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xarses#startmeeting fuel16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 29 16:01:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
xarses#chair xarses16:01
xarsesTodays Agenda:16:01
xarses#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:01
xarsesWho's here?16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fuel'16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: xarses16:01
evgenylhi16:01
jaranovichhi!16:01
rmoehi16:01
mwhahahahi16:01
xenolog13hi16:01
maximovhi16:01
warpchi!16:01
dpyzhovhi16:01
xarses#topic Action Items from last meeting:16:02
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xarsesmihgen will poke QA people to review fuel-devops and fuel-ostf16:02
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ikalnitskyo/16:02
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xarsesmike hasn't joined us, its late in Tokyo, so maybe he's sleeping16:03
xarsesteran will review IPv6 proposal on how it is gonna impact infra https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216787/16:03
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ashtokolovhi16:04
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xarsesok moving along then16:05
xarses#topic Upgrade team status (ogelbukh)16:05
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ogelbukhhi16:05
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ogelbukhfinishing bug fixing and sending fuel-octane package to mos7.0-updates tomorrow16:06
ogelbukhwe also started work on new version of upgrade integrated with nailgun and library16:06
ogelbukhyet in early stages16:06
ogelbukhplease review specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224302/16:07
ogelbukhalso working on some bugs upstream16:07
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xarsesogelbukh: how do we track what QA jobs are used to show octane testing for your release?16:08
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ogelbukhI'm not sure the QA jobs are running regularly for 7.016:09
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ogelbukhwe're doing tests manually at the moment, using tests submitted to fuel-qa16:09
nurlaogelbukh: we run jobs for os upgrades in swarm16:10
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nurlabut it doesn't work due upgrade master node issue, yesterday issue with master nodes upgrades was fixed16:11
nurlaso I think os upgrade job should work and give us results16:11
ogelbukhnurla: thanks, good to know16:11
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ogelbukhcould you send a link to those jobs, just in case?16:11
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xarsesok moving on16:12
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xarses#topic Bugs status (dpyzhov) http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/078035.html16:13
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nurlait is link to our private jenkins, I'll send it in email16:13
dpyzhovhi16:13
dpyzhovI've send the report to openstack-dev16:13
dpyzhovIn short16:13
dpyzhovOverall situation looks ok. We have manageable16:13
dpyzhovnumber of high priority bugs. Number of medium bugs is going down. It16:13
dpyzhovdoesn't look like we will fix all medium bugs by end of release but it16:13
dpyzhovseems to be acceptable. High priority technical debt is under control.16:13
dpyzhovFeatures backlog is huge and nobody expects that it will be closed by end16:13
dpyzhovof release.16:13
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xarsesdpyzhov: thanks, its excellent to see these numbers go down. It will feel great to get them closed finally16:14
dpyzhovno chance16:14
dpyzhovwe have constant income of high priority bugs16:14
mattymowhat's good is we're getting more test coverage in fuel-library and that should reduce the likelihood of regressions16:14
dpyzhovso I don't expect to get 0 in any field here16:15
xarsesoh, I know we are chasing 016:15
xarsesbut progress on mediums is important, and we where lacking there before16:15
mattymoour bugfix team is facing a lot of regressions created either in some feature work from previous release or by moving to librarian and old bugs are coming back16:15
dpyzhovActually there were not so many regressions16:15
dpyzhovactual regressions number is about 30 bugs16:16
xarsesmattymo: so do you see this as a gap in CI coverage?16:16
mattymoxarses, noop tests were to blame for most... there's a thread from bogdando about this16:16
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xarsesthanks16:17
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xarses#topic Multirack status (akasatkin)16:17
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akasatkinHi16:17
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akasatkinSSL is in good shape, ETA - end of this week (maybe rather optimistic)16:18
akasatkinNow we have estimates for QA part and test drafts for some stories.16:18
akasatkinProgress with merging of code for dynamic dhcp setup https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-dnsmasq,n,z is very slow (review is bottleneck).16:18
akasatkinProgress in Nailgun part is also slow as I'm the only Nailgun developer in our team and I have a number of parallel tasks.16:18
akasatkinOverally, status is yellow because of Nailgun which is a bottleneck currently.16:18
akasatkinThat's it.16:19
xarsesakasatkin: is there some thing we can do to get you help here?16:19
akasatkinwe hope to get some help from python devs.16:19
xarsesshould we assign some one?16:20
xarseswould that help?16:21
akasatkinif you have one, it would be great16:21
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xarsesok, I will try to find help16:21
xarsesmoving on.16:22
akasatkinthank you16:22
xarses#topic Enhancements Team Status (ashtokolov)16:22
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ashtokolovhi folks16:22
ashtokolovEnhancements weekly status: Inbox - 65(was 65), In progress - 14(was 13)16:22
ashtokolovOn review - 23(was 23), QA - 16(was 18), Done - 14(was 10)16:22
ashtokolovand 14(was 11) to be sorted with Product Management16:22
ashtokolovso Total: 146 (was 139) and Fix committed+Fix released = 30 (was 28)16:22
xarses#action xarses will look for additional reviewers to assign to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-dnsmasq,n,z work, python reviews are stalled16:23
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ashtokolovand also we are working on support of IP ranges for all networks in Nailgun16:23
xarsesmy personal pain, yay!16:23
ashtokolov:)16:24
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ashtokolovany questions?16:24
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xarsesanything to note in the stats? There is some complete + some new. Is the flow sill manageable?16:24
ashtokolovwe have an open backlog16:24
xarsesI know its never ending =/16:25
ashtokolovand each monday we re-prioritize our tasks16:25
ashtokolovwith our Products16:25
xarsesthanks16:25
ashtokolovplease fill free to mark new bug-feature requests with "feature" tag16:26
xarses#topic UI team status (jaranovich)16:26
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jaranovichHi16:26
jaranovichTthis week we have mostly switched from bugfix to feature development.16:26
jaranovichWe are actively developing the following blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/multirack-in-fuel-ui (green feature health) which inсludes several user stories for Fuel UI, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/segment-settings-tab-logically (green feature health) and16:26
jaranovichhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ip-ranges-for-all-networks-in-ui.16:26
jaranovichCorresponding specs are actively reviewed, bdudko is doing visual mockups and requests with appropriate code also exist.16:26
jaranovichFor now it seems, we able to deliver user stories planned for this 2nd iteration.16:26
jaranovichThat's it.16:26
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xarsesjaranovich: thanks16:27
xarses#topic Remove obsolete releases code in serializers and tests (and some other places)16:28
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xarseslooks like ogelbukh's color maybe16:29
ikalnitskyogelbukh: around ?16:29
ogelbukhit is16:29
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ogelbukhikalnitsky: o/16:29
ikalnitskywill you describe your concerns?16:29
ogelbukhthe reason I'm asking is because I want to reuse pending_release_id parameter in cluster model16:30
ogelbukhit is created and used for (obsolete) patching feature which I want to remove16:30
ikalnitskyyep16:31
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ogelbukhor partially replace16:31
ikalnitskyit must gone from our code base16:31
ogelbukhbut I've seen lots of 5.x stuff here and there16:31
xarsesI think just file a bug for it and describe problem areas a little more detailed and if you see it start removing it16:32
ogelbukhwhen tried to set openstack_version to different values :)16:32
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xarsesI thin every one is +1 to removing dead code16:32
ogelbukhxarses: sounds like a plan16:32
xarsess/thin/think16:32
ogelbukhOK, will start there and continue if have spare time16:32
ikalnitskybut we need to establish some policy (if we don't have one)16:32
ogelbukhseems like we don't16:32
ikalnitskyhow long we should support old releases?16:32
ikalnitskyone release/year? two?16:33
ogelbukhI don't think that it's about support, in fact16:33
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ikalnitskybut if we remove 5.x serializers, users won't be able to manage their old envs16:33
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ogelbukhwe only 'support' current release16:33
ogelbukhbecause others are unavailable/non-deployable16:33
ikalnitskybut we allow to manage (add/remove nodes) to old ones16:33
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ogelbukhthere's backwards compatibility break between 5.1.1 and 6.016:34
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ogelbukh5.1.1 stored modules under /etc/puppet/modules, while 6.0 introduces /etc/puppet/${version}/modules notation16:34
ogelbukh(same for manifests/)16:34
ikalnitskythat's why we have a plenty of hacks16:34
ikalnitskyin fuel_upgrade script16:35
xarsesI think we answered the how long question before, we need to deprecate in release and then remove in a following release, but we still need a bug to discuss this further16:35
ogelbukhyes, we need one16:35
ogelbukhmaybe blueprint even16:35
ikalnitskyif we're talking about removing old serializers- i think bug is ok16:35
ogelbukhI will create something16:35
ikalnitskyogelbukh: thanks16:36
xarsesthanks16:36
ogelbukhcould move one16:36
ogelbukh*move on16:36
xarses#topic Config data processing system discussion (ogelbukh)16:36
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ogelbukhokay, that's another topic that we're going to discuss offline16:36
ogelbukhbut I wanted to give a heads up on it16:36
ogelbukhwe have ML thread about this16:36
xarseslink?16:37
ogelbukhthe main idea is to replace/wrap serializers we now have so we could manage metadata used by components in more dynamic manner16:37
ogelbukh#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077286.html16:38
xarsesok thanks16:39
xarses#topic Open discussion16:39
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xarsesany other items to raise before closing the meeting?16:39
ogelbukhnot from my side16:40
xarsesok thanks all16:40
xarses#endmeeting16:40
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sriram#startmeeting poppy19:35
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 29 19:35:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sriram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:35
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:35
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'poppy'19:35
sriramHey All, most of the team is in tokyo for the openstack summit.19:35
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sriramso lets skip this meeting, we should be back in full force next week ;)19:36
sriramtill next time!19:36
sriram#endmeeting poppy19:36
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