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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 14:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| sgordon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:01 | |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:01 |
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| * sgordon here | 14:01 | |
| aveiga | hello | 14:01 |
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| cloudon | hi | 14:01 |
| bryan_att | hello | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | #topic OpenStack Summit Tokyo | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Summit Tokyo (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:02 | |
| sgordon | just an FYI here | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #info Working session confirmed Tuesday 2:00 - 2:40 | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/b060647ccd40868b30ef2ab5cab76fda#.VfAyOLOf5ak | 14:02 |
| sgordon | i have a confirmed 40 minute slot with a ~30 person room and it is listed on the schedule as of yesterday | 14:03 |
| sgordon | so for those of you keenly putting your schedules together for the event it is there ;) | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | #topic Volunteers for turning use cases into RFEs / backlog specs (Neutron / Nova) respectively | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Volunteers for turning use cases into RFEs / backlog specs (Neutron / Nova) respectively (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:04 | |
| sgordon | this is picking up something we discussed in an earlier meeting but i dont believe we got owners for | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info Taking BGP use case as a "guinea pig" to turn into RFEs/backlog | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info Taking Affinity gap from the IMS use case and doing same | 14:04 |
| sgordon | i can probably take the latter | 14:04 |
| cloudon | was going to suggest I could take it as it's mine, but you'll have better visibility into th eprocess | 14:05 |
| sgordon | there is actually already a spec proposing soft affinity, and a broader spec proposal from jay about reworking server groups entirely | 14:05 |
| sgordon | i think defining a more use case focused backlog spec might actually help them drive an implementation that meets the real need best | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | #action sgordon to write backlog spec for affinity gap from the IMS use case, bounce off cloudon for review/clarity :) | 14:05 |
| cloudon | cool - happy to help in whatever way I can | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, np i will reach out if/when i need to confirm some details and provide a link to the submission as well | 14:06 |
| sgordon | so that leaves us with the BGP one | 14:06 |
| sgordon | i should add that we probably also might want to merge the use cases to kick this off... | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/179142 | 14:07 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/171680 | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | aveiga, any chance you could take a look at either of those? | 14:07 |
| sgordon | (just from a review perspective) | 14:07 |
| aveiga | sgordon: will do | 14:07 |
| sgordon | ta | 14:08 |
| sgordon | if there is no lucky volunteer w.r.t. BGP use case i will reach out to mathieu and see if he is willing/able to own the next step | 14:08 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to reach out to Mathieu (owner of BGP submission) about next steps. | 14:09 |
| sgordon | #topic Reviews | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/telcowg-usecases,n,z | 14:09 |
| sgordon | that discussion bleeds into the normal review discussion | 14:09 |
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| cloudon | thanks for sorting out the SBC/IMS git gotchas | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | but basically i want to get a few more of these merged so that we can see how they feed into product wg/rfes/backlogs | 14:09 |
| sgordon | cloudon, np :) | 14:10 |
| cloudon | now just need some magic +2s... | 14:10 |
| sgordon | as cloudon notes there were some issues with the vIMS/SBC use case submissions that needed some git magic (incorrect dependency and a file accidentally included in the wrong one) but they should be resolved now | 14:10 |
| sgordon | im guessing we dont have ralf/mathieu/dan to discuss the ones that need some iteration | 14:12 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:14 |
| sgordon | let's call it for now | 14:14 |
| sgordon | i will attempt to handle the vIMS gap and hopefully we can use that to guide others on how to pitch in with those next steps | 14:15 |
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| cloudon | ok, thanks | 14:15 |
| sgordon | once we have sounded that out we can also possibly look at how we help e.g. OPNFV use cases make their way in through a similar pipeline | 14:16 |
| aveiga | thanks, sgordon | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | np | 14:16 |
| sgordon | thanks all for your time | 14:16 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 14:16:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-09-14.01.html | 14:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-09-14.01.txt | 14:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-09-09-14.01.log.html | 14:16 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2 folks | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | its time for our meeting | 16:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 16:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 16:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_Sept_9.2C_2015 | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | I got couple of them | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Liberty-3 release content - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | and, also Liberty RC1 is in the works | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | here is the content for it - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Does anybody have any other announcement? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | moving on then - | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 late-cycle sprint | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I sent out the announcement yesterday | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I hope you saw it - | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073927.html | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | I also updated the etherpad a bit to make it bit clear | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like we have an additional person who is interested in helping out | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | saw that | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody here has any questions about it? | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: any feedback? | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | notice looks good, I’m booking my travel as we speak | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | good - | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Mitaka Design Summit proposals | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | I added this to the agenda so that we can kick off the discussion on this subject | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | We should discuss about what topics do we want present at the summit? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | I was going to add two topics to the list - but, thought first discuss it here | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | 1) ML2 Sync framework | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | agreed on 1) | 16:10 |
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| yamahata | +1 for 1) | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | 2) ML2 API for Security Groups | 16:11 |
| rkukura | +1 on 2) as long as someone puts together a reasonably concrete proposal to discuss | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | for 2) yamahata was going to do some investigation - I thought we add to the list and then continue to discuss it here and solidify | 16:12 |
| rkukura | makes sense to me | 16:12 |
| yamahata | It's yamamoto. not me. | 16:12 |
| yamahata | But I'd like to see 2). | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: I am bad with names, please excuse me | 16:13 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: np. quite common. | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto is not here it seems like | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | I can articulate the topic on the ehterpad - but. we need some meat behind the details | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | Can you think of any other topic that is of interest ? | 16:15 |
| yamahata | dynamic provider network | 16:15 |
| * yamahata looking for launchpad link | 16:15 | |
| Sukhdev | I think I saw it on the etherpad | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | or something similar | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: can you elaborate? | 16:16 |
| yamahata | allow dynamically change phy<->bridge mapping. | 16:16 |
| yamahata | It was originally proposed by HP. | 16:16 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Is this the proposal to store these sorts of mappings in the DB with an API for admins? | 16:17 |
| yamahata | Actually I need only the central place to store bridge mapping to consume. | 16:17 |
| yamahata | rkukura: Yes. | 16:17 |
| yamahata | I don't need dyanamic part though. | 16:18 |
| rkukura | I wonder if this should somehow be related to the topology service? | 16:18 |
| rkukura | It deals with hosts and what physical networks those hosts are connected to. | 16:19 |
| yamahata | Yes, it's related. Its scope is limited. | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | I wonder if this is just a BP/RFE or deceives a session in design summit? | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | thoughts? | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | I think its worth proposing a design session | 16:22 |
| yamahata | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration | 16:23 |
| yamahata | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration | 16:23 |
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| yamahata | I found the links | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-segment-configuration | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: thanks | 16:24 |
| rkukura | yamahata: I think that one deals with the segmentation_id allocaiton ranges, which are global. But the mappings are host-specific. If we do both, coordination makes sense. | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | this is interesting - and useful as well - however, can't this be done by having a new type driver? | 16:27 |
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| yamahata | Regarding to the implementation, yes. But we need rest api. | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: It could, maybe ones derived from the existing config-based type drivers. The REST API could be packaged as a service plugin. | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: understood | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | But the physical_network<->bridge mapping yamahata brought up is specific to the mechanism drivers rather than the type drivers I think. | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | these two seem orthogonal | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | one related to segmentation management and other mapping management, no? | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Mostly, but potentially similar implementation approaches, and both probably need to know about what physical_networks exist. | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | got it | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | So, if we think this should be brought up at the design summit - this may not get a full topic -but, this could go into one of those flash sessions | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | I forgot what is it called, where you package 5 - 6 topics in one session | 16:34 |
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| yamahata | lightening talk? | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | does it make sense? | 16:35 |
| yamahata | Yep | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: yes - thanks | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | It might make sense to combine the allocation range, mapping, and topology stuff all into one session | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: I am afraid topology guys are in their own little land :-) | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: maybe, but not sure if they need a full session | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: if they are at the sprint, we can discuss it there | 16:37 |
| rkukura | +1 | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: how do we track this until then? | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | shall we add it to the ehterpad for now? | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I don’t see why not | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you want to take an action to add it to the etherpad? | 16:38 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: sure will do. | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | I will add the ML2 sync to the etherpad | 16:39 |
| rkukura | I missed the past couple neutron IRC meetings, so am not sure if there are specific directions from mestery on this etherpad | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I missed this week's meeting - mestery posted the ehterpad on the ML | 16:39 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: OK. I’ll read the meeting logs when I get a chance anyway. | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: thanks | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else we can think about? | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | for Mitaka cycle? | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - moving on then | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | I do not see authors for next three topics on the agenda | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | so, I am thinking we skip those | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has any objection - or want to discuss any of those topics | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | no objection from me | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: how about you? | 16:43 |
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| yamahata | we can skip those. | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | cool - that leads to the last one (fun part :-)) | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | Are you guys going to Tokoyo next week? | 16:44 |
| rkukura | next week? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | \ | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | ] | 16:45 |
| yamahata | next? no. | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | I meant month - sorry | 16:45 |
| rkukura | planning to - need to book my flights still | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: oh how come? | 16:45 |
| yamahata | I'm coming. | 16:46 |
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| yamahata | :-) | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: ah ha - looks like next week confused you - sorry about that :-) | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | I plan on staying a week after the summit for sight seeing | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | I am visiting Tokyo after 20+ years | 16:47 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Its been about that long for me too | 16:47 |
| rkukura | But I’ll just be there the summit week | 16:47 |
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| yamahata | There are many places to visit. and the autum is best season for sight seeing. | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | I thought I travel through south part of Japan after the summit - | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: any recommendations? | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: I was looking at the organized 3 day trips - but. have not decided yet | 16:49 |
| yamahata | 3 days? | 16:49 |
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| yamahata | The easiest recomendation is to visito Kyoto. | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | I actually have 7 days after summit - I thought I do two 3-days trips | 16:49 |
| yamahata | It's traditional japanease. templese shrines. | 16:50 |
| yamahata | If you prefer to be around Tokyo area, | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | yes, one of the 3-day trip is Hiroshima and Kyoto | 16:50 |
| yamahata | Ueno, Akihabara ... | 16:50 |
| yamahata | Hiroshima is also good place. | 16:50 |
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| Sukhdev | Ueno - did not know about it - will check it out | 16:51 |
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| yamahata | asakusa | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | Akihabra is for all the electronic shopping, right? | 16:51 |
| yamahata | Right. and also japanease manga/animation | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks - will check into this | 16:52 |
| yamahata | Recently Akihabara has become Otaku town. | 16:52 |
| yamahata | like Maid kissa | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | what is Maid Kissa? have never heard about it? | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | looks like I have lots of home work to do :-) | 16:53 |
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| yamahata | lol | 16:53 |
| yamahata | If you like cosplay, maid coffe would be suitable for you. | 16:54 |
| yamahata | cafe | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: you are throwing all these words that I have never heard before :) what is cosplay? | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | maid cafe - is this some place in Akihabra? | 16:55 |
| yamahata | cosplay is to wear costume for manga/anime character. | 16:56 |
| yamahata | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_caf%C3%A9 | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | oh I see - interesting!! | 16:56 |
| yamahata | some likes it, some don't | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | I guess I have not scratched the surface yet !!! | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | Have to get the Liberty out - once done, guess I have to go consult Google uncle :-):-) | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | anyhow thanks yamahata for all the tips | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | we need to free up this channel for next meeting | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks folks for attending today's meeitng | 16:58 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | hey Sukhdev! | 16:58 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:58 |
| yamahata | bye | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | mlavalle: hey | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | Sukhdev: going to Tokyo? | 16:58 |
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| Sukhdev | mlavalle: switching to private channel - have to leave this channel for next meeting | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks folks | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 16:59:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-09-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-09-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-09-09-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 16:59:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
| Kiall | Hey folks - whos about? | 16:59 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:00 |
| elarson | o> | 17:00 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:00 |
| pglass | o/ | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | ahoy | 17:00 |
| ekarlso | oii | 17:00 |
| Kiall | Okay, let's get going :) | 17:00 |
| Kiall | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | L3 is out :) | 17:01 |
| Kiall | That's it from me ;) Anyone else? | 17:01 |
| Kiall | Guess not :) | 17:01 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | No actions from last week - but timsim there's some stable/kilo backports in need of +A from a week or two ago | 17:01 |
| Kiall | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | over to you timsim :) | 17:02 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1487934 | 17:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487934 in Designate "500 error returned in List Records in a Domain" [High,New] | 17:02 |
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| timsim | Might just need "triaged"? | 17:02 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:02 |
| mugsie | Kiall: must have missed it last week :P | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Yea, I missed that.. whoops. | 17:03 |
| timsim | np | 17:03 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1491248 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491248 in Designate "Record is not deleted after terminating a VM+duplicate records " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:03 |
| mugsie | same | 17:03 |
| timsim | Assigned to mugsie, I assume for verification? | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Looks like it might be awkward to reproduce, anyone will to take a stab? (re the first) | 17:03 |
| mugsie | timsim: yeah, thats on me for verification | 17:03 |
| mugsie | for 1487934 - I am not sure how we would repro | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | I'll take a stab at repo on 1487934 | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to validate 1487934 | 17:05 |
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| elarson | while True: create(); list(); delete() | 17:05 |
| Kiall | elarson: yea, that's what I was thinking ;) | 17:05 |
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| timsim | Alright, I'll assign that to you. | 17:05 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1491348 | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491348 in Designate "sql DB is not updated after record creation " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:06 |
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| timsim | Same, assigned for verification? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | i think it is related to 1491248 | 17:06 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:06 |
| timsim | Ok, I'll leave those as new until we get some movement | 17:06 |
| Kiall | #action mugsie to validate 1491248 and 1491348 | 17:06 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1491981 | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491981 in Designate "Using workers > 1 in mdns and the agent breaks the service " [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
| mugsie | High, RC1 | 17:07 |
| mugsie | or critical even | 17:07 |
| Kiall | ++ to critical.. elarson how far did you get debugging it? | 17:07 |
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| elarson | Kiall: I was able to reproduce it with mdns and the agent | 17:07 |
| elarson | and then james_li found a similar problem solved with glance | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Any clues to a fix? I see james_li left something about socket.bind() vs eventlet.listen() | 17:08 |
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| elarson | yeah, I think that is the fix | 17:08 |
| timsim | Could you add the repro instructions to the bug elarson | 17:08 |
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| elarson | timsim: yeah | 17:08 |
| timsim | Cool. I'll go Critical RC1 | 17:08 |
| Kiall | K - Leave it with you fr now elarson? | 17:08 |
| Kiall | for* | 17:08 |
| Kiall | will take that as a yes ;) Any others timsim? | 17:10 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1493001 | 17:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493001 in Designate "Designate_plugin for NSD4 backend not found for devstack environment." [Undecided,New] | 17:10 |
| elarson | sounds good | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | low - triaged - no milestone | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Yea, we don't have a NSD devstack plugin | 17:11 |
| timsim | Might be a blueprint later. | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Yea, exactly.. | 17:11 |
| timsim | <mugsie> low - triaged | 17:11 |
| timsim | ...wut | 17:11 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1493035 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493035 in Designate "FloaotingIP entry is not removed after VM delete" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | assign to me | 17:11 |
| Kiall | #action mugsie to validate 1493035 | 17:12 |
| mugsie | and high - i think its related to the other 2 | 17:12 |
| timsim | k | 17:12 |
| timsim | That's all :) | 17:12 |
| mugsie | (i have a sneaking suspission that they are all related to a misconfig) | 17:12 |
| Kiall | K :) | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | Panic - Haven't done my bp triage paste .. 2 sec | 17:13 |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/452795/ | 17:14 |
| Kiall | honestly, none.. other than maybe - 21a7db8 Merge "The address for cloning designate is corrected" | 17:15 |
| Kiall | (a README.md update..) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | i say none | 17:15 |
| timsim | Yeah, none. | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | Simples.. | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Moving on :) | 17:16 |
| Kiall | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | mlavalle: hows Neutron treating you? | 17:16 |
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| mlavalle | so I've been busy finishing the functionality for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | patchset I pushed last night has all the functionallity to publish floating ips to designate | 17:17 |
| mlavalle | today I will create the allembic script to migrate the database | 17:17 |
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| Kiall | Cool, it looks like it's starting to make progress - I'm taking a guess it's not going to see much in the way of review before the M cycle starts? | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | at that point I will be able to deploy the code to a devstack instance and start creating and updating neutron floating ips and published to designate | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | so, if everything goes well, by the second half of next week we will have full floating ips functionality | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | I'm getting reviews..... | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Cool :) | 17:19 |
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| mlavalle | the chellenge is that I don't think designate is part of the Neutron tests in the gate | 17:19 |
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| mlavalle | so i'll need to work on that if we want to merge this soon | 17:20 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: Ah, okat.. Any clue who handles Neutron CI stuff? Anyone specific other than the openstack-infra team? | 17:20 |
| Kiall | I'm thinking maybe sdague | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: I don't know the details... but i'll find out | 17:20 |
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| mlavalle | so overall, making solid progress | 17:21 |
| Kiall | from a technical POV, I know how to make it happen.. from a policy POV, not sure :) | 17:21 |
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| mlavalle | that's my report for this week | 17:22 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: I've had some conversations with Sean (I think it was sean anyway) around designate+devstack proper - I'll kick off a email thread between the three of us to figureit out. | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: perfect, that helps a lot | 17:22 |
| Kiall | Okay, Thanks mlavalle :) Awesome to see things come along so fast :) | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Moving on so :) | 17:23 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: add carl_baldwin to the email to sdague | 17:23 |
| Kiall | WIll do. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | #topic Liberty RC1 Release | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 17:23 |
| * mlavalle going to a F2F meeting | 17:23 | |
| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 17:23 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: thanks! | 17:23 |
| Kiall | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate_2015_summer_midcycle_meetup_mcycle | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | RC1 is Sept 21-25th ish | 17:23 |
| Kiall | https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 shows some outstanding stuff, including some I filed today based on mid-cycle discussions. | 17:24 |
| Kiall | First up .. What's missing that we thought needed to be in L? | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | eriodic Purge of Deleted Domains - just moved to implemented - landed yesterday. | 17:25 |
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| Kiall | Nobody? :) | 17:26 |
| timsim | looking.. | 17:26 |
| timsim | ALIAS records? | 17:26 |
| Kiall | If memory services, we said M for that | 17:27 |
| Kiall | serves me* | 17:27 |
| Kiall | (can you tell I type services too often? ;)) | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Notes on L vs M from mid-cycle https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate_2015_summer_midcycle_meetup_mcycle | 17:27 |
| elarson | yeah, ALIAS was for M | 17:27 |
| timsim | ok. How about "Fix zone-manager enabled tasks + sharding combination (need to file a bug..)" ? | 17:28 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to file High+RC1 bugs for1) Fix multiple central + TLD caching issues...(need to file a bug for this) and 2) Fix zone-manager enabled tasks + sharding combination (need to file a bug..) | 17:28 |
| timsim | +1 | 17:28 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:28 |
| Kiall | timsim: lol, I just spotted those! They certainly need fixes before we cut L | 17:28 |
| mugsie | RC1 is pretty ful as it is | 17:28 |
| Kiall | Well, my next Q is .. Do we push anything? ;) | 17:29 |
| mugsie | #1411717Service Fixture in Unit Tests Does not Stop Service | 17:29 |
| mugsie | #1437495 sink documenation should explain usage alongside ceilometer | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Ideally, we have code landed by next weeks meet for anything. I'm going to get Pool Config -> DB up over the weekend | 17:29 |
| mugsie | #1442699 Add admin endpoint to the list of versions | 17:30 |
| Kiall | mugsie: are these push items? | 17:30 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:30 |
| mugsie | #1459554 X-Auth-Sudo-Tenant-ID header not work for create subdomains | 17:30 |
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| mugsie | there is no way in hell we are getting that list done | 17:30 |
| timsim | Yeah there's definitely going to be some stuff pushed there | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Yea, bugs have more time :) About 1 month till release release | 17:31 |
| mugsie | ^ are low impact, and potential time sinks | 17:31 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: agreed on your list BTW | 17:31 |
| mugsie | and #1442141 designate-api Throws Error on stop() | 17:32 |
| mugsie | i know ^ is really annoying, but that is a rats nest of eventlet vs oslo.service | 17:32 |
| Kiall | I'd really really really like to find the cause of that.. It's harmless near as I can tell, but looks AWFUL. | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | basically, from discussions with glance, we use service + eventlet wrong | 17:32 |
| mugsie | (everytime I go to look at it, I end flying somewhere, and forget everything) | 17:33 |
| Kiall | mugsie were you going to try and get Pools Scheduler in? (trying to remember) | 17:33 |
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| mugsie | yeah. we have to | 17:33 |
| mugsie | and the DB | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Yea, my weekend is consumed by DB one | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | Okay, So, thoughts from folks on mugsie list? | 17:34 |
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| timsim | I agree with them. | 17:35 |
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| elarson | +1 | 17:35 |
| Kiall | removing the MS from them now | 17:35 |
| Kiall | refresh https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Thoughts on what's left? | 17:36 |
| mugsie | #1412977 RPC code overrides a private method of Oslo's Dispatcher class <- How bad is this one really? | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Harmless, not going to hurt us in L - Pushing. | 17:37 |
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| Kiall | It's annoying the oslo folks rather than us, but at this point in the release, they won't be removing that private symbol in L | 17:37 |
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| mugsie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1432839 | 17:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432839 in Designate "Calling find_domain in any v1 operation is sub-optimal" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson) | 17:37 |
| mugsie | push | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Yea, I agree.. others? | 17:38 |
| timsim | agreed | 17:38 |
| Kiall | (others = other peoples thoughs?) | 17:38 |
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| Kiall | #1474012 - that's actually a "big" one | 17:39 |
| Kiall | bug 1474012 | 17:39 |
| openstack | bug 1474012 in Designate "Incorrect length limit for TXT record data" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474012 | 17:39 |
| Kiall | It's about allowing TXT records to be a list of 255 char strings, rather than just 1 255 char string | 17:40 |
| Kiall | Which is going to be awkward to fit into the API | 17:40 |
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| mugsie | i think that should be part of the structured data api | 17:40 |
| Kiall | mugsie: possibly - but L or not is the Q? ;) | 17:41 |
| mugsie | and then chop + concat the string for the normal API | 17:41 |
| mugsie | well, strructuired data is M | 17:41 |
| mugsie | so, i say M | 17:41 |
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| Kiall | Any objections? | 17:41 |
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| timsim | Nah, that's fine | 17:42 |
| elarson | +1 | 17:42 |
| Kiall | Okay - I think that's about it so? If folks can concentrate on stuff in this list, and obv finding+filing more bugs ;) | 17:42 |
| timsim | pglass just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1493942 | 17:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493942 in Designate "API returns incorrect response when a pool has multiple ns records" [Undecided,New] | 17:43 |
| mugsie | nope. I want to do private pools tomorrow :) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | wha? | 17:43 |
| mugsie | (jkj) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:44 |
| Kiall | Okay .. Moving o! | 17:44 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:44 |
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| Kiall | 15 mins before trove come at us with pitchforks.. Any other topics? | 17:44 |
| mugsie | timsim: thats a wierd onew | 17:44 |
| mugsie | is that only when they have the same priority>? | 17:44 |
| timsim | pglass ^ | 17:44 |
| pglass | let me check... | 17:44 |
| Kiall | Yea, that bug looks really weird! | 17:45 |
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| pglass | no, it happens even if the priorities are different | 17:45 |
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| Kiall | Heh, Anyone able to dig into that one? | 17:46 |
| Kiall | Kinda looks like something we might want to fix | 17:46 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:46 |
| timsim | One of us over here will take a peek. | 17:47 |
| Kiall | timsim: cool, thanks. Marking RC1 so it's not lost on us. | 17:47 |
| timsim | cool | 17:47 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anything else, or call it a day? | 17:48 |
| timsim | I don't have anything :) | 17:48 |
| timsim | Sorry for vacationing right around l3 :P | 17:48 |
| elarson | just a FYI, I started working on the ALIAS stuff | 17:48 |
| Kiall | timsim: unacceptable ;) | 17:48 |
| elarson | I'll plan on updating the spec if necessary | 17:49 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:49 |
| Kiall | elarson: cool! Looking forward to that one :) | 17:49 |
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| mugsie | elarson: jmcbride didn;t want to write the code? | 17:49 |
| elarson | mugsie: oh no, he did! just way too busy | 17:49 |
| elarson | ;) | 17:49 |
| elarson | managers got to manage | 17:50 |
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| * elarson needs to grab some food | 17:50 | |
| * timsim is also very hungry | 17:50 | |
| Kiall | Okay, calling it folks :) | 17:50 |
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| Kiall | Thanks! | 17:51 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 17:51:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.txt | 17:51 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.log.html | 17:51 |
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| amrith | hello, testing, 1, 2, 3. | 17:59 |
| mvandijk | *cough* | 18:00 |
| cp16net | bueller? | 18:00 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:00 |
| amrith | is there anybody, out there | 18:00 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:00 |
| pmalik | [:-|] | 18:01 |
| ashleigh | beep boop | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #startmeetin | 18:01 |
| amrith | just nod if you can hear me | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #startmeeting | 18:01 |
| openstack | SlickNik: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:01 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 18:01:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | there we go :) | 18:01 |
| ashleigh | yay. | 18:01 |
| peterstac | hi all | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | hello all! | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | giving folks a couple of minutes to trickle in. | 18:02 |
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| dloi | o/ | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
| schang | o/ | 18:03 |
| cp16net | hello everyone | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | Meeting agenda at: | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Trove_Meeting.2C_Sept_9.2C_2015 | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | Lots more reviews last week — awesome, given that it was the week of the Liberty-3 cut when we had to get our Liberty-3 features merged. | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | We did run into all sorts of gate issues this week — including changes to the nova-API which caused our gate to break. | 18:08 |
| amrith | SlickNik, we had some discussions about the pulse update at mid-cycle. I had an action item to catch you up on that ahead of this meeting and I just realized that I didn't follow up on that. Will find notes on that conversation and send you links. | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: sounds good — will follow up with you regarding it after the meeting. | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | Any other questions regarding reviews? | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | In not let's move to taking a look at the current state of Liberty (RC1) | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | #topic State of Liberty (RC1) | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | Good news is that all of the reviews relating to the Feature Freeze Exceptions that we've had to take have now merged at this point. | 18:14 |
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| cp16net | i just want to say awesome job across the board from everyone that it doesnt look like we have any issues with trove master after all the merges we did | 18:14 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, I do have a concern about the horizon changes | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | nice job cp16net getting the gate issues figured out. | 18:15 |
| peterstac | I noticed that none of the Cassandra stuff made it in - do we still want that for Liberty? | 18:15 |
| amrith | the comment says that they are -2'ed because of FF for liberty | 18:15 |
| peterstac | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveLibertyPriorities | 18:15 |
| amrith | and will open for MickeyMouse or whatever it is called now | 18:15 |
| amrith | that doesn't seem right to me | 18:16 |
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| peterstac | Yeah, looks like the Horizon stuff won't be in Liberty | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: right now horizon is under Feature Freeze, so any new Feature related changes won't merge in Liberty. | 18:17 |
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| amrith | so our FFE doesn't extend to Horizon | 18:18 |
| amrith | unfortunate ... | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | If we want to merge a horizon change in Liberty, we need to get an exception — which means sending a FFE request on the mailing list to the release mgmt team and david-lyle. | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: Yes, the horizon PTL along with the release mgmt team manages FFEs for their project separately. | 18:19 |
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| amrith | ok | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | So as far as the state of the current gate goes. | 18:21 |
| peterstac | SlickNik, wrt Cassandra - do we want FFE's for that work? | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: speaking to the release team, we didn't specifically get FFEs for those changes. Talking to cp16net, it seemed like we were okay punting that to Mitaka. | 18:22 |
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| peterstac | Ok, just checking | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | So we ended up moving the BPs to the M release. | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | we didnt have objections on that last time | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | unless things have changed | 18:25 |
| pmalik | @SlickNik That's OK. Would be great if we could make sure it merges soon into the M-cycle... | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: When we cut RC is when M opens for check-in. So we could merge the changes as soon as we cut the Liberty RC. | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | (in the next couple of weeks) | 18:26 |
| pmalik | @SlickNik Sounds good. :-) | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | Speaking of the Liberty RC — I've triaged the bugs that I know folks have been working on into Liberty-RC1 | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | If there are other bugs that you're working on for Liberty which are not in the list, please target them to RC1 | 18:28 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, any other questions regarding RC1? | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | Anyone have anything for open discussion? | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | SlickNik: we need get this patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221539/ | 18:32 |
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| SlickNik | Yup, I'll try and reach out to the stable-branch folks as soon as this meeting is done. | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | I think that's the last of the patches that are needed for the gate issues, right? | 18:34 |
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| cp16net | yeah then we can reenable the gate | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | Hopefully we can get that merged in the next few minutes. | 18:35 |
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| SlickNik | Anything else? | 18:36 |
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| SlickNik | Alright, that's all folks! | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | You can have some of your time back. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 18:37:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-09-18.01.html | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-09-18.01.txt | 18:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-09-09-18.01.log.html | 18:38 |
| cp16net | thx | 18:38 |
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| amrith | thx SlickNik | 18:40 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 20:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| madhu_ak | hi | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| abdelwas | o/ | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 20:00 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| blogan | hello! | 20:01 |
| xgerman | Liberty Release schedule - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 20:01 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:01 |
| ptoohill | o/ | 20:01 |
| xgerman | RC1 is on 9/21 so we need to be on our toes + rumor has it the CLI is already cut | 20:01 |
| sballe | o/ | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:02 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:02 |
| xgerman | Mitaka design summit topics | 20:02 |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 20:02 |
| xgerman | we need to start adding our topics (e.g. Octavia Active-Active) | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | Lastly: Flavor stuff | 20:03 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:03 |
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| xgerman | jwarendts has that working on his machine | 20:04 |
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| blogan | cool | 20:04 |
| blogan | and itll start with provider and flavor together and eventually move to just flavor? | 20:04 |
| blogan | well neutron-lbaas | 20:04 |
| xgerman | yes, it will show both | 20:05 |
| xgerman | and only neutron-lbaas | 20:05 |
| xgerman | for now | 20:05 |
| xgerman | and hopefully RC1 | 20:05 |
| xgerman | but, yeah, pretty fun neutron labs-loadbalancer-create —flavor GOLD | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Question on that for operators: Do you see yourself actually using a flavor that works on more than one provider? | 20:06 |
| bharathm | 0/ | 20:06 |
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| xgerman | sbalukoff I don’t see myself doing that but it is a valid future use case | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | I would be surprised if we do that. Rather, I expect we'll probably have multiple flavors per provider. | 20:06 |
| blogan | yeah i thinks o too | 20:06 |
| xgerman | yeah, that’s what’s implemented | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Possibly-- if we know someone is going to use it, eh. I'm a fan of not building things nobody uses. :) | 20:06 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff if I bought lets say A10 lbs and then get a good deal on Netscaler | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | But that's a bit of a digression. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | and want both be gold flavor | 20:07 |
| rm_work | GOLD_PLUS, GOLD_PREFERRED | 20:07 |
| dougwig | it supporting multiple providers was a diplomatic thing to convince certain folks that it wasn't a vendor lock. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | but that really complicates things since now you need weights and a scheduler | 20:07 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Easy, gold-a and gold-b | 20:08 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: way more boring than my suggestions :P | 20:08 |
| johnsom | I work for the "cold dead fish" company, what can I say.... | 20:08 |
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| rm_work | or just confuse the heck out of people with "GOLD_PLATINUM" (pretty sure i have seen that on a credit card before0 | 20:08 |
| rm_work | ) | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:08 |
| minwang2 | hahaha | 20:09 |
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| sbalukoff | Anyway, we really don't need to discuss this now, IMO. We've got... healthier fish to fry. | 20:09 |
| bana_k | sounds like airline tickets | 20:09 |
| rm_work | indeed | 20:09 |
| blogan | i don tunderstand how that would cause vendor lock | 20:09 |
| * rm_work is on an airplane, so it may have come to mind | 20:09 | |
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| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:09 |
| rm_work | blogan: me either, but whatever | 20:09 |
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| sballe | :) | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | #topic Liberty deadline stuff | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | Failover, Heartbeat, oh my | 20:11 |
| rm_work | we need to get Failover merged | 20:11 |
| rm_work | jeebus | 20:11 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:11 |
| johnsom | +100 on failover merged! | 20:11 |
| rm_work | that and fix the subnet/port delete issue | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | L7 is out. I wasn't able to get my Octavia work to the point where I'm ready to commit anything yet, and nobody has reviewed any of the L7 Neutron LBaaS stuff. | 20:11 |
| blogan | i believe it is working for both ssh and rest now | 20:11 |
| rm_work | blogan: the deletes? | 20:11 |
| blogan | rm_work: no fialover | 20:11 |
| rm_work | it wasn't as of yesterday afternoon | 20:11 |
| rm_work | oh | 20:11 |
| rm_work | k | 20:11 |
| blogan | rm_work: i dont fully comprehend the deletes though, i thought this was fixed | 20:11 |
| blogan | can you point me to some failures to look at? | 20:12 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:12 |
| xgerman | let’s be organized | 20:12 |
| xgerman | if failover works we merge it | 20:12 |
| xgerman | delete should be his own patch | 20:12 |
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| blogan | well ive testd it out, has anyone else? | 20:12 |
| blogan | would like to get double verification, or triple | 20:12 |
| minwang2 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214058/ | 20:12 |
| johnsom | I haven't had a chance to try it with the latest patches | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: I'll try it out in the next day or two. | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | Can this afternoon though | 20:12 |
| bana_k | delete lb ? | 20:12 |
| xgerman | johnsom awesome | 20:12 |
| rm_work | blogan: yeah i will get you logs | 20:13 |
| minwang2 | delete ports | 20:13 |
| dougwig | where are we with the tempest job with an octavia backend? | 20:13 |
| xgerman | bad news | 20:13 |
| blogan | so it'll work with an existing amphora that stops sending heartbeats, in the acse of there not being ane xisting amphora, it will not work as that will require some major flow changes | 20:13 |
| xgerman | johnsom explain | 20:13 |
| rm_work | blogan: basically the tempest api tests in neutron-lbaas create a LB, and then when they try to clean up, octavia tries to delete the subnet and fails because there is still a port (because nlbaas owns the port) | 20:13 |
| rm_work | dougwig: that's what i was working on with min and what we need the subnet delete fix for | 20:13 |
| johnsom | dougwig https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-octavia-dsvm-api/11/console | 20:13 |
| blogan | rm_work: octavia tries to delete the subnet? | 20:13 |
| blogan | rm_work: that doesnt make sense | 20:14 |
| rm_work | blogan: i think so | 20:14 |
| rm_work | it's on o-cw | 20:14 |
| johnsom | It's a topic item later on the list. | 20:14 |
| rm_work | i will double-check | 20:14 |
| rm_work | it seems really odd | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Semi-working. Extremely slow test though | 20:14 |
| rm_work | either way, the cleanup totally barfs, and leaves a subnet around | 20:14 |
| johnsom | 2+ hours | 20:14 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:14 |
| rm_work | i think on RAX images it should be more like 80min | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Eew. | 20:14 |
| dougwig | oh, is that an hp vs rax throwdown that i see? | 20:14 |
| johnsom | rm_work explain? | 20:14 |
| rm_work | and the infra peeps said they'd take a look at it too once we get the job actually passing, in any amount of time | 20:14 |
| xgerman | fanatical support? | 20:14 |
| rm_work | johnsom: it's just... faster | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:15 |
| rm_work | johnsom: min and I tested RAX vs HP images yesterday and found average boot time for VMs to be ~4m on RAX-8G and ~8m on HP-30H | 20:15 |
| xgerman | rm_work do we have a bug for the subnet? | 20:15 |
| blogan | 2 hours for one test, that seems acceptable | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Hahaha. The big issue is the gate systems not emulating vt-x, so qemu drops to TCG mode, which is painfully slow software emulation for our amps | 20:15 |
| * blogan ends sarcasm | 20:15 | |
| rm_work | *30G, which is what gate uses | 20:15 |
| rm_work | xgerman: not sure | 20:15 |
| xgerman | ok, let’s create one so we can track | 20:15 |
| rm_work | blogan: i mean it's the whole test run, not "one test" | 20:16 |
| blogan | rm_work: oh, well still | 20:16 |
| xgerman | 2 hours for all tests? Not bad... | 20:16 |
| rm_work | some already take 50m | 20:16 |
| rm_work | for the dsvm that is normal | 20:16 |
| blogan | yeah but 2 hours is over double | 20:16 |
| rm_work | yeah we figured out it is only creating one VM per file, not one VM per test, so it's really only like 15 VM creates, not 150 | 20:16 |
| xgerman | but the general Q is can we get infra ro provision VT-X hosts for us? | 20:16 |
| rm_work | xgerman: i don't know, like i said, once we can get the experimental gate PASSING, they will look at it with us | 20:17 |
| xgerman | dougwig as our liaison... | 20:17 |
| rm_work | but until then it is hard for me to give them useful data | 20:17 |
| blogan | does trove have a similar issue? | 20:17 |
| rm_work | I have been working a lot with them recently as well | 20:17 |
| rm_work | not sure | 20:17 |
| xgerman | brogan they only spin up three vms total | 20:17 |
| minwang2 | blogan you may want to work a bit on your patch, i post comment there, i think it is related to the port delete https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214058/ | 20:17 |
| rm_work | blogan: i promise to get you logs by tomorrow | 20:18 |
| blogan | minwang2: ah you're using that patch to run the tests? | 20:18 |
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| rm_work | or you can try spinning up the test yourself -- my script works now 100%: https://gist.github.com/rm-you/f7585ca4932b3ee1eed9 | 20:18 |
| rm_work | blogan: ^^ | 20:18 |
| blogan | minwang2: does it work without that patch? | 20:18 |
| rm_work | from a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 | 20:18 |
| rm_work | blogan: i was testing without it | 20:18 |
| blogan | 100% eh? bold claim sir | 20:19 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:19 |
| rm_work | 100% to the point where you can run tempest tests with "tox -e apiv2" | 20:19 |
| blogan | rm_work: you were testing without and it still got the same issue? | 20:19 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:19 |
| minwang2 | the first time i got the error for teardown, ptoohill pointed out that this patch might help ,i cherry picked it but seem not help much | 20:19 |
| blogan | okay so not that patch tehn | 20:19 |
| blogan | okay ill run some local tests as well and see what happens | 20:19 |
| xgerman | can we move the troubleshooting to after the meeting? | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:20 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:20 |
| xgerman | thanks | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Just a side, huge thanks to rm_work for helping with this | 20:20 |
| xgerman | yep, he should come to Seattle more often!! | 20:21 |
| minwang2 | +1 | 20:21 |
| rm_work | my job right now seems to be basically making sure everything else works, since I don't have the bandwidth to take a specific task <_< | 20:21 |
| rm_work | so just hopping around helping with random stuff seems to be useful :P | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: That's an extremely important job. :) | 20:21 |
| xgerman | rm_work did you try red bull? That works for dougwig... | 20:21 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:21 |
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| rm_work | i had some of the seattle cold brew while i was in the office, love that stuff | 20:22 |
| rm_work | anyway, what is next if we're done troubleshooting? | 20:22 |
| xgerman | yep, it’s awesome!! | 20:22 |
| xgerman | we merge everyhting | 20:22 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Yes, merge, merge, merge | 20:22 |
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| sbalukoff | And then go nuts fixing bugs | 20:22 |
| rm_work | well there's an additional patch in front of failover, right? | 20:22 |
| xgerman | except Bertrans’s thing | 20:22 |
| rm_work | but do we think we can merge that and failover ... today? | 20:22 |
| blogan | ok so assuming failover and the gat work, whats the next thign we need to get in for ref? | 20:22 |
| johnsom | I will give +2's, etc this afternoon after I test the latest code | 20:22 |
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| rm_work | UDP listener at least | 20:23 |
| blogan | okay | 20:23 |
| rm_work | ideally the followup for eventstreamer but that won't be dealbreaking | 20:23 |
| xgerman | well, the DB stuff works | 20:23 |
| xgerman | I tried that a while back | 20:23 |
| rm_work | not because of the eventstreamer itself, but because of the refactor it includes for the DB updates | 20:23 |
| xgerman | mmh, so need to try again... | 20:24 |
| rm_work | leaving those non-mixins as mixins is ... irksome | 20:24 |
| xgerman | k | 20:24 |
| rm_work | though it doesn't affect functionality really, it's just gross | 20:24 |
| xgerman | we can rename ;-) | 20:24 |
| rm_work | yeah that is the refactor | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Can we do that after we do the chain merge? | 20:24 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:24 |
| rm_work | yeah i mean if we get through to UDP merged it's good | 20:25 |
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| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 20:25 |
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| xgerman | ok, so moving on johnsom did some benchmarks | 20:25 |
| xgerman | so dougwig can be proud :-) | 20:26 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, I would like to see everything in that chain up to UDP merged today/tomorrow if we can get the reviews/tests done | 20:26 |
| blogan | isnt dougwig on vacation or something | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yeah, ok | 20:26 |
| rm_work | just commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220747/5 but willing to merge it despite comments | 20:26 |
| xgerman | I saw his ghost earlier | 20:26 |
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| dougwig | he came back early, after mechanical issues. | 20:26 |
| rm_work | all minor code quality stuff | 20:26 |
| johnsom | caveats - DevStack inside ESXi 6 on 14.04 guest - 4vCPU, 16GB RAM, 50GB disk. Two amphora ubuntu nova instances with GWAN web server, serving 100 byte text file. | 20:26 |
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| johnsom | I used two benchmarks, apache bench(ab) and httperf (full disclaimer HP labs code). | 20:26 |
| xgerman | mechanical issues? Pictures? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | On httperf Octavia did 88.5% of the requests per second as the namespace driver. | 20:27 |
| rm_work | johnsom: i had some erlang based swarm testing code somewhere that ptoohill and I worked on a while back, we might throw that at some LBs too and see if we get similar results | 20:27 |
| johnsom | On AB Octavia did 103% of the requests per second | 20:27 |
| ptoohill | Tsung | 20:27 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:27 |
| rm_work | Tsung is GREAT | 20:27 |
| ptoohill | It is. | 20:27 |
| ptoohill | Locust is getting better | 20:27 |
| blogan | so johnsom, they look similar | 20:27 |
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| sbalukoff | Close enough not to make people hate Octavia on the basis of performance, at least. | 20:28 |
| rm_work | but that's workable, even at ~90% that's fine | 20:28 |
| rm_work | yep | 20:28 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff +1 | 20:28 |
| johnsom | The test system was really CPU bound to get peak performance numbers. It really should be run on 4+ bare metal systems to get true requests per second #s | 20:28 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: yeah and octavia has more going for it as well | 20:28 |
| ptoohill | like the name Octavia | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Indeed it does! Octavia has a bright future! | 20:28 |
| rm_work | johnsom: ok, remind me later and we can look at that | 20:28 |
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| rm_work | the more benchmarks the better | 20:29 |
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| xgerman | absolutely — I like to be on stage and say now with 1000% more performance | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Yep. This highly qualifies as "quick and dirty" | 20:29 |
| dougwig | those numbers will do fine, especially since we now have scalability and (soon) failover. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Just to make dougwig sleep slightly better at night | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Hehe! | 20:30 |
| xgerman | moving on | 20:30 |
| xgerman | Horizon | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | We are all extremely concerned about dougwig's sleep. | 20:30 |
| xgerman | so Aish on our team tried installing that without success so far | 20:30 |
| dougwig | anyone from ebay/paypal here today? | 20:31 |
| xgerman | we have been in touch with them | 20:31 |
| xgerman | so chances are that it will work | 20:31 |
| xgerman | but I am not sure how we would package/release it | 20:32 |
| dougwig | let's get it working and merged, then we can sort out the release timeline. | 20:33 |
| xgerman | ok | 20:33 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 20:33 |
| xgerman | next up: Active-Passive | 20:33 |
| xgerman | johnsom reviewed and Sherif is facing the bugs currently | 20:34 |
| xgerman | facing=fixing | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I think he is pretty close to addressing all of the comments I left. | 20:34 |
| xgerman | I talked with mystery and we have an FFE for that | 20:34 |
| xgerman | mestery | 20:34 |
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| blogan | hopefully the failover and udp reviews go faster and get merged so I can focus on that one and test it out well | 20:35 |
| xgerman | yeah, that would be good | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | #Open Discussion | 20:36 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:36 |
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| blogan | have we mentioned merges? | 20:36 |
| xgerman | yes, we did :-) | 20:37 |
| blogan | oh | 20:37 |
| xgerman | and we don’t want to merge things which are not critical right now | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | I have patches up on both Octavia and neutron-lbaas for adding a member state of "NO_MONITOR". | 20:37 |
| blogan | design sessions, should we have one for neutron-lbaas and one for octavia, or have it combined now? | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | As I alluded to last week, I have an IBM group based in Israel that is very interested in contributing to Octavia. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | I am working on getting them up to speed as to how to engage with the community effectively. | 20:38 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: they can sync up with sam and evgeny well too! | 20:38 |
| xgerman | blogan — not sure how tight the space is but we can combine | 20:38 |
| minwang2 | i am working on octavia gate setting and cert rotation | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | I don't know if they'll make it to this meeting that often, as they are in a crappy timezone for it. But I'mma try to get them into our IRC channel. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | yeah, cert/anchor stuff will be M | 20:38 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: yeah same reason sam and evgenyf dont make it most of the time | 20:38 |
| xgerman | so we need a new time? | 20:38 |
| xgerman | alternate? | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | For what it's worth, they're most interested in working on the active-active code, a heat-compute driver, and starting work on getting horizontal service delivery an actual reality. | 20:38 |
| blogan | xgerman: lets discuss that at the summit | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | So, they're probably going to be pushing hard for / diving into that. | 20:39 |
| blogan | xgerman: or make an ML | 20:39 |
| xgerman | yeah, this clearly is an ML | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | So, expect to hear a lot more about that in the near-ish future. | 20:40 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:40 |
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| xgerman | we are excited | 20:40 |
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| sbalukoff | On another note: I feel like the Neutron LBaaS pool sharing stuff should be ready to merge, though since nothing in L7 is going to get in in Liberty, that will probably remain on hold until the Liberty stuff is tagged at least. | 20:40 |
| johnsom | What about doc updates for Liberty / Octavia? | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yep, we need to do that. | 20:41 |
| minwang2 | +1 | 20:41 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:41 |
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| xgerman | first we make something that works… then :-) | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | I'm happy to work on that once the merge-fest is done and we're in bugfix mode for a while. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | thanks | 20:42 |
| xgerman | I am happy to help as well + remember we have a hands on lab in about a month | 20:42 |
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| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:42 |
| rm_work | which i *will* be there for | 20:42 |
| rm_work | flights and hotel booked yesterday | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | I'm also 100% confirmed to be there. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | cool | 20:42 |
| TrevorV | It doesn't look promising for me to show up guys... Makes me sad, and jealous. | 20:42 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:42 |
| rm_work | TrevorV: there might be another round | 20:43 |
| xgerman | TrevorV just hide in blogans suitcase | 20:43 |
| rm_work | and i was definitely WAY under what they expected for budget | 20:43 |
| TrevorV | Its unlikely they'll pick me anyway. | 20:43 |
| TrevorV | You gonna hostel it rm_work ? | 20:43 |
| rm_work | no, but cheap hotel | 20:43 |
| TrevorV | I've signed up as a speaker, last week sometime. | 20:43 |
| rm_work | staying at the same one as brandon | 20:43 |
| rm_work | woo 3/5 star hotel | 20:43 |
| TrevorV | In japan, that might be bad. | 20:43 |
| TrevorV | lulz | 20:43 |
| rm_work | heh yeah | 20:43 |
| rm_work | Westin is 5-star <_< | 20:44 |
| rm_work | worried a little about 3-star | 20:44 |
| xgerman | it is bad | 20:44 |
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| TrevorV | I'll make the mistake of getting into a 5-star, blowing the budget ideals there, and then getting in trouble and never being able to travel again... Except I'll have gone to tokyo, so "worth it" is all I'll say :P | 20:44 |
| blogan | it'll be a little room | 20:44 |
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| rm_work | heh | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:44 |
| johnsom | My objective is to not end up in a "pod" hotel... | 20:45 |
| xgerman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ViYfN420k | 20:45 |
| rm_work | so once we are done with main topics, i will ask who all is staying afterwards and if anyone wants to go to Osaka with me :P | 20:45 |
| rm_work | I'm there from 10/24 to 11/14 | 20:46 |
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| blogan | i want to ride on a plane that is tall person friendly | 20:46 |
| rm_work | and no plans for week 2 yet | 20:46 |
| xgerman | well, 10/31 is a big kid holiday | 20:46 |
| rm_work | 11/03 is Culture Day | 20:46 |
| rm_work | festivals and stuff i think that are cool | 20:46 |
| rm_work | if you stay longer | 20:46 |
| xgerman | mmh | 20:46 |
| rm_work | anywho, any other real topics | 20:46 |
| rm_work | where were we? | 20:46 |
| xgerman | I think no real topics | 20:47 |
| xgerman | done early? | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Don't have the vacation time for it, myself, unfortunately. Otherwise I'd love to, rm_work. :P | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Done! | 20:47 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 20:47:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-09-20.00.html | 20:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-09-20.00.txt | 20:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-09-09-20.00.log.html | 20:47 |
| rm_work | sbalukoff: ah yeah i will be partially working during nights | 20:47 |
| rm_work | probably basically taking half days every day is my plan | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Haha! Awesome! | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | That's cool. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | cool, the summit starts Tuesday… might frontload a bit | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | In reality, I have a bunch of other vacations planned for the end of the year, and one of them starts less than a week after getting back from Tokyo. :) | 20:48 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I suspect I'll be trying to get over jetlag. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | I am in Tokyo over my GF's birthday and she is making a >:( face at me | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | And unfolding my spine. I'm flying coach. :P | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:49 |
| rm_work | ah yes. coach. woo | 20:49 |
| rm_work | last time i flew to tokyo it was first class | 20:49 |
| rm_work | this will be ... different | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Yeah, not looking forward to that | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah. :P | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | At least it's a nonstop flight for me, though. | 20:49 |
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| sbalukoff | Ok, I'mma go get some lunch. Catch y'all later! | 20:50 |
| rm_work | later | 20:50 |
| rm_work | yeah nonstop from ... houston for me | 20:50 |
| rm_work | so not bad | 20:50 |
| rm_work | blogan: I went with American | 20:50 |
| rm_work | was cheaper and less layovers | 20:50 |
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| rm_work | erk, moving to main channel | 20:53 |
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