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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 15:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
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| csaba | hi | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso_ | hello | 15:00 |
| abalutoiu | hi | 15:00 |
| lpabon | o/ | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| zhongjun2 | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | markstur zhongjun2: courtesy ping | 15:01 |
| dustins | o/ | 15:01 |
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| u_glide | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | hmm first topic is markstur's | 15:02 |
| toabctl | bswartz: I just have 1/2 hour if there's something to discuss about install guide docs | 15:02 |
| markstur | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | there he is! | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic Common Capabilities | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Common Capabilities (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| markstur | I think we can wrap up thin and dedupe | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209781/ | 15:02 |
| markstur | There have been minor issues with the example, but | 15:03 |
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| markstur | I think the agreement is there. Zhongjun had an issue, but his patch landed so I think he's probably happy | 15:03 |
| markstur | Any remaining issues on the way thin is handled? | 15:03 |
| markstur | Also I wanted to mention snapshot_support | 15:04 |
| markstur | Valeriy has a patch for that | 15:04 |
| markstur | It is fully implemented in client, etc. Like DHSS, but optional | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I think zhongjun2 still had remaining concerns | 15:04 |
| markstur | The think I wanted to point out is that this will be set to True or False in every share type | 15:04 |
| bswartz | zhongjun2: did you want to raise any issues now? | 15:05 |
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| markstur | So I don't think there is a way to have a share-type that doens't care about snapshot_support (and dhss) | 15:05 |
| zhongjun2 | yes | 15:05 |
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| markstur | zhongjun2, go ahead | 15:06 |
| zhongjun2 | I send a email to you. | 15:06 |
| bswartz | markstur: correct, you have to have snapshot_support=True or False | 15:06 |
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| zhongjun2 | about wheather Replace thin/thick capabilities with thin_provisioning. | 15:06 |
| bswartz | zhongjun2: yes there are 2 issues here | 15:07 |
| bswartz | We already decided that, for UI simplicity, we should have thin_provisioning=True/False ONLY and no capabilities about thick | 15:07 |
| bswartz | backends that do thick provisioning communicate this by advertising thin_provisioning=False | 15:08 |
| bswartz | the side effect of this decision is that backend now cannot have pools that support both | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I see this as a feature not a bug | 15:08 |
| markstur | I think the issue is that the pool name now needs to be tricked to make one backend pool look like 2 manila pools (thin/thick) | 15:08 |
| markstur | zhongjun2, is suggesting that that is confusing to users | 15:09 |
| bswartz | based on the work that xyang1 did in Cinder, I concluded that mixing thin and thick provisioned shares/volumes in the same pool will usually lead to serious problems | 15:09 |
| markstur | I understand the inconvenience, but we can't expect always a 1-to-1 mapping of manila pool with array pool | 15:09 |
| markstur | bswartz, worth mentioning that we'll be inconsistent with Cinder | 15:10 |
| zhongjun2 | If I add identifying prefix or something behind pool name, May be the user feel very confused, and can not find a match pool name on array. | 15:10 |
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| zhongjun2 | inconsistent with Cinder? means thin and thick both supported? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | zhongjun2: it sounds like you're taking the same pool on your backend and reporting it to manila twice, once with thin_provisioning=True and once with thin_provisioning=False | 15:10 |
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| zhongjun2 | yes | 15:11 |
| xyang1 | We need to come up with some examples on how the driver can implement this though, as I pointed out in Mark's patch | 15:11 |
| bswartz | zhongjun2: that will create problems for the manila scheduler because share creation will actually decrease free space in both pools but manila will only know about one pool | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | My recommendation is to allow the admin to statically configure each pool as thick or thin (or the whole backend) using the driver's config | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | here is the problem with mixing thick and thin in the same pool (hopefully I can do this quickly) | 15:13 |
| xyang1 | How to set up pools in conf and have driver parse it and determine which can be used as thin or thick, etc | 15:13 |
| bswartz | if you have a mixed pool, and you start by creating a few thin provisioned volumes, you will get an overcommit ratio of X | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | where X < 1 | 15:14 |
| bswartz | if you then create some thick provisioned volumes/shares in the same pool, your overcommit ratio can go way above 1, but the manila scheduler doesn't look at overcommit when scheduling thick volumes/shares | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | you can end up in situation where you overcommit significantly more than you intended to | 15:15 |
| bswartz | if you have separate pools for thick and thin then the scheduler can regular the overcommit ratio correctly | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | does that make sense? | 15:16 |
| markstur | Mixing them in one pool with the current scheduler would like fill fast and even out-of-space with thick shares | 15:16 |
| markstur | s/like/likely/ or I should've said "possibly" | 15:17 |
| markstur | Comments on thin before I paste in some comments on snapshot_support? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | we of course can't prevent drivers from reporting the same pool twice but I'll warn you know that it will cause bad user experience because the scheduler will do the wrong thing | 15:18 |
| zhongjun2 | Whether to use depends on the users choice | 15:18 |
| markstur | yes the naming needs to be tweaked | 15:18 |
| markstur | the end-user won't see the name | 15:18 |
| markstur | the admin should be able to figure out your naming methods from docs | 15:18 |
| zhongjun2 | Maybe is not out-of-space with thick shares | 15:18 |
| xyang1 | The max over sub ratio is determined by the admin based on space usage patterns. No matter how you implement this, admin always have to check the real space comsumption and add storage if needed | 15:19 |
| xyang1 | That is why we need notifications on space usage | 15:19 |
| bswartz | zhongjun2: if you're not convinced by my argument I suggest you start a mail thread about this topic on the manila ML and we can go into more detail | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I want to let markstur finish with his topic | 15:20 |
| markstur | So, on snapshot_suport since it is a significant thing it is forced to be set. | 15:20 |
| markstur | But if we had a 3rd thing like this dhss/snap/3rd-thing then there would be 8 combos. | 15:20 |
| markstur | We can't keep doing that. | 15:20 |
| markstur | It could get difficult in a mixed environment to get the combos correct. Normally you have a "don't care" option. | 15:20 |
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| markstur | So I'm OK with doing this on snapshots, but I wanted to point out that we shouldn't normally do this. | 15:20 |
| markstur | Yeah. I type fast. | 15:20 |
| bswartz | markstur: lol | 15:20 |
| bswartz | markstur: the motivation for making some extra specs user-visible is because they affect the API | 15:21 |
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| zhongjun2 | ok, thanks | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I don't actually expect real deployments to have all combinations | 15:21 |
| markstur | Yes. But to be clear. Non-default impls will require a matching share type | 15:21 |
| markstur | As long as people are aware of that. | 15:21 |
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| markstur | and we wouldn't do this if it wasn't a major driver splitting thing | 15:21 |
| markstur | OK? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | oh, you're concerned about the case where the default share type and the driver cause scheduling to fail out-of-the-box? | 15:22 |
| markstur | Well you can't get there with default share types | 15:22 |
| markstur | You need to know | 15:22 |
| markstur | So non-snap drivers need to make that clear in their docs | 15:22 |
| bswartz | the admin needs to make sure that all share types actually work, including the default | 15:22 |
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| markstur | I'm more worried about what it would look like if we did this again with a 3rd option. | 15:23 |
| bswartz | the admin is supposed to know what his driver can support (by reading the docs) and configure share types appropriately | 15:23 |
| bswartz | markstur: there's a 3rd option coming already | 15:23 |
| bswartz | replication | 15:23 |
| markstur | Normally extra-specs can be optional so there's a 'don't care" option | 15:23 |
| bswartz | it will default to None, but there will be 3 other valid options | 15:24 |
| markstur | Which is easy, but has a do-you-feel-lucky element | 15:24 |
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| ganso_ | markstur: lol | 15:24 |
| bswartz | markstur: the difference is that with most extra_specs, whether you get true or false, the end user can't perceive the difference through the cinder API | 15:24 |
| zhongjun2 | I will think again | 15:24 |
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| markstur | bswartz, yep | 15:25 |
| markstur | So snapshot case makes sense. It is an important split like dhss | 15:25 |
| bswartz | we're making decisions to add features that change the API -- and the user needs to know what they can and can't do | 15:25 |
| markstur | OK. I'm not trying to argue against it. Just trying to make sure all are aware of it. And also that we wouldn't do it for everything. | 15:25 |
| zhongjun2 | I fear that this combination will have more follow-up, aren't we all want to separate? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | oh okay | 15:26 |
| bswartz | those are both good points | 15:26 |
| bswartz | user-visible extra specs are only added when we have no choice, because the feature has API impact | 15:26 |
| bswartz | and admins need to be keenly aware of these extra_specs | 15:27 |
| xyang1 | markstur: Are you going to change manila ui for snapshots? The snapshots tab should not be there by default any more | 15:27 |
| bswartz | okay next topic | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: I think there's a patch already that does that | 15:27 |
| xyang1 | Ok | 15:27 |
| markstur | Valeriy is on it | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213242/ | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #topic Feature Freeze | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | so today is the last day to submit new feature patches for Liberty | 15:28 |
| bswartz | most everything is ready for review right now, with the exception of 2 things from NetApp | 15:29 |
| bswartz | those things should go up this afternoon | 15:29 |
| bswartz | it's a good thing we didn't wait until the last minute.... | 15:30 |
| csaba | bswartz: RH has also some outstanding work | 15:30 |
| * bswartz chuckles | 15:30 | |
| bswartz | csaba: 23:59 UTC is the deadline to have it in gerrit with +1 from jenkins | 15:30 |
| markstur | csaba, All your work is "outstanding" | 15:30 |
| bswartz | markstur: +1 | 15:30 |
| bswartz | nice double entendre | 15:30 |
| bswartz | the merge freeze is 2 weeks from today | 15:31 |
| bswartz | for the next 2 weeks everyone should be focused on reviewing, rebasing, and merging features from this list: | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/liberty-3 | 15:31 |
| csaba | markstur: thanks for the compilment | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | I'm working on an etherpad where we can get core members to sign up to review patches if we aren't getting enough core attention on stuff | 15:33 |
| bswartz | currently it seems like we're getting pretty good review coverage though and that might not be needed | 15:33 |
| markstur | bswartz, You have a -2 to prevent rebase nightmare with share instances. When is that going away? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | next week if I see stuff that's not getting reviewed I'll start to look for core to assign to stuff | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | markstur: yeah share instances will cause rebase hell for many things and I didn't want to make that happen right before the deadline | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I'll remove my -2 at 0:00 UTC tonight and workflow it again | 15:35 |
| bswartz | anything not in gerrit by then won't be part of liberty anyways | 15:36 |
| bswartz | and plenty of stuff will need rebasing, so submitters can start to work on that tomorrow in parallel with code reviews happening | 15:36 |
| bswartz | csaba: I see 3 new bps -- I'll grab you after meeting today to discuss them | 15:37 |
| bswartz | any questions about feature freeze / feature proposal freeze? | 15:38 |
| csaba | bswartz: OK | 15:38 |
| bswartz | #topic docs | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | toabctl: I know you had to leave but I think you know everything I'm about to say | 15:39 |
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| toabctl | bswartz: still looking but also in another phone meeting... | 15:40 |
| * annegentle waves | 15:40 | |
| bswartz | we are working on bringing manila's documentation up to part with the rest of the openstack project with the goal of having that done by Liberty release | 15:40 |
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| annegentle | I'm not totally caught up tho | 15:40 |
| bswartz | I was surprised to find out that some documentation projects limit their content to defcore-only projects | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | the install guide is one of these, so toabctls manila install guide patch got -2'd | 15:41 |
| bswartz | the good news is that the various guides in openstack-manuals have no such restriction, and that's where most of our focus will be during liberty | 15:41 |
| annegentle | sorry bswartz I thought I was pretty clear on the diretion | 15:41 |
| annegentle | direction, can't spell :) | 15:41 |
| annegentle | bswartz: the vision is to have you all review your install directions in your repo | 15:42 |
| bswartz | annegentle: that's what we can do in the short term | 15:42 |
| annegentle | bswartz: and build to a common install guide, but we just don't have the infra structure right now | 15:42 |
| annegentle | bswartz: yep | 15:42 |
| bswartz | based on my private email thread with loquacities, I'm hopeful that there will soon be an "extended install guide" that we can be part of, along with several other non-defcore projects | 15:43 |
| bswartz | perhaps not in liberty | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | anyways anyone who's working on docs should just be aware of what the docs team is up to and make sure they're aware of what you're up to so we don't get nasty surprises | 15:44 |
| annegentle | I apologize for any surprises there, you all. | 15:44 |
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| xyang1 | So we are free to add the user guide? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | I'm learning as I go | 15:45 |
| bswartz | xyang1: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/user-guide | 15:45 |
| bswartz | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/user-guide-admin | 15:45 |
| bswartz | these are both part of openstack-manuals and AFAIK they will take manila content | 15:45 |
| annegentle | xyang1: I believe so but again the specialty team may have reasons so check in with them, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/User_Guides#Agenda_for_next_meeting is their weekly meeting | 15:45 |
| xyang1 | annegentle: Ok, i have submitted a patch | 15:46 |
| annegentle | xyang1: ok, thanks | 15:46 |
| annegentle | and thanks everyone for taking care of docs | 15:46 |
| toabctl | and if unsure, ask on openstack-doc ML | 15:46 |
| xyang1 | annegentle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214758/ | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | any other questions about docs? | 15:47 |
| bswartz | we're still looking for volunteers for certain guides -- all of the core team members are working on at least 1 doc | 15:48 |
| bswartz | ah here it is | 15:48 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-documentation-sprint | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:50 |
| bswartz | I'll let you all go 10 minutes early | 15:50 |
| bswartz | 8 hours until the FPF | 15:51 |
| bswartz | use the time to get your patches up if you haven't already | 15:51 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 15:51:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-08-20-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-08-20-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-08-20-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 16:01:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | hi all | 16:01 |
| ashtokol_ | hi | 16:01 |
| angdraug | o/ | 16:01 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 16:01 |
| agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
| monester | hi | 16:01 |
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| sgolovatiuk | o/ | 16:01 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #topic code review process in Fuel (mihgen) | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "code review process in Fuel (mihgen) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| sbog | hi | 16:01 |
| bogdando | o/ | 16:02 |
| mihgen | hi folks, I've writtent quite long email | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072406.html | 16:02 |
| mihgen | sorry for it being so long) just wanted to raise it here if you have any immediate questions | 16:02 |
| amaksimov | hi | 16:02 |
| evgenyl | hi | 16:02 |
| mihgen | and bring it to your attention | 16:02 |
| mihgen | also, there is a short version of this email in slides: | 16:02 |
| mihgen | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HMSovUxujOUwILPSjiuZHqAxo1TujQazA2yGHSsQC6U | 16:02 |
| akislitsky | hi | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | I'd ecorurage everyone to block some time and spend 30min on it | 16:03 |
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| bogdando | Yes, I spent two hours y-day reading related links and that was quite interesting :) | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | :) good to know you've found it interesting | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | guys - I'll be waiting your feedback in the thread.. | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | seem it is gonna take up to 4 hours of my time ) | 16:04 |
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| bogdando | I think only peer-to-peer review mesh could work for community well | 16:04 |
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| bogdando | but yes, we better move discussion there, to the ML thread | 16:04 |
| mihgen | bogdando: hmm ok - then we'd need to debate. yes, ML please then | 16:05 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: that's it, move on? | 16:05 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, i think we can move on, because it is not likely that anyone else except bogdando have managed to read it so far | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | #topic network-related bugs & patch for Ironic (akasatkin) | 16:05 |
| mihgen | agenda link: | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "network-related bugs & patch for Ironic (akasatkin) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:05 | |
| mihgen | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:05 |
| akasatkin | hi | 16:06 |
| akasatkin | we have 9 bugs on networking left: | 16:06 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1484928 (on review) ! | 16:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484928 in Fuel for OpenStack "Network templates for custom Node Groups don't work: group ID is used instead of name during template applying" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Artem Panchenko (apanchenko-8) | 16:06 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1486543 (Roman Prykhodchenko) ! | 16:06 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1487021 (Aleksey Kasatkin) ! | 16:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486543 in Fuel for OpenStack "[nailgun] Need to add VIPs in new format into API output" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Roman Prykhodchenko (romcheg) | 16:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487021 in Fuel for OpenStack "[VIPs] VIP allocation is restricted to controller node group now" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Aleksey Kasatkin (alekseyk-ru) | 16:06 |
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| akasatkin | these 3 are more important | 16:06 |
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| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1484476 (on review) | 16:07 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1484929 (on review) | 16:07 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1487007 (Kseniya Tychkova) | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484476 in Fuel for OpenStack "No cleanup for network groups when managed via new API" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Artem Roma (aroma-x) | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484929 in Fuel for OpenStack "Weak validation for network group update and delete" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Elena Kosareva (ekosareva) | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487007 in Fuel for OpenStack "[VIPs] VIP name and namespace should be normalized" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kseniya Tychkova (ktychkova) | 16:07 |
| akasatkin | these 3 are also important | 16:07 |
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| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1482399 (Łukasz Oleś) feature | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482399 in Fuel for OpenStack "Cannot change vip and vrouter_vip IPs when we are using nodegroups" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Łukasz Oleś (loles) | 16:07 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1483307 (on review - Ironic) | 16:07 |
| akasatkin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1484008 (on review) like to be lower | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483307 in Fuel for OpenStack "Non-default networks are not serialized when template is not loaded" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Andrey Shestakov (ashestakov) | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484008 in Fuel for OpenStack "Address space intersection error after creating a node group" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Przemyslaw Kaminski (pkaminski) | 16:07 |
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| akasatkin | last 3 are under question | 16:07 |
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| akasatkin | 5 of them are with fixes on review already | 16:08 |
| ashestakov | bug/1483307 - i think it is not only for ironic | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211349/ | 16:08 |
| mihgen | ashestakov: this doesn't really look like a bug, ashestakov ^^ | 16:08 |
| mihgen | can't we achieve the same goal by using templated networking ? | 16:09 |
| akasatkin | Custom networks is a thing that is supported with templates now. | 16:09 |
| akasatkin | Without template being loaded, only default set of networks is serialized by Nailgun: | 16:09 |
| akasatkin | 1) If some networks were added they will not be serialized. | 16:09 |
| akasatkin | 2) If some networks were removed Nailgun will not serialize data properly. | 16:09 |
| akasatkin | This patch deals with the first problem. | 16:09 |
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| ashestakov | mihgen: why? if i have possibility to create custom network group, why it not working as expected? (transformations are absent) | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | my opinion is that it is too disruptive change such late in the cycle, leading to increasing of a tech debt; while there is another solution can be used (templated networking) for the same purpose.. | 16:10 |
| akasatkin | yes , from one side it looks not consistent, from other side we support it with templates | 16:10 |
| akasatkin | Both problems must be resolved in 8.0 where we want to have API and UI support for network roles and networks manipulation. | 16:10 |
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| mihgen | it's rather a gap in functionality, not a bug | 16:11 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: evgenyl: opinions on this patch? ^^ | 16:12 |
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| ikalnitsky | mihgen, i'm sorry, i didn't look close | 16:13 |
| ashestakov | why need functionality to create custom network groups? | 16:13 |
| akasatkin | ...change was tested for regression with sys.tests on CI. | 16:13 |
| mihgen | regarding the other two, both of them are about node groups. | 16:13 |
| ikalnitsky | but it looks like most of the lines are tests, and it's not so complex | 16:13 |
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| mihgen | I'd consider those to move to next milestone as well | 16:14 |
| mihgen | ashestakov: looks like it doesn't work then :( | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | should we make a decision right now? | 16:15 |
| mihgen | but changing so many LOC late in the cycle -doesn't sounds as a good idea | 16:15 |
| akasatkin | mihgen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1482399 looks more like a feature for me and https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1484008 seems to be lower priority | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482399 in Fuel for OpenStack "Cannot change vip and vrouter_vip IPs when we are using nodegroups" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Łukasz Oleś (loles) | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484008 in Fuel for OpenStack "Address space intersection error after creating a node group" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Przemyslaw Kaminski (pkaminski) | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | or maybe to move this discussion in CR | 16:15 |
| mihgen | akasatkin: that's what I said about them - both node-groups related and should be pushed to next release in my opinion, too late too | 16:16 |
| mihgen | we need to make hard decisions in order to converge by 3 Sep | 16:16 |
| ashestakov | mihgen: there are not a lot of LOC, just one function has been de-intherited + tests | 16:16 |
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| mihgen | ashestakov: which means code duplication of so many lines.. | 16:16 |
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| kozhukalov | guys, let's move on, not the best place for discussing quality of code | 16:17 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: evgenyl please take a look at those patches | 16:17 |
| mihgen | we would need to get a collaborative decision by cores on what we are getting in and what to push out | 16:18 |
| ikalnitsky | i've added ironic patch to my review queue, will do it tomorrow morning | 16:18 |
| mihgen | bearing in mind HCF & quality | 16:18 |
| evgenyl | ok | 16:18 |
| akasatkin | yes | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | #topic testing results for Keystone wsgi MPM worker layouts vs memcached dead_retry/haproxy rise vs deprecated eventlet (bogdando) | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing results for Keystone wsgi MPM worker layouts vs memcached dead_retry/haproxy rise vs deprecated eventlet (bogdando) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:18 | |
| ashestakov | but please, it is not ironic patch | 16:19 |
| bogdando | We ran few keystone testing sessions with rally, results are here https://goo.gl/Hi25QG (no pretty view, sorry, only raw data and links to htmls). | 16:19 |
| bogdando | The meeting minutes after the test sessions was logged here https://goo.gl/Hi25QG. Some missing test results data for the scale lab test cases arrived today. | 16:19 |
| bogdando | I fixed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212439 by test results. | 16:19 |
| bogdando | The patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209589/ recieved -2 unless we got SME's (Boris Bobrov) recommendations for MPM layout (processes x threads): | 16:19 |
| bogdando | "My feeling is that 6 processes 2 threads will work as good as 12 processes 2 threads when all nodes are up. But 6 processes 2 threads will definitely work better than 12 processes 2 threads when one node is down" | 16:19 |
| bogdando | So Boris will analyze new data and provide feedback to the blocked patch. | 16:19 |
| mihgen | ashestakov: I don't know why we call it "ironic" patch )) | 16:19 |
| bogdando | nothing more to add | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | :) | 16:19 |
| bogdando | meeting minutes fixed link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:20 |
| sgolovatiuk | we should also make changes to haproxy to set rise 15 with 2 seconds interval or rise 30 with 2 seconfs interval | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:21 |
| bogdando | I udated the patch, sgolovatiuk | 16:21 |
| sgolovatiuk | k | 16:21 |
| angdraug | can someone sum up known issues with keystone wsgi? | 16:21 |
| sgolovatiuk | generally, the results show good performance | 16:21 |
| angdraug | is it just haproxy configuration? | 16:21 |
| sgolovatiuk | all mysql related issues are fix | 16:21 |
| sgolovatiuk | yes, it's just haproxy config | 16:21 |
| bogdando | I know only issues related to the haproxy rise and keystone dead_retry conf | 16:22 |
| sgolovatiuk | and all sporadic BVT failures are fixed also | 16:22 |
| sgolovatiuk | that's it | 16:22 |
| angdraug | did anyone collect all related bugs in one document? | 16:22 |
| sgolovatiuk | no need to revert it back to eventlet | 16:22 |
| angdraug | "here is everything we know about this topic" and "haproxy is the only issue I'm personally aware of" is not the same :) | 16:22 |
| sgolovatiuk | angdraug: I think no | 16:23 |
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| angdraug | any volunteers to put together such summary? | 16:23 |
| angdraug | or objections? | 16:23 |
| alex_didenko | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1480153 - the only open bug for keystone/wsgi | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480153 in Fuel for OpenStack "haproxy for keystone-admin takes a 240-300s" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Bogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | does anyone want to have action to collect everything in one place? | 16:24 |
| mihgen | yeah guys it would be extemely helpful to get it in openstack-dev email | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | bogdando, can you? | 16:24 |
| bogdando | ok | 16:24 |
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| angdraug | a list of all recent bugs related to the topic, open or closed, would be a good start | 16:25 |
| bogdando | I will send openstack-dev ML | 16:25 |
| angdraug | thanks! | 16:25 |
| mihgen | summary of everything related to the topic | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | #action bogdando writes ML thread to collect everything about keystone wsgi | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:25 |
| mihgen | thanks bogdando | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | #topic life-cycle-management tag for bugs triage process (bogdando) | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "life-cycle-management tag for bugs triage process (bogdando) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:26 | |
| bogdando | While was looking through bugs list, I marked some of them with life-cycle-management | 16:26 |
| bogdando | This is a major feature Fuel missing atm | 16:26 |
| mihgen | bogdando: yep | 16:26 |
| bogdando | so we should be able to filter related bugs quickly | 16:26 |
| mihgen | I think this is a good tag to have | 16:26 |
| angdraug | +1 | 16:27 |
| evgenyl | What this tag can help with? | 16:27 |
| bogdando | so please, then you think a bug is related to this topic, please use this tag | 16:27 |
| evgenyl | Will such bugs have higher priority? | 16:27 |
| bogdando | evgenyl, to filter | 16:27 |
| angdraug | evgenyl: requirements management for life cycle management related features | 16:27 |
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| bogdando | once we have a blueprint in progress, we could collect them all and link there | 16:28 |
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| mihgen | I'd support additing it to official bugs list | 16:28 |
| * mihgen why I'm being disconnected all the time today.. | 16:28 | |
| kozhukalov | what are the life cycle management features? example? | 16:28 |
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| bogdando | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bugs?field.tag=life-cycle-management | 16:28 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: replace controller node | 16:29 |
| mihgen | scale up, scale down | 16:29 |
| mihgen | reconfigure glance backend | 16:29 |
| bogdando | This one https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1471172 is a feature, not a bug. So when we'll start to address that feature, we could address these bugs | 16:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1471172 in Fuel for OpenStack "Orchestrator doesn't clean deleted node from the cloud upon node removal" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Library Team (fuel-library) | 16:29 |
| angdraug | generally speaking, post-deployment operations on environments | 16:29 |
| bogdando | cleanup/teardown activities as well | 16:30 |
| mihgen | yep. So do we need any decision here? | 16:30 |
| kozhukalov | ok, now i see, thanks for clarification | 16:30 |
| mihgen | or action? | 16:30 |
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| bogdando | I think that was just an informational | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: can we get infra team to add this to offical list of tags? | 16:30 |
| angdraug | sure | 16:31 |
| mihgen | it sounds like a good tag to have for me | 16:31 |
| bogdando | note, patching and upgrades could fit this area also | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | action? | 16:31 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: yes please | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | #action infra team adds life-cycle-management bug tag to the official list of tags | 16:32 |
| angdraug | done | 16:32 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, next topic is again about keystone, i think we've already discussed this | 16:32 |
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| angdraug | yes | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | #topic ironic-fuel-agent-driver (kozhukalov, lobur) | 16:32 |
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| kozhukalov | this new repo is for hosting ironic fuel agent driver | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | ironic guys do not want to have two different agents | 16:33 |
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| kozhukalov | so we can just have the driver out of ironic tree | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | what is it, ironic fuel agent driver, I can't really parse it - | 16:34 |
| mihgen | driver which suppose to do what? | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | as far as i know everyone agreed with this approach | 16:34 |
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| kozhukalov | it is ironic deployment driver | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | which is to use fuel agent for deployment | 16:34 |
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| kozhukalov | for example ironic has so called IPA deployment driver as a part of its source code tree | 16:35 |
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| kozhukalov | IPA - ironic python agent | 16:35 |
| mihgen | under deployment, do you mean roll out an image? | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | it does not support some features which fuel agent supports and some people need these features | 16:36 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen, yes | 16:36 |
| mihgen | so I'm just curious, we have an agent | 16:36 |
| mihgen | ironic has one similar | 16:36 |
| kozhukalov | it is when you install ironic, add a node, and send a request to deploy this node | 16:36 |
| mihgen | this is going to be a third one? | 16:37 |
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| kozhukalov | IPA driver is similar but not the same | 16:37 |
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| kozhukalov | deployment flow and data are slightly different | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | I'm just wondering if we could do the work in one of the existing drivers, instead of creating new repo... | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | ironic has several deployment drivers, IPA is the default one | 16:38 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen, no we can't | 16:38 |
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| mihgen | this will be very specific one? | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | it is just ironic model, if you need to do something specific, you need specific driver | 16:39 |
| kozhukalov | drivers are pluggable | 16:39 |
| angdraug | can we move on from why to what exactly this entails for Fuel? | 16:39 |
| kozhukalov | any vendor can invent their own driver | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | ok, why then it's gonna have 'fuel' name in that repo? | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | it is not for fuel | 16:40 |
| mihgen | if it's just ironic driver | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | it just uses fuel-agent | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | because fuel-agent | 16:40 |
| mihgen | ok I see now. | 16:41 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, we can rename fuel-agent into something and then call this repo ironic-something-driver | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:41 |
| kozhukalov | #topic FUTURE branch vs. early stable/X.Y (FF + 2 weeks) | 16:42 |
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| kozhukalov | last few days we have been discussing this topic in ml very intensively | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | i'd like to know what is our decision here | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | any opinions? | 16:43 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: in one of the private ones | 16:43 |
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| kozhukalov | maybe voting? | 16:43 |
| mihgen | there is no decision, and for stackforge infra gerrit - we should have public one | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen, do you mean we should take one more discussion iteration in openstack-dev? | 16:44 |
| mihgen | I don't think we should simply vote. we need to ensure everyone reads and understands all implications | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | we can provite summary email over there | 16:44 |
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| angdraug | yes, I think it's time to move this discussion to openstack-dv | 16:45 |
| angdraug | openstack-dev | 16:45 |
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| kozhukalov | in my opinion, all approaches have pros and cons, future branch is not so scalable as early stable branch because it assumes having a person duty to rebase | 16:45 |
| mihgen | guys but this is no less important then email about code review process | 16:45 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen, sure :) | 16:46 |
| mihgen | once we make a change, it will be hard to switch to something else | 16:46 |
| mihgen | kozhukalov: that's my least concern about rebasing | 16:46 |
| mattymo_ | I feel like it's too invasive to have to do repetitive code reviews to two "current" branches | 16:46 |
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| mattymo_ | but some people have good arguments | 16:46 |
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| mihgen | mattymo_: it's actually needs improvement | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | ok, let's have another iteration in openstack-dev | 16:47 |
| angdraug | I'm still against opening stable early | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | linux stable branch is being maintened by not so many people as far as I know | 16:47 |
| angdraug | it will multiply bugfixing overhead by at least 1.5 | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | #action angdraug initiates ML thread about branching approach in openstack-dev | 16:48 |
| mihgen | and mostly depends on one person, who makes decision whether this patch is ok for stable branch | 16:48 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: but slow down development of new features even more | 16:48 |
| angdraug | lets take it to openstack-dev | 16:48 |
| mihgen | instead of switching to the rapid development, with short iteration cycles, we would be sitting on bugs | 16:49 |
| mihgen | ok | 16:49 |
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| kozhukalov | open discussion then? | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | #topic open discussion | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | alex_didenko: what's up with bugs? | 16:50 |
| sbog | Mike, I hear you want to talk about bugs in SSL? | 16:50 |
| mihgen | where are we good and where we are bad? | 16:50 |
| mihgen | sbog: yes | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | I didn't see you in agenda unfortunately | 16:51 |
| mihgen | but we still have some time | 16:51 |
| sbog | We have one https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1485995 that was raised from high to medium. Actually, it is right, I think | 16:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485995 in Fuel for OpenStack 8.0.x "Link to UI in /etc/issue should point to https" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stanislaw Bogatkin (sbogatkin) | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | I think it can be considered UX bug of a high priority | 16:51 |
| sbog | But it is affect user expirience also, yep | 16:52 |
| mihgen | why are we so against of changing http: to https:// in welcome message? | 16:52 |
| sbog | holser, adidenko what you think about it? | 16:52 |
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| mihgen | alex_didenko: why do we consider https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214153/2/iso/ks.template as a disruptive change? It's UX gap | 16:53 |
| alex_didenko | we don't consider it as disruptive, but it's not a High bug according to our bugs triaging docs | 16:54 |
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| kozhukalov | are plane (non ssl) ports going to continue to serve? if so, it is not high, imo | 16:55 |
| alex_didenko | personally I don't mind to merge it, my only concern was bug priority | 16:56 |
| angdraug | I think this is high UX bug | 16:56 |
| mihgen | I'd say it's UX high bug | 16:56 |
| angdraug | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/How_to_contribute#Confirm_and_triage_bugs | 16:56 |
| angdraug | High = Requires modification of config files, interfaces that users aren't expected to use (ie the API when it's _intended_ to work in the CLI / UI (exclusive of interfaces that are intended to only be available via API) or requires custom node yaml (again except when it should exclusively be available) | 16:56 |
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| kozhukalov | this patch changes only text, nothing dangerous | 16:56 |
| angdraug | you need to know the port number and change it manually to get to https interface | 16:57 |
| mihgen | angdraug: +1 | 16:57 |
| alex_didenko | maybe it's better to setup a redirect then? | 16:57 |
| sbog | alex, we can't | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | alex_didenko: nope, redirect would be an invasive change | 16:57 |
| angdraug | redirect would be disruptive | 16:57 |
| mihgen | and we need backward compatibility | 16:57 |
| mihgen | for one release | 16:57 |
| sbog | it will break master node upgrade | 16:57 |
| mihgen | so clients which don't expect it - can continue to work | 16:58 |
| alex_didenko | ok, then pls post a comment why the bug is High, so it does not get lowered again | 16:58 |
| sbog | Okay, I will do it | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | time | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | 2 minutes | 16:58 |
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| kozhukalov | any other questions, topics, statements, announcements? | 16:59 |
| angdraug | no time ) | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | thank you very much for attending, closing | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 16:59:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-08-20-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-08-20-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-08-20-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
| mihgen | thanks | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 17:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| browne | hi | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei tmcpeak | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | yo | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | hi | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | hey there | 17:00 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: take it away | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 17:01 |
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| openstack | hyakuhei: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | it's already going :) | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | you're chair | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | oh hai | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | So my first topic was going to be the meeting topic :) | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | It should always be security | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | isn't it? | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | not ossg, openstack-security, security group etc | 17:02 |
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| tkelsey | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | It is this time, we have 4-5 in the IRC logs | 17:02 |
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| elmiko | doh | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah, I think those are old | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Just makes keeping track of the logs tricky, “ossg” was last week - not a big deal, just a quick thing to note | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | (I was making wiki edits immediately before this meeting | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | ahh crap, my bad | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | No worries, never actually formally set a policy around it | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Bad management if you ask me | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, Agenda | 17:03 |
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| elmiko | lol | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Anchor, Bandit, TA Efforts, Encryption, MidCycle | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | What else | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | fuzzing | 17:04 |
| elmiko | +1 | 17:04 |
| elmiko | (assuming the right folks are around) | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | cool, do we have anyone here that’s involved with the fuzzing workies? | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | jian5397: ^ | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | So tkelsey and viraptor(who isn’t here) have done a bunch of Anchor work | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | We just committed a bunch of stuff that breaks the API | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | I hear people like it when you do that | 17:06 |
| elmiko | oh, always | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | excellent | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | :D | 17:06 |
| redrobot | btw, Magnum is going to be using Anchor | 17:06 |
| dg_ | redrobot thats awesome | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | well we created a 0.1.0 tag before the breakage | 17:06 |
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| redrobot | and possibly barbican ca as well | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | and the API is now versioned, so this _shouldn't_ happen again | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | It is? Excellent, I’ve recently been looking more closely at Magnum | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | redrobot: I thought Barbican had it’s own snakeoil CA | 17:07 |
| redrobot | we do, but it had a bug when they evaluated it | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:07 |
| dg_ | lol | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | oh interesting, well the new changes don’t take much effort to keep up with and will make future work much easier | 17:08 |
| michaelxin | sorry that I am late. | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | Lots of internal changes, not using pyCryptography any more (for now, long term plan is to use it) | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | So we have some built in ASN1 munging to do the things we can’t bind easily through pyCryptography | 17:08 |
| redrobot | one thing we should pay attention to is that I heard from a 3rd party that they plan on using an interface for provisioning the certs | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey: anything to add? | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | redrobot: like what? | 17:09 |
| redrobot | so that anchor and/or barbican can be put behind the interface | 17:09 |
| tristanC | o/ | 17:09 |
| tkelsey | nope, i think thats about it | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | So Castellan for Certs ? | 17:09 |
| redrobot | something like oslo.ca or oslo.certificate_issue | 17:09 |
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| redrobot | hyakuhei yeah basically | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Seriously, Inception must be the favorite movie of every stacker | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | so many levels of indirection... | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | but yay Anchor :) | 17:10 |
| redrobot | hehe | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | ok | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Bandit | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | what’s the story? | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | im pushing on docs still | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | story is that we had a couple of bug fixes last week that necessitated new versions | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | the WIP is now removed, since 0.13.2 landed | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | TIm is pushing docs like a crazy man, viraptor is doing his usual whirlwind of performance improvements | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | yup, viraptor dropped some good perf patches | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | sweet | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | that's roughly it | 17:12 |
| browne | i cleaned up all of the bugs that were released | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | we have a lot we want to do at midcycle | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | namely better unit testing, release automation, etc | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | browne: I noticed, good stuff :) | 17:12 |
| browne | a bunch were left in fix commented | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | ahh yeah, thanks for that browne | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | if we can carve out some cycles at midcycle for Bandit we should be in great shape | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | I'd like to circle back and start selling to projects again | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah we have some time laid down in the etherpad | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | look at how much fun bknudson is having, etc etc | 17:13 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:13 |
| bknudson | hard to convince reviewers to prioritize my bandit config updates over all the other work | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: how can we help? (if at all) | 17:14 |
| bknudson | it's nice just to have it running | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: I’ll volunteer to reach out to people if that helps | 17:14 |
| bknudson | do lots of reviews in keystone and become core reviewers | 17:14 |
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| tmcpeak | lol | 17:14 |
| michaelxin | +1 | 17:14 |
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| tmcpeak | that's all I had for Bandit, unless anybody else wants to add something | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks tmcpeak et al! | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Threat Analysis | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | threat analysis? | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | So this has stalled pretty much as the ncie chap that was leading it has been absent for a long time | 17:15 |
| michaelxin | threat modeling? | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | same diff (at least for this meeting) | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Lots of orgs are doing TA work | 17:16 |
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| hyakuhei | on OpenStack | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | and we are overalapping on a lot of things | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | and all missing things too | 17:16 |
| bknudson | if orgs aren't doing TA work they should be | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: +1 | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: some who should, aren't | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | anyway - digression | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | I want to do some combination/normalization | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | and then push the results into the open | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | interesting | 17:17 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:17 |
| michaelxin | Do we know what have been done? | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | with continued efforts to progress and update | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | michaelxin: HP’s done everything that’s in our product portfolio | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | (Not bragging but we have 3-5 FTE on it) | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | Openly we’ve done only one small part of Keystone (The OSSG) | 17:18 |
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| michaelxin | hyakuhei: will you guys share? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | yeah | 17:18 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: +100 | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | but we don’t want to be the only ones showing the world our underpants | 17:18 |
| bknudson | you should brag about that | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | bknudson: I’m happy to but not in the context of the Security project ;) | 17:19 |
| michaelxin | we also have some data flow diagrams for some projects | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Anyway, I’m hoping to make this work either at the mid-cycle or during some of the summit sessions | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | devil is going to be in keeping the upstream TA's synchronized | 17:19 |
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| hyakuhei | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Threat_Analysis | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | ^ Current, abandoned efforts | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | and ensuring that participating organizations continue to contribute, etc | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | s/abandoned/stalled/ | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah there’s lots of chasing things | 17:20 |
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| elmiko | hyakuhei: sounds like a good effort | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | The idea is to only review the “Core” stuff | 17:20 |
| bknudson | might be easier to document the threat analysis now that we've got more docs | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | which we’d have to simply agree by a show of hands | 17:20 |
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| bknudson | and the docs are in rst | 17:20 |
| elmiko | ;) | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | our respective orgs would have to do delta reviews on our add-onn value-add whatever | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: this is a good idea though, all these saved hours can go into making OpenStack more secure/better | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | So I don’t have any actions for any of you other than please think about this, if you work for a big vendor I’m going to be knocking on your door soon | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | no sense in 5 parallel efforts to TA Nova | 17:21 |
| michaelxin | tmcpeak: +1 | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Superb | 17:22 |
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| hyakuhei | So the problem tends to be getting the right people in the room | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | As you really need cores/PTLs to make it work | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | and how will we do "in the room"? | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Indeed | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | At one point we discussed sending some of our folk to 3-5 of the mid-cycles | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Trying to spend a day at each one deep diving | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, I'm not sure 1 day there is enough | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | It depends on dept | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | *depth | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | the people that are working on it for us spend weeks tracking things down, revising diagrams, etc | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | The inital approach attempted to do full functional decompisition | 17:24 |
| michaelxin | we can pick one for exercise purpose | 17:24 |
| michaelxin | See what works and what does not | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: True, though most of the heavy lifting on that is the firt set of documentation | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | Keystone might be a good choice since we have bknudson and could probably get ayoung to play | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | after that (major re-writes notwithstanding) it should be deltas that need reviewing | 17:25 |
| bknudson | hp has a few cores and PTL in keystone. | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, I don’t want to get too far into the detail here | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | IRC isn’t the best format for what is a lengthy conversation | 17:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | michaelxin: we (Rackspace) have a few Glance cores + a couple OSSG members | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | but I think the time has come to reboot these efforts | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, sounds good | 17:25 |
| michaelxin | sigmavirus24: +1 | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | maybe we can carve out a few hours planning at midcycle? | 17:26 |
| yaya | +1 | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | I’m happy to lead but it might be a nice opportunity for someone else to pick up an activitiy | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: +1 I’m adding it to the etherpad shortly | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | Security has a much bigger profile than the last time we tried so fingers crossed we’ll get more traction this time. | 17:26 |
| * sigmavirus24 sighs | 17:26 | |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm going to miss so much by not being at the midcycle | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | I told you mr. virus | 17:27 |
| dg_ | hyakuhei got a link for the etherpad? | 17:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: does "YOLO" apply here? | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-liberty-midcycle | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: kind of ;) | 17:27 |
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| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: then I invoke "YOLO" (whatever that means) | 17:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | (dang kids) | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | lol | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Crypto | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | There’s lots going on at the moment | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | There’s the audit stuff we wanted to do but nkinder was leading and has been too busy | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Then there’s oversight and tracking of the openstack native encryption services. | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Both need work and attention | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | It’s another opportunity for someone to become the shining light of OpenStack security | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | or I’ll try to get around to it - possibly also something that could get bootstrapped at the mid-cycle | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | Thoughts? | 17:32 |
| elmiko | sounds cool | 17:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | hyakuhei: what if they don't want to be shiny? =P | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: crypto tracking can be a small Bandit tweak | 17:32 |
| elmiko | nice idea tmcpeak | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: it needs to be reported/centralized | 17:32 |
| elmiko | it just means every project needs to run bandit ;) | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: no problem ,we can push our JSON results to a server | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | and then do some parsin | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | g | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | The tracking is about what algorithms get used where, why and are they appropriate. Can they be configured or are they hard coded etc. | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: I don't think so, we can just have a list of repos, and then iterate, clone, report, and move on | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: It’s a good idea | 17:33 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: even better | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | low effort approach anyway | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | could probably bang that up in a few hours | 17:34 |
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| michaelxin | +1 | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: I'm happy to carve a few hours for that at midcycle | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | Sweet | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | #topic MidCycle | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | where is nkinder anyway? | 17:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "MidCycle (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:35 | |
| hyakuhei | So I’m assuming everyone confirmed on the etherpad is coming (yay!) | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | he still have a conflict for this meeting? | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | ya | 17:35 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: i assume so, haven't talked with him recently | 17:36 |
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| tmcpeak | ahh ok cool | 17:36 |
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| michaelxin | hyakuhei: I am | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | hopefully he can get to the midcycle | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | I’m going to get food orders sorted soon, basically there’s a big area with snacks/drinks whatever available in the office | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll get breakfast and lunch sorted for day 1, a general mix of food for vedgies/meaties | 17:36 |
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| bknudson | there's a place where they throw fish around nearby | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | and we’ll sort out what to do from then on, as with the SF midcycle | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | That work? | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:37 |
| elmiko | sounds good | 17:37 |
| michaelxin | bknudson: +1 | 17:37 |
| bknudson | put me down as a meatie | 17:37 |
| elmiko | i added a session topic to the etherpad, wasn't sure about the general form. i hope it's ok | 17:37 |
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| elmiko | and put me down as a veggie plz =) | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll just cut a 65% meaty line | 17:38 |
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| elmiko | lol, nice | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | Everyone booked/sorted for the mid-cycle then? | 17:38 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: booked here | 17:39 |
| elmiko | same, booked and sorted | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent! | 17:39 |
| bknudson | we going to need visitor badges and stuff? | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: you can just grab them day 1 | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah, just bring some ID | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | go up the elevator, cause a commotion to get security interested, explain you're there for the lols | 17:40 |
| bknudson | for the YOLOs | 17:40 |
| elmiko | nice | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | So that’s all I had for today | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | API testing | 17:41 |
| michaelxin | tmcpeak: yes | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | #topic API testing/fuzzing | 17:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API testing/fuzzing (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:41 | |
| michaelxin | The PoC is working now | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | sweet, linkies? | 17:41 |
| michaelxin | We are polishing the documentations | 17:41 |
| michaelxin | adding examples. | 17:42 |
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| michaelxin | it should be ready for public by early next week. | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:42 |
| michaelxin | it is still early stage | 17:42 |
| bknudson | is it a tool? | 17:42 |
| michaelxin | We want your feedbacks before adding more stuff | 17:42 |
| michaelxin | bknudson: Yes, it is a standalone tool. | 17:42 |
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| bknudson | neat | 17:43 |
| michaelxin | For current example, we are using keystone API | 17:43 |
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| michaelxin | Wish that it will become an openstack security tool | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | michaelxin: sounds good | 17:43 |
| bknudson | keystone added input validation with JSON schema to the v3 api so that should help | 17:43 |
| tristanC | michaelxin: may I ask what inputs does it need to run ? | 17:43 |
| bknudson | that was something a guy from our group was working on (not to brag) | 17:44 |
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| michaelxin | tristanC: valid payload | 17:44 |
| michaelxin | like HTTP request in burp. | 17:44 |
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| michaelxin | We do have extension enabling automatic authentication with tokens replaced. | 17:45 |
| tristanC | interesting, so can you for example convert a tempest run into usable payload ? | 17:45 |
| michaelxin | In configuration files, you set up user name and password, etc. | 17:45 |
| michaelxin | At this stage, no | 17:46 |
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| michaelxin | We have some discussion about generating the usable payloads. | 17:46 |
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| michaelxin | But the project is in early stage. | 17:46 |
| michaelxin | We want to focus on fuzzing and testing | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | I’m really looking forward to experimenting with this michaelxin | 17:47 |
| elmiko | likewise | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | yeah should be very cool | 17:47 |
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| michaelxin | hyakuhei: we look forward to your feedbacks | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | I’m sure there’ll be some ;) | 17:47 |
| michaelxin | At this stage, it is only a PoC. | 17:47 |
| michaelxin | Too much expectation might kill me. :-) | 17:48 |
| tristanC | fair enough, does it have a name yet ? :) | 17:48 |
| michaelxin | we code name it syntribos | 17:48 |
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| michaelxin | I will make it available next week in openstack-security room | 17:49 |
| michaelxin | If you have any question, you can find me over there. | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | great! | 17:49 |
| tristanC | michaelxin: thanks | 17:49 |
| michaelxin | tristanC: You are welcome | 17:50 |
| michaelxin | that's all for me | 17:50 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | michaelxin: Did you want to make syntribos an official OpenStack Security Activity ? | 17:51 |
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| hyakuhei | I don’t like the word project as everything is a project already | 17:51 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: Sure | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | The list of Security Project Projects... | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | Great :D | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | When you’re ready to release we’ll setup a repo for it | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | Straight to the big-tent for you ;) | 17:52 |
| elmiko | nice | 17:52 |
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| michaelxin | haha, Thanks. | 17:53 |
| hyakuhei | Great, anything else before we close this out? | 17:53 |
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| tmcpeak | should be good, thanks hyakuhei! | 17:54 |
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| elmiko | oh | 17:54 |
| michaelxin | hyakuhei: tmcpeak Thanks | 17:54 |
| elmiko | ossn triage for mid-cycle? | 17:54 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, we should do that for sure | 17:55 |
| elmiko | i can add it to the pad | 17:55 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: +1 | 17:55 |
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| elmiko | k, added | 17:56 |
| tmcpeak | cool, thanks elmiko | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | good point | 17:57 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, that's a wrap then | 17:57 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 17:58:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-08-20-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-08-20-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-08-20-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak, hyakuhei | 17:58 |
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| hyakuhei | Good meeting, thanks all :) | 17:58 |
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| egafford | o/ | 18:00 |
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| elmiko | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 18:01:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:01 |
| vgridnev | o/ | 18:01 |
| huichun | hello | 18:01 |
| elmiko | hi | 18:01 |
| egafford | Hi all! | 18:01 |
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| elmiko | let's give folks a minute or two to get here | 18:01 |
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| crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:02 |
| elmiko | #chair SergeyLukjanov | 18:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SergeyLukjanov elmiko | 18:02 |
| tosky | hi | 18:02 |
| elmiko | ok then | 18:02 |
| apavlov | hi | 18:02 |
| elmiko | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:03 | |
| crobertsrh | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | Review early and often | 18:03 |
| elmiko | thank you sir | 18:03 |
| elmiko | any news to report? | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | Once we get 3 or 4 +1s, we can bug a horiz core. | 18:03 |
| elmiko | or just review, review, review ;) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry folks, a bit late | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hi all | 18:03 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 18:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | no news here from my side | 18:03 |
| elmiko | hey SergeyLukjanov, just started. all yours =) | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | Even if your review is mostly a functional review of how great the code ran for you, we'll take it. | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, is it already helping us to make changes merging? | 18:04 |
| crobertsrh | Does anyone know of more UI changes needed for L functionality? | 18:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I mean move to the contrib | 18:04 |
| sreshetnyak | o/ | 18:04 |
| crobertsrh | Not sure if the move to contrib really helps anything, but the agreement that we can do reviews on our stuff and get a single +2 has helped a bit | 18:05 |
| crobertsrh | It is probably in our best interest to get our own repo going again at some point, maybe for M. | 18:05 |
| elmiko | lol, the move back to sahara-dashboard? | 18:05 |
| crobertsrh | It will be a bit sad to lose the eyes of the cores on our stuff though. | 18:06 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | +1 | 18:06 |
| tosky | first let's see how it works, I would say | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but anyway we should evaluate pros and cons of staying in the horizon repo vs moving back to the sahara-dashboard | 18:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yeah, I think we could wait till the summit | 18:07 |
| elmiko | that's a wise move, imp | 18:07 |
| elmiko | imo* | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and if there will be no significant improvements on the review time then we'll need to move back to the sahara-dashboard IMO | 18:07 |
| egafford | +1. | 18:08 |
| crobertsrh | +1 | 18:08 |
| NikitaKonovalov | +1 | 18:08 |
| vgridnev | +1 | 18:08 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:08 |
| david-lyle | I honestly think that's a wise move | 18:08 |
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| david-lyle | I keep pushing for more reviews, but they're not happening | 18:08 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, it's just the nature of the beast | 18:09 |
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| david-lyle | I will make sure more of those patches merge before liberty | 18:09 |
| egafford | Thanks david-lyle. | 18:09 |
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| david-lyle | but the split will be much easier now, if desired | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | david-lyle, thx! | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I think that it'll be a great topic for the summit discussion | 18:11 |
| elmiko | awesome | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | will see how the contrib model will work in the next two month | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | IMO it could work good enough for us, just core reviewers needs some time to start using it | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to chat about in the ui topic? | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, let's move on | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #agreed monitor how contrib and +1 from sahara team == +2 helps merging patches to horizon and have a session about it on summit | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:14 |
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| apavlov | Working on acl pathces and grenade job. Finally make it work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193101/ | 18:14 |
| egafford | Potentially mergeable version of the interface UI is up. Beyond that, bug triage and prep for bugfix @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-bug-fix-day. We have a bit of pruning of old bugs to do, especially in the medium prio range. | 18:15 |
| elmiko | i have a few keystone session patches up, and i'm working to get the improved secret store patches ready for push. | 18:15 |
| NikitaKonovalov | not much of an update form me. mostly busy with internal activities | 18:15 |
| vgridnev | no so much from me, filed important bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1486544 | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486544 in Sahara "[Spark1.3] Spark jobs doesn't work with Swift" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Trevor McKay (tmckay) | 18:15 |
| sreshetnyak | I'm working on wait condition support for heat engine. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214568/ | 18:15 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: the spec has been approved, but will i need ffe for the improved sec stuff if i propose the patches after the freeze? | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yay! we have scenario tests in the gate based on the fake plugin now, that are still non-voting, but I think we could make them voting next week. this jobs are testing (nova-net or neutron) X (direct or heat), so, we could say that proviosning engines are very good covered in the upstream gate (sample https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214205/ ) | 18:16 |
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| huichun | still working on edp job features | 18:16 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yes | 18:17 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ack, i'll post something to the ML | 18:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, but you have 2 weeks till the FF | 18:17 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: cool, i'm mainly waiting on the castellan update to pypi. so i'm not sure when that will happen | 18:17 |
| tosky | no much from me either, I will start more testing after the freeze | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | egafford, awesome etherpad for the bug fix day! | 18:17 |
| * redrobot pokes head in | 18:18 | |
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| tmckay | hey there | 18:18 |
| redrobot | elmiko we're waiting on a python-barbicanclient release first... it's in progress now. As soon as that's done we can release a new Castellan | 18:18 |
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| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: Thanks; there are some more mediums to grab in once we've pruned down, but there's certainly more than enough to start. :) | 18:18 |
| elmiko | redrobot: awesome, thanks! | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | redrobot, if you need help from the release mgmt side, please, ping me, I can help with it | 18:19 |
| redrobot | thanks SergeyLukjanov. We're currently waiting for a change to gerrit acls to allow relmgt team to push tags | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | redrobot, send me a link, I'll +2 it | 18:20 |
| redrobot | SergeyLukjanov https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215269/ | 18:20 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: on the triage effort, we made it most of the way through the 33 untriaged bugs, a few new ones were added, and many were closed out | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yeah, that's great! | 18:20 |
| egafford | (Thanks for picking all that up and running with it, elmiko!) | 18:21 |
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| elmiko | np | 18:21 |
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| tmckay | so, I have a solution to the swift/spark bug found by vgridnev, just working out the best way to incorporate in current code | 18:21 |
| tmckay | summary, bug in spark was fixed, so sahara broke :) | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, have you seen new gate jobs based on scenario tests/ | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay :) | 18:22 |
| tmckay | vgridnev, ++ to you for adding spark/swift integration job | 18:22 |
| tmckay | I always meant to do that .... | 18:22 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: I have seen the proposals and the reviews, not yet the jobs themselves | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, thay are now non-voting check pipeline | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky sample: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214205/ | 18:23 |
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| elmiko | kudos to all on the scenario tests. i've been running them locally and i'm impressed with how well they integrate | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, gate-sahara-dsvm-scenario-<network>-<engine> | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hopefully, we'll keep improving them :) | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Bug triage / fix days / doc days progress | 18:25 |
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| huichun | hi Trevor, need help on scheduler edp. patch review and recurrence spec review ^_^ | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, was it added by you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1419643 | 18:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419643 in Sahara "saharaclient should check the input param when cluster-create" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to warewang (wangguangcai) | 18:25 |
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| elmiko | yes | 18:25 |
| elmiko | this bug looked like we needed to discuss what should happen | 18:26 |
| elmiko | or even if we need to change anything | 18:26 |
| huichun | tmckay: ^_^ | 18:26 |
| tmckay | huichun, yes, sorry. I let myself get distracted. | 18:26 |
| elmiko | so, if a user runs the sahara cli tool and provides no stdin with --json, the tool will wait indefinitely | 18:26 |
| elmiko | obviously, waiting for input | 18:26 |
| elmiko | the question is, is this even a bug, or just bad behavior ;) | 18:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hm | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko good question :) | 18:27 |
| elmiko | hehe ;) | 18:27 |
| elmiko | we have no way of detecting whether the user is getting ready to pipe something or not. so i'm not sure | 18:27 |
| * egafford votes for exiting with an error if stdin is not immediately extant; better to not block scripts without explanation than to support freestyle json at the bash prompt (which I can't really see many people doing.) | 18:28 | |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I would say that it's a normal behavoir | 18:28 |
| egafford | (Just one opinion.) | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | because I see uage of it to pipe cat blabla.json | 18:28 |
| elmiko | yea, i can see this either way. i mean there are plenty of cli tools that will do the same | 18:28 |
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| egafford | Can we time out at least? | 18:29 |
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| tellesnobrega | i agree that its normal behaviour but i think we should exit and error | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | an* | 18:29 |
| elmiko | egafford: i thought about that, but then people will just get p.o.'d waiting for the timeout | 18:29 |
| egafford | elmiko: Valid. | 18:30 |
| elmiko | that being said, i'm also ok with just erroring out if nothing is immediately provided | 18:30 |
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| elmiko | also, it might be worth looking at the openstackclient to see what it does when it expects some json | 18:30 |
| tmckay | my opinion, works the same as cat | 18:31 |
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| tmckay | as long as it's documented in the help | 18:31 |
| elmiko | tmckay: so, just leave it as is then? | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO if user exec "sahara cluster-create --json" than it's absolutely okay to wait for the input | 18:31 |
| tmckay | elmiko, I think so | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's like user creating cluster but not specifying anything | 18:31 |
| elmiko | right | 18:31 |
| tosky | can't we use the '-' to say that it's stdin? | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's okay - if you're not specify any options :) | 18:31 |
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| elmiko | tosky: that's a nice idea too | 18:32 |
| tmckay | hmm, we could force an argument and use "-" for stdin as tosky says | 18:32 |
| elmiko | right | 18:32 |
| elmiko | would someone mind making this comment on the bug? | 18:32 |
| sreshetnyak | tosky: +1 | 18:32 |
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| egafford | I prefer that. Leave the option, but make people reach for that, instead of get confused by the possibly unintended default behavior. | 18:33 |
| tmckay | any precedent for this on other openstack clis? | 18:33 |
| elmiko | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1419643 | 18:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419643 in Python client library for Sahara "saharaclient should check the input param when cluster-create" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to warewang (wangguangcai) | 18:33 |
| tosky | (thanks all, but credit to pinotree for the idea :) | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm ok with - for stdin | 18:33 |
| elmiko | tmckay: that was my question about the openstackclient | 18:33 |
| egafford | +1 to all Toscanos. | 18:33 |
| egafford | (Blanket rule.) | 18:33 |
| elmiko | tosky: no, if he doesn't speak up then you get the credit ;) | 18:33 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:33 |
| tmckay | so do we break backward compatibilyt if someone has scripted around the CLI? :) | 18:34 |
| elmiko | #agreed change saharaclient to exit with error if not provided any input, and take "-" argument to specify that stdin input is expected | 18:34 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i think so | 18:34 |
| tmckay | like, a --json << would work, wouldn't it? | 18:34 |
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| elmiko | good question | 18:35 |
| tmckay | I mean, what if we just put a "***** Waiting for Input! ******" line on the screen? | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I don't think that it will work | 18:35 |
| tmckay | how big a deal is this? | 18:35 |
| elmiko | i don't think it's a huge deal, but just came up on the bug | 18:36 |
| tosky | it's already kind of not working even now | 18:36 |
| elmiko | and honestly, we should move on and just add comments to the bug report imo | 18:36 |
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| egafford | tmckay: I think we only break backward compatibility if someone has scripted around the idea that they'll run a script that will prompt them to write a JSON file halfway through. Are there other breaking cases? | 18:36 |
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| tmckay | k. I'll +2 anything, completely don't care ;-) | 18:36 |
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| elmiko | lol | 18:36 |
| elmiko | let's move on, enough bike-shedding, please add comments on the bug report =) | 18:37 |
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| elmiko | thanks for talking it through though | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else re bug/doc days? | 18:37 |
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| elmiko | doc pad will be up next week | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | cool | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Client release plans | 18:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, we have 0.10.0 released and then 0.10.1 with a hot fix for backward compat issue | 18:38 |
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| elmiko | sounds good | 18:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm expecting to have 0.11.0 release in the end of next weeK (?) with rest of the features merged | 18:42 |
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| elmiko | quick turn around ;) | 18:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic API v2 | 18:43 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, please | 18:43 |
| elmiko | ok, then | 18:44 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov, you brought up the idea the cluster actions in the v2 spec review | 18:44 |
| elmiko | i'd like to talk about that in the larger scope of creating a /tasks and /tasks/{task_id} endpoints | 18:44 |
| elmiko | instead of just creating one for clusters, we could make a more general purpose endpoint | 18:45 |
| elmiko | and this would give us a nice way to handle asynchronous operations | 18:45 |
| elmiko | it would entail creating a new database table for the tasks, but i think we could make good use of it | 18:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sounds interesting | 18:46 |
| SergeyLukjanov | do we have something similar to it in other openstack projects? | 18:46 |
| elmiko | it has been proposed before by jaypipes | 18:46 |
| elmiko | i will need to look around for examples | 18:46 |
| elmiko | the idea i took from it was to replace the actions stuff in nova with a more generic interface that treats the individual actions(tasks) as resources | 18:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okey | 18:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to chat here? | 18:48 |
| elmiko | i think for the first run at the v2 api, we could mention this, whether its cluster actions or tasks, and then create a spec to address it | 18:48 |
| elmiko | no, just that i'd like more reviews on the v2 spec as i'd like to start creating the patches for the experimental api | 18:49 |
| egafford | elmiko: I love the idea of a tasks resource. I think there's a significant discussion on whether you, say, PUT to the tasks endpoint to create a cluster, or PUT to the cluster endpoint and get back a ref to a cluster and a task as a side effect, which you can then poll, but the idea itself is really solid, and will allow us to do some really clarifying things to our flows. | 18:50 |
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| elmiko | egafford: agreed, i'm not sure about that either. ideally we wouldn't want to change too much of the mechanics around clusters and jobs, but it's a thought | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ++ | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, let's continue discussion on the spec review | 18:51 |
| elmiko | thanks | 18:51 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, thx for keep pushing the v2 API :) | 18:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:51 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: i'm trying ;) | 18:52 |
| elmiko | did you want to talk about zaqar and guest agent? | 18:52 |
| crobertsrh | ooh, another good topic elmiko | 18:52 |
| elmiko | (in fairness i think SergeyLukjanov added it to the agenda) | 18:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | oh, I've missed it | 18:53 |
| tmckay | lets do it before the freeze :) | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:53 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Sahara / Zaqar integration for guest agents implementation | 18:53 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, flaper87 said that mostly all need functionally is ready from the Zaqar side | 18:54 |
| elmiko | i think zaqar is a good path to investigate for a guest agent | 18:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we need to start working on the specs from sahara side | 18:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | does somebody wants to work on it? | 18:54 |
| tosky | guest agent, wasn't there an idea for an unified guest agent (like one year ago)? | 18:54 |
| tmckay | so, what is the goal? Are we trying to get rid of all the ssh usage? | 18:54 |
| elmiko | i'm doing some zaqar investigation, i'd be happy to help | 18:54 |
| tmckay | Should we start with a subset, and switch incrementall? | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yeah | 18:55 |
| tellesnobrega | i want to help out as well | 18:55 |
| elmiko | but i don't want to take lead on this one | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the goal is to migrate to the better communication with VMs | 18:55 |
| tmckay | do we use it during provisioning, too? | 18:55 |
| elmiko | good question | 18:55 |
| tmckay | I think we could start with a small test case | 18:55 |
| elmiko | if we put the agent on during image creation then we could use it during provisioning | 18:55 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in fact to replace ssh with unified agents with configurable transport | 18:55 |
| egafford | elmiko: I'd like to help as well; I work with two of the Zaqar folks pretty closely, and have meant to get involved for a while. Also unclear whether I can take lead on that, though. | 18:55 |
| elmiko | cool, sounds like we have a good group that could take on the work | 18:56 |
| egafford | So maybe we can just gaggle our way to success. :) | 18:56 |
| egafford | COMMUNITY. | 18:56 |
| tellesnobrega | :) | 18:56 |
| elmiko | well, someone is gonna need to take point on creating the spec | 18:56 |
| egafford | True. | 18:56 |
| elmiko | and there are a few sources i can point towards in terms of the larger openstack effort to solve some of the issues surrounding this | 18:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, egafford, please involve me into discussions too, I have a bunch of ideas :) | 18:57 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: definitely | 18:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | flaper87 said that he will send some materials on it later | 18:57 |
| tmckay | I'll be involved too. | 18:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | cool | 18:57 |
| tmckay | If nobody else wants to lead the spec, I can | 18:58 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: also, i've added a topic about this to the security mid-cycle meetup, see "Secure communications between control plane and tenant plane" on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-liberty-midcycle | 18:58 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Last minute open discussion | 18:58 |
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| egafford | Once we have a solid idea of what we're going for and a minimal POC, I'm good taking on the spec if we like. Oh, cool tmckay. Sounds good. :) | 18:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yeah, I'm dreaming about it | 18:58 |
| elmiko | hehe | 18:58 |
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| tmckay | egafford, really, you can do it :) | 18:58 |
| egafford | tmckay: We can talk about it. | 18:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | in fact it'll be great to figure out how to build unified agent on top of zaqar and probably start it as a separated project and then use in sahara | 18:59 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:59 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: YES. | 18:59 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | 30 sec left | 18:59 |
| tosky | +1 for unified agent | 18:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 19:00:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-20-18.01.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-20-18.01.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-20-18.01.log.html | 19:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thanks folks! | 19:00 |
| tmckay | thanks, bye | 19:00 |
| tosky | bye | 19:00 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks, bye | 19:00 |
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| egafford | Bye all! | 19:00 |
| elmiko | thanks SergeyLukjanov | 19:00 |
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| huichun | bye | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 19:03:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Roll Call | 19:03 |
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| sriram | _/\_ | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever is out | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | malini is hiding | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | big crowd lol | 19:05 |
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| malini | o/ | 19:05 |
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| malini | :D | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok lets make this a quick meeting | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | not much to cover today | 19:06 |
| sriram | okay so whats the agenda amitgandhinz? | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Recap | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-08-06-18.59.html | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | malini to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/155119 | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | this is merged | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | malini to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/169611 | 19:07 |
| sriram | lots of ressurections | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | this is conflicted | 19:07 |
| malini | I have a halo around my head | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/169611 | 19:07 |
| malini | we have another patch for tht | 19:07 |
| malini | from henry | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | can we abandon that then | 19:07 |
| malini | I will abandom 169611 after Henry's patch is merged | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to abandom 169611 after Henry's patch is merged | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/143192 | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | roll over | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to resurrect https://review.openstack.org/143192 | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | but the review queue looks much much better now | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | good work team on getting that cleaned up | 19:08 |
| sriram | +1 to that | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Liberty-3 | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty-3 (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:09 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/liberty-3 | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/gate-api-tests | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | this still has slow progress by me | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | this has parts in review | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/notification-driver | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | this is merged | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | any other work that needs discussing? | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | in terms of bugs/bps | 19:11 |
| * amitgandhinz crickets | 19:11 | |
| malini | nope | 19:11 |
| sriram | nope | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:11 | |
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| sriram | just fixing fixing fixing | 19:12 |
| sriram | tests | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | those api tests will be so green that kermit will be jeolous | 19:12 |
| sriram | they better. | 19:12 |
| sriram | ha | 19:12 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok i dont have anything interesting to talk about today | 19:12 |
| malini | If it stays green for two days, we shud have a party | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | haha | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | just not at one of those green healthy food places please | 19:13 |
| malini | :D | 19:13 |
| sriram | lets make it happen | 19:13 |
| sriram | no one merge anything for 2 days | 19:13 |
| sriram | then paartaaaay | 19:13 |
| malini | :D | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | hehe | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok this meeting is going to the weeds | 19:13 |
| sriram | alright see ya | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks everyone | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:14 | |
| malini | thanks | 19:14 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 19:14:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-08-20-19.03.html | 19:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-08-20-19.03.txt | 19:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-08-20-19.03.log.html | 19:14 |
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