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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 23 15:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
cknightHi15:00
toabctlhi15:00
rrajahi15:00
garysmith_hi15:00
xyang2hi15:00
vponomaryovHello15:00
ganso_hello15:00
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u_glidehello15:00
csaba1hi15:00
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:00
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bswartztoabctl: since you asked, we now have stable/kilo of python-manilaclient15:01
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bswartzhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-manilaclient/15:01
toabctlbswartz: cool. thx15:01
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bswartzstable branches of clients is a new thing15:02
ZhongjunHi15:02
marksturhi15:02
bswartzwe will see how it goes15:02
rushilhi15:02
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bswartzalso, there are 2 core team nominations on the ML15:02
toabctlbswartz: but I learned in #openstack-oslo that I should track the tagged versions15:02
bswartztoabctl: okay -- at least we have a way to backport stuff to the kilo branch if we should need to15:03
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toabctlyes.15:03
tbarronhi15:03
bswartz#topic doc reviews15:03
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bswartzso there was a question a while back about what the procedure should be if you're reviewing a doc and you have a lot of comments15:04
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bswartzusing gerrit to provide that kind of feedback is not ideal15:04
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bswartzit was proposed that reviewer should simply push their own edit patch back to gerrit with the changes made15:05
bswartzreviewers*15:05
cknight#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-fixed-it-for-you15:05
bswartzhowever if you do that while the original author is working on another revision, pushing a patch can do more harm than good15:06
xyang2agreed, coordination with the original author is important15:06
bswartzso my suggestion would be to talk to the original author first, and with permission, go ahead and push an edit patch15:06
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bswartzdoes that seem like a good process to follow for doc reviews?15:06
xyang2doc team does that because non-doc author doesn't understand the syntax15:07
u_glide+15:07
bswartzfor comments that might require debate we can still use gerrit reviews15:07
marksturbswartz replied with a list of things to do.  Seemed like if you follow the process it would cover the communication part15:07
bswartzbut for simple non-controversial edits this should hopefully save time15:07
xyang2but if it has to do with the content, that is different15:07
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markstur"simple" can be done in gerrit to avoid conflict, though15:08
xyang2+115:08
bswartzdoes anyone dislike the idea of pushing edits to other people's doc changes?15:08
cknightxyang2: +1  The proposed mechanism is best for large numbers of simple grammatical or stylistic edits.15:08
bswartzmarkstur: yeah if it's 2 or 3 small things then gerrit also works15:08
xyang2I don't like it15:08
bswartzwhen it's 200 small things gerrit doesn't work so well15:08
marksturI dislike only if the author is suprised/annoyed by the "help"15:08
marksturbswartz, _115:08
marksturbswartz, +1 i meant15:08
xyang2I think the reviewer should get the author's permission15:09
bswartzxyang2: yes that was the proposal15:09
vponomaryov+1 xyang2, ok with "agreed" help15:09
bswartzget permission, then push an edit patch15:09
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toabctl+115:09
bswartzxyang2: are you okay with that?15:09
xyang2bswartz: yes15:10
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bswartzokay15:10
xyang2if reviewer pushes up something that the original author doesn't like, then the original author can push back the original change.  that will become a battle15:10
vponomaryovprobability is 99% =)15:11
bswartz#agreed for multiple small doc comments that are non controversial, reviewers should push an edit patch rather than doing a gerrit review after obtaining permission from the original author15:11
bswartz#topic liberty design summit15:11
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bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-proposed-sessions15:11
bswartzI still haven't added anything here15:12
bswartzbut this is the last week to make proposals, so I definitely will15:12
bswartzand I encourage all of you to do so as well15:12
vponomaryovZhongjun asked about implementation of QoS15:12
bswartzwe have 7 slots in Vancouver15:12
toabctlpeople should ad their names to the etherpad in the top-right corner15:13
bswartzsome of which conflict with cinder (I'm trying to fix that)15:13
marksturI think the sched is alread "fixed" somewhat15:13
bswartzmarkstur: that may be15:13
markstursched https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsFdRYGbX5eCde81XDV7TrPBfEC7cgtOFikruYmqbPY/edit#gid=56996312815:14
bswartzin any case, some conflicts with cinder slots are unavoidable, so for anyone involved in both projects, I'm sorry15:14
marksturstill some overlap, but cinder is changing rooms, they will just think you got lost15:14
bswartzokay15:15
bswartzlooks like 2 of our sessions got de-conflicted15:15
bswartzthe other 2 were unavoidable15:15
bswartzthanks markstur15:15
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bswartzokay15:16
bswartzvponomaryov: tell him to add it to the etherpad15:16
bswartzall ideas should go on the etherpad15:16
bswartzwe can always prune and combine ideas15:17
bswartzbut if it's not on the etherpad it won't be considered15:17
bswartzthat's really all I have on the design summit15:17
bswartzwe'll spend most of next meeting on that topic15:17
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bswartz#topic  Mount automation15:18
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xyang2bswartz: how long is each working session?15:18
bswartzxyang: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsFdRYGbX5eCde81XDV7TrPBfEC7cgtOFikruYmqbPY/edit?pli=1#gid=56996312815:18
cknightIn Paris, we started discussing mount automation.15:18
bswartztimes are on the left15:18
cknightThere were several suggestions from the community.15:18
bswartz40 minutes + 10 minute breaks15:18
cknightOne of them was zeroconf.  Does anyone recollect who suggested that?15:19
vponomaryovcknight: marcusvrn?15:19
bswartzyes never got around to working on mount automation during kilo, so it's high on the list for Liberty15:19
bswartzwe* never15:19
cknightThanks, vponomaryov, I'll reach out to him.  We've been researching zeroconf, but it doesn't seem like a panacea.15:20
bswartzzeroconf sounded really attractive when we discussed it in Paris15:20
cknightIn fact, all options have limitations, so it will probably require a multi-faceted solution.15:20
bswartzbut after looking at it more closely it has drawbacks like all the other proposals15:20
cknightDoes anyone here have a suggestion we should be researching?15:20
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bswartzwe're still looking for a silver bullet for mount automation15:21
cknightNext on my list to look into is automounter + LDAP, but that isn't a self-contained solution.15:21
bswartzI'm sure mount automation will be one of the topics in vancouver, and cknight will be driving it15:22
cknightHearing nothing, does anyone here *care* about mount automation?15:22
* bswartz wonders if people don't understand what we're talking about15:22
u_glide:)15:23
toabctlwho added the nova API suggestion to the etherpad?15:23
marksturcknight, we *care*15:23
bswartzoh yes this is important15:23
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bswartzif you add something to the etherpad, include your name in parentheses (bswartz)15:24
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bswartzso we know who is proposing what, so we can get more information when something isn't clear15:24
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newbismetcd stuff with autofs?15:25
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toabctlwhat are the requirements we want to focus? is windows support important? baremetal or only virtual?15:25
bswartzokay, so by next week we'll have the proposal for the topic posted, included some background on what the problem is and our general idea for solving it15:25
u_glidebswartz: Could you please share investigation results?15:25
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bswartzu_glide: we'll share what we know, but I expect research will be ongoing until the design summit15:25
bswartzthe design summit will be where the decision will happen15:26
newbismserf with autofs15:26
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bswartznewbism: that's one proposal we15:26
bswartzwe've looked at15:26
bswartztoabctl: we're looking at all of that, it's hard to decide where to draw the line15:27
bswartztoabctl: thanks for the note on the etherpad15:27
newbismlooks like a good design to me.15:27
cknightnewbism: I'm not familiar with serf.  If you have an idea how that could work, please follow up on the DL.15:27
newbismim newb so you know15:27
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cknightbswartz: sounds like this topic is done for now…15:28
bswartzyeah15:28
bswartzokay15:28
bswartz#topic fix for glusterfs_native breaking multibackend setups15:28
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newbismor consul.io15:28
bswartzcsaba, u_glide: what's up15:29
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bswartzI don't see a LP bug with kilo-rc-potential tag15:29
u_glidewe have patch in master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174418/15:29
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bswartzthis is a partial fix patch15:30
vponomaryovbswartz: it is standalone15:30
u_glideyes, but this patch also fix another bug not opened on lp15:30
csaba1bswartz: the bug is about policy violation, scoped to liberty15:30
bswartzttx: hold off on tagging RC2 please15:31
bswartzttx: for manila15:31
csaba1but this patch fixes an actual behaviroal issue15:31
bswartzokay so do we need a different bug for Kilo?15:32
u_glideyes15:32
u_glidecsaba1: could you please create bug on lp?15:32
csaba1yes the issue is that multibackend will be broken with glusterfs_native included15:33
csaba1u_glide: sure15:33
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bswartzso if we backport 174418 only, that's enough to fix the issue in kilo?15:33
u_glideyes15:33
bswartzbtw, it's really a bad idea to attach multiple commits to a bug when you're considering proposing a backport on one of the commits15:33
bswartzit's going to make launchpad a nightmare15:34
bswartzI supposed it's too late to untangle the existing commits and LP bug because they've merged already15:34
csaba1u_glide: sorry, but no15:34
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csaba1u_glide: rraja just found an issue with your patch15:35
rrajabswartz: no. i'm facing an issue where I can create 2 shares with same glusterfs volume as the backend if I use the current glusterfs_native driver in the master branch i.e. after igor's fix.15:35
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bswartzrraja: I don't understand how that affects kilo...15:36
bswartzdidn't the DB patches go in after the branch?15:36
csaba1bswartz: it means we are still broken after the proposed inclusion of u_glide's patch15:37
csaba1bswartz: the problem is the bug u_glide found -- after the branch...15:37
csaba1ie. glusterfs_native breaks multibackend setups15:37
bswartza problem where?15:37
bswartzthat problem exists in kilo too?15:37
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csaba1in kilo, if you set up multibackend so that glusterfs_native is one of the backends, and you create a non-glusterfs-naiitve share, then m-shr will crash15:38
csaba1yes in kilo15:38
bswartzif there's a bug in kilo, we need to fix it in master first and propose a backport to kilo15:38
csaba1bswartz: u_glide's patch is supposed to fix it15:39
bswartzand you should be very careful to no mix the bug or the fix with other unrelated changes, because that makes backporting that much harder15:39
csaba1this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174418/15:39
bswartzcsaba1: I just heard that this change is insufficient to fix the bug15:39
bswartzrraja: do we need more than the above change to correct the issue?15:40
csaba1sorry dropped off ,now back)15:40
bswartzcsaba1: I just heard that this change is insufficient to fix the bug15:40
rrajabswartz: yes.15:40
csaba1bswartz: so yes, now it turned out thaqt with u_glide's fix, something else becomes broken15:41
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csaba1so *one more* fix is needed to get the whole thing right15:41
bswartzugh15:41
bswartzokay so is that one more patchset ready yet?15:41
bswartzor if not, when will it?15:41
csaba1rraja just diagnosed the issue, so not ATM15:42
bswartzokay15:42
csaba1rraja: can you fix it?15:42
rrajacsaba1: yes!15:42
csaba1approximately when?15:42
rrajain a day or two15:43
rrajahopefully by tmw.15:43
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bswartzthis is going to be a hard call15:43
bswartztwo days to fix + time to test and review15:43
bswartzthis puts us extremely close to the release15:44
bswartzour alternative is to cut RC2 now (it's ready aside from this issue) and to wait until after the release to handle this backport15:44
rrajabswartz: so if the fix gets in by today/early tmw. does it work?15:44
bswartzalso I'm not sure what the best way is to backport a bugfix that involves 2 commits15:45
bswartzthat's something I'll have to look into15:45
bswartzwe could do 2 backports or we could squash them into 1 backport15:45
vponomaryovrraja: please, describe problem in LP bug15:46
bswartzis it really the case that there are 2 different bugs that both need fixing?15:46
rrajavponomaryov: sure!15:46
bswartzor did the original change just someone fail to accomplish the fix?15:46
csaba1bswartz: if we amend u_glide's patch and backport like that, then that's just one commit to backport15:46
bswartzsomehow*15:46
csaba1bswartz: and on master we can merge the amendment as separarte commit15:47
bswartzcsaba1: I know we can squash them for the backport -- the question is whether that creates a mess in the history or not15:47
csaba1but I don't think we should replicate the issue with u_glide's commit in kilo15:47
bswartzif there are 2 different bugs here, then it's an easy decision to make 2 backports15:47
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bswartzmy request is: please clearly describe both issues in LP bugs, and tag them appropriately with kilo-rc-potential15:48
csaba1csaba1: OK so you just made th eargument why to replicate the issue with u_glide's commit in kilo -- history unambiguousness15:48
bswartzand also please push fix second fix as soon as it's ready15:48
bswartzI'll have to decide tomorrow whether to proceed with RC2 or to hold off15:49
csaba1bswartz: sure15:49
bswartzI'm willing to hold off on it today15:49
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csaba1bswartz: thanks15:49
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bswartzif we go into the weekend then I think it will be too late15:49
bswartzand getting it into kilo means getting it merged in master first, then doing the cherry picks and re-reviewing the fixes in kilo15:50
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bswartzokay anything else on this topic?15:50
bswartzI don't know if anyone is waiting for open discussion to raise another topic15:51
ganso_i am15:51
bswartz#topic open discussion15:51
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bswartzganso_: ?15:52
ganso_I am prototyping share migration, and I stumbled across some problems, not sure how to handle them15:52
bswartzanyone have anything else?15:52
bswartzganso_: cool15:52
ganso_I would like to ask your opinion15:52
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ganso_1 - are share IDs allowed to change or must remain the same? in Cinder they remain the same15:53
bswartzganso_: actually in cinder they do some ID gymnastics15:53
bswartzfrom the API client's point of view, I think it's clear that the share ID should not change15:54
bswartzand cinder does achieve that15:54
ganso_ok15:54
ganso_I can achieve that too15:54
bswartzfrom the DB point of view, cinder does something awkward which creates a bunch of problems for them15:54
ganso_but for each driver it is different15:54
ganso_for example, for generic driver, we have volume IDs which are linked to shares15:54
bswartzI suppose we could entertain a proposal for a migration API that changes the share's ID -- but that would require careful consideration15:55
ganso_Share ID is used as a name for the volume15:55
ganso_I suppose some driver vendors would also have the same link in the background15:55
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bswartzganso_: the DB changes that u_glide is working on are supposed to help solve that issue (among others)15:55
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u_glideganso_:  not anymore with  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/private-data-storage-api-for-drivers15:55
ganso_yes, I read about them, and I anxious for it, because I would be able to store some additional metadata for shares15:56
vponomaryovganso_: it will be cahnged with implementation of BP #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/private-data-storage-api-for-drivers15:56
bswartzforcing backends to embed manila's UUIDs in their volume/snapshot/share names ends up causing a bunch of problems, and driver private data is supposed to solve those15:56
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ganso_that would solve my problem15:56
ganso_great :)15:57
ganso_one other thing, is that I found out that access rules are also linked to Share ID15:57
vponomaryovganso_: how do you plan to handle migration w/o share servers?15:57
u_glideganso_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176877/1/manila/share/drivers/generic.py15:57
bswartzganso_: if you think that changing the share ID is a better idea, I'd like to see a proposal -- my instinct says it's the wrong thing but honestly I've never thought about it too much15:57
ganso_vponomaryov: Still have not thought about "driver_handles_share_servers = false"15:58
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cknightbswartz: +1  I'm skeptical about changing share IDs15:58
vponomaryovganso_:  + mixed one15:58
bswartzganso_: will you be in vancouver?15:58
ganso_yes15:58
bswartzthis seems like a perfect topic for the summit15:58
ganso_great :)15:58
ganso_I look forward to meeting you guys15:59
bswartzyou'll get a lot of feedback at the summit15:59
bswartzif you can prototype something before then, and have a WIP in gerrit, it will help the discussion even more15:59
cknightganso_: If you have a working prototype to demo, that would be great.15:59
ganso_yes, that will be my final step, submitting to gerrit15:59
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ganso_I already got something working15:59
bswartza demo is best of all15:59
bswartzsomething people can see so they don't have to imagine it16:00
bswartzokay we're at time16:00
ganso_but there are holes to fill in16:00
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bswartzthanks all16:00
ganso_thanks16:00
bswartzsee you next week16:00
bswartz#endmeeting16:00
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kozhukalov#startmeeting Fuel16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 23 16:00:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fuel'16:01
kozhukalov#chair kozhukalov16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: kozhukalov16:01
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kozhukalovhey guys16:01
docaedohello16:01
mattymohi!16:01
kozhukalovagenda as usual16:01
kozhukalov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:01
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kozhukalovwho else is here?16:01
mwhahahahi16:01
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samborkhi16:02
mihgenhi16:02
xarseso/16:02
kozhukalovgreat, 7 people16:02
kozhukalovlet's start16:02
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salmon_hi16:02
kozhukalov#topic Fuel CI migrated to new Jenkins instance ci.fuel-infra.org16:02
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kozhukalovwho added this topic?16:03
mihgenI think devops? bookwar is not here16:03
angdraugI think it was bookwar16:03
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mihgenthis is excellent actually, I'm very glad that this happened finally16:04
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bookwarhi all16:04
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kozhukalovbookwar: hi16:04
Tatyanka_Leontovhi :)16:04
mkwiekhello16:04
mihgenI'd add just redirect from old fuel-jenkins.16:04
angdraugbookwar: we're talking about ci.fuel-infra.org16:04
alex_bhhello everyone16:04
alex_didenko+1 for redirect from old CI16:04
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mihgenoh wait a sec, "This server is switched to read-only mode to provide logs for older builds. It will be switched off in July 2015"16:05
bookwarwe don't want to do redirect because we need to keep the history of builds and logs, so all links from gerrit reviews should work16:05
mihgendo we need logs folks?16:05
alex_didenkook, what about link to new jobs in old jobs description?16:05
alex_didenkolike "New job is here"16:05
bookwaropenstack infra says that CI should store logs for about three months, we can come up with smaller limit, but still we need direct links to job results to work for some time16:06
mihgenalex_didenko: why would we need it?16:06
bookwarin gerrit reviews you have direct link to job with build number16:06
alex_didenkolast week I gave links to our CI jobs in slides, so now they are not accurate16:06
mihgenok let's keep it as bookwar suggests16:06
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mihgenalex_didenko: people should be able to find it still…16:07
mihgenI just don't think we should over-engineer and spend 2h of bookwar going over old builds and providing links to new builds16:07
bookwarif we have old review, for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175388/ links to test results should be available16:07
angdraugcan we do a banner at the top of every jenkins page with a link to ci.fuel-infra.org?16:07
angdraugwhere can == much less than 2 hours of work :)16:08
bookwari can replace the topbar (the blue one) with a huge banner16:08
angdraugalex_didenko: would that solve your problem?16:08
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alex_didenkoyep16:08
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bookwari almost did that, if you not scared by my crazy design skills i can do it this evening :)16:08
bookwarok, let's do it then16:09
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docaedoI like crazy design skills16:09
kozhukalov#action bookwar adds banner at the top of every jenkins page with a link to ci.fuel-infra.org16:10
kozhukalovok, looks like we are done on this topic16:10
kozhukalovmoving on16:10
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kozhukalov#topic Failed community builds on ci.fuel-infra.org (mihgen)16:10
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mihgenI just noticied red builds over there.16:10
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mihgenmay be the reason is in configuration after moving to new ci16:11
mihgenbut I saw many fails before, on old instance too. The question is why those are failing more often, than on jenkins-product ci16:11
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bookwarthe reason is the recent merge16:11
bookwarwhich switched iso builds to use internal mirrors by default16:12
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mihgenwhoo what internal mirrors?16:12
mihgenwhy do we have those?16:12
kozhukalovbookwar: how are we going to solve this?16:12
bookwarcentos stuff16:12
mihgenwhy those are not public?16:12
bookwari've just got aglarendil's confirmation here that fix for that is already merged16:12
mihgenok sounds better16:13
kozhukalovbookwar: great16:13
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bookwarmihgen: these are centos upstream mirror which were used internally in our infra16:13
bookwarjust a snapshot of upstream16:13
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mihgenwe need to keep looking at those community builds - ideally those should be just of same color as those on jenkins-product16:14
bookwarso the fix has landed and we will check if it is ok16:14
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kozhukalovbtw, i am working on introducing priorities for centos mirrors https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176438/16:14
kozhukalovstill in progress16:14
bookwarmihgen: they were the same, internal staging builds were broken too :)16:14
mihgenohh16:15
mihgenok kozhukalov let's move on16:15
kozhukalov#topic Voting fuel library unit tests https://review.fuel-infra.org/#/c/615016:15
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bookwarthat's just a small notification, that we are going to switch the job to voting16:15
bookwarif there are no objections16:15
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mihgenrspec tests?16:16
alex_didenko3.. 216:16
bookwar#link https://review.fuel-infra.org/#/c/615016:16
alex_didenkoyep, per-module puppet-rspec tests16:16
mihgenlet's do it finally )16:16
alex_didenkowe're running them in non-voting mode for a very long time16:16
bookwarCR+1 are welcome16:17
kozhukalovbookwar: thanx for this info16:17
kozhukalovmoving on ?16:17
bookwaryep16:17
kozhukalov#topic New proposals (alex_bh)16:17
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alex_bhthanks. I will be very fast16:17
alex_bhIn Create-Net (http://www.create-net.org) we are working on Fuel from the 3.2.1 version and we developed some new modules. Now, we would like to contribute to Fuel with new  features.16:17
alex_bhI wrote 2 draft blueprints (we have also other ideas ;) ). The first one is on the installation of Calamari UI I order to provide a monitoring and management UI for Ceph.16:18
alex_bhThe second proposal is about the multiple regions deployment.16:18
alex_bhI would like to submit to you these two ideas and start a discussion, in order to address our development.16:18
mihgenalex_bh: that's interesting actually16:18
kozhukalovalex_bh: could you please so kind to prepare specs in rst format? https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-specs16:18
angdraugI like the calamari proposal16:19
angdraugon both accounts, +1 to what kozhukalov just said :)16:19
mihgenare you guys extensively using ceph deployment via Fuel?16:19
angdraug#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/How_to_contribute#Propose_enhancements16:19
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alex_bhwell, now we are deploying ceph in a few production env16:19
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alex_bhand yes, I have deployed by  Fuel16:20
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angdraugalex_bh: please keep xarses in the loop on your progress, he will help you get fuel developers attention for reviews16:21
kozhukalovalex_bh: great to hear that16:21
mihgenlet's take a look at proposals, and see if work can be done as plugins to Fuel16:21
xarsesalex_bh: sounds great. For both we would likely want to weigh the implementation directly in fuel, vs creating a fuel plugi-n. Both sound good in the core and I'd almost think that multi-region would have to have some parts in the core16:21
alex_bhabout Calamari the idea is to write a plugin16:22
kozhukalovalex_bh: yes, and depending on your time zone please ping me or xarses if you have questions about spec preparations or any other questions (for me email is preferable)16:22
alex_bhok...thanks a lot for your cooperation16:22
xarsesalex_bh: please feel free to poke me if you need anything16:22
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alex_bh will update the doc according to your suggestions16:23
alex_bhthanks a lot16:23
mihgengood. should we move on?16:23
kozhukalovalex_bh: great, thank you, moving on16:23
alex_bhthanks16:23
kozhukalov#topic recent provisioning improvements16:23
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kozhukalovthere are some sub-topics here16:24
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kozhukalovthey are written down in agenda16:24
mihgenyeah thanks for summarizing those16:24
mihgenquestion is how far we from being not that busy with bugs here )16:24
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kozhukalovmihgen: pretty close )16:25
mihgenso you could start looking at volume-manager refactoring, at least from the design perspective16:25
mihgendid you hear any issues from scale lab?16:25
mihgenwere folks able to do 200 nodes after rmoe's fix?16:25
kozhukalovmihgen: actually i did look in december 2014 and i have some ideas about that16:26
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kozhukalovno, i didn't, last time when i heard about issues was that but which was fixed by rmoe16:27
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mihgenkozhukalov: we'd need to do cross validation of use cases with some of other folks who are close to users16:27
kozhukalovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/174662/ this one16:27
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kozhukalovmihgen: yes, i see16:27
kozhukalovwill try to summarize feedback16:27
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kozhukalovfrom guys in the field16:28
mihgenok cool, thanks16:28
kozhukalovanother point here is that we can workaround some volume manager bugs in 6.116:28
kozhukalovin progress here16:29
kozhukalovany other questions?16:29
kozhukalovin not, let's move on16:29
kozhukalov#topic Fuel design sessions during the Vancouver summit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-7.0-roadmap (zigo)16:30
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kozhukalov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-7.0-roadmap16:30
kozhukalovzigo: around?16:31
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kozhukalovlooks like he is not here16:31
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angdraugzigo has created the linked etherpad to kick off the discussion of what we can cover in an open design session (or two) at the Vancouver summit16:32
mihgenwe won16:32
angdraughis priority is supporting Fuel on Debian, as you can see from the ideas he's thrown in16:32
xarsesya, so we want to have public sessions in Vancouver16:32
mihgenwe won't have many ppl going there, but still16:32
angdraugbut it doesn't mean that we can't add more things to the list16:33
mihgenaglarendil, mattymo, bookwar should be there16:33
xarsesand we'd like to see some of you propose topics to discuss, and we will also pass it around on the ML16:33
angdraugfor example bookwar will be there, so worth including ci related topics16:33
mihgenfrom the CI stuff, I'd love to see more reusage of what upstream infra does, and contributing our improvements back there16:34
bookwari agree with mihgen, we can and will discuss things but for full-scale design session there are not enough people there16:34
angdraugthere only need to be enough fuel people there to host it, and enough interesting topics for community people to show up with their ideas16:35
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angdraugyou won't walk out of there with semi-ready blueprint specs16:35
bookwarso it would be more like brainstorming session16:35
angdraugyes, brainstorming and feedback gathering16:35
mattymobasically you can brainstorm and you can propose ideas and see if it is generally acceptable16:36
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mattymosame as what angdraug said, basically:)16:36
mihgenok cool, moving on?)16:36
mihgenI'm inpatient today )16:36
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angdraugyup16:36
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kozhukalovyep, moving on16:37
bookwarmattymo:  we don't have the 'generally' part, minoringly acceptable :)16:37
kozhukalov#topic Help to fuel-library team in squashing high/criticals, even assigned bugs (mihgen)16:37
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mihgenso you folks might be aware, majority of most complicated / time consuming bugs we have in fuel-library16:37
mihgenbasically everything related to puppet modules and linux configuration16:38
kozhukalovlooks like python team gonna be in time with bugs by HCF, but library needs help16:38
mihgenyes. So, if you guys / your team members who are not at the meeting now can go over those bugs and help in any form, that would be awesome16:39
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kozhukalovmihgen: should we contact aglarendil and ask where and how we can help?16:39
mihgenof course if you are not over subscribed with your own area16:39
mattymoI can comment on that. I'm just getting lots of -1 with "fix this", followed with another -1 "fix that".. slowing down bug squashing velocity16:39
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mattymoif you have multiple concerns with a patch, please just put it all out there, rather than clogging CI workflow with drip-coffee-action negative feedback16:39
angdraug+116:39
mihgenyep, aglarendil should be able to help identify those bugs16:39
kozhukalovmattymo: +116:40
angdraugI've also seen this pattern: please go through whole commit when reviewing, don't stop after you've found one problem16:40
mattymoI'm not going to name names, but I had a wonderful case where 1 person managed to -1 my patch 9 times16:40
kozhukalovplease be as constructive as possible while reviewing16:40
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mihgenmattymo: +1. Folks just get into communication with those who are keep doing this, and try to fix it16:40
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xarsesalso, if it's a minor/cosmetic issue, lets consider creating a bug to follow it up and allow it to stand16:41
mihgenif it doesn't fly - let me know and I'll do something )16:41
mihgenxarses: +116:41
mattymoxarses, +1 especially for gartantuan multi-project commits that take 2-3 hrs to test each iteration16:41
mihgencritical things should be fixed fast. remaining polishing can be considered as separate bugs16:41
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kozhukalovmihgen: sounds frightening16:42
angdraugno, just common sense16:42
mihgenno worries, you won't feel pain =)16:43
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mihgenclosing meeting?16:43
kozhukalovmihgen: yes, it is gonna be rather pleasant (couldn't resist to say this)16:43
alex_didenko1 more thing16:43
mihgenI'm not that way )16:44
alex_didenkojust wanted to mention that we've started running noop tests (puppet-rspec) for puppet tasks in non-voting mode https://ci.fuel-infra.org/job/fuellib_noop_tests/16:44
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mihgenalex_didenko: great! how fast those pass?16:44
alex_didenkoTook 3 min 10 sec16:44
kozhukalovalex_didenko: thanx for this info16:45
bookwar#link https://ci.fuel-infra.org/job/fuellib_noop_tests/buildTimeTrend16:45
mihgenthat's excellent. Will we be running remaining long -running tests only after this "smoke" passes?16:45
mihgennoop -> rspec -> heavy system16:45
mihgenI think we run in parallel now, don't we?16:46
alex_didenkoeventually yes16:46
alex_didenkoI hope :)16:46
kozhukalovmihgen: +1 sounds like "must do"16:46
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alex_didenkowe had a meeting with devops on it some time ago16:46
mihgenyeah let's try to make it sooner, that's how we can free up some hardware and people's time :)16:46
alex_didenkoso it should be doable16:46
bookwarit is not simple from jenkins configuration side, but it is doable16:47
bookwarso we are not getting it today or next week, but eventually, yes :)16:47
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kozhukalovbookwar: cool16:47
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kozhukalovfolks, any other questions?16:48
kozhukalovsuggestions?16:48
kozhukalovannouncements?16:48
mihgenbookwar: I thought it's just child job.. ok I hope you'll find easy and best solution16:48
kozhukalovlooks like we are done16:48
kozhukalovgreat meeting, thanks everyone for attending16:48
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kozhukalovclosing16:49
mihgenyep, thanks, let's move on16:49
mihgen=)16:49
kozhukalov#endmeeting16:49
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tmcpeakyo!17:00
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tmcpeakhey michaelxin17:01
elmikosup17:01
dg_hello17:01
singlethinkhi17:01
fletcherhola17:01
tristanChowdee!17:01
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hyakuhei#startmeeting Security17:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 23 17:02:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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hyakuheio/17:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'17:02
tmcpeako/17:02
hyakuheiAgenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackSecurity17:02
hyakuheianything to add to that?17:03
tmcpeakBandit17:03
hyakuheiCool17:03
hyakuheiSo as I’ve found time I’ve been going through the wiki and updating links etc17:04
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hyakuheiI’m hoping for a concerted rebranding effort at the summit17:04
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tkelseyo/17:05
tmcpeakcool, what do you need to make that happen?17:05
hyakuheiPeople in the same place at the same time more than anything I thin17:05
hyakuheijust a sprint of sorts17:05
dg_Figure out what needs rebranding, get everyone together in the security space, hack?17:05
hyakuheiYeah17:06
hyakuheiWe’ve got a few 1 hour boardrooms17:06
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hyakuheihey tkelsey17:06
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hyakuheiAny questions or concerns re: our transition?17:06
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tkelseyhey hyakuhei, yeah rebranding sounds like something that could be done in a sprint :)17:07
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hyakuheiCool17:07
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hyakuheiok, lets move swiftly along then :)17:07
elmikoi didn't see it on the planning, but ossg is getting a sprint on friday?17:08
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hyakuheiI’m not putting anything in stone for Friday Afternoon17:08
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hyakuheiThe summit is pretty much a ghost town on the final day17:08
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elmikoack, thanks17:09
hyakuheiThough I’m happy to use that time if people are around I don’t want to tell the organisers we want that space and then not fill it17:10
hyakuheiI’m happy we got anything, being so late to the party :)17:10
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tkelseyheh yeah17:10
hyakuheiOk, next up17:11
hyakuhei#topic security.openstack.org17:11
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hyakuheiIt would be nice to have some more content there before the summit17:11
hyakuheiSuggestions?17:11
hyakuheiI’d like to see developer guidance, sec guide links and OSSN on there perhaps?17:12
tmcpeak++ for developer guidance :D17:12
tkelseythe dev guide stuff we did could go up there17:12
elmikoi think those all sound good17:12
elmikomaybe we could just go with a landing page style content to start with, provide a nice central place for links to the other content?17:13
tkelseymaybe list security specific projects (Barbican, Anchor etc) and a general sort of resources area17:13
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tkelseyjust throwing out ideas17:13
hyakuheiAll good ideas17:13
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hyakuheiCool, anything else?17:14
hyakuheioh hai gmurphy !17:14
tkelseymaybe even have a "completeness" section, covering the state of the guide for the current release17:14
hyakuheiWe were just talking about uses for security.openstack.org17:14
gmurphyo/17:14
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gmurphyright.17:14
hyakuheiAs it might be nice to have more there before the summit17:14
hyakuheiwhich isn’t so far away17:14
hyakuheibut I don’t understand how/where to add content17:15
gmurphyyeah. i can probably help out with this next week. port the security guidelines etc17:15
hyakuheiThere’s a repo somewhere I think.17:15
hyakuheiThat would be great :)17:15
gmurphyso everything lives git.openstack.org/openstack/ossa17:15
tkelseygmurphy: awesome :)17:15
gmurphycan submit reviews etc like anyt other project17:15
elmikonice17:16
bknudsonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ossa,n,z17:16
hyakuheiThanks bknudson17:16
bknudsonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/ossa,n,z -- there wasn't anything open17:16
dg_if we can figure out how to post content, I dont mind trying to get the developer guidance on there before the summit17:16
bknudsonthe reviews of ossas happen in the bug reports17:17
hyakuheiI think tmcpeak should take a look at porting the developer guidelines over, as he has the bit between his teeth over that17:17
hyakuheiYeah, OSSA are special cases17:17
tmcpeakok.. I'll take a stab17:17
gmurphyi can help out with this. on a call atm ping me later ok?17:17
tmcpeakcool, sounds good17:18
hyakuheiwill do, thanks gmurphy17:18
dg_hyakuhei ok I'll teflon that one off to travis17:18
tmcpeaklol17:18
hyakuheithanks tmcpeak, dg_ can help :P17:18
tmcpeaksweet!17:18
dg_tmcpeak I'll take the figurehead role, wave and stuff ;)17:18
tmcpeakI expected nothing less :)17:19
hyakuhei#action tmcpeak and dg_ to move developer guidance to the OSSA repo17:19
hyakuheiThere - it’s official now17:19
tkelseylol17:19
bknudsonwho's got +2 on the OSSA repo?17:19
hyakuheiVMT I’m guessing17:19
bknudsondo they want to review all these?17:19
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hyakuheiPossibly not, fungi, gmurphy, ttx , tristanC ^ thoughts?17:20
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hyakuheiWe want to move some more content, links into security.openstack.org but this might generate a bit more review traffic on the OSSA repo for a while...17:21
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elmikoside question, could we get gerrit output from the ossa repo to broadcast in openstack-security if it isn't alread?17:21
tristanCgood question... shouldn't this be links to already hosted document ?17:21
hyakuheiSome of the documents have been waiting for a good home17:21
bknudsonI don't have a problem with them being in the same repo... maybe +2 for a larger group17:21
hyakuheiAlso, OSSN really should have some more prominence.17:21
tristanCbecause well, the project is actually called ossa17:22
hyakuheiYeah it is17:22
hyakuheiThough security.openstack.org should be more inclusive than just OSSA I think ?17:22
bknudsonyes!17:22
bknudsonI hope we can have more than just our dirty laundry there.17:22
tmcpeak:)17:23
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hyakuheiI very much want it to be a good place for us to demonstrate all the good security stuff in OpenStack, including our robust OSSA process17:23
elmiko+117:24
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dave-mccowano/17:24
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hyakuheiok cool, no need to labor that, I’ll chat with the VMT folks about if security.openstack.org should stay under ossa in git (which I don’t personally have anything against) and if it does stay there, the impact of adding some +2’s for the additional content.17:25
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bknudsonmaybe just rename it someday17:26
hyakuheiDoesn’t look like Mr Security Guide will be joining us17:26
hyakuheisicarie is absent!17:26
hyakuheitmcpeak: want to talk about bandit?17:26
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elmikoi think the doc update is similar to last meeting, we are still reviewing the chapters and sicarie has a list of things he'd like done before we go to publish.17:27
tmcpeakhyakuhei: yep17:27
tmcpeakfletcher: you around?17:27
hyakuhei#topic Bandit17:27
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fletcheri am17:27
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tmcpeakfletcher: want to overview your new plugin really quick?17:27
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fletchersure thing17:27
bknudsonbandit's been running quietly on keystone for a while now.17:27
hyakuheiwoot!17:27
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fletcheri basically hijacked all of Christian Heimes' work from defusedxml17:28
tkelseyI added the bandit gate to Anchor last week btw17:28
dave-mccowanbandit is also running quietly on the gate for barbican17:28
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elmikosahara is working towards putting a bandit gate job in as well17:28
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michaelxin+117:28
hyakuheiWonderful!17:28
tkelseyawesome :D its spreading17:28
fletcherSo it flags all dangerous XML functions and recommends defusedxml library17:28
elmikoalthough, we might have some feedback about the setup process ;)17:28
dg_thats awesome work!17:28
tkelseyfletcher: :) awesome17:28
bknudsonfletcher: have an example of a dangerous XML function?17:29
tmcpeakyeah, so this is a really cool new test fletcher has added17:29
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tkelseyelmiko: feedback is good :D17:29
hyakuheielmiko: feedback is good!17:29
hyakuheiheh17:29
bknudsonthere have been vulnerabilities for expansion and derefrencing before.17:29
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fletchersure!17:29
elmikohehe, i figured you guys would be up for it17:29
tmcpeakand he also added a supporting doc along with it, so IMO this is an excellent example for somebody to follow when adding a new plugin17:29
fletcherxml.etree.ElementTree.parse()17:29
tmcpeak#link https://review.openstack.org/17640417:29
tmcpeak^ fletcher's change17:29
bknudsonI can't parse an XML document?17:30
tmcpeakbknudson: you can, you just might have a bad time :D17:30
fletcheran untrusted XML document, no17:30
bknudsonthat seems like a pretty basic thing to do.17:30
fletcherthings like the billion laughs attack17:30
fletcherand expontential entity expantion17:30
fungisorry, had stepped away17:30
bknudsonwhat's the fix?17:31
fletcher(gawd I suck at typing/spelling)17:31
bknudson(other than don't use XML)17:31
tmcpeakthere is a library which mitigates known attacks17:31
fletcherused defusedxml.ElementTree.parse()17:31
michaelxinexternal entity injection17:31
bknudsonahh17:31
fungiskimming briefly, i think we could move the non-ossa tooling and content out of the ossa repo and then just use the ossa repo for actual ossa yaml files17:31
bknudsonis it in global-requirements?17:31
tmcpeakbknudson: good q17:31
fletcherthere is external entity injection and exponential entity injection17:32
fletcherbut yah, the defusedxml page has nice summaries17:32
tmcpeakI did notice that Thierry Carrez is in the "thanked" section17:32
fletcheri'm not sure about global-requirements17:32
tmcpeakso this must be a known issue17:32
tmcpeakit is not on global requirements17:32
tmcpeakprobably should look at getting it added17:33
bknudsony, if any code does xml parsing17:33
tmcpeakwell xml parsing itself is ok, as long as it isn't from an untrusted srouce17:33
bknudsonwe've been trying to get rid of xml support17:33
tmcpeakstill, it's hard to know17:33
fletchersorry had to reconnect so I dont' have scrollback. What's hard to know?17:34
bknudsonthat's pretty much anywhere but a local config file... and some people don't even trust their config files.17:34
tmcpeakyeah… good point17:34
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tmcpeakif people want to explicitly mark XML usage as trusted that's what #nosec is for17:34
chair6this is where the pinned bandit version is useful, as well as config / profiles functionality17:34
tmcpeakand this ^17:35
chair6we can push the test into master, run it across openstack repos, figure out what the overall landscape looks like..17:35
hyakuhei+117:35
fletcherthere's always the argument of "why leave potentially vulnerable code around when the fix is known and simple" :)17:35
chair6.. then retain it / keep it / tweak it, and individual projects can still include or exclude the test in their gates based on their config17:35
tkelseychair6: +117:35
tmcpeakfletcher: yeah agree, in OpenStack it might not be as simple because of global requirements and such, but this can at least be a nudge in the right direction17:35
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fletcherah ok, that makes sense17:36
chair6also on bandit, there is a relatively significant change at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175612/ .. close to landing it, but feedback still requested17:36
tmcpeakalso fletcher: I think I'm going to add a reference to this commit as a best practice when committing plugins17:36
tkelsey:)17:36
chair6completes work that was discussed at the OSSG mid-cycle, moving to having tests report both a severity and a confidence level17:36
chair6among a few other things..17:36
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fletcherawwwww, snap. i'll take it :)17:36
tmcpeakyeah chair6 disappeared for a day and dropped a monster improvement :)17:37
fletcheryah, i heart that diff17:37
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bknudsonit might be interesting to have a config option to error if confidence level > whatever17:37
tmcpeakin other Bandit news, Barbican has switched from experimental Bandit gate to non-voting17:37
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tkelsey:) nice17:38
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tmcpeakbknudson: yeah, definitely planned17:38
chair6yeah, i haven't added it yet but we'll do filtering on confidence level17:38
tmcpeakbknudson: you have any feel to when/if you guys (Keystone) will want to move to a voting gate?17:39
bknudsonI was hoping that we'd at least see a release of bandit17:39
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tmcpeakrelease?17:39
bknudsonso that we knew you guys weren't going to break us with each release.17:39
elmikohehe17:39
tmcpeakwe're done releasing for now :)17:39
tmcpeakshouldn't matter anyway, you guys are pinned17:40
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bknudsonI also want to see it in global-requirements.17:40
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tmcpeakfletcher: cool, thanks!17:40
dave-mccowantmcpeak, when will projects start receiving automatic pushes for bandit-test-requirements.txt ?17:40
bknudsonand our own files updated.17:40
gmurphyback17:40
dstaneki think we should do it as soon as we can; since it hasn't been an issue17:40
bknudsonI wouldn't be too worried about whether it's gating or not.17:40
tmcpeakdave-mccowan: as soon as it gets in global-requirements…17:40
tmcpeakbknudson: well if it isn't gating, it probably isn't actually accomplishing much17:41
tmcpeakhow often do people actually check all that stuff on the right side? ;)17:41
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bknudsonI hope that core reviewers are always checking it.17:41
bknudsonI sure do.17:41
tkelseybknudson: +117:41
chair6yeah, i'd argue that non-voting is still quite useful17:41
tmcpeakok cool, apparently I'm the only one that developed a blind spot for gate jobs that don't reject my change :D17:42
bknudsonkeystone isn't like other projects where they have failing CI all the time.17:42
bknudsonI'd be fine with making it voting. I can bring it up at the keystone meeting.17:42
bknudsonalthough I'd still like to see it in global-requirements first.17:43
tmcpeakbknudson: yeah, makes sense :) — also I don't want to push you guys to have it voting if you aren't comfortable yet17:43
stevemarbknudson, how is it installed now?17:43
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bknudsonstevemar: it's in tox.ini deps for the bandit env17:43
bknudsontmcpeak: Do a point release that doesn't break us and I'll be more comfortable.17:44
tmcpeakbknudson: ok cool17:44
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tkelseybknudson: cautious is good :)17:45
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bknudsonreleasing often makes it easier on users.17:45
tmcpeakwe'll do a point release with fletcher's new plugin and chair6's change17:45
tmcpeakthat will be 0.10.2, and keystone should still use 0.10.1 because it's pinned that way17:45
tmcpeakwhen all that works we can discuss again :)17:45
bknudsonthen we can upgrade to 0.10.2 and make sure that process works.17:45
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tkelseybknudson: tmcpeak +1 good plan17:46
bknudsonwhich requires global-requirements.17:46
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tmcpeakbknudson: ok I'm a little confused.. why do you want to upgrade to 0.10.2?17:46
tmcpeakI was envisioning just using 0.10.1 since it's stable17:47
bknudsonto pick up the new features.17:47
tmcpeakisn't the point of pinning so you don't necessarily get them? :D17:47
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bknudsonthe point of pinning is that we get to choose when.17:47
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tmcpeakok cool, I think I get it17:48
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bknudsonif there's new features it should be 0.11.017:48
tmcpeakgood point...17:48
tmcpeakespecially for a change as big as Jamie's17:48
tmcpeakerr chair6's17:48
tkelseyso I think bknudson is right with that approach, Bandit needs to do a second release to test the process, then if its looking good people can pull 0.10.2 or whatever17:48
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tmcpeakcool, works for me17:49
tkelseythat way Bandit can test out the process and consumers can get confidence that we know what we are doing :)17:49
tmcpeakI wouldn't go that far :P17:49
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hyakuheiCan we wrap Bandit discussion or take it over to #openstack-security after this meeting (10 minutes left) ?17:49
tmcpeakyep, think we're good17:49
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hyakuheiSweet17:50
hyakuhei#topic Elections17:50
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hyakuheiSo I discussed the process of elections etc with ttx17:50
hyakuheiBascially by the letter of the law we don’t have to do an election until the fall elections17:50
hyakuheiWhich would mean putting up with me for another 6 months.17:51
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elmikolol17:51
hyakuhei_but_ I don’t want to get in the way of people who want to get rid of me :P17:51
tmcpeakif we really want to get rid of you we'll do it the old fashioned way17:51
hyakuheilol17:51
dg_we have people for that17:52
tmcpeakerr.. I mean — sounds good :D17:52
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elmikohaha!17:52
tkelsey:P17:52
hyakuheiI’m happy to stay as PTL for the next 6 months but if anyone has a concern around this please either approach me or nkinder and we’ll arrange some post-summit elections17:53
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hyakuheiIs that fair?17:53
dg_so I think you've done ok so far and you should possibly stick around until the dust settles from the change to Security17:53
hyakuheiYou’re too kind.17:53
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bknudson#vote hyakuhei17:53
dg_I actually had to re-write that 3 times to be less sarcastic :P17:53
hyakuheihaha17:53
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tkelseyhyakuhei: you get my vote, nothing has exploded or imploded yet, so good job!17:53
hyakuheigee thanks17:54
hyakuheiheh17:54
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shelleea007key word, "yet"17:54
elmikoagreed, #vote hyakuhei17:54
tkelseyyup :P17:54
tkelsey:D17:54
shelleea007lol17:54
elmikolol17:54
bknudson#vote for hillary17:54
shelleea007...17:54
hyakuheiI’m feeling the love right now guys :)17:54
hyakuheiLets move it along then17:55
hyakuhei#topic any other business17:55
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hyakuheiAnything else to quickly discuss?17:55
bknudsonoh, one thing I have to do for keystone is get the rest of our repos running bandit17:55
elmikoi wrote an ossn, still waiting for a core reviwer nudge.nudge...17:55
bknudsonI also wanted to wait on the g-r change for that.17:55
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tmcpeakbknudson: sounds good17:55
tmcpeakelmiko: link?17:55
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175065/17:56
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elmikoit's for the issue hyakuhei suggested as low hanging fruit last time17:56
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hyakuheiExcellent, thank you elmiko ! I’ll review it after this meeting, thank you and congrats on what I think is your first OSSN :)17:57
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tmcpeakcool, will take a look17:57
elmikothanks =)17:57
dg_hyakuhei do we have enough core reviewers now we've lost bdpayne?17:57
tkelseydg_: thats a good point17:58
hyakuheigood point17:58
hyakuheiYes, because he’s not done many reviews for a long time17:58
hyakuheiHowever, I’m happy to add some more too17:58
hyakuheijust not an emergency.17:58
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hyakuheiAny last minute stuff to discuss?17:59
tkelseynothing from me17:59
shelleea007no17:59
hyakuheiThanks all!17:59
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hyakuhei#endmeeting17:59
tmcpeaklater!17:59
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr 23 17:59:45 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-23-17.02.html17:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-23-17.02.txt17:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-04-23-17.02.log.html17:59
gmurphycheers17:59
elmikothanks hyakuhei17:59
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