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yottatsao/16:00
ashtokolovO/16:00
aglarendil\o16:00
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xarses#startmeeting fuel16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 14 16:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
maximovhi16:00
xarses#chair xarses16:00
xarsesTodays Agenda:16:00
xarses#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:00
xarsesWho's here?16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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monesterhi16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fuel'16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: xarses16:00
angdraughi all16:00
rmoe_hi16:00
ashtokolovHi16:00
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igorbelikovhi16:00
akislitsky_hi16:00
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xarseswelcome back, I hope every one had a good break16:00
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romcheg\o16:00
asvechnikov_hi16:01
mattymoxarses, we did. Thanks.16:01
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rvyalov_hi16:01
xarses#topic Action Items from last meeting16:01
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xarsesmonester and bookwar will work on getting the add reviewers by MAINTAINERS data script16:01
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monesterdone, https://ci.fuel-infra.org/job/auto-add-reviewers/16:01
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xarsesawesome!16:01
xarsespyzhov will announce changes in swarm-blocker tag16:01
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xarsesmoving on16:02
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xarses#topic ConfigDB description and status (ogelbukh, ytaraday)16:03
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xarsesmoving on16:04
xarses#topic Fuel 9.0 release schedule (angdraug) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/9.0_Release_Schedule16:04
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angdraugbefore Christmas, I've posted the release schedule for 9.0:16:05
angdraug#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082655.html16:05
angdraug#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/9.0_Release_Schedule16:05
angdraugthis is a transitional release that we use to realign our schedule with OpenStack releases16:05
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angdraugit's a tight one, basically we barely have time to implement Mitaka support16:06
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angdraugstarting with 10.0/n*, we'll have proper 6-month release cycle like the rest of OpenStack16:06
angdraugas I mentioned in my announcement, the biggest risk is external dependencies16:06
angdraugnamely packages and puppet-openstack16:07
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angdraugquestions?16:07
xarsespuppet-openstack should be ready ~ start of next week16:07
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xarsesso what if we need to push this?16:07
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angdraugxarses: what do you mean "push"?16:08
xarseswe find it's too aggressive and want to move it out?16:08
angdraugwe can shift the dates if we have to, but it will take time away from 10.0 development16:09
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xarsesok16:09
holser_o/16:09
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xarsesmoving?16:09
ashtokolovangdraug do we have any estimations about 10.0 release dates?16:10
angdraugone big heads up related to that is that we should point Puppetfile at puppet-openstack master HEAD16:10
angdraugashtokolov: with 10.0, we follow the OpenStack n* schedule16:10
angdraugyou can use https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule as an early indicator16:10
angdraugsame as with 9.0, we'll have HCF and a point release a month or two after n* release16:11
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ashtokolovangdraug Oct-Nov 2016?16:11
angdraugso probably some time around Dec 2016 we'll have something that we can recommend for production use16:11
ashtokolovI mean there is no 6 months between 9.0.1 and n* release16:11
holser_community? or downstream?16:11
angdraugas a reminder, HCF is a quality-based milestone, so it all depends on how stable it's going to be16:11
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angdraugholser_: 9.0.1 is a community release16:12
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angdraugdownstream, it's going to be used in MOS 9.0 GA16:12
angdraugashtokolov: yes, 6 months includes an overlap between stable/mitaka and master/n* development16:13
angdraugsame as now except most of dev cycle is not going to overlap like it is with 9.016:13
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angdraugdid I answer your questions?16:14
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ashtokolovangdraug, yes, I got it16:14
angdraugthanks, lets move on then16:14
ogelbukho/16:15
xarses#topic Telco Team Status (asvechnikov)16:15
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asvechnikov_Fuel Telco Team Status:16:15
asvechnikov_1. Primary activity is fixing of 8.0 bugs16:15
asvechnikov_  In progress: 616:15
asvechnikov_  Done: 1116:15
asvechnikov_That's all16:15
angdraugasvechnikov_: any work planned for 9.0?16:16
asvechnikov_angdraug: We are waiting managers desicion16:16
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angdraugI see16:16
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angdraugxarses: ogelbukh is back with us, back to his item maybe?16:18
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xarses#topic ConfigDB description and status (ogelbukh, ytaraday)16:18
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angdraugogelbukh: still with us?16:19
angdraughm, I thought on IRC "o/" means "hi", not "bye" :)16:20
ogelbukhyep16:20
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ogelbukhconfigdb is being developed as a PoC16:20
ogelbukhthe ETA is next week16:20
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angdraugdo you have a design spec?16:21
ogelbukhwe are in contact with solar team to define integration level and points16:21
ogelbukhonly in google docs yet16:21
angdrauggoogle doc is fine for a start if its publicly accessible16:21
ogelbukhwill move to LP/specs16:21
ogelbukhonce PoC is ready16:22
ogelbukhlet me check access and share the link16:23
angdraugthanks16:23
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xarses#topic Bugs team status (mmosesohn) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-bugs-status16:24
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mattymohi!16:24
mattymoSo, dpyzhov is unavailable, so I'm filling in for bugfix team status16:24
ogelbukhhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7nMOnSrmFhtMPhSWb8BJ48qtImmfUFemzNaNUmDvrY/edit?usp=sharing16:24
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mattymo(paste warning) I'm going to show some hard numbers on what's coming in and out for bugfixing in ui/python/library teams16:24
ogelbukhbtw Yuriy sent it to openstack-dev on Dec 2216:24
mattymoReal bugs (defects): Critical/high: 54(1/30/23) +25(3/7/15) -41(2/21/18). Medium/low: 54(4/49/1) +11(1/5/5) -10(1/2/7)16:25
mattymoFeatures tracked as bug reports: Critical/high: 35(0/33/2) +0(0/0/0) -2(0/1/1) Medium/low: 82(1/81/0) +1(0/0/1) -3(0/0/3)16:25
mattymoTechnical debt bugs: Critical/high: 3(0/3/0) +1(0/1/0) -3(0/1/2). Medium/low: 21(0/21/0) +6(0/0/6) -8(0/2/6)16:25
mattymoHigh priority defects on delivery teams: no-team: 5(5) +10(10) -9(9). team-bugfix: 30(30) +6(6) -24(24). team-enhancements: 8(8) +1(1) -1(1). team-network: 8(8) +2(2) -3(3). team-telco: 2(2) +2(2) -1(1). team-upgrades: 0(0) +1(1) -1(1)16:25
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mattymoBugs in other teams. Format: Total open(High) +Total income(High) -Total outcome(High)16:25
mattymoQA: 57(39) +18(16) -21(19). Docs: 171(40) +1(1) -0(0). Devops: 46(5) +16(4) -7(3)16:25
mattymoBuild: 2(2) +7(7) -8(8). CI: 75(38) +8(5) -8(6). Infra Apps: 5(0) +1(0) -0(0)16:25
mattymoMOS: 98(44) +21(17) -49(40). Partners: 7(6) +2(1) -2(2). Plugins: 4(1) +1(0) -0(0)16:25
mattymoExtra filters:16:25
mattymoSwarm blockers: 2(0/0/2) +2(0/0/2) -4(0/2/2) Customer found: 0(0/0/0) +0(0/0/0) -1(0/0/1)16:25
mattymoSecurity bugs: 1(0/1/0) +2(0/2/0) -1(0/0/1) Long haul testing: 0(0/0/0) +0(0/0/0) -0(0/0/0)16:25
mattymoAffects 7.0: 7(0/3/4) +0(0/0/0) -4(0/1/3) Regressions: 47(1/27/19) +25(3/7/15) -37(2/20/15)16:25
mattymoQA/Docs/Infra: 351(124) +50(33) -44(36)16:25
mattymoin general, at least in Fuel Library side, all bugs are getting confirmed and reproduced and investigated the same day. We've got a bit of a backlog on reviews mostly due to technical discussion16:26
angdraugogelbukh: it links to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bUS90ZQVVMw5okHzLFks0svLYjMGKxdGUbz87-0_MFA/edit -- please open that as well16:26
angdraugmattymo: we're still fixing Medium bugs?16:27
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mattymoon library side we're low on high bugs, so we've had a few cycles for tech debt cleanup.. there were 10 resolved medium/low bugs this week16:28
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angdraugI see that there's not that much of them, but as a reminder 8.0 is in SCF, please make sure that only High and Critical bugfixes are targeted to stable/8.016:28
mattymothey're going to master only, not stable/8.016:28
angdraugmattymo: makes sense, thanks for clarifying!16:28
mattymoAny questions?16:29
angdraugare you on track with clearing up swarm blockers, need help from other teams?16:29
mattymoWe've had some help from mpolenchuk and aschultz (ninja bugfixers), but in general, we're in great shape.16:29
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angdrauggood to know, thanks, no more questions from me16:30
xarses#topic UI Team status (vkramskikh)16:30
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vkramskikhHi! This week we worked on UI tech debt (moving to ES2015 syntax, upgrading testing framework and React, etc.), also solved the remaining 8.0 High bugs (2 of them are merged and 1 is in progress (https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1533179, planned to be fixed tomorrow)) and worked on moving UI part of Fuel WEB code to a separate repo.16:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1533179 in Fuel for OpenStack "Invalid checkboxes logic in Storage Backends" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Julia Aranovich (jkirnosova)16:31
vkramskikhSince Monday (January 18) we plan to switch to 9.0 features development.16:31
vkramskikhQuestions?16:31
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angdraugvkramskikh: same question as for telco team, what are your plans for 9.0?16:32
xarsesseems, no on the questions16:32
xarsesnm16:32
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vkramskikhwe have vendor code separation as our biggest feature and a lots of minor impovements16:32
vkramskikhwhich we'll try to deliver after we deal with the code separation16:33
vkramskikhwhich is the main priority16:33
angdraugit is indeed :)16:33
angdraugthanks16:33
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xarses#topic open discussion16:34
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xarsesthats the end of the agenda16:34
xarsesis there anything else to bring up?16:34
angdraugdidn't have that much time for open discussion in a while :)16:34
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xarsesotherwise we can wrap early16:35
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angdrauganyone's got stuck reviews, ideas, questions?16:35
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xarsessounds like its a wrap16:37
vkramskikha have a question about nova-network removal16:37
vkramskikhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/261229/16:37
xarsesok16:37
vkramskikhdo we still want to remove it in 8.0?16:37
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vkramskikhit could be a little late I think16:37
angdraugI think we should deprecate it properly first, and plan to remove in 9.016:38
xarsesui, maybe no16:38
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xarseserm16:38
xarsessorry, UI yes16:38
xarsesnetworkmanager, and data it needs no16:38
angdraugor that16:39
angdraugwe can drop it from UI, leave CLI possibility there, document in the relnotes that it's deprecated16:39
angdraughttp://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html16:40
xarses+116:40
angdraugwe don't follow this yet but I think we should at least try to stick to it16:40
angdraugvkramskikh: how much of an impact on UI would it be to drop it?16:41
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vkramskikhvery little. though AFAIU we need to drop only ability to create a new cluster with nova-network16:42
vkramskikhand keep all the other code to manage already deployed clusters16:42
angdraugsounds like more than a one-liner16:42
vkramskikhyep16:42
angdraugmaybe just add a deprecation notice to the strings?16:42
vkramskikhthey are here already16:42
vkramskikhsince 7.0 AFAIR16:43
vkramskikhhttp://demo.fuel-infra.org:8000/#clusters16:43
vkramskikhyes, since 7.016:43
angdraugwell, if it's more than a one-liner it would need an FFE, and we're very much too late for that (16:43
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angdrauglets remove it in master for 9.016:44
xarsesto remove it from the UI, it should just be some changes to the openstack.yaml for the wizard16:44
xarsesand we may need to update the jscript template for that wizard page16:45
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xarsesvery minor IMO16:45
vkramskikhyep https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261229/11/nailgun/nailgun/fixtures/openstack.yaml16:45
vkramskikhbut if you look at the change it seems it affects quite a lot of code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261229/1116:45
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vkramskikhthough it's mostly code removal16:45
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angdraug+19 -26516:46
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angdraug...and failed CI16:46
vkramskikhyep, it's still not ready16:47
vkramskikhthat's why I raised this topic16:47
angdraugholser_: ikalnitsky: thoughts?16:47
angdrauglooks to me that this is large enough to need an FFE16:47
vkramskikhpartner team takes care of this change, too bad they're not on this meeting16:47
angdraugthey should be :(16:48
xarseslets send out a message on the ML about this16:48
angdraugok, lets post an FFE for this and see what kind of objections and risks people come up with16:48
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xarsesvkramskikh, can you send it?16:48
vkramskikhxarses: ok16:49
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xarsesok anything else16:50
xarses#action vkramskikh will raise topic in ML about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261229/16:50
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xarsesok, lets wrap then16:50
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xarses#endmeeting16:51
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LukeHIs the SEC meeting on today?17:04
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wayward710I was wondering that myself17:07
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LukeHmaybe there is an event on?17:08
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wayward710Maybe the summit in Austin.  Can't remember when that was offhand.17:09
elmikoyea, the midcycle is happening, pretty sure ossp meeting is cancelled17:10
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wayward710ok thanks17:10
elmikosorry bout that17:10
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LukeHnot a problem, do you think it will be on next week elmiko?17:11
elmikoyes, definitely17:11
LukeHthx!17:11
elmikonp, sorry for the miscommunication17:11
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LukeHthats ok, i remember mid-cycle being the hot topic17:11
hyakuheiYeah sorry about not sending a meeting cancellation. My bad :)17:12
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LukeHay, no problem, i hardly broke a sweat alt'ing to the channel :)17:13
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LukeHsee you next week and enjoy austin17:13
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Ningno meeting today?18:22
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amitgandhinz#startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting19:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 14 19:01:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting'19:01
amitgandhinz#topic RollCall19:01
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cathRo/19:01
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samuelBartelo/19:03
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amitgandhinz#topic Recap Last Weeks Meeting19:05
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amitgandhinz#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy/2016/poppy.2016-01-07-19.01.html19:05
amitgandhinzlooks like we have no action items from last week to follow up on19:05
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amitgandhinz#topic Mitaka Progress19:06
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amitgandhinzlets start with samuelBartel on this one =)19:07
amitgandhinz#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/horizon19:07
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amitgandhinzsamuelBartel: i believe you wanted to discuss this bp?19:07
samuelBartelamitgandhinz, yes19:07
samuelBarteli understand there is no spec and repository actually19:07
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amitgandhinzwe havent defined much for the horizon integration yet19:08
samuelBartelok19:08
amitgandhinzbesides that we need to do it =p19:08
amitgandhinzis this something you are interested in helping with?19:08
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samuelBartelwe can define what are the feature that need to be display on horizon in priority19:08
samuelBartelyes19:08
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amitgandhinzone thing that may be helpful is to look at what is displayed on the Rackspace CDN control panel which uses the Poppy API19:09
amitgandhinzit might be a good starting point on what fields need to be displayed19:09
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samuelBartelyep it could be a good starting pint19:10
samuelBartelis it available without subscribtion?19:10
amitgandhinz@link https://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/create-a-rackspace-cdn-service19:10
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amitgandhinzsamuelBartel: you should be able to sign up (might need to enter a credit card), but if you dont create servers etc you shouldnt get charged for anything19:11
samuelBartelthanks, ok19:11
amitgandhinzor you could just read the knowledge center and look at the screen grabs in there for ideas19:11
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samuelBartelok19:12
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samuelBartelas discused, we could used invision to review design of the page19:12
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amitgandhinzi dont know how much it will translate to horizon's design patterns, but at the very least it should help you visualize the design elements19:13
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amitgandhinzyes i agree, once we have a design in invision we can then iterate on it19:13
amitgandhinzthen start building it after that19:13
samuelBartelok19:13
samuelBartelfor the repository part19:14
amitgandhinzif you want to start creating mocks and putting it in invision, then you can invite me to the project - amit.gandhi@rackspace.com19:14
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amitgandhinzwhere to horizon modules live?19:14
samuelBartelok will work on it19:14
samuelBartelyes19:14
amitgandhinzie are they in horizon, or do they live in the individual project repos? or in a seperate one?19:14
samuelBartela poppy-ui repository on openstack git19:14
amitgandhinzoh ok19:15
samuelBartelindividual project19:15
samuelBartelI can create it also if needed19:15
amitgandhinzyes please19:15
samuelBartelok19:16
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amitgandhinzfeel free to update that bp with more details as you find them19:17
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amitgandhinzadd the list of tasks etc you need to do (ie create repo, invision project, etc), so that we can discuss progress on it in these meetings19:17
samuelBartelyes will update it as soon as i will have identified  panel and workflow to implements19:17
samuelBartelok19:17
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amitgandhinzthank you =)19:17
samuelBartelyou are welcome19:18
amitgandhinzdo you currently have any more questions for the ui?19:18
samuelBartelnot for now19:18
amitgandhinzok.  feel free to ask at any time as you are working on it19:18
amitgandhinzand welcome to the team19:18
samuelBartelok thank you19:18
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amitgandhinzok, lets go through the blueprints we currently have19:19
amitgandhinz#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/mitaka19:19
amitgandhinz#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/analytics19:19
tonytan4everI think we can leave this one to good progress.19:20
amitgandhinzok, the stub code looks great so far19:20
amitgandhinzshould i reassign this bp to you tonytan4ever or to mkmad ?19:21
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tonytan4everYou can assign it to sriram19:21
amitgandhinzok, it is currently with sriram19:21
tonytan4everCool.19:21
amitgandhinzrelated to this we need reviews for the analytics drivers that pull the metrics from the various collection stores - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265924/19:22
amitgandhinzplease review19:22
tonytan4everSure19:22
amitgandhinz#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver19:23
amitgandhinztonytan4ever: ^19:23
tonytan4everThis one I would say it is in review,19:23
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tonytan4everthe retry-list patchsets are all out19:23
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amitgandhinzok.  we already marked this one as implemented, but i guess the retry enhancements are part of this19:24
amitgandhinzi will move it back to in review19:24
tonytan4everSounds good to me.19:24
mkmadamitgandhi: I am reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265924/19:25
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amitgandhinzsamuelBartel: i am going to reassign the horizon bp to you https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/horizon19:26
samuelBartelok19:27
amitgandhinzok, any other bp or bugs we need to discuss today?19:28
amitgandhinz#topic New Items19:29
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mkmadNothing from my side. Just have couple of code reviews and unit tests.19:29
amitgandhinzok19:29
amitgandhinzso i have on the agenda to discuss our steps for Big Tent19:29
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tonytan4everCool19:29
amitgandhinzbut, given that malini and sriram are not here, i am thinking to defer this conversation to next week19:30
tonytan4everYes, that would be better.19:30
mkmadSure.19:30
amitgandhinz#topic Open Discussion19:30
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amitgandhinzgreat19:30
amitgandhinzanything else anyone wants to discuss?19:31
mkmadNope.19:31
tonytan4everI am good here.19:31
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amitgandhinzok thanks everyone.  i am particularly excited about the horizon integration =)19:32
amitgandhinz#endmeeting19:32
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