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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 19 15:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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cknightHi15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
bswartzhello all15:00
kaisersHiho15:00
vponomaryovhello15:00
gary-smith__hi15:00
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ganso_hi15:01
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:01
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rrajahi15:01
bswartz#topic K-3 / feature freeze15:01
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bswartzThe K-3 milestone was tagged this morning!15:02
bswartz#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/manila/tag/?id=2015.1.0b315:02
marksturship it!15:02
kaisersyay15:02
bswartzWe got all the targeted BPs completed, and a few bugs too15:02
bswartzsome bugs got kicked out to RC115:02
marcusvrnHi15:03
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bswartzat this point nobody can merge new features without a feature freeze exception15:03
bswartzthe procedure for FFEs is to request them on the mail list15:03
bswartzbut I don't anticipate the need to grant any15:03
bswartzso this means that from now until liberty opens up, we're in bugfix mode15:04
bswartzalso, we should be TESTING!15:04
bswartzI want to drive to get all the known bugs fixed ASAP, and then cut a release candidate15:05
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bswartzeveryone is expected to download and test the hell out of the release candidate15:05
bswartzthat will probably happen in about 2 weeks15:05
bswartzmaybe 3 if we can't get the bugs down close to zero15:05
lpabono/ - here15:05
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bswartzit would be nice if our automated test coverage was 100%, but it's not, which is why testing is very important, especially have we have an RC15:06
bswartzespecially *after15:06
bswartzany questions about feature freeze?15:07
marksturare you interested in adding more _unit_ test coverage now? I was assuming that should wait for L to merge.15:07
bswartzI'm really happy with how milestone 3 went by the way15:07
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bswartzeveryone got their stuff in fairly early and we got the reivews we needed and the gate didn't cause too many problems15:07
bswartzmarkstur: adding tests is always welcome15:08
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bswartzwith the possible exception of right around the release when we're scared to break anything15:08
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bswartzso you might see features going into the client, or to the horizon fork after the feature freeze, but that should slow down soon15:09
bswartzthey're not technically frozen but we want to keep them stable15:10
bswartz#topic Core team nominations15:10
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bswartzso we have a very small core team -- just 3 people currently15:10
bswartzit's no secret that I've been wanting to grow it15:10
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bswartzfor example the last 2 days xyang is out of office, and when vponomaryov pushes a change, he can't +2 is own change15:11
bswartzwhich puts us in a bind15:11
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bswartzI have nominated u_glide to join the core team already (see the ML post)15:11
bswartzand I'm looking for more people who are dedicated to the project to nominate too15:12
lpaboncool15:12
bswartzthe primary requirement is a history of quality code reviews, and participation in the community (IRC channel, ML, and meetups)15:12
bswartzcontributions to manila core also help a lot, but aren't required15:13
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bswartzso I'll talk to some of you and see if you're interested15:13
vponomaryovbswartz: contributions make influence to reviews, so it is preffered15:13
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bswartzvponomaryov: I think that's what I said15:14
lpabonvponomaryov: yeah, its easier to review once you understand and contribute code15:14
lpabonjust my $0.0215:15
bswartzthe point is that the "core team" is primarily defined by our reviewing responsibility15:15
lpabonyep15:15
bswartzsomeone can be a big contributor but not spend time on reviews and not be a core reviewer15:15
bswartzand that's fine15:16
bswartzI'm hoping to get the core team to around 6 people by start of liberty15:16
bswartzI think it will help with review load15:16
bswartzbut only if we find good candidates15:16
bswartz#topic open discussion15:17
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bswartzthat's all I have for today15:17
bswartzwe can breathe a sigh of relief that we reached the milestone15:17
bswartzbut only a short one because it's time to get on to testing bugfixing15:18
markstursigh15:18
bswartzlol15:18
lpabonI have a topic15:18
bswartzalso K-4 is a good time to work on documentation15:18
bswartzlpabon: go ahead15:18
lpabon^ yeah that.. specially for new developers (like me) is really needed15:18
kaiserssi..15:18
kaisers(short one)15:19
lpabonSo, I'm starting with the development environment, and hopefully will be adding documentation next week15:19
bswartzoh your topic was documentation15:19
lpabonI created https://github.com/lpabon/devstack-manila - which creates a vagrant development image15:19
bswartzyes, docs are important15:19
bswartzso is bug finding/fixing15:20
lpabonyeah, my topic is that we need more development documentation, specially how to start up easily15:20
lpabonso we can review and verify fixes15:20
bswartzI'm sure everyone wants to start prototyping features for liberty, but let's make sure kilo is successful first15:20
lpabonAnyways that's all i had15:20
bswartzkaisers: did you have something?15:21
marksturkaisers had a short sigh15:21
bswartzlol15:22
bswartzokay15:22
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bswartzjust a note about me15:22
bswartzI will be at disney world next week15:22
kaisersyep :)15:22
lpabonsweet (i was just there)15:22
bswartzI should be able to hold this meeting next week from the orlando airport15:22
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bswartzbut I'll be unavailable most of the week15:22
bswartzmaybe I can do reviews in the evening for bugfixes15:22
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marksturk3 is tagged.   I'm going to Disney World!   (Ben is doing the MVP thing)15:23
bswartz^ yes15:23
lpabonlol15:23
bswartzyou can catch me online up through Sunday though15:23
kaisersreviews from the roller coaster, yay all +/-215:23
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bswartzanyways that's all from me15:24
bswartzthanks everyone, and get on to testing/fixing!15:24
kaisersthanks, have fun & bye15:24
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bswartz#endmeeting15:24
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Mar 19 15:24:45 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:24
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kozhukalov#startmeeting Fuel16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 19 16:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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kozhukalov#chair kozhukalov16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: kozhukalov16:00
kozhukalovHey guys16:00
agordeevhi16:00
mihgenhi16:00
docaedohey16:00
vkramskikhhi16:00
kozhukalovis anybody here?16:00
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prmtlhey16:00
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kozhukalovthanks to mihgen we have a lot of stuff to discuss today16:01
kozhukalovagenda as usual16:01
kozhukalov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:01
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alex_didenkohi16:01
izinovikhi16:01
angdraugo/16:02
mihgenwell let's discuss most critical things16:02
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kozhukalovlet's start16:02
brain461hello16:02
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kozhukalov#topic Separating MOS from upstream ubuntu (vparakhin)16:02
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salmon_hi16:02
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mihgenbrain461: ^^16:03
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kozhukalovguys, please review this huge patch16:03
brain461There's no major updates in the code for this feature itself. But now we have all required jenkins jobs in place.16:03
kozhukalov#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161222/16:03
brain461yesterday we were blocked by issue with system tests (LP #1431469), but now we're back on track.16:03
mihgenwhat's still left to be done?16:04
brain461this patch is huge but not complex, so I'd encourage you to participate in the review16:04
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brain461patch for qa part is not merged, afair16:04
mihgendo I get it right that once it's landed into master, we can treat feature being completed?16:04
brain461debian part16:05
kozhukalovSergey Golovatiuk still has not managed to take a loot at it16:05
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brain461he read the patch, will comment later (tomorrow)16:05
mihgenbrain461: is qa part a blocker?16:05
brain461as long as we want to have working bvt's - yes16:06
mihgenanyone from qa here who works on that?16:06
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brain461ddmitriev ^^16:06
mihgenbrain461: when do we expect to see it from them?16:06
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brain461#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163824/16:08
mihgenwe want to be agile here. We can't hold this thing forever in the review queue. So if holser agrees with overall approach in patch, let's go ahead with merging, but file bug to address particular things16:08
mihgenwe can't uncover what other issues are waiting for us before we merge this stuff16:08
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mihgenbrain461: it's not QA patch )16:09
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brain461#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161058/16:09
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brain461both of them are related16:09
kozhukalovthis patch needs to be merged together with brain's one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161208/16:10
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mihgenso basically we are done with code, just waiting for review/merge?16:10
mihgenor there is anything else to be done (jenkins config, etc.) ?16:11
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kozhukalovmihgen: there are couple patches about dhcp gateway16:12
kozhukalovthey are also waiting to be merged16:12
brain461we already had bvts passed with our patches, just need to put all of them together and test again16:12
kozhukalovwe need them to make gateway working on slave nodes16:12
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kozhukalovto make sure they are able to consume external repos16:12
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kozhukalovoutside of a lab16:13
mihgendo we have repos ready? fuel devops team created those?16:13
brain461upstream repos are ready16:13
brain461in all three locations16:13
kozhukalovikalnitsky: can you give ETA for merging dhcp related stuff?16:14
brain461sorry, all five :)16:14
ikalnitskyhi guys16:14
ikalnitskykozhukalov, yep.16:14
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ikalnitskywe have merge dhcp patch in library16:14
ikalnitsky*merged16:14
ikalnitskyand in fuelmenu16:14
kozhukalovwow, great16:14
ikalnitskythere's one patch on review for nailgun16:14
ikalnitsky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163824/16:14
mihgenbrain461: ok. thanks for status. let's push this stuff forward please. Guys, we need to help to land this stuff.16:14
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mihgenikalnitsky: yep, let's change 127.0.0.1 -> 10.0.0.1 there pls ;)16:15
kozhukalovok, if there are no other q here, let's move on16:15
ikalnitskymihgen, no problem.16:15
brain461guys, the scale of changes is enormous. let me encourage all of you to participate in reviews once again16:15
kozhukalovmihgen: you mean 10.20.0.1? right?16:15
mihgenkozhukalov: yep16:15
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kozhukalovmoving on16:16
kozhukalov#topic Consume external ubuntu mirrors (ikalnitsky, devops team)16:16
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ikalnitskyok, as i already said - we have merged dhcp patch in library today.16:17
ikalnitskyand we have dhcp related patch in nailgun in review16:17
ikalnitskyexcept these patches16:17
ikalnitskywe have two patches tp nailgun: one is about downloading initrd16:17
ikalnitsky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161208/16:17
ikalnitskyit has two +216:18
ikalnitskywe'll merge it within separate repo patch16:18
ikalnitskyand another patch is about upstream defaults in openstack.yaml16:18
ikalnitsky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163840/16:18
mihgenwhat about updates repo for fuel pkgs?16:19
kozhukalovplease be aware that everyone from moscow team will be unavailable tomorrow16:20
ikalnitskymihgen, sorry, what do you mean?16:20
mihgenis it in yaml? so when we produce updates for nailgun, etc.16:20
ikalnitskyoh, got it16:20
ikalnitskyyes, it should be in yaml.16:20
mihgenpackages repo should be available, right16:20
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mihgenso is it there?016:20
ikalnitskyi didn't add this because i don't know exact location16:20
ikalnitskybrain461, could you help me with it?16:20
ikalnitskydo we have updates channel online?16:21
mihgenthat's not good. teran_ should help here, together with aglarendil16:21
brain461ikalnitsky: sure16:21
mihgenwe need to know location upfront16:21
ikalnitskyanyone who know - please add a comment in review16:22
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kozhukalovok, I think the status here is quite clear16:22
kozhukalovmoving on?16:22
mihgenpatching feature FF criteria should be ability to just run apt-get update <package>, if package is placed manually to the required location16:22
mihgenikalnitsky: so please find out location and inject into yaml16:22
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mihgenthanks, let's move on16:22
ikalnitskymihgen, ok.16:22
kozhukalov#topic IBP (agordeev)16:23
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agordeevmerge status: I'm pleased to announce that all IBP fixes have successfully passed FF. Thanks everyone for participating.16:23
agordeevbackports to 6.0:16:23
agordeevI'm still insisting on backporting of ibp-reconnect to 6.0. Additionaly it will close one of customer-found bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/6.0.x/+bug/138912016:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 6 in Launchpad itself ""next 10 entries" at bottom of page" [Medium,Invalid] - Assigned to Carlos Perelló Marín (carlos)16:23
agordeevhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/161721/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161722/16:23
agordeevLet me know should i need to ask for merge exception on mail list or not.16:23
kozhukalovagordeev: but we still need to re-work image build script and fix provision progress bar, right?16:24
agordeevright16:24
agordeevTo deliver IBP only the following 2 thing required (besides bug fixing):16:24
agordeev1) to re-implement tool for building image in python16:24
kozhukalovi gonna take next week16:24
agordeev2) implement proper progress tracking16:24
agordeevBugs: not so much bugs are still here. Most of them are medium16:24
kozhukalovboth those items are critical bugs on launchpad16:25
mihgenagordeev: how long would it take to rewrite bash to python for image building?16:25
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agordeevalso few days ago, i was notified by QA folks that swarm jobs are failing.16:25
mihgenabout reconnects - I think you'd need to raise it in email in openstack-dev..16:25
agordeevmihgen: 2-3w16:25
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kozhukalovagordeev: sounds like a little bit too long16:26
mihgenthat's gonna be too late in release cycle, we would bring additional risks of new python code16:26
mihgencan we survive with bash then in this release?16:26
kozhukalovagordeev, let's prioritize it correctly16:27
agordeevi'll try to fit into 2w16:27
mihgenand prepare & polish python code for the 7.016:27
kozhukalovagordeev: i believe we can implement the majority of this in just 1 w16:27
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mihgenkozhukalov: you'd be fixing bugs then for couple more weeks, and release not very stable code at the end16:28
agordeevmihgen: bash version is just MVP, and nothing more16:28
mihgenit didn't meet FF then16:28
kozhukalovmihgen: actually we can survive, but I'd be strictly oriented on python version of this script16:28
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mihgenwe need to look into details then. Can you please share in the email link to script, amount of work to be done in python, etc.16:29
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mihgenso we can have a look what risks are there16:29
agordeevmihgen: sure, i'll do16:29
mihgenthx16:29
mihgenabout swarm, we need to figure out what's in there16:29
kozhukalovmihgen: if someone with ruby skills can help with progress bar, then i think we can make it happen much faster (i mean image build script in python)16:30
mihgenactually since we enabled it by default, I'm curious if everything is ok on our scale lab16:30
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agordeevmihgen: as i can see, swarm jobs has been failing for 1 month at least16:30
mihgenkozhukalov: I know warpc is on vacation, but when is he back?16:30
mihgenO_o16:30
mihgenlet's fix it! why it's so16:31
agordeevhttp://jenkins-product.srt.mirantis.net:8080/view/6.1_swarm/job/6.1.system_test.centos.thread_5/ eg16:31
kozhukalovdpyzhov ^^^ next week. right?16:31
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kozhukalovaglarendil: can we give some help from warpc next week?16:32
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kozhukalovor he's going to be busy with something else?16:32
mihgenok let's move on. kozhukalov, pls let me know later if you've got warpc16:33
kozhukalovmihgen: ok16:33
mihgenthen, dilyin might be able to help too16:33
kozhukalov#topic Patching-related things in Fuel (packaging, enabled "updates" repo)16:33
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kozhukalovaglarendil: around?16:34
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mihgenmattymo: who can reply for packaging here?16:34
kozhukalovmihgen: afaik we have merged packages related stuff for docker containers, bootstrap image and centos target images (at least)16:35
mihgenthx. it's pity folks are not here for patching.16:36
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mihgenok, let's move on16:36
kozhukalovmihgen: but i have no idea about the whole status around this16:36
kozhukalovok16:36
kozhukalov#topic Fuel Library modularization status (adidenko)16:36
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alex_didenkoOnly ceilometer task is not yet merged from Step #4 of our implementation plan https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-specs/blob/master/specs/6.1/fuel-library-modularization.rst#implementation-plan16:37
alex_didenkoHere it is - https://review.openstack.org/16345716:37
alex_didenkoWe've uploaded new patchsets today and it passes local deployment and OSTF tests, so it's ready for reviews. I'm still running some local tests for it though.16:37
alex_didenkoSo currently we have over 30 different puppet tasks instead of single site.pp for controller node deployment.16:37
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mihgenexcellent16:37
mihgenonce it's landed, are we done for 6.1?16:38
alex_didenkoyep16:38
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mihgencool. Will you document it somewhere, what was splitted, and how to use it?16:38
kozhukalovgood to hear this16:38
mihgenI'd love to see a single list of separated things16:38
mihgenand how to disable some of them, for instace.16:39
mihgenit should be pretty handy for field engineers16:39
alex_didenkook, I'll double-check what we have in docs/specs already and let you know16:39
kozhukalovif there are no other q, moving on16:39
mihgenthx. We might want to add some piece into user/dev docs, at least a reference to this spec16:39
alex_didenkowe have tasks graph visialisation tools, so it should help to get actual info at any time16:40
mihgenyou know that we have it, but I'm not yet as a user )16:40
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kozhukalovalex_didenko: is it available in runtime for a user?16:40
mihgenso it has to be documented. No need to write poem, but short description would be very beneficial16:40
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alex_didenkoas far as I know it's available via CLI on fuel node16:40
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alex_didenkobut did not have time yet to check it myself :)16:41
kozhukalovalex_didenko: that is awesome16:41
kozhukalovok, next topic16:41
alex_didenkowe have a card on our trello board about doc, so we'll take care of it16:41
kozhukalov#topic Ability to add roles via REST API (dshulyak)16:41
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kozhukalovlooks like dshulyak is not here16:42
xarsesis there a link for it?16:42
kozhukalovxarses: i have no idea if there is one16:43
mihgenlet's move on for now, and try to catch dshulyak later16:43
mihgenI'm trying to get him in skype16:43
kozhukalov#topic Fuel plugin notification in the UI (evgenyl)16:43
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kozhukalovevgenyl is also not here16:45
kozhukalovaglarendil: around?16:45
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mihgenevgeniyl___: #topic Fuel plugin notification in the UI (evgenyl)16:45
evgeniyl___Hi guys.16:45
kozhukalovevgeniyl___: great, to see you here16:46
kozhukalovevgeniyl___: could you please give us status about16:46
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kozhukalov Fuel plugin notification in the UI16:46
evgeniyl___Actually we've implemented the feature.16:46
evgeniyl___#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164256/16:46
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evgeniyl___Now we show a list of installed plugins.16:46
evgeniyl___With their descriptions.16:46
evgeniyl___Also the same information is in notification.16:47
evgeniyl___Any questions?16:47
evgeniyl___That is all.16:47
adaninCan a plugin throw some notifications just after it was installed?16:48
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kozhukalovso, it's been merged and works, no q from my side16:48
evgeniyl___It was not a big deal to implement, but in the next release we should come up with more proper solution.16:48
evgeniyl___adanin: plugin cannot create any custom notifications or banners or anything else.16:48
xarsescan we refresh the plugins list in a created, but not deployed cluster now?16:48
mihgenthx. Q: do you use description field in meta of a plugin?16:48
evgeniyl___adanin: so far.16:48
evgeniyl___mihgen: yes.16:48
evgeniyl___xarses: no, you cannot do that.16:49
xarses=(16:49
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mihgenwhat do you mean under refresh ?16:50
evgeniyl___xarses: we have plans to rewrite this part, to provide better deletion mechanism and as result it can help with enabling plugins after env creation.16:50
evgeniyl___mihgen: currently there is no way to see checkbox on settings tab, after environment is created, even if new plugin was installed16:50
evgeniyl___mihgen: user has to recreate the env, to see new plugins.16:51
evgeniyl___xarses: did I get your question correctly?16:51
mihgenwell it's fair limitation I would say16:51
xarsesevgeniyl___: seems yes16:51
mihgenfor now) Let's see if we can get rid of it in next release though16:52
mihgenhow much efforts it would take16:52
mihgenok thx evgeniyl___16:52
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kozhukalovok, we have 7 minutes16:53
kozhukalovand looks like dshulyak and aglarendil are unavailable16:53
kozhukalovopen discussion then16:53
kozhukalov#topic open discussion16:53
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kozhukalovdoes anybody have anything to discuss?16:54
kozhukalovlooks like noone has.16:54
xarsescan we get review / merge on16:54
xarses#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158996/16:54
xarses#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16403816:55
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kozhukalov5 people set +1 for the first of this patches16:55
kozhukalovlet's merge it16:55
angdrauglooks like there's enough consensus to merge them both16:55
kozhukalovangdraug: yep16:56
angdraugxarses: is that the last of openrc fixes?16:56
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kozhukalovangdraug: were there other fixes?16:56
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xarsesangdraug: no, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158995/ is still open16:57
xarsesIt's broken and I need to fix it16:57
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angdraugok16:58
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kozhukalovending?16:58
kozhukalovthanx everyone for attending16:58
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kozhukalovgreat meeting16:58
kozhukalov#endmeeting16:59
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ukbelcho/17:01
hyakuhei#startmeeting OpenStack Security Group17:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 19 17:01:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group'17:01
hyakuheiHey ukbelch17:01
tkelseyo/17:01
elmikoo/17:01
ljfishero/17:01
tmcpeaksup17:01
dwyde\o17:01
singlethinko/17:01
sicariehello17:01
bpb_o/17:01
dave-mccowano/17:01
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bknudsonhi17:02
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hyakuheiSo we I have good news, bad news and governance news for you guys, what else should be on the agenda?17:02
ukbelchbandit! :P17:03
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tmcpeaksecurity dev practices17:03
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* sicarie runs off to do a pull request17:03
bdpayneo/17:03
sicariesorry rob!17:03
hyakuheiCool17:04
hyakuheiSo I suppose we should start with the not so great news… bdpayne ?17:04
bdpayneoh is that me?17:04
bknudsonturn in your badge and your gun on the way out.17:04
dg_we've all been fired?17:04
bdpaynelol17:05
hyakuheiagain?17:05
dg_it was only a matter of time17:05
bdpaynewell, for those that haven't seen the news, I'm leaving Nebula at the end of the month17:05
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bknudsonbdpayne: still attending the summit?17:05
bdpaynemy new job is not in the OpenStack space17:05
dg_still doing awesome?17:05
bdpayneso I'll be needing to bow out of this community17:05
bdpayneI am currently planning to attend the summit17:05
ukbelchah... congrats to you, comiserations to us17:05
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elmikoukbelch++17:06
bdpayneand, of course, I'll be doing awesome (at Netflix)17:06
tkelseythats a shame bdpayne, you have done really awesome stuff17:06
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bknudsonbdpayne will probably be tan and happy.17:06
bdpaynethanks guys17:06
elmikoooh neat!17:06
tkelseybut good luck for your next gig :)17:06
dg_congratulations on the new job, but thats a real shame for the community!17:06
hyakuhei+117:06
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bknudsonthanks for all you've done.17:06
hyakuheiYes indeed, thank you bdpayne - take a bow :)17:06
tmcpeakit's been great working with you bdpayne, maybe again some day?17:06
bdpayneyou're welcome... it's been a great time and I'm so glad to see the OSSG where it is today17:07
* bdpayne bows17:07
hyakuhei:D17:07
hyakuheiSo I suppose that brings me onto some good news17:07
dg_you're also leaving?17:07
elmikoouch...17:07
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tkelseyLOL17:07
bknudsonouch17:07
tmcpeaklol17:07
ukbelchburn17:07
hyakuheiAnnouncements etc will follow but the VMT and the OSSG are going to merge17:07
tmcpeak(claps)17:08
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dg_good work17:08
bknudsonI guess that's good news too.17:08
hyakuheiWhich paves the way for the OSSG to apply to become the ‘Security’ project team, officially a part of OpenStack17:08
elmikocool17:08
tkelseynice!17:08
ukbelchnice17:08
redrobotwoot!17:08
bknudsonthere's still a vmt?17:08
hyakuheiWhich I’m sure won’t turn your frowns upside down after bdpayne’s bad news but it’s good progress.17:08
hyakuheibknudson: absolutely17:08
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hyakuheiThey will be under security from an organsiational point of view but will retain all of their indipendance17:09
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bknudsonah, makes sense.17:09
hyakuheiit will stop the outward confusion that sometimes results in having the VMT and OSSG separately17:09
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dg_:)17:09
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hyakuheiMy intention is that security becomes a horizontal team just like the documentation team17:09
hyakuheiwelcome nkinder !17:09
bdpaynethis sounds like a great path17:10
hyakuheiI hope so17:10
hyakuheithere should be an announcement in a few days, followed by lots of shuffling around of various things, web pages, wiki stuf etc17:11
redrobothyakuhei will there be a OSSG PTL?17:11
hyakuheiYup17:11
hyakuheiWhich brings me nicely onto the next topic :) once this all shuffles around we’ll have to elect a PTL before the next summit.17:12
tmcpeakhow where when?17:13
hyakuheiCurrently our election process is more in line with how the TC does things than how I think I’ve seen some other projects manage themselves, so any input on good/bad ways to do this would be appreciated17:13
* bdpayne will not be running ;-)17:13
bknudsonis there a special procedure for initial PTL?17:13
hyakuheibknudson: yeah, I put my name next to ‘initial PTL’ in the application :P17:13
ukbelchnames in a hat? :P17:13
tkelseylast man standing :P17:13
ukbelchthrough a medium of CoD?17:14
bknudsonhyakuhei: +1 from me.17:14
hyakuheiheh, cheers17:14
dg_ukbelch no, shots17:14
tkelseyyeah hyakuhei +1 here as well17:14
ukbelchdone deal17:14
* bknudson is surprised the application isn't in gerrit.17:14
hyakuheiI’ve been super focused on this over the last week (lots of moving parts, email threads etc)17:14
hyakuheibknudson: It ends up there17:14
tmcpeakwell we already elected you to OSSG lead, why wouldn't you be PTL?17:15
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hyakuheiI’ve not submitted it yet because I needed to get things aligned with the VMT17:15
dg_because vmt17:15
tmcpeakoh17:15
bknudsonit's great to see this happen... getting where we belong.17:15
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hyakuheiSo I’ll be the inital PTL, grandfarthered in I suppose but elections will come shortly after.17:15
dg_i think its a real positive step to merge vmt and ossg17:15
hyakuheiSo I can do all this work and some chancer like dg_ can try to steal the election :P17:16
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dg_hyakuhei its a figurehead position, right ;)17:16
hyakuheiok, so that’ enough fluffy stuff, tmcpeak want to talk about Bandit ?17:16
ukbelchMy vote costs a simple pint of ale, and a meat pie :)17:16
tmcpeaksure17:16
hyakuhei#topic bandit17:16
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tmcpeakwe've been trying to make sure Bandit is stable ahead of version pin17:16
tmcpeakbrowne and dwyde in particular have found some great bugs17:17
bknudsonhttps://pypi.python.org/pypi/bandit/ :(17:17
tmcpeakwhich we are in the process of fixing17:17
bknudsondoesn't have to be perfect.17:17
tmcpeakwe want to have all bugs Medium+ fixed ahead of version pin17:17
tmcpeakyeah, some of these are (IMO) important enough I wouldn't be comfortable having "the world" see Bandit initially with them17:17
tmcpeakanyway, fixes are cruising along17:18
tmcpeakukbelch, chair6, tkelsey, and myself doing some fixes17:18
ukbelchis ljfisher on? One of the fixes has modified the JSON output a tad17:18
tmcpeakI'd expect to be probably back where I expected to be last Monday next Monday17:18
ukbelcherr, fletcher17:18
ukbelchnot fisher17:18
ljfisher:)17:18
tmcpeakwhich, considering all the stuff we are fixing is well worth it17:18
tmcpeakso anybody that wants to help, assign a bug to yourself or run Bandit and try to break it17:19
tmcpeakfile bugs on Launchpad etc17:19
tmcpeakotherwise, sit tight, we'll be pinning soon17:19
tmcpeakanybody want to mention anything else on Bandit?17:19
* bknudson sits17:19
tmcpeakcool17:19
tmcpeak:)17:19
hyakuheiI get the feeling this might be a short meeting today :)17:20
hyakuhei#topic General17:20
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tmcpeaksecurity dev guidance :D :D17:20
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hyakuheitmcpeak: You had an action last meeting to look at that I think? Or was that OSSN? I forget, you’re so helpful taking actions :)17:20
tmcpeakit was sicarie17:21
sicarieYep17:21
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sicarieI did a first pass to standardize formatting, as well as (in anticipation they'd be merged into the security doc repo) changed filename formats17:21
hyakuheiYeah the filename formatting was pretty tidy17:22
sicarieI promised hyakuhei a pull request so those changes could be compared a bit easier17:22
sicarieand I had started reviewing in detail, but only got through 3 or 417:22
sicarieSo still ongoing17:22
hyakuheicool thanks sicarie17:23
tmcpeakthanks sicarie!17:23
hyakuheitmcpeak: I thought it was you that volunteered to help with the OSSN formatting? We wanted to munge them into Yaml iirc.17:23
tmcpeakthat was gmurphy17:24
tmcpeakand nkinder17:24
hyakuheiAh right ok17:24
hyakuheinkinder: any progres there?17:25
nkinderit was me17:25
nkinderno, not yet17:25
hyakuheiI’ve been using a lot of gmurphy’s time on other things this week17:25
hyakuheiok cool, lets make it an action for next week?17:25
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tmcpeakhyakuhei: sounds good17:25
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hyakuhei#action nkinder to report back on attempts to transform historical OSSNs into a more parsable format17:26
nkinderSure.  I'll likely convert just one and see what we all thing17:26
nkinderthink17:26
tmcpeaksounds good17:26
hyakuheiYeah17:27
hyakuheiEasiest to do something that will easily convert most of them17:27
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hyakuheiand just manually convert the few that break the conversion tool/code/script/thing17:27
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tmcpeakif somebody can get me the format we want, I can hack together a convert tool17:27
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hyakuheitmcpeak: ping gmurphy for the yaml or check the logs from last week, there’s a link in there17:28
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tmcpeakhyakuhei: ok17:28
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hyakuheiredrobot: if you’re still around could you maybe give us an update on what’s going on with asymmetric crypt in Barbican? There’s been a lot of questions flying around recently.17:29
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redroboto/17:29
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redrobotso, we can currently store asymm keys via Containers17:29
redrobotthere's a patch in flight to add asymm key generation to one of the backends (KMIP)17:29
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redrobot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163989/17:30
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redrobotBarbican does not currently verify that asymm keys submitted to the system are indeed keys...17:31
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hyakuheiCool, so asym and sym both “work” at least for store,update,destroy and soon create too?17:31
hyakuheiah you just give it two blobs ?17:31
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redrobotyeah, we plan to tackle more in-depth validation in Liberty17:31
hyakuheiMakes sense, shouldn’t be too hard to do either17:32
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hyakuheiThanks for the info redrobot17:33
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hyakuheiOk peoples, anything else to discuss today?17:33
* redrobot nods17:33
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bknudsonI like "   Package Index Owner:   tmcpeak, chair6, openstackci  " on https://pypi.python.org/pypi/bandit/17:33
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hyakuheiheh yeah I noticed that :)17:34
redrobotbknudson woot!  now we can all get "bandit" tattoos17:34
tmcpeakI already have one ;)17:34
tkelseylol17:34
sicarieIf anyone wants to drop some knowledge on the sec guide, any reviews or contributions of storage, networking, compute, identity, or dashboard sections are welcome17:34
dg_:d17:34
bknudsonI got hotpants a little too quickly.17:34
hyakuheiredrobot: when are you going to put Bandit in the Barbican gate!? You know there’s a queue right?17:34
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redrobothyakuhei hehe...  I'll have to ping our contributor who did the review during the mid cycle17:35
hyakuhei:D17:35
redrobothyakuhei I think there was a few bugs filed that we were waiting on fixes before making a gate17:35
redrobotbuut... I wouldn't be opposed to adding a gate in the experimental pipeline17:36
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dave-mccowanredrobot bandit is looking good now.  the false positives it found in barbican have been fixed.17:36
hyakuheioooh :)17:36
redrobotdave-mccowan ah there you are! :D17:36
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redrobotI can take an action item to get a bandit experimental gate set up17:37
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redrobotthough I think we may need a bandit release in PyPI17:37
tmcpeakredrobot: it's coming soon!17:37
redrobotI wonder if Bandit would have caught this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165678/ ?17:39
hyakuheiI think it’s pretty likely17:39
tmcpeakif md5 was called it would have17:39
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dwydeunrelated question: are any of y’all going to be at PyCon?17:41
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hyakuheiI guess not :)17:43
bknudsonI know of a couple of keystone folks going to pycon.17:43
hyakuheiCool where is it this year?17:43
dwydeMontreal17:43
hyakuheinice17:43
dg_sign me pu!17:43
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hyakuheiOk, lets call it a day. Thank you everyone!17:46
tmcpeakthanks!17:46
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hyakuheiand of course, thank you to bdpayne - will you be joining us next week?17:46
bknudson#link https://us.pycon.org/2015/schedule/presentation/304/17:46
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bdpayneI will not17:47
bdpaynethis is likely my last meeting17:47
bknudsonlook us up at the summit17:47
dg_sadface17:47
bknudsonI think netflix uses amazon?17:47
dg_all the best for the future Bryan, stay in touch17:47
bknudsonmake them switch17:47
bdpayneyes17:47
bdpayneparty at the summit :-)17:47
tkelsey+117:47
bdpayneheh, I'll get right on that17:47
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hyakuheiwell thanks for everything bdpayne - beers coming your way in Vancouver!17:48
hyakuhei#endmeeting17:48
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-19-17.01.html17:48
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-19-17.01.txt17:48
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-19-17.01.log.html17:48
nkinderthanks all!17:48
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SergeyLukjanovhey sahara folks!17:59
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elmikohey!18:00
vgridnev_hey18:00
huichun^^18:00
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SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting sahara18:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 19 18:00:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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SergeyLukjanov#topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov)18:00
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SergeyLukjanov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon18:01
elmikocrobertsrh is at spark summit east, might not be here18:01
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NikitaKonovalovas usual we still have changes on review18:01
SergeyLukjanovNikitaKonovalov, it looks like Chad is offline, so, it's fully your topic18:01
elmikobut i saw that his guided cluster stuff got workflow+18:01
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, oh, spark summit, interesting ;)18:01
NikitaKonovalovthe most critical is Job executions fix18:01
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tmckayhowdy18:02
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NikitaKonovalovbut we've got cluster and job execution wizard merged18:02
NikitaKonovalovwhich is a good sign18:02
elmiko\o/18:02
toskyyep, the job execution fix is *really* needed18:02
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toskyNikitaKonovalov: did you rebase it? Few hours ago it had a merge conflict18:02
NikitaKonovalovIt does not look like we might need any new changes for kilo18:02
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NikitaKonovalovtosky: I did but now I've noticed that I had not sent it on review again18:03
NikitaKonovalovthanks for the reminder18:03
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toskyNikitaKonovalov: if you do it now, everyone here can refresh the +1 "live"18:03
tosky:)18:04
elmikohehe18:04
NikitaKonovalovI'll do that18:04
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NikitaKonovalovas for the huge feature changes, the event-log is almost ready18:04
NikitaKonovalovIt is waiting for the client change18:04
NikitaKonovalovso that's all updates I've got18:05
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SergeyLukjanovokay, thx18:05
SergeyLukjanov++ for job exec18:05
vgridnev_is there some probability that is would be merged in Kilo?18:05
SergeyLukjanovvgridnev_, I think it should be18:05
SergeyLukjanov#topic Feature Freeze / kilo-318:05
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SergeyLukjanovwe're now in feature freeze18:05
SergeyLukjanovthere are three FFEs approved18:06
SergeyLukjanov#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/Kilo/FPF_Exceptions18:06
SergeyLukjanoveverything else deferred to liberty18:06
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elmikoi think we should consider https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164684/18:06
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elmikoi don't think we need the extra requirement going into kilo18:06
SergeyLukjanovif you'll have something to request for FFE - please ping me and we'll discuss it and if needed I'll help to make a FFE18:07
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, ++ it's a kind of bug, so, no FFE needed for it18:07
elmikok, just wanted to bring it up18:07
elmikoi agree we don't want extra requirements18:07
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, agreed18:08
vgridnev_what about sahara.conf.sample? can we remove it under FF?18:08
SergeyLukjanov#info consider 164684 - drop barbican client req.18:08
SergeyLukjanovvgridnev_, yup, it's not a new feature18:08
alazarevvgridnev_, what is wrong with .sample?18:08
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SergeyLukjanovvgridnev_, we have a bug about the fact that it's now always out of date and it's just a fix for it18:09
SergeyLukjanovNOTE: we'll have RC1 early April, about April 9, it'll mean that CodeFreeze begins but master will be open for Liberty dev18:09
SergeyLukjanovso, master will be open for Liberty in ~3 weeks18:09
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elmikoegafford brought up the idea of having the .sample generated as a post-commit hook, is that something we can investigate?18:09
huichunvgridnev_: Hi Vitaly so we will not add new code in the old style integration test? we need to apply new integration test in the future? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165640/18:10
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, the main issue is that when our requirements changing - config changing as well18:10
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, and it really depends on requirements installed18:11
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ack, just wanted to bring it up18:11
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, I've done the .sample file removal exactly the same way like it was done in nova18:11
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ok, sounds good18:11
vgridnev_huichun, yes18:11
SergeyLukjanovany question re FF, CF, etc *F?18:12
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tmckaySergeyLukjanov, so as long as exceptions are done before CF, it's okay?  they should be.18:13
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tmckayand then after CF, can we still fix bugs?  Or only on approval for RC-X18:13
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pino|workSergeyLukjanov: just one: an eventual bump of dib requirements in s-i-e (ie https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165930/ i just sent) is L material now only, right?18:15
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tmckaySergeyLukjanov, related question on the scope of exceptions.  For default-templates, we don't have any for MapR.  Should we?  And for job-type-endpoints, we haven't tried to make config hints any better, we've just moved them to the new endpoint.  Should we try to improve config hints?18:15
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, yeah, exceptions works for the time frame before the RC18:15
SergeyLukjanovafter CF only critical bugs should be fixed18:15
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SergeyLukjanov+ docs18:16
SergeyLukjanovpino|work, FF is for the sahara repo itself, s-i-e not on such freeze18:16
pino|workah? interesting to know18:16
vgridnev_tmckay, I think we should  try to ping guys from MapR to add some default templates18:17
SergeyLukjanovpino|work, FF means for s-i-e that we should carefully merge to stuff to not break but we can do18:17
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, it's ok to add MapR templates as part of this bp18:17
pino|workSergeyLukjanov: i see, thank you18:17
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, about config hints, it's a tricky question18:17
tmckayokay, my thought too on mapr.  I'll to to contact those guys.18:18
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, AFAIR the spec was talking something about config hints18:18
tmckayyes, we moved them, but we didn't improve them18:18
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, so, if we'll be able to improve them in time than we probably should do it18:18
tmckayokay18:18
tmckayI'll try, after everything else is done18:18
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tmckayAt the very least, we can add some for spark/java for the "edp." configs.  At least that18:19
elmikotmckay: i could help if needed18:19
tmckayelmiko, ack, thanks18:19
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tmckayelmiko, a lot of poking around documentation and xml files for the various distros and figuring out what options apply to a job18:20
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, cool!18:20
elmikotmckay: ok, lets talk alter18:20
elmiko*later18:20
tmckayand maybe dependent on which services are deployed18:20
elmikocould get complicated18:20
SergeyLukjanov#topic Open discussion18:21
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tmckayelmiko :) yep18:21
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elmikoi'm curious if sreshetn1 is going to take the wadl stuff?18:21
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, tmckay yeah, it's tricky a lot18:21
SergeyLukjanovre wadl - it sounds like we can separate work at least by edp and provisioning parts18:21
tmckayfolks, on the default-templates CR, I have generate a template.conf.sample, is the name okay?18:21
tmckayVery basic, sets flavor to 2 except for cdh masters (flavor 4)18:22
SergeyLukjanovsreshetn1 now investigating the right way of wadl creation18:22
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ok, i'm going to back off then, unless sreshetn1 wants some help18:22
tmckayfixing up the manifest file now, too18:22
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i do have swagger json for our api though, so we could generate skeleton xml from that fyi18:22
Poornimafolks would like to know can tempest api test migrated to sahara ?18:23
alazarevPoornima, it looks that it will be plan18:24
Poornimayeah Tempest has a scope of migrating api test to sahara project18:24
toskyabout that: I'm going to help with moving *CLI* tests from tempest to python-saharaclient - any concerns?18:24
elmikotosky: that makes sense to me18:24
Poornimacool tosky18:25
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alazarevtosky, do you think client is a good place? other projects depend on clirnt18:26
toskyalazarev: I think they QA are doing it for all the projects18:26
alazarevtosky, do you have link with that?18:26
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, ack18:27
toskyalazarev: I can point you to the discussion yesterday18:27
SergeyLukjanovPoornima, yeah, it was a global plan I think18:27
alazarevtosky, yes please18:27
toskyalazarev: from 2015-03-18T15:00:46 here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-qa/%23openstack-qa.2015-03-18.log18:27
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i'd like to talk a little about the external key manager stuff, considering we're pushing to Liberty should i maybe bring it up on ML?18:28
Poornimathanks SergeyLukjanov18:28
toskyalazarev: I started checking what was done by nova developers (mentioned there), it's not too difficult, but few steps that needs to be checked18:28
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Poornimain this cycle i would also like know  what all  functional test considered for sahara18:29
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, ++ for ML18:30
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SergeyLukjanovPoornima, we have a scenario based framework for integration testing sahara, it's based on the tempest-lib18:30
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Poornimaokay18:31
pino|workSergeyLukjanov: as mentioned earlier (and also in a couple of previous meetings), i'd like to ask about the dib requirements in s-i-e18:31
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ack18:33
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pino|workas i said, i just proposed a change to bump to the latest dib version there: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165930/18:33
pino|workso far all my image generation tests were okay (could not try the generated images yet, though)18:34
pino|workin this situation, the only problem left in dib when generating centos images is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162239/18:34
pino|work... which can be worked around easily, with export REG_HALT_UNREGISTER=118:35
pino|work(registration is subscription-manager, hence rhel-only stuff)18:35
pino|workhence i have two questions (with the second depending on the first)18:36
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pino|worka) provided there are no regression (even with export workaround in place), is it desirable to accept a dib requirement bump in s-i-e now?18:36
pino|workb) if (a), would further fixes/changes to adapt to a newer dib (like use DIB_DEBUG_TRACE instead of unconditional set -x everywhere, use the new yaml stuff for package installation, etc) be acceptable as well?18:37
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pino|work(end)18:38
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elmikopino|work: i'm +1 for a dib version upgrade18:38
elmikonot so sure about (b), it sounds good but i don't know enough about the changes18:39
SergeyLukjanov+1 for dib version upgrade18:40
SergeyLukjanovwe already been waiting for a long time for it ;)18:40
SergeyLukjanovanything else to discuss?18:42
SergeyLukjanovpino|work, thx for improving s-i-e18:42
pino|workso (a) is okay, and potentially (b) as well, depending on the changes?18:42
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SergeyLukjanovpino|work, yup, a) is ok for sure18:43
SergeyLukjanovand yes b) depends on changes18:43
SergeyLukjanovIMO we should try to use latest dib always18:43
elmikowe don't have any sort of specs for s-i-e, how should we propose the changes, in a bug?18:44
pino|workmakes sense, thank you for your answers!18:44
SergeyLukjanovbut we should be very careful to not introduce regressions18:44
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SergeyLukjanovlet's create a separated dir for it in specs like it done for client18:44
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SergeyLukjanovI'll do it after the meeting18:44
elmikoawesome18:44
SergeyLukjanovit'll be very helpful to discuss changes18:44
elmiko+118:44
pino|workoki18:45
toskyalazarev: re moving CLI tests, do you think I can proceed in the meantime?18:46
alazarevtosky, yes, if it is suggested way18:47
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toskyalazarev: ack, thanks18:48
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SergeyLukjanovfolks, please share your thoughts on summit topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-proposed-sessions18:49
SergeyLukjanov#info please share your thoughts on summit topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-proposed-sessions18:49
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: can you assign this to me, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/142998918:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429989 in Sahara "Hardcoded, weak, potentially unchangeable password in Cloudera plugin" [Critical,Confirmed]18:49
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i have a question about summit topics18:49
elmikoi'd like to propose a security update talk, we had good attendence in Paris, do you think i should propose fishbowl or smaller talk?18:50
PoornimaSergeyLukjanov++ tosky++  alazarev++ thanks for quick answers :)18:50
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i guess the question is, fish bowl or working session?18:51
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, assigned18:51
elmikothanks =)18:51
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, mm18:52
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elmikoyea... not sure it's big enough for fish bowl18:52
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, it's very important topic and we'd like to more folks to participate, so, probably it's fish bowl18:52
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ack, i'll add it to the pad18:52
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, fish bowl is good to attract more folks18:52
elmikoagreed18:52
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, great, thx18:52
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SergeyLukjanovwe need more ideas or we'll not have sessions at all :)18:53
elmikoyea, i didn't want to add it without a little more info18:53
elmikowe'll do some brainstorming and think of more =)18:53
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, if you have even 5 word idea - please add it, it's ok18:54
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ack18:54
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, it's important to have ideas18:54
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: just a warning i'm adding a v2 api topic ;)18:55
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, yeah :)18:55
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, I've been expecting it :)18:55
elmikoi know much more about pecan now, still not sure we want to switch but w/e18:56
weitingWe got one idea from our customer side, they would like to use one big virtual cluster to run different job by tenant.18:56
elmikoweiting: +1 multi-tenancy is a big topic18:56
SergeyLukjanovweiting, oh, interesting18:56
weitingIs it possible in current OpenStack?18:56
SergeyLukjanovweiting, nope18:56
SergeyLukjanovbut if we'll have a public support in ACLs than we'll be able to create a public cluster18:57
elmikowe need to watch keystone OS-FEDERATION too for that stuff18:57
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SergeyLukjanovand then users from different tenants will be able to run jobs18:57
weitingI think the request actually is because to create a cluster spends too much time currently.18:57
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SergeyLukjanov2 mins left18:58
elmikoanyways, good topic for summit18:58
weitingMay I add it in pad?18:58
SergeyLukjanovagreed18:58
elmikoweiting: yes!18:58
SergeyLukjanovweiting, sure18:58
SergeyLukjanovweiting, it's for ideas :)18:59
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SergeyLukjanovsreshetn1, you're a bit late :)19:00
elmikogood timing19:00
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SergeyLukjanovthank you folks!19:00
SergeyLukjanov#endmeeting19:00
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: thanks!19:00
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amitgandhinz#startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting19:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 19 19:01:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting'19:01
amitgandhinz#topic RollCall19:01
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sriram_/\_19:01
obulpathio/19:01
amitgandhinz\o/19:01
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amitgandhinzlooks like sriram lost his head19:02
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sriramlol19:02
Poornima:D19:02
tonytan4evero/19:02
* sriram goes to find his head :O19:02
obulpathihi Poornima19:02
obulpathiwelcome to Poppy19:02
catherineRo/19:02
amitgandhinz#link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy19:03
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amitgandhinz#topic Review Last Weeks Action Items19:03
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amitgandhinz#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-12-19.00.html19:03
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amitgandhinzgreat, no action items from last week19:04
amitgandhinzthat makes it easy =P19:04
sriramlol19:04
amitgandhinz#topic Bugs and Blueprints (K3)19:04
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amitgandhinz#link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-319:04
amitgandhinzlooks like a lot of bug activity =)19:05
amitgandhinzlets go through the blueprints first19:05
amitgandhinzfirst one is mine19:05
amitgandhinzamitgandhinz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/gate-api-tests19:06
amitgandhinzyeh, i have had a chance to pick this back up again19:06
amitgandhinzive been too focused on fixing bugs19:06
amitgandhinzi updated its status to reflect the slow progress =/19:06
amitgandhinzhopefully once some of these bugs are resolved i can get back on to running these at the gate19:06
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sriram+119:07
amitgandhinzok next one...19:07
amitgandhinztonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/vanity-ssl19:07
amitgandhinzhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/san-cert-ssl19:07
tonytan4everI would say san cert one is in good progress.19:07
tonytan4everAnd vanity-ssl one has not yet been started yet.19:07
tonytan4everAs I am focusing on san-cert implementation.19:08
tonytan4everBut I should be able to start it soon.19:08
amitgandhinzawesome19:08
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amitgandhinzi would like to give tonytan4ever a round of applause as he is making a significantly complex api from akamai for SAN provisioning, and will be boiling it down to a single field in poppy =D19:09
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obulpathiyay!19:09
obulpathiapplause for tonytan4ever!19:10
* sriram claps19:10
tonytan4everThank a lot.19:10
amitgandhinztonytan4ever: looks like this was implemented too this week -https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/cassandra-schema-versioning19:10
* sriram claps really hard19:10
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tonytan4everThat was couple weeks ago.19:10
obulpathinow I can hear it19:10
amitgandhinzoh, i dont think we covered it last week19:10
amitgandhinzmaybe its been a long week19:10
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amitgandhinzmiqui: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc19:11
amitgandhinzi saw a patch for this come through today19:11
amitgandhinzcan everyone review it please19:11
obulpathion it19:11
miquihello19:11
wbrothersI'm here19:11
miquihi folks...19:11
miquibeen a while....19:12
amitgandhinzhi miqui!19:12
miquihi19:12
miquiyeah i placed a patch out there with latest suggestion./review...19:12
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sriramon it.19:12
amitgandhinzcool19:12
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amitgandhinzok anyhting else on blueprints or we can move onto bugs19:12
miquithanks guys..sorry took a million years...19:12
miquiand that is my fault...19:13
amitgandhinzmiqui: its ok.19:13
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amitgandhinzok bugs...19:13
amitgandhinztheres has been a flurry of bugs recently found (which is good since they are now known)19:14
sriramdo we have them all documented?19:14
amitgandhinzya19:14
amitgandhinzobulpathi has been good at doing that19:14
amitgandhinzok first one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/143283319:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1432833 in Poppy "Poppy creates too many worker threads and does not kill them" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi)19:14
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amitgandhinzthis is merged isnt it?19:15
obulpathiyep19:15
obulpathithat issue if fixed now19:15
amitgandhinzplease remember to reference the bug in the commit19:15
obulpathiamitgandhinz: yep, doing for most of the bugs19:15
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/143309819:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433098 in Poppy "Strip "/" from the end of origin url and domain url's" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi)19:16
amitgandhinzi believe this is also merged?19:16
obulpathiyes19:16
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/142094519:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1420945 in Poppy "default ttl not automatically assigned" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Amit Gandhi (amit-gandhi)19:16
amitgandhinzthis one is still in progress19:16
amitgandhinzi submitted a patch, but i want to simplify it so marked it as a WIP19:16
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/142787219:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1427872 in Poppy "500 domains limit reached for Racksapce DNS" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi)19:17
obulpathiwe changed the configuration option in Rackspace driver19:17
amitgandhinzwas this merged, or in review?19:17
obulpathimerged19:18
obulpathidon't why I missed referencing so many bugs :(19:18
* amitgandhinz nods head of disapproval19:18
sriramwe should be looking at it when we review.19:18
amitgandhinz+119:18
sriramlets make that a point from now on.19:19
obulpathi+119:19
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amitgandhinzi will only give a +1 here if there is a bug report for this ;-019:19
sriram:P19:19
obulpathicool19:19
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/142917319:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429173 in Poppy "Provider failure leaves the state of service in "update_in_progress"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Amit Gandhi (amit-gandhi)19:19
amitgandhinzthis one i am currently working on19:20
amitgandhinzi just submitted a patch actually, and about to run the api tests to make sure they still pass19:20
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amitgandhinzok, those are al the inprogress ones19:21
amitgandhinzany thing else to discuss on bugs and bps?19:21
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amitgandhinzthere are a bunch committed, but im not going to go through them all19:21
obulpathinop, nothing from me19:22
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amitgandhinz#topic New Items19:22
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amitgandhinznothing on the agenda.19:22
amitgandhinz#topic Open Discussion19:22
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miquiany new designs/bps?19:23
miquiwhats the latest overall direction?19:23
amitgandhinzso there has been a lot of focus on bug fixing19:23
miquiok..19:23
amitgandhinzbesides the bug fixing, there are a few open bp we didnt get to19:23
miquisounds good..19:23
miquii'll see what i can grab19:24
amitgandhinzif you want a story to pick up that has some weight - would you be interested in the devstack integration?19:24
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amitgandhinzit should be a pretty decent size story19:24
miquiok, i'll have a look... thanks!19:24
amitgandhinzthat or the sqlalchemy driver19:25
amitgandhinzboth are pretty large IMO19:25
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amitgandhinzcool thanks miqui19:26
miquiok, i'll check out both....and let you know what i decided...19:26
sriramthere are also the conformance tests, but I dont know how they are prioritized.19:26
amitgandhinzand of course ask lots of questions in the channel as you need19:26
miquisure..19:26
amitgandhinzi like the devstack and sqlalchemy ones as they make it easier to get poppy up and running (removes cassandra requiremt, and makes it easy to install)19:27
amitgandhinzIOW makes it more operator friendly across openstack vendors19:27
miquihehehe i like cassandra...but then again i am not an operator...19:28
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amitgandhinzyeh, i like cassandra too (and its much more scalable).  but for operators who dont need a db replicating around the world, and who already use a sql infra, sqlalchemy is better for them19:29
miquii see..19:29
miquimake sense..19:29
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amitgandhinzand there is nothing in poppy that requires cassandra.  its just better from a ops perspective when deploying to multiple datacenters and handling for failover scenarios19:29
amitgandhinzok, anything else ya'll want to discuss?19:31
miquinot me ...am done... thanks19:31
obulpathinothing  from me19:31
tonytan4everI am good.19:32
wbrothersI'm good19:32
amitgandhinzbtw miqui, at rackspace we are gearing up for a public release of poppy (we are calling it Rackspace CDN here as the marketed product)19:32
miquicool...19:33
amitgandhinzwe currently are in Beta, but once we get some of these bugs knocked out we will be able to launch it19:33
amitgandhinzok... if no one else has stuff to discuss, we can end the meeting early19:34
amitgandhinzgoing once19:34
sriramfine with me :)19:34
obulpathimiqui: any plans to launch Poppy at your company?19:34
miquihmm dont think so...19:35
miquithats a good question....19:35
amitgandhinzmiqui: do you work with the helion teams?19:35
miquinot directly, but i have some contacts....19:35
miquii can discuss with themm...19:35
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obulpathimiqui: let us know if HP is planning a launch19:37
amitgandhinzyeh it would be good to get their involvement too.  im sure they will be interested19:37
miquik, i will ask...19:37
amitgandhinzthanks =)19:37
amitgandhinzok, if nothing else....19:37
amitgandhinzgoing once.....19:37
amitgandhinzgoing twice......19:38
amitgandhinzthanks everybody =D19:38
sriramsee ya!19:38
amitgandhinz#endmeeting19:38
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