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The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 2015-02-11T14:01:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 2015-02-11T14:01:22 *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' 2015-02-11T14:01:28 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda 2015-02-11T14:01:41 *** raul__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:01:50 #topic roll call 2015-02-11T14:01:51 *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:01:55 hello 2015-02-11T14:01:57 *** mattgriffin has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:02:02 \p> 2015-02-11T14:02:04 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:07 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:07 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:08 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:22 *** cloudon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:02:22 Hello 2015-02-11T14:02:33 hi :) 2015-02-11T14:02:36 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:53 *** ralfT has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:02:56 hi 2015-02-11T14:02:59 *** sergef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:03:07 #topic action items from last week 2015-02-11T14:03:08 *** openstack changes topic to "action items from last week (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:03:15 i dont see ijw yet so will skip his 2015-02-11T14:03:25 #info mkoderer was to define scope of OpenStack HA use case clearly 2015-02-11T14:03:30 hi 2015-02-11T14:03:45 o/ 2015-02-11T14:03:55 #info sgordon was to request git repo via infra 2015-02-11T14:03:55 hi 2015-02-11T14:04:04 #info sgordon to request git repo via infra 2015-02-11T14:04:05 so 2015-02-11T14:04:10 so is it up? 2015-02-11T14:04:13 i haven't requested a git repo yet 2015-02-11T14:04:26 as mkoderer pointed out we haven't actually had any feedback on the original test review 2015-02-11T14:04:43 other than the thread on operators list that went well off topic 2015-02-11T14:04:45 o/ 2015-02-11T14:04:46 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152940/1 2015-02-11T14:05:11 i did add some info to the wiki 2015-02-11T14:05:14 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases#Reviewing_Use_Cases 2015-02-11T14:05:41 If it helps, I'm just starting to review the SBC use case now... 2015-02-11T14:05:47 it does! 2015-02-11T14:05:53 :) 2015-02-11T14:06:09 *** ljfisher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:06:28 *** marrusl has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:06:29 i think going down that path makes sense, but we do need people to try it out and see if it makes sense for them too 2015-02-11T14:06:29 hi 2015-02-11T14:06:35 (adding comments etc. directly in gerrit) 2015-02-11T14:06:39 *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:06:42 *** juzuluag has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:07:18 *** jungleboyj has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:07:23 i have a question, are we trying to move ahead with SBC exclusively for now? 2015-02-11T14:07:54 we're using it to trial the mechanism for reviewing 2015-02-11T14:08:02 if that is successful i will import the others too 2015-02-11T14:08:21 ok 2015-02-11T14:08:33 implementation??? 2015-02-11T14:08:46 basically i want to make sure creating launchpad accounts and reviewing using gerrit isn't too hard for anyone 2015-02-11T14:08:59 implementation comes afterwards, we cant implement if we dont agree on the use case 2015-02-11T14:09:07 and the requirements derived from it 2015-02-11T14:09:09 ok 2015-02-11T14:09:55 i assume we will be focussing on single site first. correct me if i am wrong 2015-02-11T14:09:57 vks: the use cases are our way of getting input on requirements from non-developers 2015-02-11T14:09:59 *** mwagner_lap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:10:06 vks, yes that's correct 2015-02-11T14:10:15 then we can do gap analysis on them and provide useful blueprints for implementation 2015-02-11T14:10:19 aveiga, thats correct 2015-02-11T14:10:59 *** PeterSchwaller has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:11:30 so that i have names against the action item 2015-02-11T14:11:43 who else is will to try add some comments to the SBC review this week to prove out the mechanism? 2015-02-11T14:11:53 i have myself and adrian-hoban as lucky volunteers so far 2015-02-11T14:12:01 I'll give it a shot too 2015-02-11T14:12:17 *** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:12:30 i will as well 2015-02-11T14:12:44 *** pkoniszewski has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:12:54 well i will ask some questions to u guys ;) 2015-02-11T14:13:17 *** adrian-hoban_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:13:18 #action sgordon, adrian-hoban, cloudon, ian_ott, vks to review SBC use case and leave comments in Gerrit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152940/1 2015-02-11T14:13:27 vks, that's fine - and really the idea :) 2015-02-11T14:13:27 *** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:13:53 *** dave-mccowan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:14:05 so there were a few other discussion items i wanted to get to 2015-02-11T14:14:10 *** adrian-hoban has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:14:23 adrian-hoban, pczesno i believe these are yours - particularly that Nova FFE? 2015-02-11T14:14:35 *** tdruiva has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:14:39 #topic Nova FFE request for libvirt vhostuser 2015-02-11T14:14:41 *** openstack changes topic to "Nova FFE request for libvirt vhostuser (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:14:56 sgordon: yes, we would like to ask for support 2015-02-11T14:15:34 so what is unclear to me at the moment, is if *any* nova FFEs will be granted 2015-02-11T14:15:35 sgordon: the vhostuser support was on the table since juno 2015-02-11T14:15:42 for things that aren't on the nova priorities list 2015-02-11T14:15:54 *** nplanel has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:16:06 sgordon: yes that remains to be seen 2015-02-11T14:16:06 the feeling at the midcycle seemed to be a clear no 2015-02-11T14:16:13 *** sean-k-mooney has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:16:18 but there are sponsors etc. signing up to things on the M/L 2015-02-11T14:16:52 currently we have nonw 2015-02-11T14:16:54 none 2015-02-11T14:17:11 *** sergef has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:17:12 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056312.html 2015-02-11T14:17:27 #info Nova vhostuser FFE request requires support 2015-02-11T14:17:46 ok 2015-02-11T14:17:50 thanks 2015-02-11T14:17:53 so 2015-02-11T14:18:02 not directly related, but since you and adrian-hoban_ are here 2015-02-11T14:18:09 *** marcusvrn has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:18:10 i got asked about sriov ci yesterday 2015-02-11T14:18:15 :-) 2015-02-11T14:18:16 do you happen to know current status? 2015-02-11T14:18:26 Just posted an update to the mailing list 2015-02-11T14:18:28 #topic sr-iov ci 2015-02-11T14:18:30 *** openstack changes topic to "sr-iov ci (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:18:34 *** jckasper_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:18:52 *** dave-mccowan has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:18:56 Mail subject was: "Testing NUMA, CPU pinning and large pages" 2015-02-11T14:19:13 ah yes 2015-02-11T14:19:29 thanks for that 2015-02-11T14:19:33 np 2015-02-11T14:19:41 i think the other concern was simply that someone be reporting into the nova meetings 2015-02-11T14:19:52 i attend them most weeks if you need a relay 2015-02-11T14:19:55 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056583.html 2015-02-11T14:19:59 but ideally it would be someone actually running it 2015-02-11T14:20:10 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056583.html 2015-02-11T14:20:26 *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:20:26 We'll have a guy at it next week (Ireland friendly time) 2015-02-11T14:20:57 cool 2015-02-11T14:21:00 thanks for that 2015-02-11T14:21:09 Look out for "wznoinsk" on the chat... 2015-02-11T14:21:25 #info Adrian provided SR-IOV/NFV CI update to M/L and will have someone attending Nova meeting next week. 2015-02-11T14:21:38 ok 2015-02-11T14:22:04 i did not have anything else for this week, if we get some input on that review then hopefully we can go ahead and create a repo 2015-02-11T14:22:09 #topic repo naming 2015-02-11T14:22:09 *** openstack changes topic to "repo naming (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:22:18 i was going to suggest the super original telcowg-usecases 2015-02-11T14:22:21 Before we move past the CI for NFV.... 2015-02-11T14:22:26 *** jckasper has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:22:37 Was going to ask for some feedback on our coverage from this team 2015-02-11T14:23:11 Across our NFV CIs we plan on covering PCIe + SR-IOV + NUMA (CPU & I/O) + CPU Pinning + Huge Pages + networking-ovs-dpdk (mech driver) 2015-02-11T14:23:27 Any gaps in that list for Kilo? 2015-02-11T14:23:48 I have a question there 2015-02-11T14:23:51 sure 2015-02-11T14:23:53 #undo 2015-02-11T14:23:54 Removing item from minutes: 2015-02-11T14:23:56 how far out is port security? 2015-02-11T14:23:59 large pages? 2015-02-11T14:24:07 sorry, strike that 2015-02-11T14:24:09 *** alopezg has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:24:17 adrian-hoban_, that is good to my understanding 2015-02-11T14:24:49 *** mestery has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:24:51 aveiga, you mean the ml2 port security extensions tuff? 2015-02-11T14:24:59 sgordon: yes 2015-02-11T14:25:00 *** mestery has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:25:18 so iirc that was what ijw had said he was going to check in on 2015-02-11T14:25:19 sgordon: Thanks 2015-02-11T14:25:19 *** radez is now known as radez_g0n3 2015-02-11T14:25:23 considering a lot of the devices that can do SR-IOV also support some type of OVS model on the card to handle things like L2 mappings 2015-02-11T14:25:27 I was? 2015-02-11T14:25:30 it would be nice to see if they can work together 2015-02-11T14:25:32 My ears are burning 2015-02-11T14:25:41 adrian-hoban_, so all the listed ones got implemented 2015-02-11T14:25:42 ? 2015-02-11T14:25:48 yeah you made the mistake of volunteering yourself last week 2015-02-11T14:25:49 how far out is port security? 2015-02-11T14:25:49 large pages? 2015-02-11T14:25:51 whoops 2015-02-11T14:25:59 ijw_ checking with Sweta if any blocking issues on ML2 port security 2015-02-11T14:25:59 Let me check my email, I sent one in the meeting and forget the answer 2015-02-11T14:26:47 OK - apparently I didn't hit send, sorry. Let me actually check the BP right now 2015-02-11T14:27:03 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ml2-ovs-portsecurity,n,z 2015-02-11T14:27:46 vks: Some good progress with NUMA (CPU & I/O), CPU pinning, huge pages all part of kilo-2. Not much movement on SR-IOV. The new mech driver for ovs-dpdk-netdev is making good progress too. 2015-02-11T14:27:48 sgordon: thanks 2015-02-11T14:28:39 np 2015-02-11T14:29:09 couple more comments since last week 2015-02-11T14:29:20 no changes to the patch itself tho 2015-02-11T14:30:36 *** shwetaap has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:30:48 ok 2015-02-11T14:30:52 *** prmtl has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:30:58 #topic repo naming 2015-02-11T14:30:59 *** openstack changes topic to "repo naming (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:31:07 i was going to suggest the super original telcowg-usecases 2015-02-11T14:31:10 any objections? 2015-02-11T14:31:37 *** _nadya_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:32:06 sgordon: that's fine 2015-02-11T14:32:13 sgordon, can we have meeting at this time every week?? 2015-02-11T14:32:24 if no one has problem 2015-02-11T14:32:26 ijw might kill me 2015-02-11T14:32:37 I would never do that. 2015-02-11T14:32:40 I have people for that. 2015-02-11T14:32:43 basically we alternate to ensure we can cater to a variety of time zones 2015-02-11T14:32:47 ok 2015-02-11T14:32:49 as we have a broad spread of contributors 2015-02-11T14:33:18 i manage to do both since they are at opposite ends of my work day to try and provide some continuity 2015-02-11T14:33:42 we did used to meet at this time every week but there was a lot of feedback to offer another option 2015-02-11T14:33:54 ijw, 1800UTC or 1900UTC ??? 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2015-02-11T14:39:23 sgordon: ok also fine 2015-02-11T14:39:24 ijw, yeah that sounds good 2015-02-11T14:40:10 I will give an internal workshop to teach ppl "how to review" 2015-02-11T14:40:27 maybe I can invite more ppl and put it to ML 2015-02-11T14:40:30 yeah, i am happy to help with that as well 2015-02-11T14:40:53 vks: the idea is that even missing every other meeting there should be enough people in common to get the work done 2015-02-11T14:40:58 #info repo name will be telcowg-usecases 2015-02-11T14:41:00 *** sergef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:41:13 no issues 2015-02-11T14:41:19 mkoderer, so are you creating the lp group etc.? 2015-02-11T14:41:44 sgordon: I am a bit busy currently.. but I can do 2015-02-11T14:42:00 ok 2015-02-11T14:42:05 *** jprovazn has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:42:08 just let me know what you can do and i will pick up the rest 2015-02-11T14:42:13 just want to avoid duplicating effort 2015-02-11T14:42:17 sgordon: ok sounds great 2015-02-11T14:42:23 *** ruhe has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:42:28 *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:42:31 cool 2015-02-11T14:42:47 #action mkoderer and sgordon to work together on LP and repo creation 2015-02-11T14:42:51 #topic other discussion 2015-02-11T14:42:51 *** sergef has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:42:51 *** wbrothers has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:42:53 *** openstack changes topic to "other discussion (Meeting topic: telcowg)" 2015-02-11T14:43:00 did anyone have anything else they would like to raise today? 2015-02-11T14:43:06 *** wbrothers is now known as wbrothers-wfh 2015-02-11T14:43:06 *** sergef has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:43:08 would like to flag mkoderer's (I think) etherpad on orchestration @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/telco_orchestration 2015-02-11T14:43:23 have added comments on my view of how OpenStack sits with the ETSI NFV orchestration model, particularly on the implications of the NFV Orchestrator spanning multiple clouds 2015-02-11T14:43:38 may be surprising/controversial to some, so interested in feedback 2015-02-11T14:43:55 net is it identifies Heat with the NFV VNFM component, and lists some gaps I see it having for that role 2015-02-11T14:44:07 cloudon: yeah we need to move forward with that disucssion in general 2015-02-11T14:44:37 cloudon: I think we should transform it to a "use case" and do a review 2015-02-11T14:44:43 cloudon, i can help 2015-02-11T14:45:19 #info cloudon flagged some comments on orchestration @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/telco_orchestration 2015-02-11T14:45:33 *** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:45:49 *** sgotliv has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:45:54 mkoderer_cloud +1 2015-02-11T14:46:03 *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:46:30 *** sdake__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:47:31 sgordon: regarding HA topic 2015-02-11T14:47:52 Will we hold on it landing in gerrit before reviewing then? 2015-02-11T14:48:08 sgordon: there are some ppl very instressted on that. I will work together with them in the next weeks 2015-02-11T14:48:12 *** sgotliv__ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:48:19 mkoderer_cloud, ack 2015-02-11T14:48:22 thanks 2015-02-11T14:48:47 I will put everything in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/telcowg-usecase-openstack-ha 2015-02-11T14:49:10 *** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:50:10 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/telcowg-usecase-openstack-ha 2015-02-11T14:50:11 *** jckasper_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:50:22 *** sdake has quit IRC 2015-02-11T14:50:23 #action mkoderer to continue working on HA user case 2015-02-11T14:50:26 #undo 2015-02-11T14:50:27 Removing item from minutes: 2015-02-11T14:50:29 #action mkoderer to continue working on HA use case 2015-02-11T14:50:30 *** yuanying-alt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:52:40 *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T14:52:48 ok 2015-02-11T14:52:55 thank you all for your time 2015-02-11T14:53:08 lots of good items today... 2015-02-11T14:53:10 #endmeeting 2015-02-11T14:53:11 *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" 2015-02-11T14:53:12 Meeting ended Wed Feb 11 14:53:10 2015 UTC. 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The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 2015-02-11T16:03:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 2015-02-11T16:03:35 *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:03:36 The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' 2015-02-11T16:03:52 *** prad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:04:02 *** rwsu-afk is now known as rwsu 2015-02-11T16:04:06 #topic: Agenda 2015-02-11T16:04:06 *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:04:12 #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 2015-02-11T16:04:28 *** jungleboyj has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:04:28 *** akiskourtis has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:04:37 *** jungleboyj has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:04:41 Hopefully more people will join as we go along 2015-02-11T16:04:44 *** Longgeek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:04:54 #topic: Announcements: 2015-02-11T16:04:55 *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements: (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:04:59 *** _nadya_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:05:14 Kilo-2 is out 2015-02-11T16:05:43 FPF for Kilo is approaching - March 5th 2015-02-11T16:06:01 keep this in mind if you plan on proposing anything new in Kilo release 2015-02-11T16:06:36 I do not have any other announcements - does anybody have any? 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2015-02-11T16:10:54 neutron+stackforge 2015-02-11T16:10:58 *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:11:11 i.e.: 2015-02-11T16:11:22 *** david-lyle_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:11:28 neutron with stackforge of your driver 2015-02-11T16:11:43 I chatted with Armando about the documentation - he suggested to add to https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/doc/source/devref/contribute.rst 2015-02-11T16:12:42 If anybody needs any help or clarification, feel free to ping me - I will be happy to help 2015-02-11T16:13:13 i will also add to this if i see holes to be covered 2015-02-11T16:13:26 you can see Arista code by simply invoking "sudo pip install networking_arista" 2015-02-11T16:13:47 *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:13:52 shivharis: cool 2015-02-11T16:14:35 Anything else on the decomposition? 2015-02-11T16:15:19 *** diemt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:15:24 #topic: ML2 sync - Task Flow 2015-02-11T16:15:25 *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 sync - Task Flow (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:15:39 *** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:15:43 manishg: are you here? 2015-02-11T16:16:09 *** tbarron has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:16:13 manishg: posted update to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154333/ 2015-02-11T16:16:15 hi 2015-02-11T16:16:27 I started with this patch 2015-02-11T16:16:29 I do not if folks have had a chance to look at it 2015-02-11T16:16:44 there is still bunch of stuff to add. 2015-02-11T16:17:00 I hope to have the async part done today or tomorrow. 2015-02-11T16:17:09 manishg: I stated to look at it did not understand the mock1/2 stuff - other was reasonably clear 2015-02-11T16:17:17 manishg: Since most of us aren’t very familiar with TaskFlow, can you summarize how TaskFlow is used in this so far? 2015-02-11T16:17:33 mock1/2 is just a sample set of drivers that shows how you can split 2015-02-11T16:17:37 tasks in a driver. 2015-02-11T16:17:38 *** fzdarsky has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:17:48 and it shows some of the reverting mechanism. 2015-02-11T16:17:52 *** sadasu has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:18:05 so the driver can split tasks internally any which way. 2015-02-11T16:18:08 manishg: So, those will become tests ? 2015-02-11T16:18:11 will add more documentation 2015-02-11T16:18:12 *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:18:19 no those are just samples in PoC 2015-02-11T16:18:45 those won't really go in patch - but it's just to give an idea on how one could break a driver 2015-02-11T16:18:46 I see - please add some documentation - that will help 2015-02-11T16:18:48 if they wanted to 2015-02-11T16:18:51 sure 2015-02-11T16:18:57 need to add a lot more 2015-02-11T16:19:08 Maybe name them example1/2 instead of mock. 2015-02-11T16:19:23 HenryG: +1 2015-02-11T16:19:26 HenryG: sounds good. will do. 2015-02-11T16:19:34 here are the steps I'm thinking of : 2015-02-11T16:19:49 1) same as current, except revert etc. is easier (with taskflow) 2015-02-11T16:19:49 *** andreykurilin_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:20:04 2) add db changes (for intermediate states) 2015-02-11T16:20:11 3) add async part 2015-02-11T16:20:17 *** GLaupre has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:20:24 *** andreykurilin_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:20:25 manishg: In the normal case, does TaskFlow call the execute() and then post_execute() methods on each MD? Does it do this after the REST call may have returned? 2015-02-11T16:20:26 4) persistence - so if process dies tasks can be resumed 2015-02-11T16:21:06 rkukura: post-execute is always called (it's mainly for cleanup etc. if needed). re REST call 2015-02-11T16:21:21 I need to make it async first. (#3 above). 2015-02-11T16:21:30 *** aglarendil has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:21:44 the issue is that there needs to be an intermediate state for meaningful failure handling 2015-02-11T16:21:47 in async case. 2015-02-11T16:21:55 manishg: So right now, the calls to .run() run them synchronously? 2015-02-11T16:22:16 yeah. so it just gives an idea of some change. 2015-02-11T16:22:30 I could replace .run() with executor.submit(eng.run) 2015-02-11T16:22:34 and it will make it async 2015-02-11T16:22:56 but it won't be perfect as exception handling won't be that clear (revert etc) 2015-02-11T16:23:19 manishg: This is post-Kilo work, right? 2015-02-11T16:23:22 manishg: Is see. Thanks. 2015-02-11T16:23:28 Do we all agree on the intermediate states part? 2015-02-11T16:23:34 *** noslzzp has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:23:45 HenryG: probably. we want to explore some ways to solve this problem. and I suspect 2015-02-11T16:23:56 that API/ RPC split will also have an impact on this 2015-02-11T16:24:05 which is kilo-3 now, right? 2015-02-11T16:24:11 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:24:29 *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:24:29 I think kevinbenton hasn't put out a patch yet for the pecan work. 2015-02-11T16:24:34 manishg: By intermediate states do you mean that there would be creating/updating/deleting states until all tasks for these complete? 2015-02-11T16:25:07 yeah, if we make it async then the idea is we want to do the db update (after validation) and then mark it as 'in-progress' (creating, etc.) 2015-02-11T16:25:11 *** radez_g0n3 is now known as radez 2015-02-11T16:25:16 and then dispatch tasks to drivers. 2015-02-11T16:25:25 manishg: new neutron API will be introducing intermediate states - will this not align with those? 2015-02-11T16:25:27 *** nshaikh has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:25:36 *** moshele has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:25:40 we could have an intermediate table (or let taskflow handle that) where each driver state is maintained until successful. 2015-02-11T16:26:14 Sukhdev: yeah. that's why I had stopped work on this earlier (due to API/ RPC split) 2015-02-11T16:26:37 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:26:39 *** marcusvrn1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:26:48 which would basically split all API work into - db related update and the actual work (which can be async and could be done on another node) 2015-02-11T16:27:00 Sukhdev: Is “new neutron API” part of the pecan BP? 2015-02-11T16:27:10 rkukura: yes. 2015-02-11T16:27:18 *** tsekiyama has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:27:22 + there is another spec (by salvatore) about object model. 2015-02-11T16:27:30 rkukura: I am not absolutely sure about it - but, my guess is yes 2015-02-11T16:27:30 Sorry, what is the "API/RPC split"? 2015-02-11T16:27:33 *** marcusvrn2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:27:34 *** harlowja_at_home has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:27:52 HenryG: I'm refering to the pecan and object-model work. this was discussed in 2015-02-11T16:28:03 paris and mid-cycle. 2015-02-11T16:28:15 *** marcusvrn has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:28:22 manishg: thanks 2015-02-11T16:28:47 The idea that mark had mentioned that REST call shouldn't be waiting for the backend 2015-02-11T16:28:51 which can take a while. 2015-02-11T16:29:03 similar requirements for ML2 as well as LBaaS 2015-02-11T16:29:09 *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:29:23 LBaaS is using taskflow (based on last chat with one of the devs) 2015-02-11T16:29:43 *** VW_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:29:45 they have very similar requirements but don't have postcommit, etc. 2015-02-11T16:29:56 manishg: So, then what is the concern about intermediate states - that you asked earlier? This should align well, right? 2015-02-11T16:30:20 *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:30:43 *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:30:45 rkukura: with the async part, we'll need to track the state of each mech driver. I was thinking that could be another table (which will hold interim states of each driver given a resource-id + operation) 2015-02-11T16:30:59 Sukhdev: no concern. just wanted to make sure we are in sync 2015-02-11T16:31:07 *** marcusvrn1 has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:31:12 manishg: are these tasks thread safe? will they potentially run in parallel 2015-02-11T16:31:15 manishg: Something like that may be needed 2015-02-11T16:31:37 *** stamak has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:31:38 *** moshele has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:31:44 shivharis: yes. they can run in parallel (it is up to us). for example, 2015-02-11T16:32:00 *** markstur_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:32:02 *** pmalik has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:32:04 *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:32:04 within a driver you could generate a set of tasks to complete the job. and they maybe serial or parallel. 2015-02-11T16:32:05 *** markstur_ has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:32:08 *** wbrothers has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:32:15 manishg: I think your current patch is a great start, and will enable more concrete discussion of the next steps. 2015-02-11T16:32:22 *** Riddhi has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:32:24 *** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:32:33 ok, cool. will add more and add lot more documentation :) 2015-02-11T16:32:41 including about thoughts on future work 2015-02-11T16:32:43 sounds good? 2015-02-11T16:32:54 manishg: +1 2015-02-11T16:32:54 manishg: +1 2015-02-11T16:32:57 *** Riddhi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:33:02 manishg: +1 2015-02-11T16:33:17 Look forward to clear documentation, manishg 2015-02-11T16:33:37 Folks, anything else on this topic? 2015-02-11T16:33:39 The link to patch is on agenda. please add yourself as reviewer. 2015-02-11T16:34:11 I’ll review, and also need to review the related kilo specs. 2015-02-11T16:34:33 *** VW_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:34:35 I already started to review it an got lost with mock1/2 :-):-) 2015-02-11T16:35:00 shall we move on? 2015-02-11T16:35:00 I'll replace mock with example (my bad, thanks for suggestion HenryG). 2015-02-11T16:35:23 *** slagle has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:35:25 * Sukhdev waiting for any more comments before moving on 2015-02-11T16:35:26 let's move on. if you have comments please comment on the patch. 2015-02-11T16:35:40 #topic: ML2 Extension Driver API enhancements 2015-02-11T16:35:41 *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 Extension Driver API enhancements (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:35:57 Is Shweta here ? 2015-02-11T16:36:00 yea 2015-02-11T16:36:15 *** denis_makogon has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:36:23 so my patch for the extension driver is here 2015-02-11T16:36:24 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152759/4 2015-02-11T16:36:48 *** EricGonczer_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:36:51 i have a question regarding the extend_xxx_dict method in driver_api 2015-02-11T16:37:09 *** coolsvap has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:37:15 *** akiskourtis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:37:25 Note that this is needed for the PortSecuity BP implementation, which is trying to re-use the portsecurity_db mixin code via an ML2 extension driver. 2015-02-11T16:37:41 the existing implementation passes the db session to the method 2015-02-11T16:37:43 *** vks has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:39:07 I have not had a chance to review this yet 2015-02-11T16:39:19 *** yuanying-alt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:39:44 Although when it is called in https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py 2015-02-11T16:39:45 I’ve been reviewing this one, and see that the existing ED API doesn’t work well with the existing portsecurity_db code. 2015-02-11T16:40:09 *** jrist has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:40:30 if you pass the session, then the extension driver must be very quick in whatever it needs to do... right? 2015-02-11T16:40:50 And I am convinced that some non-backwards-compatible changes to the ED API are needed to enable this. The other option would be to not re-use the portsecurity_db code. 2015-02-11T16:41:10 *** sdake__ is now known as sdake 2015-02-11T16:41:20 shivharis: These ED calls are made within transactions - they are intended to move data between dicts and DB models. 2015-02-11T16:41:42 rkukura: ok 2015-02-11T16:41:46 i could pass the session i guess, but the function _ml2_md_extend_network_dict(self, result, netdb): in plugin.py also has the netdb variable that is never made use of 2015-02-11T16:41:52 in the existing implementation 2015-02-11T16:41:57 do we leave that as is? 2015-02-11T16:42:47 Basic question to me seems to be whether breaking existing EDs is a concern. 2015-02-11T16:43:39 what's the existing EDs? 2015-02-11T16:43:40 If we agree ED API enhancements are needed and acceptilble, then we can worry about the details. 2015-02-11T16:43:48 so far I don't know any. 2015-02-11T16:44:02 *** yuanying-alt has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:44:31 I don’t see any EDs in-tree. 2015-02-11T16:45:11 If what yamahata says is true - then this seems to be slam dunk - but, seems too good to be true :-):-) 2015-02-11T16:45:21 I know Cisco’s DFA driver plans to use one, but isn’t merged. 2015-02-11T16:46:15 rkukura: So, if one or two cases are impacted, it may be easier to coordinate with them - it may not be too bad 2015-02-11T16:46:29 The GBP code also supports a similar ED API, but we can update that if it makes sense. 2015-02-11T16:46:42 *** nlahouti has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:46:59 So one enhancement is basically to pass plugin_context in place of, or in addition to, the DB session. 2015-02-11T16:47:23 *** ddmitriev has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:47:29 And the other is to pass the base resource’s model instance to the extend_dict functions. 2015-02-11T16:48:17 both these changes are in my current patch 2015-02-11T16:48:28 One thoughts was that some or all the ED methods should take some sort of ML2 Context objects so they can be extended in the future without breaking drivers. 2015-02-11T16:48:39 *** shadower has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:48:44 *** rjrjr has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:48:58 Similar to the PortContext, NetworkContext, and SubnetContext we pass to MDs. 2015-02-11T16:49:13 *** moshele has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:49:21 *** marios has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:49:23 *** moshele has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:50:13 I’d suggest we discuss via the gerrit review, and move on. 2015-02-11T16:50:43 ok 2015-02-11T16:50:59 rkukura: Can you add this as review comments to the patch and let others review the patch along with you comments and hopefully get to some resolution 2015-02-11T16:51:13 Sukhdev: will do 2015-02-11T16:51:26 Anything else on this patch? 2015-02-11T16:51:39 no 2015-02-11T16:51:40 #topic: Bugs 2015-02-11T16:51:41 *** openstack changes topic to ": Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:51:46 hi 2015-02-11T16:52:02 we need help in reviews 2015-02-11T16:52:06 shivharis: what say you, sir 2015-02-11T16:52:09 for:https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1179223 2015-02-11T16:52:11 Launchpad bug 1179223 in neutron "Retired GRE and VXLAN tunnels persists in neutron db" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Romil Gupta (romilg) 2015-02-11T16:52:18 *** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:52:32 can i seek some volunteers here? 2015-02-11T16:52:58 shivharis: I'll try to review this week. 2015-02-11T16:53:07 I’ve been reviewing this one, and will review the latest patch set. 2015-02-11T16:53:08 shivharis:I can help 2015-02-11T16:53:13 I will look at it as well 2015-02-11T16:53:16 *** ajmiller has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:53:29 manishg, rkukura, Sikhdev, nlahouti: thanks 2015-02-11T16:53:43 other high bugs seem to be all in good hands 2015-02-11T16:53:46 *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:53:53 rkukura, HenryG, romilg thanks for reviewing this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124917/ - can we get another core to review? 2015-02-11T16:53:56 *** scheuran has quit IRC 2015-02-11T16:54:16 moving forward, i hope all the vendor specific bugs will move to stackforge as well? 2015-02-11T16:54:55 shivharis: Not until L… release 2015-02-11T16:55:21 i usually do not worry too much about those now 2015-02-11T16:55:45 shivharis: Happy to report that one of Arista driver bug has already been diverted to stackforge 2015-02-11T16:55:50 *** coolsvap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:56:00 *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:56:16 please pick up some medium non-vendor specific bugs if you can 2015-02-11T16:56:17 shivharis: I hope to get the next step of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152759/ out for review before next weeks meeting 2015-02-11T16:56:35 rkukura: thanks that is k-3 2015-02-11T16:56:47 *** daniel3_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:56:54 shivharis: yes - the first part made k-2 2015-02-11T16:57:13 yes, thanks rkukura 2015-02-11T16:57:15 * Sukhdev time check 3 min. 2015-02-11T16:57:37 Anything else on bugs> 2015-02-11T16:57:38 overall we look fairly good for ml2 bugs at this time. thanks folks for the efforts 2015-02-11T16:57:42 *** jjmb has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T16:57:54 moving on... 2015-02-11T16:57:57 #topic: Open Discussion 2015-02-11T16:57:57 *** openstack changes topic to ": Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" 2015-02-11T16:58:08 Anybody has anything? 2015-02-11T16:58:16 * Sukhdev waiting 2015-02-11T16:58:32 shivharis: Do you feel the current bug importance setting are reasonable? 2015-02-11T16:59:01 rkukura: seems to be looking fine, no show stoppers per se 2015-02-11T16:59:06 anyone using linuxbridge MD + another MD that requires context.bound_segment info? 2015-02-11T16:59:37 rcurran: not me 2015-02-11T16:59:42 finding that once port['status'] leaves DOWN state that bound_segment is None 2015-02-11T16:59:52 this isn't happening w/ openvswitch 2015-02-11T17:00:06 rcurran: Sounds like a bug 2015-02-11T17:00:27 (actually I'm using rkukura's HPB code so I'm accessing via top/bottom_bound_segment's 2015-02-11T17:00:27 rcurran: Do you suspect a bug in the LB MD? 2015-02-11T17:00:28 rcurran: Open a bug and attach your finidings 2015-02-11T17:01:01 *** GeraldK has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:01:11 *** vinod1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:01:11 Folks we are up against the clock 2015-02-11T17:01:13 rcurran: The MDs are trivial and share the same base code. Could be difference in agent RPC behaviour. 2015-02-11T17:01:21 Thank you all for joining 2015-02-11T17:01:33 rkukura, looks that way 2015-02-11T17:01:45 Thanks Sukhdev! 2015-02-11T17:01:51 Thanks 2015-02-11T17:01:55 #endmeeting 2015-02-11T17:01:56 *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" 2015-02-11T17:01:58 Meeting ended Wed Feb 11 17:01:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 2015-02-11T17:01:59 Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-02-11-16.03.html 2015-02-11T17:02:00 Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-02-11-16.03.txt 2015-02-11T17:02:01 Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-02-11-16.03.log.html 2015-02-11T17:02:03 thanks,, bye all 2015-02-11T17:02:07 *** coolsvap is now known as coolsvap_ 2015-02-11T17:02:08 *** mugsie has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:02:12 bye 2015-02-11T17:02:13 *** jjmb has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:02:13 *** sadasu has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:02:14 hey 2015-02-11T17:02:16 bye 2015-02-11T17:02:18 whos here? 2015-02-11T17:02:23 o/ 2015-02-11T17:02:23 o/ 2015-02-11T17:02:25 *** rkukura has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:02:29 o/ 2015-02-11T17:02:30 *** manishg has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:02:37 \.o./ 2015-02-11T17:02:50 mugsie - do you want to do a a start meeting? 2015-02-11T17:02:53 *** nlahouti has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:02:58 #startmeeting Designate 2015-02-11T17:03:01 Meeting started Wed Feb 11 17:02:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 2015-02-11T17:03:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 2015-02-11T17:03:03 *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:03:05 The meeting name has been set to 'designate' 2015-02-11T17:03:15 #topic Action Items from last week 2015-02-11T17:03:15 *** GLaupre has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:03:17 *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from last week (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:03:28 *** paul_glass has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:03:51 *** asomya has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:03:57 both seem to have been done - we met last firday, and bug triage is on the agenda :) 2015-02-11T17:04:13 *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:04:17 *** shivharis has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:04:29 #topic Kilo Release Status 2015-02-11T17:04:30 *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo Release Status (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:04:34 #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-3 2015-02-11T17:04:55 *** ashleighfarnham has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:05:03 anything that should not be there / should be there / issues with the current milestone? 2015-02-11T17:05:12 *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:05:24 *** shadower has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:05:39 also, Kiall is currently on his way home - we were on the West coast of Ireland for meetings the last 3 days 2015-02-11T17:05:49 so he may join in a bit, if he gets home in time 2015-02-11T17:05:53 *** ashleighfarnham has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:06:16 Probably nothing yet to add to k3. I 2015-02-11T17:06:20 *** SridharRamaswamy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:06:32 If you're working on something that's not in there, add it yeah? 2015-02-11T17:06:41 paul_glass: did you get a chance to open a bug on your issue last week? 2015-02-11T17:06:43 timsim: +1 2015-02-11T17:07:52 anything else on this? 2015-02-11T17:07:53 *** rmoe has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:08:02 rjrjr: I couldn't reproduce it. 2015-02-11T17:08:05 so no 2015-02-11T17:08:10 *** pmalik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:08:14 okay. 2015-02-11T17:08:19 We're good then. 2015-02-11T17:08:29 #topic Pools - Where are we? 2015-02-11T17:08:31 *** openstack changes topic to "Pools - Where are we? (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:09:03 I was wondering about the database stuff that got started at the mid-cycle. Where's that at? 2015-02-11T17:09:08 i think we are in a simliar place as last week - anyone have anything pressing for this? I saw patches from rjrjr 2015-02-11T17:09:13 *** e0ne is now known as e0ne_ 2015-02-11T17:09:13 *** u_glide has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:09:18 timsim: same as the mid cycle :( 2015-02-11T17:09:27 this is on my list for this / early next week 2015-02-11T17:09:36 myself and Kiall are finally back in an office 2015-02-11T17:09:49 Cool. Is that patch for resiliency ready to review/merge rjrjr ? 2015-02-11T17:09:51 *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:09:53 i have 2 bugs i'll be working on early next week. looks like vinod1 also has some bugs. 2015-02-11T17:10:04 that patch has been ready for almost 2 weeks now. 2015-02-11T17:10:06 (i have spend more time in hotels than my own house in the last 6 weeks :( ) 2015-02-11T17:10:07 :( 2015-02-11T17:10:11 That's what I thought. 2015-02-11T17:10:18 rjrjr: I will add it to my list for the morning 2015-02-11T17:10:25 what is the review number? 2015-02-11T17:10:29 rjrjr: I will look at it later today 2015-02-11T17:10:37 *** fzdarsky has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:10:39 *** EmilienM is now known as EmilienM|afk 2015-02-11T17:10:40 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149428/ 2015-02-11T17:10:41 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149428/ 2015-02-11T17:11:06 mugsie: while you are in the review mode - could you also review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148779/ 2015-02-11T17:11:14 #action cores: (mugsie,Kiall,vinod1): get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149428/ merged 2015-02-11T17:11:21 vinod1: +1 2015-02-11T17:11:22 *** ashleighfarnham has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:11:24 That is for Adding a new API for abandoning a zone from storage 2015-02-11T17:11:34 yeah, definitly 2015-02-11T17:11:45 *** spzala has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:11:54 *** shadower has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:11:55 that looked good the last time, I just hadn;t tested it locally yet :) 2015-02-11T17:11:56 *** e0ne_ is now known as e0ne 2015-02-11T17:12:14 anything else outstanding on this? 2015-02-11T17:12:23 Not from me. 2015-02-11T17:12:25 *** bobmel_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:12:29 i'm good. 2015-02-11T17:12:36 cool 2015-02-11T17:12:50 #topic Next sprint 2015-02-11T17:12:51 *** openstack changes topic to "Next sprint (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:12:56 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-documentation-sprint 2015-02-11T17:13:11 We should probably start claiming stuff on that, yeah? 2015-02-11T17:13:20 That's this Friday 2015-02-11T17:13:21 this is next friday, so can people please claim areas this week, so we can get moving stright away 2015-02-11T17:13:26 shit 2015-02-11T17:13:29 it is this friday 2015-02-11T17:13:40 * mugsie has no concpet of time anymore 2015-02-11T17:13:56 so, yes, please claim areas today / tomorrow 2015-02-11T17:14:32 *** sdake has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:14:36 any questions on ^ ? 2015-02-11T17:14:44 I added some more areas to that doc 2015-02-11T17:14:47 Will everyone be there? 2015-02-11T17:14:59 everyone is free to join - old and new contributors alike :) 2015-02-11T17:15:04 I know I will be 2015-02-11T17:15:18 not sure about ekarlso , and I think Kiall should be 2015-02-11T17:15:19 i will be there 2015-02-11T17:15:25 i will be there. 2015-02-11T17:15:40 cool. so a reasonably full house 2015-02-11T17:15:43 mugsie - do you plan to send an email to the openstack-dev mailing list? 2015-02-11T17:15:53 *** jodah has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:15:57 i hadn't, but that is a good idea 2015-02-11T17:16:16 #action mugsie email -dev list about sprint 2015-02-11T17:16:33 *** MarkAtwood has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:16:54 anyone who has input about our docs feel free to jump on and give feedback as wll 2015-02-11T17:17:15 even if you are not comfortable about contributing changes to them 2015-02-11T17:17:42 anything else on the sprint? 2015-02-11T17:17:53 Nope. :) 2015-02-11T17:18:03 i'm good. 2015-02-11T17:18:24 #topic Elect another core member 2015-02-11T17:18:26 *** openstack changes topic to "Elect another core member (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:18:47 so, as people may have seen in the dns channel betsy has resigned from core 2015-02-11T17:18:57 In case anybody missed - Betsy left for another group in Rackspace 2015-02-11T17:19:07 that leaves us with a spot on designate-core 2015-02-11T17:19:38 the traditional openstack way of replacing cores is for someone to send an email to the -dev list nomintating someone 2015-02-11T17:19:45 I would like to propose Tim for that spot. He has been reviewing code a lot lately 2015-02-11T17:19:54 and the rest of the cores reply +/-1 2015-02-11T17:20:02 vinod1: cool 2015-02-11T17:20:09 *** jodah has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:20:10 *** _nadya_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:20:17 can you send a nomination email to the list? 2015-02-11T17:20:19 So do we want to do it the traditional way? 2015-02-11T17:20:29 Okay I will send a nomination to the list 2015-02-11T17:20:46 I think that as we get more part of openstack we should abide by the forms 2015-02-11T17:20:57 it also makes the whole thing transparent :) 2015-02-11T17:21:13 *** SridharRamaswamy has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:21:14 is that OK with everyoine? 2015-02-11T17:21:30 sounds good. 2015-02-11T17:21:33 Sounds good. 2015-02-11T17:21:35 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:21:42 OK, cool :) 2015-02-11T17:21:55 *** SridharRamaswamy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:21:56 *** andreykurilin_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:22:01 #topic Bug triage (timsim-recurring) 2015-02-11T17:22:02 *** openstack changes topic to "Bug triage (timsim-recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:22:28 ok, let me get a URL for the bug list 2015-02-11T17:22:55 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 2015-02-11T17:23:21 how do we want to do this? 2015-02-11T17:23:32 start at the top, one at a time? 2015-02-11T17:23:39 we divide the bugs up? or do we want to run down through each of them? 2015-02-11T17:23:55 ok 2015-02-11T17:23:58 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1289444 2015-02-11T17:23:59 Launchpad bug 1289444 in Designate "Designate with postgres backend is having issues" [Medium,New] 2015-02-11T17:24:00 I think usually this would be a smaller list, so going through them one by one is probably fine. 2015-02-11T17:24:23 *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:24:40 i think this can move to Triaged 2015-02-11T17:25:04 (can someone else change the status - I don't have my 2 factor token on me right now) 2015-02-11T17:25:10 *** derekh has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:25:15 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:25:21 Done. 2015-02-11T17:25:36 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1412431 2015-02-11T17:25:37 Launchpad bug 1412431 in Designate "handling format with a display_name containing underscore" [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:25:39 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:26:09 This seems like a bug in the example sink handler? 2015-02-11T17:26:20 yup 2015-02-11T17:26:28 not sure if a bug, or a doc issue 2015-02-11T17:26:45 as you are not nessiarly supposed to use the example ;) 2015-02-11T17:26:48 Yeah 2015-02-11T17:26:59 If you're not supposed to use that, it's probably fine not to fix that. 2015-02-11T17:27:16 we could triage it and mark it as wishlist 2015-02-11T17:27:24 If that's an issue for you using it, you should solve that issue however you want. 2015-02-11T17:27:47 or close it as won't fix - with a description of ^ 2015-02-11T17:27:58 i like that approach. 2015-02-11T17:27:59 opinions? 2015-02-11T17:28:02 I am leaning towards won't fix 2015-02-11T17:28:10 cool - wont fix it is 2015-02-11T17:28:12 #agreed. 2015-02-11T17:28:13 Either one. If you wishlist it, that seems to indicate to me that we're going to supply a handler to use by default. 2015-02-11T17:28:20 So I like won't fix. 2015-02-11T17:28:30 timsim: care to do the honours? 2015-02-11T17:28:33 Sure 2015-02-11T17:28:34 *** pmalik has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:29:00 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1413806 2015-02-11T17:29:01 Launchpad bug 1413806 in Designate "desigate.plugin.DriverPlugin Hides Errors from Developers" [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:29:01 timsim: could you add some reasoning too? 2015-02-11T17:29:07 vinod1: Yep 2015-02-11T17:29:13 *** HeOS has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:29:18 *** pmalik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:29:21 *** Sukhdev has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:29:26 ^ needs to be triaged, and marked as med IMHO 2015-02-11T17:29:31 medium* 2015-02-11T17:29:44 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:30:04 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:30:16 milestone - kilo3? 2015-02-11T17:30:16 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:30:25 yup 2015-02-11T17:30:30 *** mwang2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:30:54 Done 2015-02-11T17:30:57 cool 2015-02-11T17:30:59 *** safchain has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:31:00 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416263 2015-02-11T17:31:02 Launchpad bug 1416263 in Designate "Pool Manager's Periodic Sync Needs to Regress States" [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:31:06 agreeable group today. 2015-02-11T17:31:10 :) 2015-02-11T17:31:34 high or critical probably. definitely kilo-3. 2015-02-11T17:31:47 high - k3 IMHO 2015-02-11T17:31:55 So this is basically, zone is out of sync, periodic sync calls update_status? 2015-02-11T17:32:13 k3 high works for me 2015-02-11T17:32:13 correct. 2015-02-11T17:32:36 We agreed on k3-high? 2015-02-11T17:32:39 vinod1: k3 - high ok with you? 2015-02-11T17:32:42 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:32:43 yes 2015-02-11T17:32:46 done 2015-02-11T17:32:55 * not by my 2015-02-11T17:32:58 me* 2015-02-11T17:33:00 Done. 2015-02-11T17:33:00 gah 2015-02-11T17:33:04 *** ChrisPriceAB has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:33:15 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416264 2015-02-11T17:33:17 Launchpad bug 1416264 in Designate "Pool Manager Needs to Recover from Backend Changes" [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:33:22 high or critical - kilo-3 2015-02-11T17:33:47 C - K3 2015-02-11T17:33:51 k3 - high 2015-02-11T17:33:57 *** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:34:09 I'm cool with Critical too. 2015-02-11T17:34:14 Ron - is this when a domain is being updated and pool manager discovers that the domain does not exist on the backend 2015-02-11T17:34:21 correct. 2015-02-11T17:34:32 or sync finds its not on the backend as well right? 2015-02-11T17:34:42 either case. 2015-02-11T17:34:52 C - K3 2015-02-11T17:34:58 *** tdruiva has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:35:02 Alright, Critical - K3 it is 2015-02-11T17:35:07 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:35:10 :) 2015-02-11T17:35:15 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416337 2015-02-11T17:35:17 Launchpad bug 1416337 in Designate "Designate server create with concurrent request is not listing all servers even after successful creation." [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:35:26 this needs investigation 2015-02-11T17:35:38 it was said it was intermitent 2015-02-11T17:35:50 has anyone tried to re-create? 2015-02-11T17:35:52 it underscores our need for more integration testing too. :( 2015-02-11T17:36:15 So maybe we leave this one new? 2015-02-11T17:36:31 timsim: yup, thats what I am thining 2015-02-11T17:36:37 until we confirm 2015-02-11T17:36:42 rjrjr: 100% 2015-02-11T17:37:01 Alright, hopefully someone takes a look at it in the next week and we can revisit. 2015-02-11T17:37:03 *** shivharis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:37:08 cool 2015-02-11T17:37:11 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1418156 2015-02-11T17:37:12 Launchpad bug 1418156 in Designate "Policy definition (policy.json) is not honored for admin tenant " [Undecided,New] 2015-02-11T17:37:37 this one is not a bug in my opinion - it is lack of docs about the all_tenants flag for the API 2015-02-11T17:37:45 #agreed mugsie 2015-02-11T17:38:06 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:38:17 this looks like an eBay reported bug too. 2015-02-11T17:38:20 *** sdake has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:38:22 :) 2015-02-11T17:38:34 *** jungleboyj has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:38:36 So 'Not A Bug' and a short explanation that the all tenants flag needs to be used there. And we note that on the docs sprint page? 2015-02-11T17:38:39 *** shivharis has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:38:51 +1 2015-02-11T17:38:56 +1 2015-02-11T17:38:58 any issues with ^ ? 2015-02-11T17:39:28 ok, that seems like consensuious 2015-02-11T17:39:41 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1420359 2015-02-11T17:39:43 Launchpad bug 1420359 in Designate "Deleting a recordset returns 204 (Deleted) even though it is async" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Vinod Mangalpally (vinod-mang) 2015-02-11T17:39:54 vinod1: you have a patch for ^ do you not? 2015-02-11T17:40:00 not yet 2015-02-11T17:40:12 oh 2015-02-11T17:40:18 i thought i saw a patch 2015-02-11T17:40:20 ok. 2015-02-11T17:40:24 high - kilo-3 2015-02-11T17:40:30 *** mwang2_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:40:38 med - k3 2015-02-11T17:40:43 med k3 2015-02-11T17:40:56 med k3 2015-02-11T17:41:03 med - k3 2015-02-11T17:41:03 *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:41:04 med works 2015-02-11T17:41:06 it is then* 2015-02-11T17:41:07 Done 2015-02-11T17:41:21 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1420399 2015-02-11T17:41:23 Launchpad bug 1420399 in Designate "A zone's status needs to be updated when its recordsets are updated" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Vinod Mangalpally (vinod-mang) 2015-02-11T17:41:46 med - k3 / k-rc1 2015-02-11T17:42:11 if we can get it done in k3 great, but not sure if the time will allow for it 2015-02-11T17:42:18 med k3 2015-02-11T17:42:21 opinions? 2015-02-11T17:42:23 med - k3 2015-02-11T17:42:31 these are pretty simple fixes IMHO 2015-02-11T17:42:45 ok, cool - if it can be done - 100% med - k3 2015-02-11T17:42:47 i hope to have a patchset up today 2015-02-11T17:42:54 :D 2015-02-11T17:42:54 Cool. M K3 it is. 2015-02-11T17:43:01 #agreed 2015-02-11T17:43:03 and that is the list :) 2015-02-11T17:43:26 #topic Open Discussion 2015-02-11T17:43:27 quick and painless. like the idea of doing these in this meeting. 2015-02-11T17:43:28 *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Designate)" 2015-02-11T17:43:32 rjrjr: me too 2015-02-11T17:43:42 any one have anthong out of band? 2015-02-11T17:43:44 *** pmalik has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:44:13 *** mwang2 has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:44:20 *** pmalik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:44:20 none from me 2015-02-11T17:44:21 Not me. 2015-02-11T17:44:23 going... 2015-02-11T17:44:25 just a comment - we will be live on Designate for some AZs on Monday. 2015-02-11T17:44:27 *** nshah has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T17:44:37 Icehouse though. :( 2015-02-11T17:44:37 rjrjr: congrats :D 2015-02-11T17:44:43 thats OK 2015-02-11T17:44:48 Cool! 2015-02-11T17:44:56 another live install is still cool 2015-02-11T17:45:43 anything else? 2015-02-11T17:45:59 after that, i'll be able to devote more time to PM and other tasks again. 2015-02-11T17:46:04 i'm good. 2015-02-11T17:46:21 I think we can all agree on saying thanks to betsy for all her work - if the RAX people can pass it along :) 2015-02-11T17:46:26 *** lsmola has quit IRC 2015-02-11T17:46:32 Absolutely :) 2015-02-11T17:46:43 will do 2015-02-11T17:47:05 ok - thanks everyone! 2015-02-11T17:47:09 #endmeeting 2015-02-11T17:47:10 *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" 2015-02-11T17:47:12 Meeting ended Wed Feb 11 17:47:09 2015 UTC. 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The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 2015-02-11T18:00:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 2015-02-11T18:00:43 *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" 2015-02-11T18:00:44 The meeting name has been set to 'trove' 2015-02-11T18:00:50 Hi folks. 2015-02-11T18:00:50 o/ 2015-02-11T18:00:55 *** annashen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:00:57 hiya SlickNik 2015-02-11T18:01:03 o/ 2015-02-11T18:01:08 hi 2015-02-11T18:01:10 o/ 2015-02-11T18:01:22 *** johnma has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:01:27 Agenda for the meeting is at: 2015-02-11T18:01:29 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting 2015-02-11T18:02:39 *** edmondk_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:03:11 #topic OSLO Namespace change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150709/) 2015-02-11T18:03:12 *** openstack changes topic to "OSLO Namespace change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150709/) (Meeting topic: trove)" 2015-02-11T18:03:17 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150709/ 2015-02-11T18:03:25 o/ 2015-02-11T18:03:32 o/ 2015-02-11T18:03:51 So if I recall correctly, this is one of the follow up items to the mid-cycle agenda. 2015-02-11T18:03:57 2015-02-11T18:03:57 re: change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150709/ 2015-02-11T18:03:57 This change, as presented, is incomplete and should have a hacking rule to prevent a recurrence of this problem. a sample hacking rules is available in neutron. 2015-02-11T18:03:57 Other than that, this change may be low risk. 2015-02-11T18:03:57 We don't "HAVE TO" take it for kilo but will most likely be forced to take it for "L". 2015-02-11T18:03:58 *** carl_baldwin has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:03:59 Question for discussion: Do we want to hold it in abeyance for L or reconsider for Kilo if a proper hacking rules is implemented? 2015-02-11T18:04:04 2015-02-11T18:04:36 o/ 2015-02-11T18:04:48 *** tdruiva has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:04:54 *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:05:17 My concern during the mid-cycle was how we would ensure we didn't reintroduce this problem with a patch merge — the hacking rules allays that. 2015-02-11T18:05:51 So I'm of the opinion that we should take this in Kilo, since we're going to have to bite the bullet in Liberty eventually anyway. 2015-02-11T18:05:55 SlickNik, yes. I haven't seen what was merged in neutron though. ihar said he wrote it. 2015-02-11T18:06:02 not necessarily 2015-02-11T18:06:08 doug would like to force this change in L 2015-02-11T18:06:13 *** jtomasek has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:06:14 but there's no guarantee that it will happen 2015-02-11T18:06:16 Can we define hacking rules, I am not familiar with this term and I am sure many of us are not 2015-02-11T18:06:53 edmondk: good question — https://github.com/openstack-dev/hacking/ 2015-02-11T18:06:59 they are rules that hackers adhere to. a code of some sort ;) 2015-02-11T18:07:00 o/ 2015-02-11T18:07:05 *** banix has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:07:08 lol 2015-02-11T18:07:32 That's a set of style checks that get run along with pep8 checks when you run tox -epep8 on your project 2015-02-11T18:07:35 Basically the openstack style guide 2015-02-11T18:07:43 gotcha 2015-02-11T18:08:04 didnt realize we ran more then pep8 good to know 2015-02-11T18:08:28 *** paul_glass has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:08:31 this conversation makes sense now :) 2015-02-11T18:08:37 [10:31:29] amrith: I would *like* to drop namespace packages next cycle 2015-02-11T18:08:38 [10:31:37] amrith: that's not a definite plan, yet 2015-02-11T18:08:44 SlickNik, that was from #openstack-oslo 2015-02-11T18:08:50 on 02/09 2015-02-11T18:09:19 this shouldn't be a dangerous change, it has been around for a while now in several projects... and adding the hack file would make it safer 2015-02-11T18:09:21 this doesn't seem like a high priority for kilo 2015-02-11T18:09:41 what does this gain us 2015-02-11T18:09:59 edmondk, yes. This remains a nice-to-have and if the change doesn't go into the L release in OSLO, then an unnecessary change. 2015-02-11T18:10:00 besides dhearing to new standard 2015-02-11T18:10:01 o/ 2015-02-11T18:10:15 edmondk, there's no "new standard" 2015-02-11T18:10:29 there's a proposal for a new standard that is not yet finalized 2015-02-11T18:10:30 or recommended standard? 2015-02-11T18:10:36 gotcha 2015-02-11T18:10:36 edmondk, http://blog.nemebean.com/content/whys-and-hows-oslo-namespace-change 2015-02-11T18:10:46 So in that case, I'd suggest waiting till we know that it is going to be a definite standard. 2015-02-11T18:10:59 *** tosky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:11:19 (and a more concrete timeline for when oslo expects this change to be made to the projects) 2015-02-11T18:12:22 if that's a formal proposal, I'll second it. 2015-02-11T18:13:29 Anyone opposed? 2015-02-11T18:14:05 . 2015-02-11T18:14:11 sounds good to me 2015-02-11T18:14:33 Okay — let's move on 2015-02-11T18:14:33 maybe we should ping oslo folks to know what is the deprecation status of the previous namespaces 2015-02-11T18:14:35 and work with that 2015-02-11T18:14:57 vkmc, that's something that has been (regularly) on the ml 2015-02-11T18:15:30 #topic datastore and strategy classification 2015-02-11T18:15:31 *** openstack changes topic to "datastore and strategy classification (Meeting topic: trove)" 2015-02-11T18:15:44 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154119/ 2015-02-11T18:15:48 also action item from mid-cycle. 2015-02-11T18:15:48 amrith, cool, I'll check it out 2015-02-11T18:16:01 *** adrian-hoban_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:16:26 2015-02-11T18:16:26 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154119/ 2015-02-11T18:16:26 This came up in the mid-cycle and in normal course, this would get reviewed as part of the spec review and action taken based on that. However there is an urgency to get this process accepted and implemented for the Kilo cycle so I am raising this for consideration at the meeting. 2015-02-11T18:16:26 I'd like to know if people have questions or comments, and answer any questions now. I'd encourage you to read the spec and provide comments through review as well. 2015-02-11T18:16:27 2015-02-11T18:17:55 *** ndipanov has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:18:19 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-kilo-sprint-state-of-ci 2015-02-11T18:19:07 The main idea here is to be able to communicate to deployers / users what state of CI and testing the various guest managers have undergone. 2015-02-11T18:20:54 *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:21:26 amrith: I've given the spec a quick look over, and it generally looks reasonable to me — will update it with some more detailed feedback after the meeting. 2015-02-11T18:21:30 *** ivar-lazzaro has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:21:35 I would think technical preview is already a superset of experimental so it's not necessary for Stable to say it needs to meet the requirements of technical Preview and experimental? 2015-02-11T18:21:35 SlickNik, thanks. 2015-02-11T18:21:49 amrith, it looks really good 2015-02-11T18:22:03 *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:22:56 amrith, I think this spec accurately reflects the discussions last week 2015-02-11T18:23:06 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:23:07 Can you elaborate on "Testing"? 2015-02-11T18:23:50 "T E S T I N G" 2015-02-11T18:23:52 sorry 2015-02-11T18:23:54 let me look 2015-02-11T18:23:56 one second 2015-02-11T18:24:22 So I was thinking that with this spec, what changes (materially) is imports 2015-02-11T18:24:30 and config files 2015-02-11T18:24:41 So in trying this out 2015-02-11T18:24:56 I learned that there are places where programmatically one could construct an import statement 2015-02-11T18:25:02 ok so you were referring to specifically testing the dir structure changes, ok 2015-02-11T18:25:13 and finding those is harder than searching for 'path names' 2015-02-11T18:25:19 yes, that's basically what I was looking for. 2015-02-11T18:25:24 can I still build a guest image 2015-02-11T18:25:30 are there dependencies into trove-integration 2015-02-11T18:25:37 once built, does that guest image work 2015-02-11T18:25:37 *** balajiiyer has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:25:45 what exactly do I have to do in order to upgrade 2015-02-11T18:25:51 verify those upgrade processes 2015-02-11T18:25:55 that's what I had in mind 2015-02-11T18:26:02 now, I may be missing a couple of things. 2015-02-11T18:26:06 so input there would be valuable. 2015-02-11T18:27:02 *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:27:35 *** saurabhs has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:27:42 So one thing that comes to mind is that there are some unit tests for the extensions that we have. 2015-02-11T18:28:02 *** yuanying-alt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:28:02 *** gkleiman has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:28:21 *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:28:30 Perhaps something equivalent to test the dynamic load of the manager modules would be a good test to add. 2015-02-11T18:28:53 Still working through how exactly that would help in the upgrade scenario though. 2015-02-11T18:28:57 To move out of experimental does the community vote that a specific datastore is ready, or does someone just send out a code review moving it from the experimental directory 2015-02-11T18:29:14 *** sarob has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:29:15 *** rushiagr is now known as rushiagr_away 2015-02-11T18:29:15 and switch the CI from non voting to voting 2015-02-11T18:29:21 edmondk, I'd say the second is a better approach 2015-02-11T18:29:25 edmondk: The latter I would think 2015-02-11T18:30:04 Once we are convinced that the CI is stable enough and we have the tests that we need that are running in the gate. 2015-02-11T18:30:04 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:30:05 Ok so moving the code from experimental dir and making the CI voting would be the official sanction 2015-02-11T18:30:14 k 2015-02-11T18:30:17 *** pnavarro has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:30:37 right because if anyone has any issues with the change they can comment during review 2015-02-11T18:30:40 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:31:04 *** david-lyle is now known as david-lyle_afk 2015-02-11T18:31:10 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:31:16 Any other questions or clarifications regarding this? 2015-02-11T18:31:25 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:31:59 . 2015-02-11T18:32:07 #topic Open Discussion 2015-02-11T18:32:08 *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: trove)" 2015-02-11T18:32:19 *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:32:31 *** yuanying-alt has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:32:37 thanks for hosting the mid-cycle Nikhil! 2015-02-11T18:32:40 Thanks to those who could make it to the mid-cycle last week! 2015-02-11T18:33:02 *** avozza is now known as zz_avozza 2015-02-11T18:33:03 *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:33:28 SlickNik, Is there an aggregate list of all the tasks from mid cycle? 2015-02-11T18:33:40 edmondk, funny you should ask 2015-02-11T18:33:41 For those who could not make it, and who weren't able to view the hangout sessions live — we do have recorded links to the sessions if you're interested in following the discussions that took place. 2015-02-11T18:33:55 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveKiloSprint 2015-02-11T18:34:10 edmondk, I added action items to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveKiloSprint 2015-02-11T18:34:12 perfect thanks I see the table 2015-02-11T18:34:20 edmondk: There's an aggregate list of action items on that page that amrith added too! 2015-02-11T18:34:23 Thanks amrith! 2015-02-11T18:34:29 thanks for doing that 2015-02-11T18:34:35 edmondk, so I assume you are now going to tell me that yu haven't yet done #16, ... 2015-02-11T18:34:39 convenient 2015-02-11T18:34:53 working on it 2015-02-11T18:34:59 ;) 2015-02-11T18:35:13 dan ritchie is looking into an issue with the configuration group tests being idempotent 2015-02-11T18:35:17 *** armax has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:36:01 I'm making some headway into my action items — will update that list in the wiki as I go along. 2015-02-11T18:36:09 SlickNik, is now a good time to start with #3 :) 2015-02-11T18:36:32 I made the list so I'm all set. 2015-02-11T18:36:37 just waiting for y'all to catch up. 2015-02-11T18:37:02 dougshelley66: It's funny you should mention that — I started looking at some stats over the weekend last couple of days. 2015-02-11T18:37:20 *** jprovazn has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:37:27 I should have something by the meeting next week to insert as a regular part of the agenda. 2015-02-11T18:37:32 And I did some of #5 2015-02-11T18:37:51 don't know how to share and host as a public resource quite yet 2015-02-11T18:37:57 but I have some of that ... 2015-02-11T18:38:57 Added another item for myself, 32 Update python-troveclient documentation 2015-02-11T18:39:41 *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:39:44 Thanks edmondk 2015-02-11T18:39:51 *** EmilienM|afk is now known as EmilienM 2015-02-11T18:40:24 If there are any items that you feel we discussed at the mid cycle but have been left out, please add them to the list 2015-02-11T18:40:25 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T18:40:51 This is just a dump from the action items in the various etherpads — in one place. 2015-02-11T18:41:15 *** Aish has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T18:42:08 Anything else for Open Discussion? 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The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 2015-02-11T20:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 2015-02-11T20:00:11 *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" 2015-02-11T20:00:13 The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' 2015-02-11T20:00:23 #topic roll call 2015-02-11T20:00:23 *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: Octavia)" 2015-02-11T20:00:24 o/ 2015-02-11T20:00:26 o/ 2015-02-11T20:00:27 o/ 2015-02-11T20:00:39 o/ 2015-02-11T20:00:46 Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Agenda 2015-02-11T20:01:01 o/ 2015-02-11T20:01:05 o/ 2015-02-11T20:01:40 *** TrevorV has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:01:42 *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:01:43 o/ 2015-02-11T20:01:45 late 2015-02-11T20:01:53 o/ 2015-02-11T20:02:40 #topic Brief progress reports 2015-02-11T20:02:41 *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" 2015-02-11T20:02:48 o / 2015-02-11T20:02:59 Focus on neutron-lbaas for me. 2015-02-11T20:03:05 *** localloop127 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:03:33 I am getting back to working on the controller worker. I have removed the WIP from the spec, so if you can review it would be great. 2015-02-11T20:03:43 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149801/ 2015-02-11T20:03:43 working on health manager database model, have changed based on the comment, now working on the update health method 2015-02-11T20:03:45 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:04:13 Watching neutron-lbaas bork out on tox during neutron egg installation. 2015-02-11T20:04:16 So I've been working on the neutron lbaas v2 tempest tests, with franklin and carlos, and have essentially stalled my work on the octavia amphora api 2015-02-11T20:04:24 *** Longgeek has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:04:38 hi! 2015-02-11T20:04:44 HP guys may pick up work on the amphora api 2015-02-11T20:04:57 We (RS) may focus on a ssh-client/agent 2015-02-11T20:05:00 thing 2015-02-11T20:05:06 ok, sound sgood 2015-02-11T20:05:16 *** prad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:05:17 *** pnavarro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:05:25 atleast according to chats earlier. 2015-02-11T20:05:36 yeah, that's our intention ;-) 2015-02-11T20:05:42 ;) 2015-02-11T20:05:51 jorgem submitted another patch for the queue-consumer 2015-02-11T20:06:14 *** jorgem has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:06:19 *** nshah has left #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:06:22 xgerman: will yall take over the api spec bp sbalukoff started? 2015-02-11T20:06:29 well HP will for the REST API right? Someone here at Rax will probably do an SSH driver... as far as I recall 2015-02-11T20:06:30 yep, will do 2015-02-11T20:06:43 *** crc32 has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:07:29 o/ 2015-02-11T20:07:37 *** amrith is now known as _amrith_ 2015-02-11T20:07:48 assigned that spec to me for now 2015-02-11T20:08:01 s/spec/blueprint/ 2015-02-11T20:08:19 anything else? 2015-02-11T20:08:30 o/ 2015-02-11T20:08:38 moving on... 2015-02-11T20:08:43 #topic Demo Octavia in Neutron LBaaS Talk 2015-02-11T20:08:44 *** openstack changes topic to "Demo Octavia in Neutron LBaaS Talk (Meeting topic: Octavia)" 2015-02-11T20:09:08 *** spzala has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:09:11 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:09:28 so the plan is to have at least one neutron lbaas talk and in that talk we'll be demoing octavia 2015-02-11T20:09:52 exactly + and we are trying to pull together the missing puzzle pieces 2015-02-11T20:10:36 *** shwetaap has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:10:38 The pieces are: 2015-02-11T20:10:45 Amphora Driver 2015-02-11T20:10:45 Network Driver 2015-02-11T20:10:45 Deploy Worke 2015-02-11T20:10:48 *** crc32 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:10:59 dis we miss anyhting? 2015-02-11T20:11:06 how about compute driver? 2015-02-11T20:11:12 neutron lbaas driver 2015-02-11T20:11:24 or is that part of the deploy worker 2015-02-11T20:11:29 *** saurabhs has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:11:32 dougwig: +1 2015-02-11T20:11:33 sballe__ that one is already merged 2015-02-11T20:11:38 dougwig +1 2015-02-11T20:11:45 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:11:51 compute driver is pretty much done i think 2015-02-11T20:11:57 btu yeah forgota bout neutron lbaas driver 2015-02-11T20:11:58 xgerman: Are we only talking about he missing pieces? or all the pieces? 2015-02-11T20:12:04 missing 2015-02-11T20:12:21 ok thx 2015-02-11T20:12:30 *** pmalik has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:12:47 *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:12:50 so dougwig any progress on the neutron driver ? 2015-02-11T20:13:01 (it's your piece :-) 2015-02-11T20:13:24 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:13:27 i volunteered for the network driver for this, because phil and I have already dong a run through of neutron and nova calls to set up the appropriate plumbing 2015-02-11T20:13:33 none yet, i've been focused on the lbaas v2 stuff, flavors, and this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154736 2015-02-11T20:13:40 i will circle back to that driver shortly. 2015-02-11T20:14:24 dougwig ill run through what we've done manually if you want 2015-02-11T20:14:30 *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:15:57 let's take that offline 2015-02-11T20:16:22 sounds good 2015-02-11T20:16:43 *** yuanying-alt has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:16:55 johnsom + me will do deploy worker 2015-02-11T20:17:01 +1 2015-02-11T20:17:04 what 2015-02-11T20:17:09 I will be doing reviews! :) 2015-02-11T20:17:12 what's the timeframe on that you think? 2015-02-11T20:17:46 it's high on our list so the next few weeks 2015-02-11T20:17:53 Timeframe for controller worker code? 2015-02-11T20:17:55 What he said. 2015-02-11T20:18:11 xgerman: johnsom: correct 2015-02-11T20:18:12 I hope to have another WIP check in today. 2015-02-11T20:18:24 k I'll check it out. 2015-02-11T20:18:34 ditto on the review 2015-02-11T20:19:53 leaves the amphora driver -- 2015-02-11T20:20:05 Oh, you mean the amphora ssh driver? 2015-02-11T20:20:13 I think HP will try an API version whereas RAX will do the ssh driver 2015-02-11T20:20:24 TrevorV yes 2015-02-11T20:20:36 and i will make popcorn and side bets. 2015-02-11T20:20:42 I would put my name on that, but I'm not entirely sure when I can get to it (tempest testing and all that) 2015-02-11T20:21:11 *** yuanying-alt has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:21:14 eh dougwig already convinced me of the sense in using ssh 2015-02-11T20:21:27 wow. 2015-02-11T20:21:30 *** annashen has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:21:39 Alright, I'll take ownership of that one 2015-02-11T20:21:40 dougwig: +1 2015-02-11T20:21:57 dougwig: so no bets to be found here, I would think :P 2015-02-11T20:22:06 *** _nadya_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:22:12 i didn't say i wasn't rooting for one side. :) 2015-02-11T20:22:25 was just talking abput the popcorn 2015-02-11T20:22:27 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:22:41 sballe__: oh, heh. :) 2015-02-11T20:22:50 #agreed TrevorV will write ssh amphora driver 2015-02-11T20:23:06 #agreed HP will attempt REST based driver/agent 2015-02-11T20:23:25 *** SridharRamaswamy has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:23:47 how do we decide what solution we want to use in the demo? 2015-02-11T20:24:04 ;-) 2015-02-11T20:24:12 sballe_: Wait to see which one performs better or works in reality. 2015-02-11T20:24:17 sballe__: that's a problem that i'd love to have. 2015-02-11T20:24:25 let's get there first. 2015-02-11T20:24:25 dougwig: ;-) 2015-02-11T20:25:27 Theyll both work, i was under the assumption that the ssh driver we were going to work on to get done quick to get our point and this demo across 2015-02-11T20:25:39 so. Is paramiko still a good idea these days or is something better out there now? 2015-02-11T20:25:42 yep, that wa smy impression as well 2015-02-11T20:25:42 *** dprince has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:25:48 the rest api will require more devlopment and a concensus of the contract amongst other things 2015-02-11T20:26:14 ptoohill +1 2015-02-11T20:26:23 we likely need to iterate 2015-02-11T20:26:38 indeed 2015-02-11T20:26:46 paramiko bleh 2015-02-11T20:26:52 I'm kinda burnt out on Rest APIs now. specially sense this isn't something that is customer facing. 2015-02-11T20:26:54 crc32: paramiko or just popen('ssh ' + foo) 2015-02-11T20:27:14 popen is super ugly <_< 2015-02-11T20:27:23 *** EricGonczer_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:27:26 paramiko would have to be REALLY bad 2015-02-11T20:27:35 but I feel like this is getting off-topic 2015-02-11T20:27:48 At the very least let us use paramiko. I'm not in the mood for STDIN STDOUT parsing and mangling. 2015-02-11T20:27:56 +1 2015-02-11T20:27:59 eh, wrap it once, hide the ugly. example (not claiming it's not ugly, though): https://github.com/a10networks/neutron-thirdparty-ci/blob/master/ax/ax_ssh.py 2015-02-11T20:28:05 good thing I'll be working on it then, eh crc32 ? 2015-02-11T20:28:14 yea the wrapper is called Paramiko. 2015-02-11T20:28:40 maybe there is an oslo version 2015-02-11T20:28:41 just use whatever, its going to just be simple and if people want to improve upon it go ahead 2015-02-11T20:28:53 no, paramiko is a pure python implementation. it's much slower. but i don't think that matters at all here. 2015-02-11T20:28:55 *** pkoniszewski has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:29:15 yep + long term I expect us to use an agent on the amphora 2015-02-11T20:29:22 *** tdruiva has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:29:22 Alright, since its my task for the amphora driver I'll sort out the logistics later, kk? We can move on at this point :P 2015-02-11T20:29:45 #topic Open Discussion 2015-02-11T20:29:46 *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" 2015-02-11T20:29:54 since it's open, we can bring up ssh again. 2015-02-11T20:29:55 jk 2015-02-11T20:29:58 *** tdruiva has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:30:04 * xgerman hides 2015-02-11T20:31:42 dougwig you have the etherpad links for the Vancouber talks 2015-02-11T20:31:44 ? 2015-02-11T20:32:04 dangit, forgot that. one sec, i'll create and post a link here or in lbaas channel 2015-02-11T20:32:14 great 2015-02-11T20:32:29 dougwig could I steel your attention later for some reviews 2015-02-11T20:32:47 also regarding Vancouver - are we trying to do something in the design summit? 2015-02-11T20:32:48 ^ steal 2015-02-11T20:33:09 *** mcginn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:33:30 *** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa 2015-02-11T20:33:43 i woudl like to 2015-02-11T20:33:57 me, too - so 2015-02-11T20:33:59 *** tdruiva_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:34:02 for octavia? 2015-02-11T20:34:03 *** tdruiva has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:34:04 or for neutron-lbaas 2015-02-11T20:34:13 i mean both kind of need one 2015-02-11T20:34:14 *** crc32 has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:34:19 yep 2015-02-11T20:34:21 Agreed 2015-02-11T20:34:22 *** amotoki has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:34:31 *** tdruiva_ is now known as tdruiva 2015-02-11T20:34:40 #action find out to get Octavia and Neutron LBaaS into the design summit 2015-02-11T20:34:49 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-vancouver-talks 2015-02-11T20:34:59 i'll get talk outlines added there as well. 2015-02-11T20:35:27 dougwig so johnso, jorgem, na dme need our won talk? 2015-02-11T20:35:33 what contentious stuff do we have that needs the entire community? 2015-02-11T20:35:51 *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:35:59 xgerman: i can barely parse that sentence, but those speaker lists are far from final. 2015-02-11T20:36:02 xgerman: eh? lol 2015-02-11T20:36:15 *** achanda has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:36:22 well, last time we said johnsom, jorgem, and I would like to talk, too 2015-02-11T20:36:33 so reading that we need a third talk ;-)]\ 2015-02-11T20:36:40 everyone is welcome to add their feedback, requests, new speakers, etc, there, and then we can talk about what makes sense. i just had to get the slots submitted by monday. 2015-02-11T20:36:54 *** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus24 2015-02-11T20:36:55 we need to be careful with too many speakers on the talks. it gets confusing. Should we do a panel with more companies represented? 2015-02-11T20:37:03 xgerman: that was for a standalone octavia talk, which i didn't submit. did stephen send that? 2015-02-11T20:37:10 nope 2015-02-11T20:37:30 i doubt it would have been accepted anywya, no one knows what octavia is yet 2015-02-11T20:38:22 Who is Sam? 2015-02-11T20:38:27 Radware 2015-02-11T20:38:29 *** stamak has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:38:41 nothing says we can't fold some or all of those folks into the octavia part of the lbaas talk. note it in the etherpad, and we can talk about what makes sense. 2015-02-11T20:39:05 *** ashleighfarnham has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:39:11 The talk is 20 minute right? or is it longer> 2015-02-11T20:39:26 40 minutes. 2015-02-11T20:39:38 5 minutes for qa, 10 for demo, the rest for talking. ish. 2015-02-11T20:41:40 btw, i'm not dead set on being a speaker, either. please give your feedback on the etherpad. 2015-02-11T20:41:48 dougwig, didn't you ask me for my openstack details for a talk or was that for something else? 2015-02-11T20:41:59 *** shwetaap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:42:14 well, so we lock in on those two talks or are we trying to submit an Octavia talk as well? 2015-02-11T20:42:20 Maybe it was Stephen 2015-02-11T20:42:22 i was testing the speaker submissions, but ended up not being the octavia submitter. 2015-02-11T20:42:27 dougwig: I think one person from each company makes sense to me. 2015-02-11T20:42:49 +1 sballe__ 2015-02-11T20:42:56 +1 2015-02-11T20:44:07 *** pkoniszewski has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:44:13 +1 2015-02-11T20:44:29 +1 2015-02-11T20:44:30 let's put our feedback into the etherpad, and circle back next week? my apologies if anyone feels left out; i think he octavia half got lost in the transition shuffle, and I never considered the current submissions final. 2015-02-11T20:44:39 *** baoli_ has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:44:56 Sounds good 2015-02-11T20:45:01 dougwig: no problem. 2015-02-11T20:45:01 i mean, i agree that it seems unlikely Octavia talks would get accepted, since it's still Stackforge and relatively unknown 2015-02-11T20:45:24 rm_work - and HP was ready to run a super bowl ad foer it 2015-02-11T20:45:30 heh 2015-02-11T20:45:36 that would have been awesome :P 2015-02-11T20:45:36 We could submit the octavia talk as a brownbag or whatever they call the 10 mins talks 2015-02-11T20:45:44 the submission deadline was this last monday. 2015-02-11T20:45:47 yeah I assume that'd be where we'd fit 2015-02-11T20:45:57 so if we don't have a placeholder in there, i think that ship has sailed. 2015-02-11T20:46:00 brownbag submissions are much later I thought? 2015-02-11T20:46:13 i meant for the conference talks 2015-02-11T20:46:17 yes They are after the people have voted on the talks 2015-02-11T20:46:19 or "lightning talks" or whatever they are called in the Openstack world 2015-02-11T20:46:22 yeah 2015-02-11T20:46:40 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:46:53 *** atiwari has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:47:03 let's do that 2015-02-11T20:47:12 and people don;t vote on lighting talks so we can submit more than one and they will be accepted ;-) 2015-02-11T20:47:13 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:48:26 *** emagana has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:48:42 *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:49:20 so who is taking the action item to submit that talk 2015-02-11T20:49:23 ? 2015-02-11T20:50:00 Did you agree on the list of speakers? 2015-02-11T20:50:44 I was talking brownbag - I am really afraid things fall again through cracks 2015-02-11T20:51:12 I agree but one of the speakers will have to submit the talk and not random peopel 2015-02-11T20:51:45 one of the speakers of an accepted talk has to submit it? 2015-02-11T20:51:50 eh, it's pretty fluid, actually. any speaker can add or remove others, so you can bootstrap it. 2015-02-11T20:52:21 *** stamak has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:52:59 I was talking about speakers for the brownbag. never mind. 2015-02-11T20:53:28 ok, I will try to keep an eye on that deadline 2015-02-11T20:54:19 i'd suggest we add design session topics in the same etherpad. 2015-02-11T20:54:22 if any 2015-02-11T20:54:26 *** wbrothers has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:54:26 +q 2015-02-11T20:54:30 +1 2015-02-11T20:54:30 +1 ;-) 2015-02-11T20:54:42 *** juzuluag has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:54:43 *** ajo has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:55:17 *** marcusvrn2 has quit IRC 2015-02-11T20:55:26 we have 5 minutes left... 2015-02-11T20:55:35 *** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt 2015-02-11T20:55:41 (in case we have other topics :-) 2015-02-11T20:56:30 the beauty of ssh and ruby! 2015-02-11T20:56:38 sorry, in a weird mood today. :) 2015-02-11T20:56:42 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-vancouver-talks 2015-02-11T20:56:56 pretty ruby... 2015-02-11T20:56:59 Gem stones? 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