstur | jungleboyj: yeah | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | markstur: :( | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic Share usage monitoring | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Share usage monitoring (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:08 | |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459150/ | 15:08 |
| bswartz | just wanted to call attention to this spec one last time | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I think we're happy with it finally | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | but if anyone has a discussion topic or question to raise now, we can spend some time on it | 15:09 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:09 |
| bswartz | sounds like we can move on | 15:10 |
| zhongjun | It got two +2, and waiting for another. :) | 15:10 |
| bswartz | zhongjun there are 4 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | and vponomaryov won't vote because he's out | 15:10 |
| zhongjun | oh, cool | 15:10 |
| bswartz | so anyone else who wants to review please do right after the meeting and if no objections I'll workflow shortly | 15:11 |
| bswartz | and that will wrap up specs for the Pike release | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #topic Summit/PTG | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit/PTG (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| bswartz | so the other thing I wanted to discuss today is the future of our community-wide design meetings | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'm already being asked about the Denver PTG | 15:12 |
| bswartz | whether we want space there or not | 15:13 |
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| ganso | oh it is going to be in Denver, I had heard rumors it was not going to be in the US | 15:13 |
| bswartz | and I told the foundation folks I want to see how the "hacking spaces" in Boston are before I give my answer | 15:13 |
| bswartz | but what you all want is more important | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | ganso: They landed on Denver because the venue was cheaper and more compact. | 15:14 |
| kaisers | O/ | 15:14 |
| bswartz | My bottom line is that I think 4 annual face to face meetings is unrealistic for a team as distributed as ours | 15:14 |
| bswartz | ganso: they were threating to do a non-US PTG when the trump travel ban was still up being fought in the courts -- since that's been settled, I guess they feel okay about US-based venues again | 15:15 |
| bswartz | anyways I know that most of us can't get budget to travel 4 times a year, so we need to figure out what kind of face to face meetings we want to have going forward and whether we want to align with PTG or summit or something else | 15:16 |
| tbarron | I think we have to be able to do design w/o four global face-to-face meetings a year, agree. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | the foundation's stance is clear, and I disagree with it -- they expect developers to come to all 4 annual events | 15:17 |
| tbarron | And my company at least thinks it will be more cost-effective to do PTGs. | 15:18 |
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| jungleboyj | tbarron: That seems to be the leaning and I think the Foundation is trying to make it that way. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | anyways we don't have to decide now, but I'd like to collect feedback on the possibility of trying to do our face to face meetings at summits instead of PTGs in the future | 15:19 |
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| tbarron | the foundation's stance is somewhat ambiguous: they want a "sufficient number" of key developers at Forums but I think they want PTGs to be the main place developers plan with one another | 15:19 |
| bswartz | because it seems that some people are able to travel to summits more easily than PTGs | 15:19 |
| vkmc_ | So... AFAIK PTGs were a way to formalize midcycles | 15:19 |
| bswartz | tbarron: I know, it's maddening -- they want to eat their cake and still have it | 15:20 |
| jungleboyj | vkmc_: Yeah, that was the goal. | 15:20 |
| ganso | going to the PTG will not stop the need of travelling 4 times... as some of us submit presentations for the summit | 15:20 |
| vkmc_ | But I'm afraid that we won't have so much time and room on the summits | 15:20 |
| bswartz | ganso: that was my point -- whether we do anything at summit or not, many of us have to travel there anyways | 15:21 |
| vkmc_ | At least, compared to the past format | 15:21 |
| bswartz | the other mark against the PTG format is that holding our meetings there effectively prevents meeting with other teams for cross project work | 15:21 |
| bswartz | now we could work with the foundation to fix the latter problem | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | but another alternative is to make our official design meetings purely virtual (like the virtual midcycles we've done in the past) and to plan ad-hoc meetings for PTG and summit around whenever there aren't any conflicts | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | anyways I wanted to suggest some options today, and get you thinking about what we want to do as a community for Queens | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | we don't need to decide today, but we will need to decide after boston | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | I'm going to Boston with an eye towards the possibility that maybe doing face to face meetings at summits instead of PTGs could be a better way to get together, so I'll be watching the forum and the hacking spaces | 15:24 |
| bswartz | that's all I had on that topic | 15:25 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:25 | |
| vkmc_ | bswartz: +1 | 15:26 |
| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:26 |
| tbarron | Do we have a way today to indicate preferred export locations? | 15:26 |
| tbarron | This may be a Queens spec | 15:26 |
| ganso | tbarron: AFAIK, yes, I've seen a "preferred" flag for export locations | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | we have "preferred" | 15:26 |
| bswartz | tbarron: that's what the work on the export location metadata was about | 15:26 |
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| tbarron | I'd like driver to be able to choose preferred location for each server, to be more precise | 15:27 |
| tbarron | for each user VM consumer | 15:27 |
| bswartz | flags exposed through export location metadata need to be community standards -- we don't allow vendor-specific stuff there | 15:27 |
| bswartz | tbarron: that's a separate issue | 15:27 |
| bswartz | you're talking about export location locality | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz: right, but driver may know which would be the best export location for a particular VM | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz: right, any objection to us thinking about it and working on it? | 15:28 |
| bswartz | Manila has zero idea where you VM is, so all we can do is tell you what we know about where the export locations are | 15:28 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it's relevant to failure domains. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | currently all manila knows is the AZ | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | yes, we wanted to incorporate AZ info into export locations | 15:28 |
| tbarron | bswartz: right, but one can ask nova and chase it that way too | 15:28 |
| tbarron | I | 15:28 |
| tbarron | I'm interested in more fine-grained than AZ | 15:29 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: no share can have export locations in AZs other than where the share is currently | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | currently, we don't have that information in the export locations API.. you can look at the share instance itself to figure out what the AZ is | 15:29 |
| tbarron | Anyways, we can pursue this more, just checking if there's any prior art. | 15:29 |
| bswartz | with replicas -- the AZ is on the replica | 15:29 |
| bswartz | tbarron: the Hitachi SOP people really wanted that feature | 15:30 |
| bswartz | but we couldn't figure out a vendor-neutral way to express locality in a way that would also make sense to a nova user | 15:30 |
| tbarron | my use case is that I want the share server to be one of a set of share servers and I want to pick the share server running on the same compute node as the vm it serves | 15:30 |
| tbarron | so I don't need share server HA/redundancy to avoid a meaningful SPOF | 15:30 |
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| tbarron | if the share server dies b/c of hardware failure then it's consumers will also have died | 15:31 |
| tbarron | I'll write it up. | 15:31 |
| bswartz | tbarron: for export locations that literally on the hypervisors where nova runs, it easy to see how we could provide information that's relevant to nova, but most of our drivers couldn't do that | 15:32 |
| tbarron | yeah, i'll have to make it an optional thing | 15:33 |
| tbarron | topic #2 | 15:33 |
| bswartz | that could work | 15:33 |
| tbarron | do we have any way at all of supporting nova VM migration? | 15:33 |
| tbarron | I think not, just checking. | 15:33 |
| bswartz | tbarron: migration of the VMs or migration of the shares? | 15:33 |
| tbarron | migration of VMs, ejection and start on different compute host | 15:34 |
| bswartz | or are you talking about migration of shares servers with something like the generic driver | 15:34 |
| tbarron | no, migration of VMs | 15:34 |
| bswartz | tbarron: that should just work | 15:34 |
| tbarron | with live mounts? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | shares should be reachable from the whole world | 15:34 |
| tbarron | but how do we quiesce and move ? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | as long as nova doesn't change the IP or break the routing while the VM is moving, I see no issues | 15:34 |
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| tbarron | no libvirt support for that with shares, right? | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I think support isn't needed | 15:35 |
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| tbarron | what happens if the VM is in the middle of writes? | 15:35 |
| bswartz | shares are really a higher level application that relies on the network stack inside the guest OS | 15:35 |
| bswartz | tbarron: same thing that happens to any application with active network traffic during a migration | 15:36 |
| bswartz | as long as the network stack doesn't break, the VM shouldn't notice any problems | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Isn't that really the challenge of migration. Quiescing the work on the VM? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | and I'm pretty sure that nova would keep the same IP and routing | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Wouldn't think that is specific to Manila. | 15:36 |
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| jungleboyj | bswartz: It is supposed to. | 15:36 |
| tbarron | I wonder if anyone has tested this. | 15:37 |
| bswartz | tbarron: I would imagine that, worst case, you could lose some packets and the guest would need to retry those packets | 15:37 |
| bswartz | both NFS over TCP and UDP can deal with packet loss though | 15:37 |
| bswartz | NFS is insanely tolerant of failures | 15:37 |
| bswartz | with a hard mount, your I/O will just freeze until the NFS server is reachable again | 15:38 |
| bswartz | soft mounts could conceivably get I/O errors if packet loss was bad enough during the migration | 15:38 |
| tbarron | So nova is smart enough to bring up the new VM with the same client IP, and locks just work, etc.? | 15:39 |
| bswartz | tbarron: yes I'd say I'm pretty confident | 15:39 |
| * tbarron is happy | 15:39 | |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: As far as I know. | 15:39 |
| bswartz | but to your question, I haven't tested it personally | 15:39 |
| bswartz | alright anything else today? | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | if not, see you guys in boston | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds good. See you there. | 15:41 |
| bswartz | for anyone who came in late, weekly IRC meeting is canceled next week | 15:41 |
| tbarron | bye | 15:41 |
| zhongjun | good night :) | 15:41 |
| bswartz | and there are no developer meetings planned for Manila in boston, just summit presentations and random discussions | 15:41 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 4 15:41:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-04-15.00.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-04-15.00.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-04-15.00.log.html | 15:41 |
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| ianychoi | I am waiting for Docs team IRC meeting :) | 21:02 |
| skelso | Now I know I'm not in the wrong place at the wrong time :) | 21:02 |
| * annegentle waves | 21:03 | |
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| annegentle | I think it's now, yeah? | 21:03 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 21:03 |
| annegentle | hiya | 21:03 |
| skelso | Yup, according to the e-mail and my handy-dandy UTC time converter. | 21:03 |
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| jrobinson | Hi all, the docs meeting is ordinarily now, yes. | 21:04 |
| annegentle | ok thanks jrobinson | 21:04 |
| annegentle | asettle oh asettle where are you asettle? :) | 21:04 |
| ianychoi | Hi all :) | 21:04 |
| ianychoi | asettle is now playing hide-and-seek? :) | 21:05 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi o/ hi :) | 21:05 |
| ianychoi | I am okay because I actually was so late on last I18n IRC meeting | 21:07 |
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| jrobinson | I'm also okay to wait a little longer. | 21:09 |
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| jrobinson | I'm okay to run through the meeting agenda - we still have til the hour. | 21:15 |
| ianychoi | jrobinson, yep please run :) | 21:16 |
| jrobinson | #startmeeting docteam | 21:17 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 4 21:17:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jrobinson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:17 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:17 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 21:17 |
| jrobinson | Okay, so as Alex noted in a message to the mailing list yesterday, this is the last meeting before the summit. | 21:17 |
| ianychoi | yep | 21:17 |
| jrobinson | #topic Action items from last meeting | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:17 | |
| jrobinson | And there are none | 21:17 |
| asettle | OH MY GOSH | 21:18 |
| asettle | I AM HERE | 21:18 |
| asettle | I AM SO SORRY | 21:18 |
| asettle | I AM THE WORST | 21:18 |
| asettle | IM HERE | 21:18 |
| asettle | I JUST | 21:18 |
| asettle | OH MAN | 21:18 |
| asettle | IM SORRY | 21:18 |
| ianychoi | jrobinson is now the meeting chair! :P | 21:18 |
| ianychoi | asettle, fine :) | 21:18 |
| asettle | Thanks jrobinson :D :D | 21:18 |
| skelso | No worries. | 21:18 |
| jrobinson | It is okay! I'm sorry, I should have waited a few more minutes. | 21:18 |
| jrobinson | But we have literally not even started any topics. | 21:19 |
| asettle | jrobinson: give the agenda a quick refresh | 21:19 |
| asettle | Oh. wait. | 21:19 |
| asettle | In a minute | 21:19 |
| asettle | I'm sorry guys. I have to admit, I totally lost track of time. | 21:19 |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:19 |
| jrobinson | ^we were about to do the OpenStack summit. | 21:20 |
| jrobinson | #topic Countdown to summit | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Countdown to summit (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:20 | |
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| asettle | OKay! | 21:20 |
| asettle | jrobinson: refresh that agenda ;) | 21:20 |
| jrobinson | asettle refreshed - speciality team reports topic is shorter now | 21:21 |
| asettle | Yepppp :) | 21:21 |
| asettle | Much shorter. | 21:21 |
| asettle | I'll give everyone an update in the PTL report | 21:21 |
| jrobinson | sounds good. | 21:22 |
| jrobinson | What's happening with the summit forums and events? | 21:23 |
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| asettle | jrobinson: okay, so, for everyone's knowledge... | 21:23 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-summit | 21:23 |
| asettle | Everything that's related to docs is listed here | 21:23 |
| asettle | As we all know by now, the way the old summits used to work is very different from the new 'forum' style | 21:23 |
| ianychoi | asettle, yep the link is what I am finding :) | 21:24 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 21:24 |
| asettle | Most importantly, I would really like to see people who are coming to Boston at the onboarding session with ianychoi and myself | 21:24 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-onboarding | 21:24 |
| asettle | Also for hte project update | 21:24 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-project-update | 21:24 |
| asettle | Which will be presented by myself, Olga, and Alex Adamov | 21:24 |
| asettle | ildikov and I also worked on a new forum session to include. Please attend if you can: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future | 21:25 |
| asettle | Sorry | 21:25 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future | 21:25 |
| asettle | Add yourselves to the attendance list, and the dinner list if you are able and willing to come :) | 21:25 |
| asettle | skelso: asked me earlier about remote attendees. As this is not quite the same as the PTG, and I don't know what resources we have, sadly I cannot promise anything :( | 21:25 |
| asettle | But, I know the project update will be recorded. | 21:26 |
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| ianychoi | Yep - I can join mostly on Monday but I might be so busy on Tue-Thu for I18n things | 21:26 |
| asettle | Of course :) | 21:26 |
| skelso | asettle: Thanks! | 21:26 |
| asettle | Does anyone have any questions about the summit? | 21:26 |
| ianychoi | asettle, there will be upstream institute report - which you also are interested | 21:26 |
| asettle | Yes, there will be! Do you have the link to that one, ianychoi ? | 21:27 |
| ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18875/openstack-upstream-institute-highlights | 21:28 |
| asettle | Awesome thank you ianychoi :) | 21:28 |
| asettle | I'll add to the list | 21:28 |
| ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18802/high-availability-in-openstack | 21:28 |
| ianychoi | And I am not pretty sure but it might be also related with ha-guide | 21:29 |
| ianychoi | That was what I have found which might be also related with Docs team when I saw overall schedule | 21:29 |
| asettle | Awesome :D thank you ianychoi ! | 21:29 |
| asettle | I missed both of those | 21:29 |
| ianychoi | asettle, yep.. there have been lots of changes on schedule. | 21:30 |
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| asettle | Awesome :) | 21:30 |
| asettle | Okay jrobinson I think that's all teh summit stuff? | 21:30 |
| jrobinson | moving on to: | 21:30 |
| jrobinson | #topic OSIC news | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSIC news (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:30 | |
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| asettle | jrobinson: ... the agenda should be different from that one? | 21:31 |
| asettle | Did you give that one a refresh? or did I fail to update properly? | 21:31 |
| jrobinson | Sorry, I was looking at a stale page - that's less tabs open is better! | 21:31 |
| jrobinson | #topic PTL Report | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL Report (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:31 | |
| ianychoi | Aha.. asettle updated! I was seeing the same old thing | 21:31 |
| asettle | Hahhaa sorry jrobinson i'm a slacker. | 21:32 |
| asettle | Yep! Okay! | 21:32 |
| asettle | So, just a little report on a few things going on | 21:32 |
| asettle | 1. As some as you would have seen, we have disbanded the majority of the specialty teams. | 21:32 |
| asettle | This is in an effect to refocus our effects as a team, rather than as working groups. | 21:33 |
| asettle | #link https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/team-structure.html | 21:33 |
| asettle | This doesn't mean that if you are working on any given project for a particular specialty team, that you cannot continue to do so. | 21:33 |
| asettle | But as far as official capacity is concerned, it is no longer a thing. | 21:33 |
| asettle | However, we have kept Anne with API's, and the respective training teams due to their more separate natures. | 21:34 |
| asettle | 2. dhellmann and I are on a mission to take over the world (okay, not really) | 21:34 |
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| asettle | We're currently talking about automating our CLI and Config Ref guides. | 21:34 |
| * dhellmann looks around nervously | 21:34 | |
| asettle | We'll have more info on that one after the summit. But just a heads up that's what direction we're thinking in. | 21:35 |
| asettle | This is to take the pressure off the documentation team to maintain guides that probably can maintain themselves. | 21:35 |
| asettle | We'll be looking into talking more at the Doc Future forum session about how to tackle the other guides too. | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | yes, I have a conflict with the etcd session at that time but I'll see if I can get someone else to cover that so I can attend the doc session | 21:36 |
| asettle | 3. Still on the lookout for a neutron CPL. If anyone knows a particularly gullible neutron person who wants to tackle the networking guide - please hit me up. The Networking Guide is a massively special piece of cake, and we need that to be addressed by the people that know it best. | 21:36 |
| asettle | Thanks dhellmann :) I appreciate that. | 21:36 |
| * asettle ends word vomit | 21:36 | |
| jrobinson | It appears in the future docs might be more of a liaison to docs in the developer repositories, editing and checking with dev teams. | 21:36 |
| asettle | Okay, any questions on that one? That was a lot of info, I'm sorry! | 21:36 |
| jrobinson | No question, just the thinking-out-loud point^ | 21:37 |
| asettle | jrobinson: that's definitely up for discussion, for sure. Just want to see what the project teams say. | 21:37 |
| asettle | jrobinson: maybe you could add that as a point of discussion to the doc-future etherpad? | 21:37 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future | 21:37 |
| ianychoi | Thanks for the report - I think all are in good directions | 21:37 |
| jrobinson | For sure, using the forum time to hear everyone's ideas is the best plan. | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | I think there's always going to be room for a team to build special guides, but it's also useful to consider how you can distribute the load | 21:37 |
| asettle | THanks ianychoi :) | 21:37 |
| asettle | dhellmann: yep, I think that'll be my main point of discussion. How we can involve more of the project teams. | 21:38 |
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| asettle | I think that's everything from me. If anyone has any quuestions or anything, please feel free to reach out to me at any time :) | 21:39 |
| jrobinson | Next topic: | 21:39 |
| jrobinson | #topic Speciality teams reports | 21:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Speciality teams reports (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:39 | |
| asettle | Now, we might be a little lean on the reports cause I can't seem to see Anne ... | 21:40 |
| jrobinson | Anne was around a bit earlier | 21:41 |
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| asettle | annegentle: ahuh! | 21:42 |
| asettle | There you are :) | 21:42 |
| asettle | Just in time for API reporting | 21:42 |
| annegentle | hi! | 21:42 |
| annegentle | oh, good! | 21:42 |
| asettle | o/ | 21:42 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, hi again! | 21:42 |
| annegentle | so the API interoperability guidelines landed! | 21:42 |
| ianychoi | Very nice timing :) | 21:42 |
| annegentle | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/api_interoperability.html | 21:42 |
| annegentle | spooky, almost :) | 21:42 |
| asettle | Ooo excellent! :D | 21:44 |
| asettle | Thanks annegentle :D | 21:44 |
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| annegentle | And then also it might have come up in Summit notes, but there's a Birds of a Feather session about devex | 21:44 |
| annegentle | Let me find the link | 21:44 |
| annegentle | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18500/app-developer-enablement-wg-bof | 21:44 |
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| asettle | Can someone please explain the 'birds of a feather' ref to me... | 21:44 |
| asettle | I feel like I'm missing something integral | 21:45 |
| dhellmann | birds of a feather flock together | 21:45 |
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| asettle | Ohhhh | 21:45 |
| ianychoi | haha | 21:45 |
| asettle | Well, that glass pane is now shattered, thanks tema | 21:45 |
| annegentle | dhellmann you type faster than me :) | 21:45 |
| asettle | team* | 21:45 |
| ianychoi | yep I forgot mentioning this | 21:45 |
| dhellmann | annegentle :-) | 21:45 |
| annegentle | ye olde poetic English apparently? | 21:46 |
| asettle | :p | 21:46 |
| asettle | Well, I'm learning :P | 21:47 |
| annegentle | ooh! http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/birds-of-a-feather-flock-together.html :) | 21:47 |
| annegentle | anyway, that's all for the API report | 21:47 |
| asettle | "Those of similar taste congregate in groups." | 21:47 |
| asettle | Thanks annegentle :) | 21:47 |
| asettle | I cannot see Matjaz or Roger | 21:48 |
| ianychoi | asettle, thanks a lot - I am still learning English in Docs team | 21:48 |
| jrobinson | That's the exact same etymology and origins pages I looked at :) 16th century satire writing. | 21:48 |
| asettle | ianychoi: meeee tooo buddy | 21:48 |
| ianychoi | haha :) | 21:48 |
| annegentle | hee hee | 21:48 |
| asettle | Anyway, I say we skip the rest of the reports, thanks annegentle :) | 21:49 |
| jrobinson | Moving onto the next topic then: | 21:49 |
| jrobinson | #topic Bug triaging | 21:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug triaging (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:49 | |
| asettle | Hooray! | 21:49 |
| asettle | Thanks to Chason for doing the last 2 weeks, did an awesome job :) | 21:50 |
| asettle | We moved the triagers up the list due to some gaps | 21:50 |
| jrobinson | +1 thank you Chason | 21:50 |
| asettle | Olena is up for this week | 21:50 |
| asettle | We still have a need for the last two weeks to be filled | 21:50 |
| asettle | If anyone can help on the 14 Aug - 28 Aug. Hit us up | 21:50 |
| asettle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams#Bug_Triage_Team | 21:50 |
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| asettle | Anyway, that's it for me there :) | 21:52 |
| jrobinson | onto Open Discussion | 21:52 |
| jrobinson | #topic Open Discussion | 21:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:52 | |
| asettle | Sorry for being late team :( I lost track of time. | 21:53 |
| annegentle | asettle no worries | 21:53 |
| annegentle | :) I had to drive in the middle of it anyway! | 21:53 |
| ianychoi | That's pretty fine | 21:53 |
| annegentle | no matter what | 21:53 |
| asettle | Also | 21:53 |
| asettle | Is everyone okay with the meeting time? | 21:53 |
| asettle | I feel like we are losing quite a few of our regulars because of the later time schedule | 21:53 |
| asettle | I know we've done this before. | 21:54 |
| asettle | But it's 10.55pm for me :/ | 21:54 |
| asettle | And nearly 5 in the US | 21:54 |
| annegentle | For me, today was just weird | 21:54 |
| annegentle | but yeah, it's getting super late for EU timeframe | 21:54 |
| ianychoi | Finding the best meeting time is not so easy.. | 21:54 |
| asettle | Super late :/ I know that's why Matjaz, Roger, Olena, Olga etc don't come... it's even later for them. And Andreas too | 21:55 |
| asettle | ianychoi: true | 21:55 |
| annegentle | I think the meeting channels may be easier to get earlier too | 21:55 |
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| annegentle | (used to be tough to find a meeting channel available, now it can be calculated with a handy script!) | 21:56 |
| asettle | Hmm look, lemme look into it. I'll email the ML again and see what's up. | 21:56 |
| asettle | Oooo | 21:56 |
| asettle | Ahhh | 21:56 |
| jrobinson | If we had to move it around, i'm okay to adapt to what works for the EU and US on this point. | 21:56 |
| asettle | Thanks jrobinson - what time is it for you now? 8am? | 21:56 |
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| jrobinson | yep, just about to hit 8am. | 21:57 |
| asettle | Cool - that isn't so bad then | 21:58 |
| annegentle | good morning, sunshin! | 21:58 |
| annegentle | sunshine even! Nothing to do with shins! | 21:58 |
| jrobinson | lol, glad the sun does not have shins though. | 21:58 |
| asettle | That would be well weird. | 21:58 |
| asettle | Okay - we got 2 minutes. | 21:58 |
| annegentle | hee | 21:59 |
| jrobinson | and, more importantly, thanks annegentle and good evening. | 21:59 |
| annegentle | jrobinson :) | 21:59 |
| asettle | THank you for hosting jrobinson ! | 21:59 |
| annegentle | have fun in Boston and pack a rain jacket! | 21:59 |
| ianychoi | Thank you all! | 21:59 |
| asettle | annegentle: oh yeah, I plan to | 22:00 |
| jrobinson | No worries at all :) | 22:00 |
| asettle | o/ night folks | 22:00 |
| asettle | Safe travels | 22:00 |
| jrobinson | And yes, I hope Boston is a good summit! | 22:00 |
| jrobinson | I'll close the meeting now. | 22:00 |
| jrobinson | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:00 | |
| asettle | Anyway.Thanks Joe! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 4 22:00:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-05-04-21.17.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-05-04-21.17.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-05-04-21.17.log.html | 22:00 |
| ianychoi | jrobinson, thanks a lot being a chair :) Have a good day! | 22:00 |
| jrobinson | np, :) thanks everyone | 22:00 |
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