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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 12 15:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:00 |
| u_glide | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | small group today! | 15:01 |
| bswartz | maybe some people forgot about the time change... | 15:01 |
| geguileo | Hi | 15:01 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
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| gary-smith__ | hi | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic K-3 status / FF status | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K-3 status / FF status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-3 | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so the good news is that we merged a good new of BPs in the last week | 15:02 |
| bswartz | good number* of BPs | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I only see 6 left to get done before feature freeze | 15:03 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone for prioritizing reviews of these BPs | 15:03 |
| bswartz | I want to get the remaining 6 merged by Tuesday of next week | 15:03 |
| bswartz | if one slips to Wednesday that's not a big deal | 15:04 |
| bswartz | we still still have multiple open on Wednesday I'm going to be nervous | 15:04 |
| bswartz | The final feature freeze date is Thursday next week | 15:04 |
| bswartz | anyone have questions about this? | 15:04 |
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| csaba | what hour? :) | 15:05 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | let's say before we have this meeting next week | 15:05 |
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| csaba | ok | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | I need to give ttx the commit hash for K-3 after the IRC meeting, but I want to do it on Wednesday ideally | 15:06 |
| bswartz | or even Tuesday if we can manage it | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | csaba I know you have a non-targetted BP you're hoping to get in | 15:06 |
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| csaba | yep :S | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | is it ready to merge? | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so reviewers can +2 you | 15:07 |
| csaba | no, cknight has done a review but unit tests are WIP | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I'll take a look too after I get to all the others | 15:08 |
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| csaba | ok | 15:08 |
| csaba | thx | 15:08 |
| bswartz | non-targetted BPs are *lowest* priority though for reviewers | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | please review the targeted ones first, then take a look at the rest | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | I'll -2 anything that looks too risky | 15:09 |
| bswartz | I haven't gone through the whole list yet | 15:09 |
| bswartz | but I have time today for reviews | 15:09 |
| bswartz | anything else on this before we move on? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic postgres support | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "postgres support (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:10 | |
| bswartz | so mark-os has been trying to get manila running on top of postgres and having some problems | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | we don't actively test on postgres, but it's something we want to support | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | actively? we don't at all =) | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | I have a feeling we might not get around to fulfilling that promise until liberty, but I wanted to check if anyone had a different view | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: by "we" I mean the whole community, not just the core team | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: and I mean CI | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I want to add a check/gate job that installs manila on postgres and runs tests | 15:12 |
| bswartz | but before we can do that, we have to find/fix the bugs | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | actually we can do it in parallel, just making it non-voting | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | does anyone think there's a chance we could fix 1 or 2 bugs and have postgres 100% supported? or are we farther away than that? | 15:13 |
| u_glide | vponomaryov +1 | 15:13 |
| geguileo | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:14 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: that's true, but it's not a high priority if we know that postgres is horribly broken | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | the priority is to make it mostly work first before we start burning CI resources to test it | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: tempest job with postgres will tell us | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we can make not static job | 15:15 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz:but experimental | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: that runs only by poking action | 15:15 |
| kaisers | Hi, sry, <- late | 15:15 |
| bswartz | anyways I'm not hearing that anyone has tried this yet -- so it's still a big open question | 15:15 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: good idea | 15:15 |
| bswartz | anyways let's keep helping mark-os and anyone else who wants to spend time on that | 15:16 |
| bswartz | during liberty we definitely need to get postgres officially supported | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #topic unit tests on python 3.4 | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "unit tests on python 3.4 (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| bswartz | so I noticed that we're not currently testing on python 3 | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | what holds us back from python 3 support? | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: some deps | 15:18 |
| bswartz | many other openstack projects test on both | 15:18 |
| bswartz | and we've done a good amount of work to support both | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: a lot of deps? how much work? | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: need to investigate | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | I don't want to fall behind he rest of the community in this area | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: some can be replaced by "six" like "pipes" | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | it's not urgent, but if we can get a python 3.4 check job running in liberty I think that would be good | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: non-voting - anytime =) | 15:20 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:20 |
| bswartz | well I don't want to have a job that's always failing -- esp if we're not going to fix the problems until liberty | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | it's probably a bad idea to make a bunch of six changes during K-4 | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so we don't do that | 15:21 |
| bswartz | won't* | 15:21 |
| bswartz | okay enough on that | 15:22 |
| bswartz | #topic Horizon plugin for Manila | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | markstur: here? | 15:22 |
| markstur | The Horizon team has been talking about Manila: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-03-11-20.00.log.html | 15:22 |
| markstur | Quote: "20:55:23 <david-lyle> murano will be here soon and manila and those should be plugins". | 15:22 |
| gary-smith__ | I work with Mark... | 15:22 |
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| markstur | The model Horizon is proposing would put the plugin code in its own project. Perhaps manila-ui like the tuskar-ui. | 15:23 |
| bswartz | oh this is news to me | 15:23 |
| markstur | just yesterday | 15:23 |
| markstur | At HP we are interested in getting that project started ASAP by taking from our current fork to create a plugin. | 15:23 |
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| markstur | Obviously the goal is to get it in the openstack eco-system with gerrit for team collaboration. | 15:23 |
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| markstur | Hey look I accidentally pinged David | 15:23 |
| gary-smith__ | the plugin model is what horizon is going for on new projects | 15:24 |
| * david-lyle came running | 15:24 | |
| gary-smith__ | (and even old ones) | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #link https://github.com/NetApp/horizon/tree/manila_kilo | 15:24 |
| bswartz | ^ so this is what we have so far | 15:24 |
| markstur | gary-smith__ can get that project started. So we wanted to bring it up here. | 15:24 |
| xyang1 | nice, this will make horizon integration much easier | 15:24 |
| david-lyle | new service additions should target the horizon plugin mechanism, and we'll get that plugin into the openstack namespace | 15:25 |
| bswartz | yes I absolutely support a manila gui proehct that plugs into horizon | 15:25 |
| david-lyle | this will also make sure your development work can progress at the rate you want | 15:25 |
| bswartz | do we call it manila-ui? manila-dashboard? | 15:25 |
| david-lyle | and not suffer on our review queue | 15:25 |
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| markstur | I wanted thrilla-in-manila, but that didn't really make sense. So you guys pick the name. | 15:26 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:26 |
| gary-smith__ | the pattern so far would suggest manila-ui | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: is Horizon plugins remotely available or need to copy-paste files to Horizon dir directly? | 15:26 |
| gary-smith__ | although I like thrilla :-) | 15:26 |
| david-lyle | vponomaryov: remotely available | 15:26 |
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| david-lyle | just need to be installed on the horizon server | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: good to know, thanks | 15:26 |
| bswartz | is this something that will be achievable before Kilo or a plan for Liberty? | 15:27 |
| gary-smith__ | Liberty, definitely | 15:27 |
| david-lyle | one file needs to be linked or copied into the horizon enabled directory so Horizon knows to pick it up | 15:27 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:27 |
| bswartz | so we'll do what we've done before for our Kilo release | 15:27 |
| bswartz | and when liberty starts up we'll get manila-ui started | 15:28 |
| markstur | I was thinking we'd start sooner. | 15:28 |
| markstur | But not sure when it would realistically be ready. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | thanks david-lyle and gary-smith__ | 15:28 |
| gary-smith__ | I hope we can get the ball rolling before liberty | 15:28 |
| markstur | Easy for me to say | 15:28 |
| gary-smith__ | yeah, exactly | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | markstur: there's no harm in starting ASAP, but we need an actual working solution for uses of Kilo, and that's more important | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | s/uses/users/ | 15:29 |
| bswartz | that's why we're going to keep doing what we've done before in in the next 2 months | 15:29 |
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| markstur | RIght. | 15:30 |
| bswartz | which is to maintain our fork of horizon with manila grafted on | 15:30 |
| markstur | Yes we need that until we have something else really ready to use. | 15:30 |
| markstur | Which is I think why Gary said Liberty. | 15:31 |
| gary-smith__ | markstur: +1 | 15:31 |
| bswartz | liberty sounds like the perfect timeframe for this | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | markstur: are you volunteering to own creating the project and getting things started? | 15:31 |
| markstur | Yeah. I'm volunteerying gary-smith__ | 15:32 |
| gary-smith__ | I will volunteer to do that | 15:32 |
| bswartz | okay great | 15:32 |
| bswartz | thanks! | 15:32 |
| bswartz | anything else to discuss about horizon? For kilo or liberty? | 15:32 |
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| markstur | Thanks for tuning in David. It was good to hear your support. | 15:33 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | gary-smith__: one question | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | any other topics of any kind? | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | gary-smith__: do plugins support its own dependencies? | 15:33 |
| gary-smith__ | vponomaryov: I believe so | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: you're thinking about python-manilaclient? | 15:34 |
| gary-smith__ | but david-lyle is the expert on that | 15:34 |
| bswartz | do we have other dependencies? | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | no, for the moment | 15:34 |
| bswartz | k | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | well it sounds like we're done early today | 15:35 |
| bswartz | take back 25 minutes and do some code reviews | 15:35 |
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| david-lyle | your plugin should have that dependency | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I'll be reviewing all afternoon today | 15:35 |
| bswartz | david-lyle: thanks | 15:36 |
| markstur | Are we able to use Availability Zones on shares? | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: that what I was interested in - possibility to setup deps for plugin | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: separately from deps of Horizon | 15:36 |
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| david-lyle | vponomaryov: well it should be an installable python package, using setup.py or requirements.txt to pull in dependencies | 15:37 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I removed target kilo from my BP | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | markstur: ther is no such API, so ... | 15:37 |
| bswartz | ganso_: thanks | 15:37 |
| markstur | vponomaryov, But there probably should be like cinder... eventually... does that sound right? | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: requirements.txt is ok | 15:37 |
| bswartz | markstur: eventually, yes | 15:38 |
| bswartz | it hasn't been a priority yet | 15:38 |
| markstur | bswartz, OK. I was wondering if there was some other trick. | 15:38 |
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| vponomaryov | markstur: manila does not have it right now | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | vponomaryov: so your ui-plugin will own that file and can specify what is needed | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | david-lyle: great, thank you | 15:39 |
| bswartz | alright, thanks everyone | 15:39 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 12 15:39:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-12-15.00.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-12-15.00.txt | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-12-15.00.log.html | 15:39 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 12 16:01:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | hey guys | 16:01 |
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| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | is anyone here? | 16:01 |
| xarses | \o | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:01 |
| brain461 | hello | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | just 4 people | 16:01 |
| agordeev | hi | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | ok let's start | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | if anyone has any announcements, please share them right now | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | before we go through the agenda | 16:02 |
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| daniel3_ | hi | 16:03 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:03 |
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| xarses | merge status? | 16:03 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:03 |
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| kozhukalov | xarses: feature by feature including merge status | 16:04 |
| docaedo | hi | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | ok, looks like no one has any announcements | 16:04 |
| kozhukalov | let's start discussing topics | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Separating MOS from upstream ubuntu (vparakhin) | 16:04 |
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| brain461 | hello | 16:05 |
| brain461 | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148279/35/specs/6.1/separate-mos-from-linux.rst | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | brain461: could you please share the status | 16:05 |
| brain461 | Code is ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161222/ | 16:05 |
| brain461 | We're testing both features (separation + external ubuntu) on a set of cloned jobs in product CI (iso + bvt), there's an iso with latest patches. | 16:05 |
| brain461 | Currently, ddmitriev is working on implementing changes to system tests to consume external repos. | 16:05 |
| brain461 | Bad news: we're blocked by issues in vrouter feature. | 16:05 |
| brain461 | We're expecting to have vrouter fixes on review this evening. | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | vrouter fixes are in master? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: nope | 16:06 |
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| ikalnitsky | they are on review | 16:06 |
| mihgen | how comes you are blocked then? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: default gateway | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | ikalnitsky: please give a link for vrouter | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | currently, we have vrouter gateway on controllers, and that's an issue | 16:07 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163408/ | 16:07 |
| ikalnitsky | here's the fix | 16:07 |
| mihgen | currently we don't have such a thing as vrouter, there is public gateway propagated from UI, is not it? | 16:07 |
| ikalnitsky | nope. | 16:07 |
| mihgen | here we go, so it's in master | 16:08 |
| ikalnitsky | in master, we already have vrouter feature and it works with issues, since it sets default gateway to vip__management, not to br-ex | 16:08 |
| ikalnitsky | on controllers, which is wrong | 16:08 |
| ikalnitsky | controllers MUST have br-ex as default gateway | 16:09 |
| mihgen | yeah I see. We might want to revert it if it blocks from split repo / ubuntu thing | 16:09 |
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| ikalnitsky | we definetely should apply the fix above (which is revert, yeah) | 16:09 |
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| kozhukalov | it is better to fix this than to revert it at all | 16:10 |
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| ikalnitsky | revert is a fix | 16:10 |
| ikalnitsky | it should be so | 16:10 |
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| ikalnitsky | it was wrong that the patch was applied | 16:10 |
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| xarses | ikalnitsky: why must controllers have a IP on br-ex:? | 16:10 |
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| xarses | this is bad from security side | 16:10 |
| xarses | and I intend to have it removed | 16:10 |
| mihgen | xarses: public gateway must be not from management | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | as I undestand it became now | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: true | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | ok folks you better voice sync with xenolog / vrouter lead and make a change.. I really don't want your feature to be blocked | 16:12 |
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| ikalnitsky | mihgen: we already do | 16:12 |
| mihgen | we have to make local mirror script, etc. | 16:12 |
| brain461 | mihgen: yes, I started to work on it | 16:12 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, and what we need to make it fixed? reviewers? another voice call? anything else? | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | ok, let's move on | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Consume external ubuntu mirrors (ikalnitsky) | 16:15 |
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| ikalnitsky | today i managed to deploy cluster with external ubuntu and separate repos. | 16:15 |
| ikalnitsky | obviously, it was required to apply vrouter fixes manually. | 16:15 |
| ikalnitsky | ostf tests were passed. | 16:15 |
| ikalnitsky | i've built an iso with all patches (including vrouter ones) and i want to ask qa to test it. | 16:15 |
| ikalnitsky | so i think we should start merging some fixes one-by-one, in order to do not break master | 16:15 |
| angdraug | can you post a link to the iso? | 16:16 |
| ikalnitsky | though, we don't test inird downloading | 16:16 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: yep, sure | 16:16 |
| ikalnitsky | #link http://jenkins-product.srt.mirantis.net:8080/view/Repo%20Separation/job/6.1.all.clone/30/ | 16:16 |
| mihgen | can you share patch which downloads initrd pls? | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: there couple of them on review | 16:17 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163599 script itself | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | yeah, it really hard to find them right now. | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | here's the link to working etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/consume-external-ubuntu | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161640/ package for this script | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | my iso includes all patches (even inird), so i don't know how it works. just going to figure out it. | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161208/ download task | 16:18 |
| mihgen | thx | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | ikalnitsky: how close we are to merging pre-provision tasks ? | 16:18 |
| ikalnitsky | actually, i was thinking about merging it today.. but it didn't happen :( | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | i've built and iso with these three patches | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | but centos bvt has been failed | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | we have some issues | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | in master | 16:19 |
| ikalnitsky | not in our patches | 16:19 |
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| ikalnitsky | but i want to pass them both bvts | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | but master is green, isn't it? | 16:20 |
| ikalnitsky | nope | 16:20 |
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| ikalnitsky | oh, it's now green. | 16:20 |
| salmon_ | hi | 16:20 |
| ikalnitsky | few hours ago, it wasn't | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | thx ikalnitsky. Any blockers here? | 16:21 |
| mihgen | what is left to be done? | 16:22 |
| kozhukalov | so, we can build another iso with pre-provision tasks and check them again, right? | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | can't we just go shortcut here, take green ISO and inject your changes? | 16:22 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: i don't see any blockers. i think we should test the latest iso and start merging things. | 16:22 |
| mihgen | verifiy if it works, and then merge? | 16:22 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen: we have merging plan which is on this etherpad ^^^ | 16:23 |
| ikalnitsky | kozhukalov: that's right. i'll run it again. | 16:23 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen: sorry, what do you mean? | 16:23 |
| ikalnitsky | first of all, we should merge pre-provision tasks | 16:23 |
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| ikalnitsky | they shouldn't break master | 16:23 |
| ikalnitsky | they will just build provisioning images on master node | 16:24 |
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| ikalnitsky | patches were reviewed and tested manually | 16:24 |
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| ikalnitsky | we need just get bvt passed and merge them | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | ok, i think the details of the merging order is up to us, just need to keep master green | 16:24 |
| mihgen | ok thanks guys | 16:25 |
| bookwar | to get bvt passed we need patches to fuel-qa to be merged as well, don't we? | 16:25 |
| brain461 | sure | 16:25 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:25 |
| ikalnitsky | nope | 16:25 |
| ikalnitsky | not for this patches | 16:25 |
| ikalnitsky | bookwar: ^ | 16:25 |
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| fletcher | any of the bandit peeps around? | 16:26 |
| bookwar | ikalnitsky: ok | 16:26 |
| mihgen | bookwar: hi, do we have mirrors of ubuntu prepared in our infra in every location? | 16:26 |
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| bookwar | mihgen: yes, upstream mirrors are ready | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | cool | 16:26 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic IBP (agordeev) | 16:27 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:27 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: hi | 16:27 |
| agordeev | merge status of blueprints: | 16:27 |
| agordeev | 1 was landed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-build-ubuntu-images and the remaining 2 was not. | 16:27 |
| agordeev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-reconnect : 1 patch is waiting to be reviewed and merged https://review.openstack.org/157090 | 16:27 |
| agordeev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ibp-image-checksums : 2 patches are waiting to be reviewed and merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161318/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161759/ | 16:27 |
| agordeev | I'll ask for getting FFE for 1d for them right after the meeting ends | 16:28 |
| agordeev | bugs: | 16:28 |
| agordeev | 1 critical was filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1428759 looks like it was just h/w issue | 16:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1428759 in Fuel for OpenStack "[IBP] degraded RAID prevents operating system from boot" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel provisioning team (fuel-provisioning) | 16:28 |
| agordeev | backports to 6.0: | 16:28 |
| agordeev | I'm insisting on backporting of ibp-reconnect. Even IBP for 6.0 is in experimental status. Additionaly it closes on of customer-found bugs | 16:28 |
| agordeev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161721/ | 16:28 |
| agordeev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161722/ | 16:28 |
| agordeev | other: | 16:28 |
| agordeev | it's time to start re-implementing ibp-build-ubuntu-images as a pure python tool. | 16:28 |
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| kozhukalov | agordeev: thanks and yet another issue about ibp | 16:29 |
| mihgen | thanks agordeev. anything prevents us from merging reconnects to master now? | 16:30 |
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| kozhukalov | agordeev: provision progress bar does not work and taking into account that we are going to spend ~10mins building images just before starting provisioning | 16:30 |
| agordeev | mihgen: i think that nothing is blocking it. Just needs to be reviewed and merged. | 16:30 |
| mihgen | about backport to stable/6.0: I think we need to take a closer look on it. I see dependency introduced (urllib3), so I'm trying to understand how risky it can be | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | we definitely need progress bar to be working | 16:31 |
| mihgen | we generally don't backport such things of course, I'm just trying to see if we can make exception here | 16:31 |
| mihgen | and if we really need to | 16:31 |
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| kozhukalov | guys, please take part in reviewing IBP patches if you have some time | 16:32 |
| kozhukalov | patches are pretty small | 16:32 |
| agordeev | mihgen: that dependecy is already installed into bootstrap image. As far as netchecker tool requires it. | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | we'd really appreciate this if you had a chance to take a look at them | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | ok, if there are no other q, moving on then | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Plugins (evgeniyl) | 16:34 |
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| evgeniyl___ | Hi guys. | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | evgeniyl___: hi | 16:34 |
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| evgeniyl___ | All plugins related features are merged, currently we are working on the docs. | 16:34 |
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| evgeniyl___ | Today we’ve done plugins migration guide. | 16:35 |
| evgeniyl___ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/Plugins#How_to_migrate_plugins_from_1.0.0_to_2.0.0_package_version | 16:35 |
| evgeniyl___ | Also I’ve just had a discussion with guys who develop melanox plugin, they really need plugable bootstrap image, we’ve figured out a solution, I’m not sure if it will be able to implemented it in the current release. | 16:35 |
| mihgen | Q: about an issue with 2+ plugins, what is the order nailgun chooses to install those? | 16:36 |
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| evgeniyl___ | Another story is ability to define plugins execution order, I need approve to start working on it, if we are going to do it as a feature freeze exception. | 16:36 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl___: yep, this is my question | 16:36 |
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| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: are you asking about execution order? Afaik currently it depends on the name. | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | evgeniyl___: name of what? | 16:37 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: of plugin | 16:37 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: we don't have proper mechanism to define plugins execution order. | 16:37 |
| mihgen | so there is a workaround, right ;) | 16:37 |
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| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: Oh, I don't think that we should call it a workaround. | 16:38 |
| mihgen | where is the issue comes from? | 16:38 |
| mihgen | contrail + zabbix = wrong order? | 16:38 |
| mihgen | according to you, zabbix would be installed after contrail, so it should be just fine | 16:39 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: it's not general solution | 16:39 |
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| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: if we want to solve specific case, yes we can use workaround | 16:39 |
| mihgen | I get that. So what's your estimate and approach to possibly resolve it in 6.1. ? | 16:39 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: yeah, we should check it, but it should work this way | 16:39 |
| angdraug | solving it would require metadata format change (exec priority field) | 16:40 |
| angdraug | wouldn't it be better to make such change early rather than later worry about backwards compatibility? | 16:40 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: one week including spec, fpb fixes, nailgun fixes, and merging process with all of the reviews. | 16:40 |
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| mihgen | this is pretty serious gap, actually, frankly speaking… | 16:41 |
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| mihgen | if we don't want people to name their roles like "A_Zabbix", "B_Contrail", etc., we need to fix it.. | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | evgeniyl___: if you have managed to find a solution on pluggable bootstrap, can you share you opinion about this? how is it going to look like? | 16:42 |
| evgeniyl___ | It's my current velocity, if we take into account that the most of the day I spend on side tasks, reviewes, docs, meetings | 16:42 |
| angdraug | are you the only one who can do this? | 16:43 |
| angdraug | bus factor alert... | 16:43 |
| evgeniyl___ | kozhukalov: plugins can share some hooks, and when node is booted, it can iterate through plugins hooks and execute them. In one of the hook guys from mellanox can add kernel module loading. | 16:43 |
| evgeniyl___ | angdraug: I'm not the only person who can do that | 16:43 |
| evgeniyl___ | agordeev: for example Vladimir Sharshov in the current release implemented reboot tasks from end to end. | 16:44 |
| xarses | evgeniyl___: mihgen https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1428427 | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1428427 in Fuel for OpenStack "Priority of plugins execution can't be defined" [Medium,Invalid] - Assigned to Fuel Python Team (fuel-python) | 16:44 |
| mihgen | thanks evgeniyl___. if you are available after this meeting, I'd like to do a short call, together with dpyzhov_ | 16:44 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: np | 16:45 |
| dpyzhov_ | ok | 16:45 |
| xarses | it was marked invalid | 16:45 |
| evgeniyl___ | xarses: yes, because it's not a bug. | 16:45 |
| xarses | sort of | 16:45 |
| evgeniyl___ | xarses: it's a feature request | 16:45 |
| xarses | it's a defect | 16:45 |
| evgeniyl___ | xarses: it's known constraint | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | a flaw | 16:45 |
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| kozhukalov | evgeniyl___: thanks a lot | 16:46 |
| xarses | kozhukalov: same meaning effectively | 16:46 |
| kozhukalov | moving on to open discussion | 16:46 |
| kozhukalov | xarses: sure | 16:46 |
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| kozhukalov | xarses: i just started to think we are going to list synonyms to the word bug ) | 16:47 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Open discussion | 16:47 |
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| salmon_ | I have something | 16:47 |
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| salmon_ | Small update for 200 nodes bp | 16:47 |
| salmon_ | there are two patches not merged yet. | 16:47 |
| salmon_ | One is about allowing to fail nodes during provision. I'm refactoring it after evgeniyl___ comments. | 16:47 |
| salmon_ | Second one is network verification. There is some dissagreement about backward compatibility https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138760/6 :( I think that we should just add warrning that it's not backward compatible and desribe in docs what and how to upgrade to fix it. | 16:47 |
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| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: I agree to merge it, but lets create a bug, and start the discussion in ML to solve the problem, that we can break it in the future releases | 16:48 |
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| agordeev | salmon_: just curious to know, have your guys tried 200 nodes against IBP ? | 16:49 |
| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: also "Roman said that backward compatibility is not a issue for him" doesn't look like a valid argument | 16:49 |
| xarses | why cant we fix it in a backward way? | 16:49 |
| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: user care about it | 16:49 |
| salmon_ | agordeev: no, only on 100 | 16:49 |
| mihgen | salmon_: I'm curios if we can make it backward compatible by 'small blood' ? | 16:49 |
| salmon_ | evgeniyl___: well, the qustion is if user will ever notice it | 16:49 |
| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: and I didn't say that I don't want to merge it just because, I provided a technical solution how to solve the problem | 16:50 |
| salmon_ | evgeniyl___: yeah, this is why I gave a link to patch | 16:50 |
| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: I think user can easily notice that network checker is broken for old releases | 16:50 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: if user updates some packeges it will work | 16:50 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: but he should manually get required packages | 16:51 |
| salmon_ | yup :/ | 16:51 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: or we should backport it to all previous releases | 16:51 |
| mihgen | folks, technically we can make everything backward compatible. But if it takes from us SO many resources to get done, I'm inclined to think that we should just document it / come up with any other workaround | 16:51 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: which is not the case I think, because it brakes the previous interface, and it doesn't look like a good candidate for backport | 16:51 |
| mihgen | so here, if it's easy to make backward compatible, why not to do so? | 16:52 |
| evgeniyl___ | mihgen: guys, we implement backward compatibility on almost every layer now, I don't see problems to add the same stuff into MCagents. | 16:52 |
| salmon_ | it takes some time and make everything look uglier. Updating package is simpler for me :) | 16:52 |
| salmon_ | I changed mcollective-agent so user has to updata package on each node | 16:53 |
| mihgen | frankly UX doesn't look like as great one. Let's say you had Fuel master with N nodes in bootstrap | 16:53 |
| mihgen | then upgraded fuel master, and added more bootstraps | 16:54 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: if you have bootsrap nodes, just reboot them | 16:54 |
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| mihgen | and now your net-verify fails for some of the nodes, and you are lost, as you get unclear error messages | 16:54 |
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| salmon_ | evgeniyl___: can we get agent version? If yes it's easy to make it bacward compatible | 16:55 |
| kozhukalov | i think salmon_ is right, if you have bootstrap nodes, just reboot them. why can't we reboot those bootstrap nodes just after upgrade? | 16:55 |
| salmon_ | good idea | 16:56 |
| salmon_ | ot just add a notice that is good idea to reboot | 16:56 |
| salmon_ | *or | 16:56 |
| mihgen | problem is that no one reads all those long release notes. . | 16:56 |
| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: I don't know, we should check it and look at the api. But anyway as I said, there is another workaround, just implement "version" method and if it's not there, it means that it's old version. | 16:57 |
| xarses | so you plan on making a feature to reboot un-used discovered nodes when we update the master, or the base image? | 16:57 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: it can be just above error message after faile verification | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | 3 minutes | 16:57 |
| mihgen | salmon_: really if it's easy to make, we need backward compatibility layers anyway, please consider it | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | if you see it takes too long .. then just release notes .. | 16:58 |
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| salmon_ | ok, I will start discussion on ML | 16:58 |
| mihgen | thx | 16:58 |
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| evgeniyl___ | salmon_: thanks | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | ok, guys, thanx everyone for attending | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | time to end | 16:58 |
| salmon_ | thx | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 12 16:59:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-12-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-12-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-12-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| tmcpeak | \o\ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | oh hai | 17:02 |
| bpb | o/ | 17:02 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | So is everyone expecting an OSSG meeting now? | 17:02 |
| elmiko | yo/ | 17:02 |
| shelleea007 | o/ | 17:02 |
| sweston | o/ | 17:03 |
| ljfisher | o/ | 17:03 |
| gmurphy | o/ | 17:03 |
| chair6 | (-o-) | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Excellent. I thought I’d had a calendar fail. | 17:03 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: i think yes =) | 17:03 |
| tkelsey | seems so | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | yep, but I'm using the same calendar invite you are | 17:03 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 12 17:03:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:03 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:03 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 17:03 |
| bdpayne | o/ | 17:03 |
| ljfisher | o/ | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Hey everyone, full house today! | 17:03 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:03 |
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| nkinder | hey all | 17:03 |
| dwyde | o/ | 17:03 |
| bknudson | hi | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | glad to see the prodigal nkinder | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | woot! hey nkinder ! | 17:04 |
| d-9 | hey guys | 17:04 |
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| ukbelch | hullo! | 17:05 |
| elmiko | serious full house today =) | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | ok agenda for today, I actually don’t have much, lots of things that were in flight are still erm, flying. | 17:05 |
| d-9 | nkinder hope youre feeling better | 17:05 |
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| nkinder | 2 weeks in a row is a record for me this year I think! | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: nkinder: bdpayne any updates? | 17:05 |
| nkinder | d-9: thx | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | small Bandit update | 17:05 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: nothing big. We can talk about the OSSN template and "affected software/services" | 17:05 |
| bdpayne | I have a brief book update | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | ok cool, anything else? | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | tkelsey: How’s anchor coming along? | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | yeah, it going well :) 87% coverage or there about | 17:06 |
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| tkelsey | still pushing tests | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Jolly good, thanks for getting the functional tests in too! | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Nice to know it actually works, as well as passing unit tests :P | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | ah yes, good to have those | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | ok, lets talk about the book before what I suspect will be a longer OSSN discussion | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | #topic security guide | 17:08 |
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| bdpayne | so a few updates | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | we are working towards a book release that is aligned with the release coming out next fall | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | whatever that is, L? | 17:08 |
| * bdpayne loses track | 17:08 | |
| sicarie | Liberty | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | thanks ;-) | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | one of the big things we want there is to fill out the content specific to openstack core services such as Nova, Cinder, Keystone, etc | 17:09 |
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| bdpayne | and one of the big things we want within _that_ is to have good recommendations around the policy.json files | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | so... if you have knowledge and are able to help with such things | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | we'd love some assistance | 17:10 |
| bdpayne | :-) | 17:10 |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:10 |
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| bdpayne | to get involved, just ping me here in IRC, email me, or similar | 17:10 |
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| bdpayne | that's about all that I have | 17:10 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: I can lend some assistance around policy.json | 17:10 |
| bdpayne | nkinder that would be great, thanks | 17:10 |
| bdpayne | I'll ping you :-) | 17:10 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: sounds good | 17:11 |
| bknudson | I've got the policy.json mapping doc'ed for keystone. | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: There’s (likely) going to be a talk on that at the summit :) | 17:11 |
| bknudson | not sure if we want that for every service. | 17:11 |
| bdpayne | yes, I was thinking I'd ping the author of that talk hyakuhei | 17:11 |
| nkinder | bknudson: yeah, that is a nice change | 17:11 |
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| bdpayne | bknudson you have a pointer to that? just curious... | 17:11 |
| bknudson | might be better to have it in the docs rather than in policy.json. | 17:11 |
| bdpayne | ... curious what it looks like | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Sweet. Ok lets talk about OSSN format? | 17:12 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155919/ | 17:12 |
| bknudson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155919/ | 17:12 |
| bdpayne | thatnks, take it away OSSN | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:12 |
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| bknudson | nkinder: still fast. | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: wwantto introduce it? | 17:12 |
| nkinder | I saw some of the discussion hyakuhei was havint with tmcpeak on the "affected services" format in OSSNs | 17:13 |
| nkinder | Typically, we go for a comma separated list like "nova, glance" | 17:13 |
| nkinder | we also have versions in there - "icehouse, juno" | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | link in question: https://review.openstack.org/163041 | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://review.openstack.org/163041 | 17:13 |
| nkinder | the idea is that a simple format can be parsed | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | So you can search for (with some tool that doesn’t exist) all OSSNs affecting “Keystone” for example | 17:14 |
| nkinder | ...hence a tool could be written to check to see if an OSSN applies to a deployment | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | exactly | 17:14 |
| nkinder | Yep | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Now at the moment, we also basically present OSSNs to the world in that same format | 17:14 |
| nkinder | So we also have strange cases like the FREAK or POODLE OSSNs... | 17:14 |
| * hyakuhei shuts up. Please continue nkinder | 17:15 | |
| nkinder | For these, we basically say "Affects all the things" | 17:15 |
| nkinder | which is accurate | 17:15 |
| nkinder | basically, these issues don't fit the mold, as they affect databases, message brokers, crypto libraries, etc. | 17:15 |
| nkinder | Here's my opinion on it... | 17:16 |
| nkinder | Today's OSSN format is really intended to be consumed by humans | 17:16 |
| nkinder | ...not tools | 17:16 |
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| nkinder | We want to get to a parseable format where tools make sense, but we're not there. | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | to get that I think we'd want something more like tags | 17:17 |
| nkinder | I think having a structured format alongside of the "human" format is where we need to end up | 17:17 |
| gmurphy | you could maybe take a similar approach to what the vmt are doing with ossa | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | So my question is do we want to continue with a do everything format. Or write something more ‘meta’ that gets parsed into various outputs | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | gmurphy: I was hoping you’d chime in | 17:17 |
| nkinder | gmurphy: yeah, I looked at some formats | 17:17 |
| gmurphy | we have the advisory content in yaml (parsable) and then render that to .rst | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | How does the VMT do it | 17:17 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: transformation would be ideal | 17:17 |
| nkinder | one master format, spit out all of the other ones we want | 17:17 |
| d-9 | +1 | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: I think I agree, though it does raise the bar for entry a little | 17:17 |
| gmurphy | just a sphinx plugin i wrote | 17:17 |
| gmurphy | it is very low tech but does the job | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | gmurphy: got any links we could look at (git etc)? | 17:18 |
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| gmurphy | think we just populate a jinja template using values from the yaml file | 17:18 |
| gmurphy | yeah | 17:18 |
| gmurphy | one sec | 17:18 |
| gmurphy | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ossa/tree/ | 17:18 |
| gmurphy | is the top level project | 17:18 |
| nkinder | yeah, that looks nice | 17:19 |
| gmurphy | and this is the crappy plugin - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ossa/tree/doc/source/_exts/vmt.py | 17:19 |
| gmurphy | which basically fills in this template http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ossa/tree/doc/source/_exts/rst.jinja | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | That’s a lot more readable than I thought it would be (the yaml) | 17:19 |
| elmiko | yaml seems nice for the root format | 17:20 |
| gmurphy | yeah. eventually i want to get the ossa data version information more accurate | 17:20 |
| nkinder | So I can get behind something basic like this | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | do you have a gates to test the yaml isn’t horribly broken etc? | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: see how much better yaml is than JSON? :P | 17:20 |
| gmurphy | so i can run a db query etc | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: quite or we put you back in the corner. | 17:20 |
| nkinder | I was looking at things like CVRF last year... | 17:20 |
| d-9 | hyakuhei still bitter about yaml.. | 17:20 |
| nkinder | which is a nice standard, but probably more heavyweight than we need | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:20 |
| nkinder | ...though we can always transform yaml to CVRF if there is a need in the future | 17:20 |
| gmurphy | yeah exactly | 17:21 |
| nkinder | I think hyakuhei comment about a low bar is important | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | So you take yaml and munge it into jinja | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | at which point it can become whatever you want? | 17:21 |
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| gmurphy | yeah. | 17:21 |
| gmurphy | basically | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: yeah, but at least with a format like yaml we could have the gate do more automated checks than it does today possibly ? | 17:22 |
| nkinder | yeah, I think so | 17:22 |
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| hyakuhei | and also little trip hazards like trailing whitespace and line length go away | 17:22 |
| nkinder | do we want to publish the yaml somewhere too (besides git)? | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | There’d be a body of work to convert (manually or by magic) existing OSSN into whatever the new format is too | 17:23 |
| gmurphy | for ossa ? | 17:23 |
| nkinder | That way a tool can be used to scan the yaml from a known location | 17:23 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I think that would be manual... | 17:24 |
| gmurphy | yeah security.openstack.org = output of that project | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: +1 | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | only a few hours work split between a couple of us | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | could probably get at least 80% of the work done with a little magic | 17:24 |
| nkinder | yeah, shouldn't be too bad with 45 notes | 17:24 |
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| nkinder | ok, well POC of yaml and a conversion to something close to what we publish today is the first step | 17:25 |
| nkinder | I can work with gmurphy on that | 17:25 |
| nkinder | steal whatever I can, then tweak it :) | 17:25 |
| gmurphy | yep. go for it. | 17:26 |
| gmurphy | ping me if you have any problems. | 17:26 |
| nkinder | gmurphy: will do | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: are you going to put the yaml poc in git? Easiest place to review/comment I imagine | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | I mean security-doc on git, obviously | 17:27 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: yes, yaml in git | 17:27 |
| nkinder | it will be the "source" format | 17:28 |
| nkinder | we will need to tweak the gate jobs too | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | This is quite exciting :) | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else on OSSN today? | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | I copied bdpayne's note, it's all his fault | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:29 |
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| nkinder | Nothing notable. There's stuff in the queue, some assigned (I think everyone who owns something is aware that it needs to be done) | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Great! Yeah I’ve got one that I hope to write tomorrow | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | (not really sure where the week went) | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: you know what I'm going to ask, don't you? | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | The developer guidelines | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | yep :) | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | where are we going to put them, what's the next step | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah they’re waiting on the discussions I’m having about making the OSSG OpenStack proper | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | As right now we don’t have a sensible place to publish them other than the wiki | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | well wiki could be good | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | We _could_ put them there for now | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | lots of OpenStack guidance goes there | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah and lots of stuff gets lost in the noise | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | true | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | If you want to create a wiki page under security and move them over I’m happy with that | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | what's the end game? | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Though ideally I want them nicely formatted and linked somewhere off security.openstack.org | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | They look so pretty in GH Markdown :( | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | that sounds worthwhile, so that's blocked on your discussion about integrating OSSG as a proper group? | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | It would complicate things unduly to try to push stuff there right now | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | So wiki is fine | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | ok, should we publish them as is or do we need to do more editing? | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | some of them aren't consistent with the others | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | for example XSS | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | There’s some work required on some. I don’t have the time to do that this week. | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | like this: https://github.com/openstack-security/Developer-Guidance/blob/master/xss.md | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | sicarie: You’re a doc ninja, do you have any cycles next week to look at the content? | 17:35 |
| sicarie | sure | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah the XSS one isn’t great I’ll see if ukbelch can re-write it to be more inline with the others | 17:35 |
| ukbelch | sure | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | whoever did this: https://github.com/openstack-security/Developer-Guidance/blob/master/todo.md thank you | 17:36 |
| d-9 | no worries | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | Bandit version pin imminent! code freeze is tomorrow EOD | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | oooh | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | then Monday I'm going to try really really hard to break it | 17:37 |
| tkelsey | good stuff tmcpeak | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | then version pin Monday by EOD | 17:37 |
| * bknudson needs to get keystone change ready. | 17:37 | |
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| tmcpeak | if anybody else can carve out time to try to break Bandit Monday, that would be awesome | 17:38 |
| gmurphy | tmcpeak: have you run it over all the things in openstack/*? | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: yep, mostly | 17:39 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm probably missing some of the oslos, and my versions might be a bit old, but yeah, I've run against most projects | 17:39 |
| gmurphy | ok. cool. | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | that's probably it for Bandit this week | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | anything else guys? | 17:42 |
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| gmurphy | well at some stage i want to revist the ossa metrics stuff. | 17:43 |
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| hyakuhei | gmurphy: yeah that’s the one thing we didn’t manage at the mid-cycle | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | Maybe we can try to get a design session on it | 17:44 |
| gmurphy | well me and jamie did a few -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-metrics | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | So we’re still in tuning what was your feel for it at the moment | 17:44 |
| gmurphy | we both got pretty similar answers for some things | 17:45 |
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| gmurphy | a couple were ambiguous / it depends type things | 17:45 |
| gmurphy | but with the ossa data in a git repo | 17:45 |
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| hyakuhei | That looks pretty good actually | 17:45 |
| gmurphy | we could submit scores and nit the differences in rewiew | 17:46 |
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| bknudson | the IBM x-force team also has cvss scores for the vulnerabilities. | 17:46 |
| gmurphy | cool. would be interesting to pull that info in too. | 17:46 |
| gmurphy | i guess what i would ultimately like to get to is - is the proposed standard more accurate than cvss etc | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | gmurphy: I like that idea | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | well CVSSv2 is completely inappropriate for cloud applications | 17:47 |
| gmurphy | and we have the cvss info from red hat.. i'll pull in the xforce stuff too one rainy day.. | 17:48 |
| gmurphy | yeah. i agree. | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | hypervisor breakouts rank ~5 I think | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | “local privesc” | 17:48 |
| gmurphy | but hopefully we could demonstrate that with pretty graphs :-) | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok so actions regardinging metrics? | 17:48 |
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| gmurphy | well if anybody else wants to jump on that etherpad and have a go at rating those vulns that would be good | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | cool, I'll have a stab at it | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: sicarie - either of you have time? | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | excellent | 17:49 |
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| gmurphy | otherwise i will try to build a bigger sample base | 17:49 |
| gmurphy | and compare against cvss | 17:49 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei I could probably take a look next week | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | That’d be great! | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | ok I think that’s a wrap, any last minute stuff? | 17:50 |
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| hyakuhei | Cool, thanks everyone! | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 12 17:51:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-12-17.03.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-12-17.03.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-12-17.03.log.html | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | later! | 17:51 |
| tkelsey | good stuff, thanks all, thanks hyakuhei | 17:51 |
| nkinder | thanks all! | 17:51 |
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| sweston | thanks | 17:51 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 12 19:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #RollCall | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:00 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
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| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 19:01 |
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| sriram | o/ | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok this should be a real quick meeting this week | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Weeks Action Items | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-05-19.00.html | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | No Action Items from last week | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Kilo3 Update | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo3 Update (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:02 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-3 | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | first one is mine | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz: make api tests run at the gate | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | yeh i havent had time to work on this one | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | =/ | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/vanity-ssl | 19:03 |
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| tonytan4ever | This one I would say slow progress, but I am deemed to make it quicker. | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | i'll leave it in started state | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | OKay | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | related to this is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/shared-ssl | 19:05 |
| tonytan4ever | Shared SSL is under review. | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | it really covers all three types though | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | i tested the shared domain feature and appears to work | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | =) | 19:05 |
| obulpathi | yay! | 19:06 |
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| tonytan4ever | I suggest we make a separate bp for san though. | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | Since we already have vanity one. | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | ya i agree | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | can you go ahead and make it | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | Sure. | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | thanks | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | any update on this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | doesnt look like it | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Bugs | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | anyone have bugs they want to discuss> | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | Need a review for this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162692/ | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: tonytan4ever please go review =) | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | and this bug marked critical is done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1427841 | 19:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1427841 in Poppy "Domains list is not updated in Storage (Cassandra) while doing PATCH operation " [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi) | 19:09 |
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| obulpathi | thank you amitgandhinz :) | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | is that one merged? | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161419/ | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | i guess so - someone didnt reference the bug =P | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | yes, that me | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | I forgot to reference the bug | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok upodated | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | any other bugs | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | thanks to tonytan4ever, this one is ready to be merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162692/ | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | merged | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | thank you :D | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:16 |
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| amitgandhinz | any thing anyone wants to discuss? | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | nothing from me | 19:17 |
| tonytan4ever | I am good. | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone. short meeting =) | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 Sync and error handling (Task Flow) - revisited (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 19:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 12 19:17:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-12-19.00.html | 19:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-12-19.00.txt | 19:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-12-19.00.log.html | 19:17 |
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