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sajeeshhi13:57
sajeeshtesting13:57
markus_zsajeesh: hi13:58
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bauzassupernova14:00
alaski#startmeeting Nova14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 11 14:00:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:00
gilliardHello!14:00
alaskiping mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcook ekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 raildo jaypipes gilliard garyk14:00
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bauzas\o14:00
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kaisers1o/14:00
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garykack14:00
alaskiHi everyone!14:00
sajeeshhi all14:01
oomichihi14:01
alaski#topic Kilo Specs14:01
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alaskiTwo reminders14:01
alaskiTomorrow is a spec review day14:01
bauzas_o/14:01
bauzas\o/14:01
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alaskiso please take some time to review what you can14:02
garykalaski: is there a list of specs that have higher priorities, or should we just go ahead an review what we can?14:02
alaskiAnd the spec approval deadline is December 18th14:02
bauzasmaybe mentioning priorities would be worth it ?14:02
bauzasfor spec reviewal ?14:02
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alaskiThere are some priorities at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking14:02
garykif that had links to relevant specs then it would be a nice optimization for our time14:03
bauzasgaryk: some subteams did, some not14:03
alaskiThere are some links there, but priority owners should double check that before tomorrow14:03
garykcool14:03
bauzas+114:03
ramineni1hi , have a question on spec reviews. can i ask now?14:03
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garyksure, please go ahead14:04
alaskiramineni1: if it's about the process sure.  if it's about a specific spec we have a slot for that14:04
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ramineni1alaski: its about specifc spec, will wait for that.thanks14:04
alaskicool14:04
alaskiAlso a reminder that the feature freeze for non-priority spec work is February 5th14:05
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bauzasalaski: FPF ?14:05
bauzasalaski: or Feature Freeze ?14:05
sdaguefeaure freeze14:05
alaskiDoes anyone have any specs looking for fast track approval?14:05
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alaskiyes, feature freeze14:06
bauzasack14:06
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bauzasalaski: should we bother you with links to specs having one +2 ?14:06
garykalaski: i am not sure if this is a candidate - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127283/6/specs/kilo/approved/vmware-webmks-console.rst14:06
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alaskibauzas: maybe bring it up under stuck reviews, or open discussion14:07
alaskigaryk: looking real quick14:07
alaskiIt mentions adding a new API so my first inclination is no14:07
bauzasalaski: yeah, I asked that because of your previous comment about fast track approval14:07
alaskibauzas: my bad.  I meant fast track re-approval14:08
alaskiAlso spec free blueprint candidates14:08
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garykalaski: in that case it is not relevant. tx14:08
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alaskigaryk: ok14:09
alaski#topic Kilo priorities14:09
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alaskiA reminder that they can be found at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities14:09
alaskiAnd open reviews for the priorites can be found at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking14:10
jmulsow#alaski: we could use some reviews on the server group remove spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136487/14:10
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alaskiPriority owners please look over the open reviews listed and try to have them updated for the spec review day tomorrow, and just updated in general14:11
alaskijmulsow: ok.  You can bring it to open discussion or bring it up during the review day tomorrow14:11
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bauzasalaski: most of the owners are not there now, should we maybe put them an action item ?14:11
bauzasdamn time differences, everyone should be CET time14:11
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alaskibauzas: heh.  How about I send a response to the spec day email reminding people?14:12
bauzasalaski: sounds a good plan14:12
garykalaski: mikal sent a mail to the list earlier14:12
garykbut a friendly reminder would be great14:12
bauzassajeesh: you can't add a priority in the list, I'm sorry :(14:13
alaski#action alaski send email reminding priority owners to update the list of reviews14:13
sajeeshok...I was not knowing ..sorry14:13
alaski#topic Gate status14:13
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alaskiDoes anyone have updates for this?14:14
garykfrom the MS side things are up and running again (we had a few days of down time)14:14
gilliardGate's been OK although specs have needed a spurious rebase14:14
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alaskigilliard: I just hit that on one of mine too14:14
bauzasalaski: the categorization gate sounds quite good (>80%)14:14
gilliardI've seen two which needed a post-approve rebase, yeah. So just keep an eye out, I suppose.14:14
alaskidansmith: welcome14:14
bauzass/gate/ratio14:14
alaskigreat14:15
bauzasgilliard: there are some running bugs that can impact you14:15
alaskisounds like things are generally ok right now then14:15
alaskiso we'll move on14:16
alaski#topic Bugs14:16
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kashyapHi14:16
alaskiAnything in particular we should look at?14:16
kashyapThis is about the live snapshot bug in Nova - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/133439814:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1334398 in nova "libvirt live_snapshot periodically explodes on libvirt 1.2.2 in the gate" [High,Confirmed]14:16
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kashyapQuick context: This bug is rarely reproducible, only in the context of gate, if someone can get this reproduced in Gate somehow it'd be very useful.14:17
sdaguecburgess was going to take another spin at that14:17
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kashyapGreat, and since I have the context, and test with that path enabled in my test env, if we can get a traceback of QEMU via gdb, I ca follow up with the right QEMU block layer developers.14:17
sdaguekashyap: sounds great14:18
kashyapsdague, What time zone cburgess lives in?14:18
sdagueUTC-814:19
alaskigreat, it would be really nice to get further on that one14:19
kashyapalaski, Yes, it's about time, just that it's not 'fun' to get to the end of it - but it ought to be done.14:19
dansmithI'm in UTC-8 and *I* am up, what's cburgess' excuse?14:20
alaskiyeah, it's really hard to debug something you can't reproduce reliably14:20
sdaguealaski: ... like all of openstack :)14:20
alaskisdague: heh, quite true14:20
kashyapdansmith, If we can get a QEMU instance with gdb enabled, and reproduce that bug, then we'll have the root cause of that issue - most likely14:20
alaskiAny other bugs we should mention?14:20
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garykone question on bugs?14:21
alaskisure14:21
garykdo we know how many we clsoe a week and how many are opened?14:21
garykthat is, at this stage it seems people are working on new features, specs etc. should we bne more focussed on bugs?14:21
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alaskigood question.  I don't have those numbers though14:22
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n0anogaryk there's a bug tracking page I intend to look into, with some history we can extract that info14:22
alaskiI think we could always be more focused on bugs, but keep in mind we're doing feature freeze earlier this cycle so we can spend more time on bugs14:23
n0anogive me the stats we want and I can make sure they are available14:23
garykah, that sounds good.14:23
gilliardThe Wednesday bug day seems to have a good effect http://status.openstack.org/bugday/14:23
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alaski#link http://status.openstack.org/bugday/14:24
sdaguegilliard: yeh, we should probably advertise it more.14:24
alaskigreat page14:24
garykyikes, soon we are hitting 1K != 102414:24
pawel-paluckii am definitely on spending more time on bugs14:24
sdaguegaryk: we were 1600 in Aug14:24
kashyapsdague, Probably should be done on #openstack-nova channel itself,14:24
dansmithit is14:24
kashyapSo others can see the 'context/theme of the day'14:24
alaskikashyap: it is14:24
dansmithwe change the topic every wednesday14:24
kashyapOkay, then probably I missed due to my tz :)14:24
alaskidansmith: is the designated banner waver for that14:24
bauzasI would suggest an email rather14:25
dansmithwe change it when it's wednesday in .au,14:25
dansmithand then back just now14:25
dansmithso I think everyone should have seen it14:25
bauzasbecause apparently most of the people don't usually read chan topic14:25
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sdaguethis was an interesting one that came in this morning - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1401437 - about how we call between services14:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401437 in nova "nova passes incorrect authentication info to cinderclient" [High,Confirmed]14:26
alaski#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/140143714:26
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alaskithat doesn't look good14:27
sdagueyeh, it's part of the larger token scoping problems14:28
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sdagueabout when tokens run out, how do long running actions actually complete14:28
mriedemoh fun i saw that one internally 2 weeks ago, at least he followed up with the LP report14:28
alaskidoes this change with the new keystoneclient session work?14:28
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sdagueI don't know14:29
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alaskiokay14:29
bauzassdague: IIRC, Heat doesn't do this way, but rather takes impersonated tokens14:29
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alaskiIf anyone can take a look at that one and help move it along, please do14:29
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bauzassdague: so there is a change in how they expire14:30
sdaguebauzas: gotcha14:30
garyki wonder if we need a common layer which manages all of the different clients - but that may be complicated due to the fact that each service has it own way of doing things14:30
bauzassdague: but that's really unclear in my head, still need to remember what I was looking one year ago14:30
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sdaguegaryk: that's sor t of the point of keystone sessions14:30
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sdagueanyway, we can move on14:30
mriedemthere were also service tokens14:30
mriedemor am i thinking trusts? too many keystone features i've never used.14:31
mriedembknudson would know14:31
alaskiokay, moving on14:31
bauzasmriedem: trusts do the job, that's what I call impersonated tokens14:31
alaskibut please add to the bug review with assistance14:31
alaski#topic Stuck reviews14:31
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sajeeshalaski: Can I ask help regarding my bp  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129420. I am afraid that things are still in loop14:31
alaskiPacemaker service group driver -- what level of CI do we require given that we have poor CI coverage of other drivers (such as zookeeper)?14:31
_gryfyeah14:31
alaskisajeesh: okay, we'll tackle that first14:32
_gryfso there was mine BP about new driver for servicegroup14:32
sajeeshok,thanks14:32
alaski_gryf: sorry, can we hold off one minute?14:32
_gryfsure14:32
bauzasalaski: oh14:32
bauzasalaski: yeah, I remember that spec14:32
alaskisajeesh: is there a particular concern that shoudl be brought up?14:32
bauzasalaski: so the problem is that it requires a specific setup for Pacemaker14:33
sajeeshnested projects has been already implemented in keystone14:33
raildoalaski, I'm develop the Hierarchical Multitenancy implementation in Keystone for kilo and this sajeesh implementation about nested projects Quota management, will be very useful for Us14:33
bauzasoh, missed the ping from alaski about sajeesh's BP14:33
raildo:)14:33
sajeesh++114:33
alaskisajeesh: does this just need more visibility?  or is there something contentious that could use resolution?14:34
sajeeshI think more visibility is requierd14:34
alaskiokay14:34
alaski#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12942014:35
sajeeshalaski,I am afraid that things are still in loop14:35
raildowe have all patches about the HM base implementation merged to kilo-1, so if we can have something like Hierarchical Quotas to work with this implementation in Kilo, will be great14:35
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alaskireviewers please have a look14:35
alaskisajeesh: you might want to bring this up in the Nova channel tomorrow during review day14:35
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sajeeshalaski:yes14:35
raildoalaski, the other problem is about the bp don't have a milestone target. how we can work with this?14:35
raildo#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api14:35
alaskiraildo: the spec needs to be approved before that can be set14:36
raildoalaski, great :)14:36
alaski_gryf: back to you14:36
sajeeshalaski:what should I do from my part?14:36
_gryfso. during reviewing my bp, in case of tests that was revealed that there is no tempest coverage for other drivers than db14:36
raildoalaski, I'll contribute reviewing other nova spec and patches too. Thanks a lot!14:37
bauzas_gryf: yeah indeed14:37
alaskisajeesh: hopefully just respond to review comments, and bring it up tomorrow14:37
kaisers1quick newbie question: a spec needs two +2 for acceptance, right?14:37
sdague_gryf: so we don't actually need tempest tests here14:37
bauzas_gryf: but that's not a good reason for adding a new one14:37
alaskikaisers1: yes14:37
sajeeshalaski:thanks a lot :-)14:37
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kaisers1alaski: thnx14:37
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alaskisajeesh: kaisers1 np14:37
_gryfbauzas: hm14:37
sdaguefor instance, zookeeper actually has unit tests in tree... but the configuration of zookeeper on the unit tests nodes is missing14:37
bauzas_gryf: actually, I'm more concerned about what kind of setup would require this driver14:37
sdaguebut that's a thing we can do14:37
_gryfbauzas: so is it good reason for not adding tempest tests, or good reason to not adding another servicegroup driver?14:38
_gryfbauzas: in case of my bp - you're right14:38
bauzas_gryf: I'm saying we first need to understand what's behind the scene for the Pacemaker driver, rather than talking about CI now :)14:38
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_gryfbauzas: it may be difficult for creating reasonable tests for the pacemaker14:39
bauzas_gryf: and depending on what it would be provided, Tempest tests could be necessary or not - but I don't know if that's really important14:39
bauzas_gryf: I mean, that's not a new public API, neither a CLI command14:39
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_gryfbauzas: since more i'm digging in the pacemaker itself, more i'm convinced that this is bad idea14:39
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_gryfsince the implementation will have lots of calls for pacemakers tools14:40
bauzas_gryf: so we would rather do functional testing directly in Nova14:40
bauzas_gryf: so I think the spec is not stuck - I just need more details :)14:40
bauzas_gryf: I saw you commented back, I have to look again14:40
_gryfbauzas: yeah14:41
alaskiit sounds like for now it might be okay to go with just in-tree tests14:41
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sdaguecan someone post the spec url for this? I seem to have missed it14:41
alaskibut it would be good to get zookeeper fully tested, and anything new like this should be fully tested as well14:41
bauzasalaski: yeah, but as I said, that's not a problem of where to test14:41
_gryfbauzas: but i what i understand what mikal says, was there is no other infra for testing other plugins aswell14:41
alaskisdague: it's not on the agenda, so I don't have the link either...14:41
bauzasalaski: the spec is requiring a specific Pacemaker setup, hence my wonders14:41
bauzaslemme find it14:42
bauzashttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/139991/14:42
bauzas#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139991/14:42
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bauzasanyway, I think it's really requiring more details, that's not really a stuck spec14:43
alaskithanks14:43
alaskiyeah, it doesn't look stuck, but it could use some discussion14:43
_gryfbauzas: ok, thanks.14:43
_gryfalaski: indeed :)14:43
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alaskiI think we can just comment on the review for now, and get to a ML post or bring it back here if necessary14:44
bauzas+114:44
alaskinext up14:44
alaskiNeutron API -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/14:44
alaskito me this looks stuck waiting for the proposer14:45
gilliardYes, I added this. What do people think about this? It hasn't moved for a while but I get the sense that it's blocking bugfixes etc in that area14:45
gilliardbecause everything's so hard to review14:45
garykalaski: yes, it looks like it is waiting for him.14:45
garykthere are actually quite a lot of review in the neutron api file at the moment14:45
alaskidoes someone want to reach out and see about taking this over?14:45
garyki am not sure if these are getting enough eyes.14:45
gilliardeg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135260/ eg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126309/14:46
garykalaski: i would be happy to take this over, but would need to check with beagles14:46
gilliardthanks garyk it would be really helpful to see this move.  I'm happy to help with the implementation.14:47
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lxslisame14:47
garykgilliard: i will reach out to him and see what his situation is.14:47
alaskigaryk: cool.  maybe just see if he's still working on this first, but it would be nice for someone to help move this forward14:47
garykalaski: sure, will do14:47
alaskithanks14:47
sdaguealso, realize, it's totally fair to take over someone's patch and rebase it for them if it's stuck in merge conflict14:48
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mriedemthat's not the issue14:48
mriedembeagles hasn't been replying14:48
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sdaguethat's the issue with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126309/ that gilliard posted14:48
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sdaguesorry, was on the wrong piece of the thread :)14:49
gilliardsdague: right - I meant that as just an example of a bugfix which is going slowly and would be easier to review if the work in the spec has been started.14:49
alaskiheh, it's a good reminder though14:49
sdaguegotcha14:49
alaskialright, next up...14:49
alaskiHost health monitoring (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137768/3) -- does Nova should provide information on the host condition, and how?14:49
_gryfalaski: ok, sorry, i've putted it in wrong section. should be in open discussion.14:50
mriedemgilliard: the spec isn't holding up neutron api reviews, the neutron api just holds itself up :)14:50
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mriedemhence the spec14:50
gilliard:)14:50
alaski_gryf: no worries14:50
_gryfalaski: :)14:50
bauzas_gryf: I missed that spec, I left a quick comment14:50
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alaskiI'm not convinced that host health monitoring is stuck either14:50
bauzasalaski: +114:50
alaskibut it could use some more voices on the review14:50
bauzasI actually have one stuck spec :)14:50
kaisers1more newbie questions: 'stuck' is a review that has one or more -1 and hasn't changed over a longer time?14:50
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bauzas#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893/ is having -2 because of a previous PS and needs -Code-Review14:51
mriedemkaisers1: stuck could mean there is contention/gridlock and needs broader consensus14:51
alaskistuck means it's not possible to make progress on it, and has been around for a while14:51
bauzasbut john is traveling these days14:51
kaisers1ok, thnx again14:51
bauzasso I'm a little worried of loosing benefits of the specs day if there is still a -2 against it, while it shouldn't :)14:52
_gryfalaski: I think the title says it all. What do people think about putting such information in the nova?14:52
sdaguehow long is john out? If we really need to we can get infra to reset a vote14:52
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bauzasalaski: so if you have magic power for removing this -2,it would be awesome14:52
alaskibauzas: he should be back in tomorrow I believe14:52
alaskibauzas: I do not :)14:52
alaskisdague: he's traveling back home today14:52
sdaguebauzas: no, it's a direct database op to do that14:52
bauzasinternal email is considered as magic power14:52
bauzas:)14:52
bauzassdague: yeah I know14:53
alaskibauzas: I can ping him internally, and will do that14:53
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bauzasalaski: great thanks14:53
bauzasalaski: again it's just a matter of not loosing the spec review day14:53
alaskibauzas: definitely14:53
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alaski#open discussion14:53
bauzasalaski: I really understand that John can be a busy guy14:53
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alaskiramineni1: you have something to bring up?14:54
alaski#topic open discussion14:54
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ramineni1ya :) need more reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136104/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133534/ . Have one +2 on both of these and code changes are small for both the specs.14:54
alaskiheh14:54
ramineni1can these be targeted for kilo-1?14:54
garykramineni1: asking for reviews moves you to the back of the queue :)14:54
alaskiramineni1: they get a target after the spec is approved14:54
sdagueat last check oomichi has got all of tempest passing on V2.114:54
* gilliard backspaces over a review request14:54
sdaguewe have a job which configures devstack with v2.1 on the v2 endpoint, and it's now working14:55
alaskisdague: awesome!14:55
garyksdague: thats great!14:55
mriedemsdague: is that on experimental queue?14:55
mriedemor all patches?14:55
sdaguemriedem: yes14:55
mriedemk14:55
sdagueit's in experimental14:55
garykkudos oomichi14:55
oomichiyeah, and I hope it will be non-experimental soon.14:55
alaskiwas just about to ask.  is there a plan for moving it out of experimental14:56
alaskijust the standard "let it bake"?14:56
bauzasoomichi: could you maybe put some notes about microversions in devref ?14:56
bauzasoomichi: just to be clear for reviewing14:56
sdaguewell microversions infrastructure is still merging14:56
bauzassdague: ok, so 2.1 only ? gotcha14:57
bauzasthat's still a big deal tho eh :)14:57
oomichibauzas: sorry, I am not sure that. I'd like to talk about it later.14:57
bauzasoomichi: sure, ping me at the end of the meeting14:57
oomichibauzas: i got it.14:57
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alaskianything else open?14:58
gilliardmriedem brought up ssl config last week. I put a POC here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139672/ any feedback welcome :)14:58
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alaskidid you send an email to the ML with that?14:59
gilliardI believe so, yes14:59
alaskicool14:59
garyki am sorry but i need to run. have a good weekend14:59
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mateuszbDo you know if there is a plan to get rid of cells-scheduler? I am just wondering how the requirement of this bp could be met using current nova-scheduler: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140031/14:59
ramineni1alaski: the specs proposed are useful for ironic .. is there anything I could do , i'm not usre about the blocker on the specs14:59
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mriedemgilliard: yeah, thanks, i'm way behind on reviews, have some other stuff to get done first then i hope to grind on reviews15:00
gilliardnp15:00
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alaskiramineni1: we're going to be tackling a lot of spec reviews tomorrow, bring the specs to the nova channel tomorrow15:00
bauzasmateuszb: hi, let's discuss that in #openstack-nova if you want15:00
alaskiI don't have the power of early marks, so we have to end on time15:00
ramineni1alaski: sure, thanks, will do that :)15:00
alaski#endmeeting15:00
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alaskiThanks everyone!15:01
mriedemalaski: thanks - you're the new project manager!15:01
gilliardThanks alaski15:01
_gryfthanks15:01
mateuszbbauzas: ok, i will switch to #openstack-nova15:01
bswartz#startmeeting manila15:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
bswartzhello folks15:01
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lpabonhi15:01
xyang1Hi15:01
vponomaryovhello15:01
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vvechkanovhello15:01
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u_glidehi15:01
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:01
toabctlhi15:01
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bswartz#topic dev status15:02
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vponomaryovdev status:15:02
bswartzlet's start with a status update15:02
vponomaryov1) Driver modes:15:02
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vponomaryovBP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/driver-modes15:02
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vponomaryovstatus: interface implementation ready for review, generic driver single svm is in progress15:03
vponomaryov2) Network helpers15:03
vponomaryovBP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/network-helper15:03
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vponomaryovstatus: work in progress15:03
vponomaryov3) Manage/unmanage shares and share-servers15:03
vponomaryovBP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manage-shares15:03
vponomaryovstatus: drafting15:03
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tbarronhi15:04
vponomaryovthats the main15:04
bswartzvponomaryov: ty15:04
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bswartzI did a review on (1) yesterday and found some issues15:04
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vponomaryovbswartz: I posted questions according to it15:04
bswartzone that may be interesting to the group I the question of 3 driver modes vs 215:05
bswartzso in Paris I prorposed 3 modes -- single_svm, flat_multi_svm, managed_multi_svm15:05
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bswartzIt's been pointed out that flat_multi_svm can be implemented as a special case of managed_multi_svm, and thus we might be better off collapsing the 2 modes into 115:06
bswartzso we would only have single_svm and multi_svm15:06
vponomaryovand multi_svm is going to have more than two (2) cases15:06
vponomaryovflat and all networking segmentation15:06
bswartzyeah, with multi_svm, the network helper is going to have to specify the encapsulation type, which could be anything from a long list15:06
bswartzif we add "None" as an encapsulation, that accounts for the flat case15:07
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bswartzMy plan is to update the BP and try to move forward with only 2 modes15:07
bswartzhopefully that will make everyone's brain hurt less too :-)15:07
vponomaryovanother question according to it, how many modes are allowed at a time?15:08
xyang1That will be good.  I was confused:)15:08
bswartzvponomaryov: I will reply to the email you sent as soon as I get a chance15:08
bswartzvponomaryov: regarding modes -- each backend must have exactly 1 mode15:08
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bswartzdrivers can support 1 or 2 modes, but the admin must pick exactly 115:09
vponomaryovbswartz: why?15:09
bswartzif the driver only supports 1 mode then I think it's okay to not specify anything15:09
vponomaryovIndeed, drivers can support all at a time15:10
vponomaryovwhy such restriction?15:10
bswartzbecause the interaction between the manager, the driver, and the helper is very different depending on which mode is used15:10
vponomaryovit will be implemented anyway15:10
bswartzso we discussed a single mode in paris15:11
bswartzif you think there's a way to support 2 at the same time then that's a new idea15:11
bswartzI'm open to discussing it15:11
toabctlvponomaryov: who should/could in your opinion select the mode if not done per driver?15:11
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vponomaryovtoabctl: admin can change it using config option15:12
bswartzI suspect that the correct way to handle both modes at the same time would be to run 2 backends15:12
vponomaryovbswartz: code will be the same15:12
vponomaryovone of drivers from gerrit already allows both cases15:12
vponomaryovdue to absense of driver modes in Manila it just uses internal approach15:13
bswartzvponomaryov: which driver15:13
vponomaryovHP 3PAR15:13
vponomaryovwritten by Mark Sturdevant15:13
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bswartzokay, I'll take a look at it15:14
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bswartzI'd like to take the question of supporting both driver modes offline though because driver modes aren't going to land in K-1 it looks like15:14
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bswartzif we have time at the end of the meeting lets come back to it15:14
vponomaryovbswartz: generic part unlikely, but interface very likely15:15
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vponomaryovit depends on our agrremnt of idea15:15
vponomaryov#link https://review.openstack.org/13671415:16
bswartzokay then it's urgent that we make a decision15:16
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bswartzI will make that my top priority15:16
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bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139850/15:17
bswartz^ this too15:17
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bswartzI'm very curious how 2 modes could be supported at the same time -- especially when we have the share server logic outside the driver like we currently do15:18
vponomaryov bswartz: depending on provided data15:18
bswartzthe main difference between the 2 modes is supposed to be that the share server doesn't get created in the single_svm mode15:18
vponomaryovno share-network - single, with share-network - multi15:18
bswartzhmm15:18
bswartzokay15:19
bswartzI will review it15:19
bswartzany other questions before we move on?15:19
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bswartz#topic Kilo-1 milestone review15:19
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bswartz#link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-115:19
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bswartzso k-1 is just a week away15:19
bswartzand we have all kinds of bugs/BPs with no assignee and little/no progress15:20
bswartzI've already pushed out several that I knew were not going to happen15:20
bswartzbut I'd like some help with the rest15:20
vponomaryovbswartz:  I have updated several as well15:20
bswartzplease take a look at the above link everyone, and I'll list the ones I have questions about15:21
bswartzAdministrator configurable network helper needs an owner15:21
bswartzvponomaryov: do you know who that is?15:21
vponomaryovbswartz: our team but not someone specific15:21
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vponomaryovbswartz:  I can set myself for placeholder15:22
bswartzis it okay if I put vvechkanov?15:22
vponomaryovok15:22
bswartzI think that one needs to go to k-2 -- any disagreements?15:23
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bswartzokay15:23
bswartzGateway mediated networking model with NFS-Ganesha15:23
bswartzcsaba: you here?15:23
Guest98108yep15:24
bswartzhello Guest98108!15:24
lpabonthat's a weird name :-)15:24
Guest98108sorry15:24
bswartzby any chance is that one ready?15:24
vponomaryov=)15:24
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csababswartz: its ready review is going on15:24
bswartzthe BP has some TODO listed15:25
bswartzare you delivering it in phases?15:25
csabaoh ill update the bp15:25
bswartzoh okay15:25
bswartzwe will leave that one in15:26
csabathose are actually done15:26
csabajust the bp needs some love ...15:26
bswartzEnhance share manager with share server creation15:26
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bswartzthis one has a bunch of -115:26
bswartzis it going to get a new patchset?15:27
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bswartzvvechkanov: this one's in your name15:27
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bswartzit's low priority so we can push to k-215:27
vvechkanovbswartz: ok15:28
bswartzvvechkanov: ?15:28
bswartzvvechkanov: are you going to update it soon or do we push it out?15:28
vvechkanovbswarts: sorry for long typing)15:28
vvechkanovbswarts: Let's push it to kilo-215:29
bswartzty15:29
bswartzHP 3PAR File Persona Driver for Manila15:29
bswartzLooks like this needs to be set to Needs Code Review15:29
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bswartzOracle ZFSSA Manila Driver15:30
bswartzI see some -1 on this driver15:30
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bswartzdiemt: actively working on this?15:30
vponomaryovbswartz: I think it is kilo-215:30
bswartzI think I agree, but if diemt is here I'd like to here from him15:31
bswartzs/here/hear/15:31
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bswartzNetApp cDOT Driver Extension Mechanism15:32
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bswartzthis one looks ready15:32
bswartzwe can leave it targetted15:33
vponomaryovbswartz: week will be enough15:33
vponomaryovI think15:33
bswartzwe will see15:33
bswartzI'm going to ask people to prioritize high priority BPs over low priority when doing reviews15:33
xyang1bswartz: There is also a huawei driver being reviewed but not on the k-1 list.  Bp is not targeted. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/huawei-manila-driver15:33
bswartzif it's not already in k-1, then I'd rather just target it to k-215:34
bswartzI see the patchset there15:34
xyang1That is fine.  It doesn't have a milestone target15:35
* bswartz realizes he's pretty far behind on reviews15:35
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bswartzokay that one is updated15:35
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bswartzEnhance devstack plugin15:36
bswartzvponomaryov: this one's yours15:36
bswartzis it happening?15:36
vponomaryovbswartz: I going to fit kilo-115:36
bswartzthe code is in WIP state...15:36
vponomaryovbswartz: minor stuff left15:36
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vponomaryovin general it can be reviewed15:37
bswartzokay I'll leave it15:37
vponomaryovI will update it soon15:37
bswartzokay that's it for BPs15:37
bswartzthere are 5 left unfinished and targetted for k-115:37
bswartzplease priority the High priority ones over the Low priority ones when doing reviews -- but let's aim to get them all merged15:38
bswartznow there are several bugs15:38
bswartz#1348635 manila has modules that is not covered with unittests15:38
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bswartzmkoderer: are you working on this?15:39
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bswartz#1356400 cmode driver does not support ip rules for CIFS shares15:39
bswartzthis one has no owner15:39
bswartzactually there are a bunch with no owner15:40
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bswartzI think I'd like to push ALL of the bugs with no owner to k-2 because I don't see them getting fixed at the last minute15:40
vponomaryovagree15:40
bswartzokay I checked them and don't see any active fixes in gerrit15:41
bswartza few have abandoned changesets15:41
xyang1bswartz: can you update this one?  It is merged already.  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/register-emc-manila-plugin-with-stevedore15:41
bswartzI'm going to push them out15:41
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bswartzbut if you're working on any bugs please make sure your name is on them15:42
bswartzand if there's a bug with no owner, everyone is welcome to try to fix it15:42
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bswartzxyang1: this should be changed to Implemented?15:43
xyang1Ok15:43
juzuluagbswartz; diemt is actively working on it15:43
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bswartzI'm asking -- it looks like all the linked patchsets are merged15:43
juzuluagshe is not online, but  I know she is working on it15:43
bswartzjuzuluag: okay thank you15:44
bswartzjuzuluag: any objection to retargetting that driver to kilo-2?15:44
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juzuluagbswartz can I come back to you after I talk to her?15:44
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bswartzyeah sure15:45
juzuluagthanks15:45
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bswartzretargetting it isn't about making a judgement about the code, it's just a question of timing and priority for this team15:45
bswartzwe want to focus our efforts on stuff that is likely to get merged15:46
bswartzthere's no reason the oracle driver can't get merged the week after next if it misses k-115:46
juzuluagagree.15:46
juzuluagBut it's more her call at this point :)15:46
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bswartzokay have her ping me if she really wants to push for k-115:47
juzuluagok15:47
bswartz#1323720 errored share_server can not be deleted15:47
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bswartzthis on is won't fix?15:47
vponomaryovyes15:48
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bswartzvponomaryov: why?15:48
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vponomaryovbswartz: we can reconsider it later15:49
bswartzif we're going to reconsider it we should change the state15:49
bswartzwon't fix is a terminal status15:49
bswartzI will untarget it and forget about it otherwise15:49
vponomaryovbswartz: enhancement of share manager can overlap15:49
bswartzok15:49
bswartzin that case I'll untarget it15:49
vponomaryovok15:49
bswartz#1356588                        manila: pylint wrong continued indentation issues15:50
bswartzI don't know Danny Al-Gaaf's IRC handle15:50
bswartzis this still a real bug?15:50
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bswartzhmm I'll leave this one targetted15:51
bswartzand upate the bug15:51
bswartzokay that's it for K-115:52
bswartz#target open discussion15:52
bswartzerrr15:52
bswartz#topic open discussion15:52
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* bswartz has targeting on the brain15:52
bswartzanything else?15:52
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bswartzokay!15:54
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bswartzreviews are the priority the next week, unless you're an implementer for one of the things targetted to k-115:54
bswartzI'll be going reviews soon15:55
bswartzdoing*15:55
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bswartzthanks everyone15:55
rushilthanks15:56
vponomaryovthanks15:56
xyang1Thanks15:56
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bswartz#endmeeting15:56
lpabonby15:56
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kozhukalov#startmeeting Fuel16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 11 16:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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aglarendilhi everyone16:00
kozhukalovhey everyone16:00
izinovikhello16:00
kozhukalov#chair kozhukalov16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: kozhukalov16:00
kozhukalovagenda as usual16:00
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kozhukalov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda16:00
evgeniyl__hi16:00
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kozhukalovlet's start16:00
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kozhukalov#topic Announcements (6.0 HCF and status)16:01
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aglarendilhi, fuelers16:01
aglarendilso far we called Hard Code Freeze for 6.0 release of Fuel16:01
aglarendilthanks to all of you who participated in this effort16:01
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aglarendilour preliminary plan for release is Dec 18 Pacific time16:02
christopheraedohowdy16:02
aglarendilcurrently, we have several bugs targeted for 6.0 which are not resolved yet16:02
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/140115216:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401152 in fuel "[Upgrade] Versions of packages in 5.1.1 are older than in 6.0" [Critical,Triaged]16:02
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aglarendilthis bug should be updated as fixed after we merge updated packages into stable mirror16:03
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/6.0.x/+bug/140126116:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401261 in mos/6.0.x "qemu-img convert intermittently corrupts output images" [Critical,New]16:03
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aglarendilAFAIK, fix is not yet ready, we are waiting for our MOS-Linux team to apply it and update qemu package16:03
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aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/6.0.x/+bug/140150316:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401503 in mos/6.0.x "Redeployment of controller failed when murano is enabled" [Critical,In progress]16:03
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aglarendilRoot cause is identified - fix is being tested by developers right now and should be pushed on review shortly16:04
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/140111816:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401118 in mos "Glance can't upload image by link from horizon dashboard" [Critical,Confirmed]16:04
aglarendilthis bug is still in the progress of Root Cause Analysis16:05
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kozhukalovany estimate for RC iso?16:05
aglarendilaccording to the latest info it is present in current upstream code16:05
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/136952416:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1369524 in mos/6.0.x "lvremove can't delete volume with --force on Ubuntu" [High,In progress]16:05
aglarendilfix for Ubuntu LVM packages and corresponding components is ready16:05
aglarendiland is in progress of merge16:06
aglarendilthere are also two bugs related to stat collection feature16:06
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/140157216:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401572 in fuel "Public ip addresses are collected by stats in action_logs" [High,Confirmed]16:06
aglarendil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/140152116:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401521 in fuel/6.1.x "Usage statistics isn't sent if postgres was restarted" [High,New]16:06
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aglarendilI do not have any info on them. can anyone from fuel-web team comment on this ?16:07
kozhukalovakislitsky: around?16:07
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evgeniyl__it doesn't look like high16:08
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evgeniyl__akasatkin: could you please comment?16:08
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akasatkinyes, i'm looking into them16:08
aglarendilkozhukalov: there is already RC1 and corresponding community ISO is16:09
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aglarendil#link http://seed.fuel-infra.org/fuelweb-iso/fuel-community-6.0-34-2014-12-11_03-35-45.iso.torrent16:09
kozhukalovaglarendil: great, thanx16:09
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aglarendilso far I am done with 6.0 announcements16:09
akasatkin 1401521 requires some investigation, estimate 1 day16:09
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aglarendilregarding 6.1 we are starting design and planning16:10
aglarendileveryone feel free to propose their blueprints for 6.1 milestone16:10
akasatkin1401572  is simple , i'll make fix now16:10
kozhukalovaglarendil: it is the next topic16:10
kozhukalovakasatkin: great16:10
kozhukalovok, looks like we are in time for 6.016:11
kozhukalov#topic preliminary plans for 6.116:11
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aglarendilso I will start with fuel-library plans16:11
kozhukalovthere is still no official list of features which are supposed to be included into 6.116:12
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kozhukalovaglarendil: yes please, share your team's plans16:12
aglarendilkozhukalov: thx16:12
aglarendilwe are going to work on following:16:12
aglarendilSuperfeature called Granular Deployment16:13
aglarendilwhich should allow us to split deployment into a lot of small parts and allow user16:13
aglarendilto inject his own pieces16:13
aglarendilrelated-blueprints:16:13
aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks16:13
aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization16:14
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aglarendilthis should allow us to implement seamless patching and upgrades for OpenStack16:14
aglarendiland underlying system components16:14
aglarendilalong with ability to improve our plugin engine16:14
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aglarendiland CI infrastructure16:14
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kozhukalovafaiu, zero step implementation for granular deployment is not supposed to be based on Mistral, am I right?16:15
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aglarendilkozhukalov: right16:15
aglarendilbut we are going to start using Mistral as an orchestration engine starting from 7.016:15
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aglarendiland this feature should knock everyone dead :-)16:15
kozhukalovgreat, this gonna be huge progress in our task management16:16
aglarendilnext feature group is what we call 'Power management'16:16
aglarendilbase blueprint is16:16
aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ha-fencing16:16
aglarendilwe are eager to start using advanced power management techniques16:17
aglarendilsuch as IPMI/UPS/PDU16:17
aglarendilso that we can manage power of slave nodes16:17
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kozhukalovthis BP is kind of adjacent to this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/cobbler-ironic-substitute16:17
aglarendiland send corresponding data to pacemaker during deployment16:17
aglarendilof controllers16:17
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aglarendilkozhukalov: correct, but we are not tied to ironic as cobbler also can work with IPMI16:17
kozhukalovas far as we are going to switch to ironic (if it is possible)16:18
aglarendilour initial plan is to at least provide IPMI support in 6.116:18
aglarendiland we hope Ironic with Fuel Agent will make its way to 6.1 also16:18
kozhukalovaglarendil: you are right, but ironic is a priority, i think16:18
aglarendilkozhukalov: well, switching power management between cobbler and ironic should not be a rocket science16:19
aglarendilnext feature which is also important16:19
kozhukalovaglarendil: it is still in question whether ironic is ready for widening their scope16:19
aglarendilis improvement of our HA setup16:19
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aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/pacemaker-improvements16:19
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aglarendilwe are going to switch to corosync 2.x16:19
aglarendilimprove galera pacemaker script16:20
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aglarendilmake rabbitmq cluster HA more resilient16:20
aglarendilrefactor our puppet manifests for pacemaker and corosync16:20
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aglarendilalong with working on upstreaming this code to puppetlabs-openstack community16:21
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aglarendiland also, if power management feature goes into release, we are going to enable fencing out of box16:21
aglarendilso that our setup become rock solid and invulnerable16:21
aglarendilalso, we are eager to support SSL deployment16:22
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aglarendilin the simplest mode with self-signed certs16:22
aglarendilboth for FUEL and OpenStack endpoints16:22
aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ssl-endpoints16:22
aglarendil#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-ssl-endpoints16:22
kozhukalovssl support gonna be very important for some users16:23
aglarendilyep, and that's why we are targeting it to 6.116:23
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aglarendilwe've been a little bit slow with it, but we want to deliver it with a high level of quality16:23
aglarendiland there are also many other important blueprints, but I  have no time16:24
aglarendilto enumerate them all16:24
aglarendilso, that's all so far16:24
kozhukalovaglarendil: thanx a lot16:24
kozhukalovabout fuel-web16:24
mattymoI hope to help us tackle the SSL approach for 6.1 and make significant contributions there16:25
kozhukalovwe are working hard on integrating Ironic into Fuel but it is still in question16:25
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kozhukalovthere is a spec16:26
kozhukalov#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138115/16:26
kozhukalovfor implementing Fuel Agent driver16:26
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kozhukalovanyway by 6.1 we are planning to make image based scheme the only provisioning way available in Fuel16:27
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kozhukalovthat gonna significantly decrease provisioning time16:27
kozhukalovcurrently it take around 20 minutes16:27
kozhukalovit is supposed image based gonna take couple minutes16:28
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xarsesimage does take about 3-5 min for me16:28
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mattymoI imagine that time is based on hardware16:28
izinovikit is a tremendous speedup16:29
kozhukalovanother great advantage is that we will be able to  increase flexibility level (really adavanced partition schemes including software raids)16:29
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kozhukalovok, next feature is refactoring nailgun  volume manager16:29
kozhukalov#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/volume-manager-refactoring16:30
kozhukalovthis gonna address many bugs which are quite difficult to address using current scheme16:30
kozhukalovand again it is also necessary for providing additional flexibility for end user16:31
kozhukalovanther one is artifact based build system16:31
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kozhukalov#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/artifact-based-build-process16:31
kozhukalovwe gonna make it much more scalable16:32
kozhukalovand significantly decrease iso build time16:32
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kozhukalovit also gonna help to improve our functional tests16:32
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kozhukalovbecause it opens a way for granular testing16:33
kozhukalovanother extremely important activity is about pluggable architecture16:33
kozhukalovunfortunately, i know nothing about its status16:34
kozhukalovevgeniyl__: can you share some info about that?16:34
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evgeniyl__kozhukalov: we discuss details in ml16:34
evgeniyl__kozhukalov: there is no bp or spec16:35
evgeniyl__kozhukalov: we are trying to define the scope16:35
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evgeniyl__kozhukalov: we think it will be role as a plugin16:35
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kozhukalovevgeniyl__: thanx, waiting for spec PR to be available16:36
kozhukalovok, is there any other info about fuel-web activities?16:37
kozhukalovdpyzhov: around?16:37
akasatkinhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/advanced-networking16:37
akasatkinseems it 'should' be in 6.116:37
angdraugpersonally I think it should be a 'must'16:38
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akasatkinit is in progress now16:38
kozhukalovakasatkin: thanx16:39
dpyzhovkozhukalov: we are working on unit tests restructure, json validation, granular deployment16:39
kozhukalovis anyone from polish team around?16:39
dpyzhovalso we are going to improve our system tests16:40
kozhukalovdpyzhov: great, more tests better16:40
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dpyzhovadvanced networking and granular deployment seems to be must have in 6.1. Too many stuff rely on it16:41
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kozhukalovyes16:41
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samborkYes, I'm here from poznan team16:42
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dpyzhovAnd we are working on tests not because we have nothing important to do. Our tests became high priority task.16:42
kozhukalovsambork: could you please share your team's plans for 6.1?16:42
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samborkOur team will mostly focuse on 100-200 nodes deployment, also will help with ssl and re-thinking fuel client16:43
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kozhukalovsambork: great, scalability is also extremely important16:44
dpyzhovsambork: will it involve all of you or we can share some extra tasks?16:44
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kozhukalovhope all those features will be delivered by 6.116:45
kozhukalovmany many plans16:45
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samborkI can tell only about python team: yes it will involve all of us16:45
dpyzhovsambork: ok, thanks16:45
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kozhukalovok, looks like we are done here16:46
kozhukalov#topic open discussion16:46
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dpyzhovSorry, I’ve missed the begining of the meeting. Have we discussed 6.0 status?16:47
kozhukalovif anyone has any q please you are welcome16:47
angdraugyes16:47
kozhukalovyes16:47
dpyzhovOk, thanks. I’ll read it in summary16:47
kozhukalovthere are still some bugs, but looks like we are in time16:47
angdraugeveryone, I'd like to duplicate my recent update about fuel architecture review16:48
kozhukalovby December 1816:48
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angdrauga lot of people are unhappy with the current format, and today's google calendar glitch was the straw that broke camel's back16:48
angdraugthe current weekly meeting is cancelled, and will be reborn in a different format very soon16:48
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kozhukalovangdraug: yes, i have some topics to discuss but previous format is not very suitable16:49
kozhukalovbecause topic are quite technical16:50
kozhukalovangdraug: thanx16:50
kozhukalovare there any other q?16:50
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kozhukalovannouncements?16:50
kozhukalovwishes?16:50
kozhukalovclaims?16:50
ntruebloodI suggest for future Fuel architecture review meetings, we make the Agenda and meeting objectives more clear, so that people can determine about participation.16:50
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kozhukalovntrueblood: ok, looking forward for first reborn meeting16:52
angdraugntrueblood: it16:52
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angdraugoops16:52
xarsesnext one will be about plugins16:52
angdraugI think we should fork architecture review into parallel feature specific working groups16:53
angdraugI'm still thinking about specific and I welcome ideas16:53
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angdraughaving targeted working groups should help address ntrueblood's concern about clear meeting objectives16:54
xarsesangdraug: +116:54
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kozhukalovok, looks like we are done16:55
kozhukalovclosing?16:55
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kozhukalovthanx everyone, great meeting, many plans16:55
kozhukalovlet's do our best16:55
dpyzhovthank you16:55
kozhukalov#endmeeting16:56
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tkelsey#startmeeting openstack security group17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 11 17:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tkelsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group'17:00
tkelsey#topic rollcall17:00
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hyakuheio/17:00
elmikoo/17:00
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bpbo/17:00
hyakuheiSorry I'm in another unavoidable meeting today. Damned customers with their wanting to give money for the things17:00
tkelseyhey OSSG folks, im charing this one again, hyakuhei is a busy busy man17:00
hyakuhei^17:00
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bknudsonpresent17:00
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tkelseyso anyone got anything specific they want to bring up this meeting?17:01
elmikoi wanted to give a brief status update on the progress of the sahara security docs17:01
tkelseyelmiko: ok awesome, should be interesting17:02
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tkelseyjust give it a min for folks to join17:02
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elmikonp17:02
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tkelseyi guess we will start with your update then elmiko, if thats ok?17:03
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tkelsey#topic ahara security docs17:03
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hyakuheidamnit sweston!17:03
* ndillon does too17:03
hyakuhei:)17:03
swestonhyakuhei: :-)17:03
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hyakuheiredrobot: Thanks for poking your head in :)17:04
elmikook, so..17:04
elmikowe've created a bp and spec in the sahara project to cover the doc effort17:04
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redrobothyakuhei :)17:04
tkelsey#topic sahara security docs17:04
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hyakuheielmiko: #link ?17:04
elmikosec17:04
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elmikohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/security-guidelines-doc17:05
elmikowith bdpayne's guidance i have been getting up to speed on creating the chapter for the OSSG guide17:05
tkelseyelmiko: good stuff!17:06
elmikoi am going to create a bug against the security-doc project and do the work based on that bug17:06
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elmikowe've agreed to make "Data Processing" the new chapter 14, and bump the rest by one17:06
elmikoso, i'm just in the early phases of doing the writing and i'm learning a little about docbook as i go =)17:07
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elmikoand, that's about where i'm at17:07
tkelseyelmiko: sounds really good, is there a review on gerrit for it? or is that to come17:07
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elmikotkelsey: still coming, i haven't created the bug or my first patch yet17:08
elmiko#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/security-guidelines-doc17:08
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/13917017:08
tkelseyelmiko: ok no problem, will look forward to looking over it :)17:08
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elmikotkelsey: that is the review for the spec to create the doc17:08
tkelseyahh ok i see17:08
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elmikowe didn't really have an ideal place to create the spec, but both bdpayne and i agreed that we should have something visible to the public for the effort17:09
tkelsey+1 you sounds good17:09
tkelsey*yup17:09
bpbCould you have an etherpad with some early ideas?17:09
elmikoso, maybe that's something to consider for future improvements to the sec-docs17:09
elmikobpb: i can certainly set one up17:09
bpbelmiko: great17:10
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tkelseyok, sounds good, thanks elmiko17:10
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tkelsey#topic midterm17:11
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tkelseyso redrobot any update on the geekdom stuff?17:11
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redrobotyep, let me fish out my notes17:11
tkelseyredrobot: awesome :)17:11
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redrobotSo Geekdom SF is holding the Racker Rally Room for February 17-2617:12
redrobotwith additional access to an adjacent room/lounge space called "The Farm"17:13
redrobotand also access to the community area17:13
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redrobotUnfortunately, the Barbican team won't be able to go up to SF for a back-to-back midterm17:13
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bknudsondoes barbican have a mid-cycle?17:13
redrobotI'm not familiar with the space, but it would be good to get an SF native to go out there and check it out17:13
tkelseyredrobot: ah thats unfortunate17:13
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redrobotbknudson yes, we're looking at Austin for our mid-cycle17:14
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redrobotI know there was a lot of interest in overlapping the two17:14
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redrobotso we're planning on possibly having some sort of remote collaboration17:14
hyakuheiI still like having them back to back in the calendar17:15
redrobothyakuhei +117:15
hyakuheiSo we can physically be at both without massive travel costs.17:15
tkelseyhyakuhei: yeah +117:15
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tkelseyredrobot: what form would a remote collab take? If its not possible to overlap17:16
redrobottkelsey probably Google Hangouts or Vidyo17:16
redrobotwith plenty of IRC for coordination17:16
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tkelseywhat are peoples thoughts on doing that? just for the record (I still think physical would be best of course)17:16
hyakuheiSo if there's overlap or virtual collaboration I'm not completely against it17:17
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hyakuheibecause overal meeting time is reduced17:17
hyakuheithough I have quality concerns17:17
tkelseyhyakuhei: thats understandable17:17
bpbMaybe one or two joint sessions could be held, using broadcast audio and an etherpad or something17:18
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tkelseybpb: that might work, im not familiar with doing things like that personally, anyone have any thoughts?17:19
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dg_personally I'd prefer physical if possible17:19
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tkelseydg_ sure, i guess this is thinking about a plan b17:20
bpbtkelsey: The audio would be the difficult part, since it would be hard to pick up discussion.  Only a main speaker would work17:20
tkelseyhumm ok, so what are our options here then17:21
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dg_a) have the OSSG meetup in austin before/after the barbican meetup, b) have the OSSG Meetup in SF before/after the barbican meetup,17:22
bpbtkelsey:  If there's a presentation that would be good for both sessions to hear, then you could have a joint session.  Other than that, it wouldn't  be practical17:22
dg_c) have the OSSG meetup in SF some other time17:22
tkelseybpb: that makes sense17:23
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tkelseyso what do people think about moving our things around to try and sync up?17:23
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redrobotI think it would be good to nail down some dates.  It would make it easier to look for space.17:24
tkelseyredrobot: agreed, I'm not actually sure how far along arrangements are with this, hyakuhei would know more.17:25
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tkelseyfor now I think we need to move on and hyakuhei can bring it up next time17:26
redrobotWe had talked about mid-February for SF, so I don't think that would change17:26
tkelseyredrobot: yeah17:26
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redrobotI was proposing OSSG on Feb 16-20.  Then barbican either before (11-13) or after (23-25)17:27
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redrobotnot sure if 5 weekdays were enough for y'all17:27
redrobotbrb, my dog is doing the potty dance.17:28
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tkelseyhumm, seems reasonable, but im not able to make a call on that really. I'll talk to hyakuhei out of bounds and get back to people next time17:28
tkelseyredrobot: hehe ok17:28
tkelsey#action tkelsey to talk to hyakuhei about mid-cycle plans17:29
dg_lol17:29
tkelseyok, lets move on, sorry that wasn't very conclusive17:30
tkelsey#topic OSSA metrics calibration17:30
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tkelseydg_ did you find a moment to send out the OSSA list email?17:30
dg_remind me...17:31
tkelseyah, so last meeting we talked about sending out some recent OSSAs and getting interested people to rate them using the DREAD metrics17:32
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tkelseyhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSA-Metrics17:32
dg_That does sound like something I would be in favour of17:32
dg_I will do that this week :)17:32
tkelseydg_ heh ok :)17:33
tkelsey#topic OSSNs17:33
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tkelseyso anyone have anything interesting to mention on the OSSN front then?17:34
tkelseyhyakuhei has started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140009/ OSSN 42 Keystone Scoping17:34
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tkelseyI still have OSSN 38 in review, going to update it after this17:35
hyakuhei^ review 0042 please :)17:36
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tkelseylooks like this one is new https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1390124 unless I just missed it last time i looked17:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1390124 in ossn "No validation between client's IdP and Keystone IdP" [Undecided,In progress]17:36
tkelseyhyakuhei: +1 :)17:37
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tkelseyok so as normal, input most welcome on notes in review, and please update status in LP if you pick up a bug to prevent doubling up17:38
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tkelseyand i think thats it, unless there is any other OSSN stuff?17:39
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ANish__Hi All sorry i was late17:40
tkelseyHi ANish__ was just about to go to any other business17:40
tkelsey#topic any other business17:40
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bpbJust a heads-up that We've submitted a spec for allowing the volume encyption feature to be used with Barbican https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140144/17:40
tkelsey#topic barbican17:41
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bpbWe'd like to get this into kilo.  Currently the key is hard coded- it's just a placeholder to test the feature17:41
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bpbThis was merged before in juno https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94918/ but it got pushed to kilo17:41
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tkelseyi see, interested folks please go review that spec from bpb17:42
bpbtkelsey:  thanks17:42
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tkelseylooks like there has been more progress on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104001/ as well, good to see17:44
tkelseyok, any other barbican topic people would like to discuss?17:44
bpbtkelsey:  Anything new on the PyKMIP requirements?17:45
bknudsonbarbican going to be integrated this release?17:45
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tkelseybpb: nothing yet, patch still in review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137016/17:45
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elmikospeaking of PyKMIP, i think i found a minor issue with it pertaining to the barbican tests and py2.7.8+17:46
tkelseyelmiko: oh?17:46
elmikolemme grab the link, sec17:47
tkelseyelmiko: ok, thanks for the heads up!17:47
elmikohttps://github.com/OpenKMIP/PyKMIP/pull/517:47
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elmikoi came across it while running the barbican tests on my rawhide box17:47
elmikothis PR will solve the issue, but i'm not sure if it's the most appropriate17:47
tkelseyelmiko: ah i see, interesting17:48
elmikoi wanted to talk with the authors to see if maybe changing the defaults for cert/key files might be better17:49
elmikobut i figured, might as well propose this, then we can argue =)17:49
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tkelseysure hehe17:50
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tkelseyhave you had any contact back yet?17:50
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redrobotbknudson we're working towards integration, but if this happens https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138504/ then "integrated" may not even be a thing. :-\17:50
elmikonot yet, but i just message rellerreller earlier today17:50
tkelseyelmiko: ok awesome, thanks for this, good stuff17:51
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tkelseyOK, 10 mins people17:52
bknudsonredrobot: thanks! seems to be a moving target17:52
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elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes17:52
tkelseyelmiko: cool :)17:52
elmikojust to close the loop, i set that up for the notes on the sec guide17:52
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elmikoi'll start posting soon(TM) ;)17:52
tkelseyhehe :) good stuff17:52
bpbelmiko:  Thanks!17:53
tkelseyok, any final business?17:53
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tkelseyi'll take that as a no then :) thanks for attending all17:55
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tkelsey#endmeeting17:55
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SergeyLukjanovsahara folks, ping17:58
elmikoo/17:59
NikitaKonovalovo/17:59
crobertsrhhello/17:59
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* SergeyLukjanov needs to go offline in 30-40 mins, hope to have a short and productive meetings ;)17:59
SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting sahara17:59
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:59
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SergeyLukjanov#topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov)18:00
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SergeyLukjanovany critical updates folks?18:00
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aignatovo/18:00
NikitaKonovalovnothing critical18:00
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NikitaKonovalovbut one very annoying thing18:00
NikitaKonovalovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/125927/18:00
NikitaKonovalovthis change fixes Job Executions table18:01
SergeyLukjanovyeah, I see18:01
crobertsrhYou haven't even hit 30 patch sets yet18:01
elmikolol18:01
SergeyLukjanovfolks, we all need to spam it with +1s ;)18:01
NikitaKonovalovcrobertsrh: I know18:01
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SergeyLukjanov#topic News / updates18:01
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crobertsrhThe filtering change is up for horizon, been sitting a week or so now.  Need some more eyes.18:01
NikitaKonovalovand I wish it lands a bit earlier this time18:01
SergeyLukjanovfolks, please18:02
crobertsrh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136459/18:02
alazarevI hixed a number of horizon bugs18:02
alazarev*fixed18:02
tmckaycrobertsrh, I'll try to take a look today, and your spec too18:02
tellesnobregastorm is in, and i need a plan to start storm edp18:02
elmikoi've been working on the security guide. talked with the sec. and doc. folks and we will have a chapter in the official sec guide.18:02
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-security-guide-notes18:02
elmikoi'm going to start collecting notes here, and setting up the chapter outline18:02
alazarevalso moved security groups to a separate tab: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140485/18:02
crobertsrhI've been working on specs for editing node group and cluster templates as well as a spec for "default templates".18:03
crobertsrh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140448/18:03
crobertsrhDefault templates spec should be up today.18:03
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SergeyLukjanovtellesnobrega, yay!18:03
weitingken chen is working on to enable the rest services in cdh cluster.18:03
tmckayI have been working substituting data_source paths for references in job_config values -- a little more complex than I thought.  But, almost done.  I need unit tests.  And, it occurred to me in the process that all the workflow creation unit tests should be using xml utils to test results, not self.assertIn18:03
aignatovguys, I’m gonna add an example of pig job which was top todoers at summit before last18:03
tmckaytellesnobrega, I can help you with storm EDP questions18:03
alazarevtellesnobrega, I can help either18:04
aignatovit’s more informative than just trim spaces I think :)18:04
tellesnobregaalazarev, tmckay, thanks. will ping when i have some time18:04
aignatovAlso I hope we will switch our ci integration tests to it18:04
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huichunI am current focus on the integration tests on CDH plugin, to make sure the new services(HBase etc) works well in the cluster18:04
elmikotellesnobrega: don't know if you saw this, but someone was asking about storm in sahara. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/55810/storm-as-openstack-data-processing/18:04
SergeyLukjanovhuichun, nice, we're still not enabled cdh voting but I hope it'll be done early next week18:05
tellesnobregaelmiko, cool, had not seen that.18:05
elmikoaignatov: ahh, but trim whitespace is so usefule! ;)18:05
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huichunthx SergeyLukjanov18:05
aignatovelmiko, yep, I just gonna add one more example :)18:05
aignatovtrim space will be there18:05
SergeyLukjanov:)18:06
SergeyLukjanovfolks, please, don't forget about k1 next week18:06
SergeyLukjanovkilo-1 dev milestone18:06
elmikoaignatov: +118:06
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SergeyLukjanovaignatov, could you add it to integration tests too?18:06
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i don't think sec-guide will be in for k-1, but k-2 seems very likely18:06
alazarevSergeyLukjanov, anything specific about kilo-1? do we have todo list?18:07
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, that's awesome anyway to have it ;)18:07
SergeyLukjanovalazarev, I think it's a launchpad page for release18:07
SergeyLukjanovwe need some cleanup for bugs18:07
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aignatovSergeyLukjanov: I’ll add just an example and with second CR I’ll add switching to the new job, would that work?18:07
SergeyLukjanovI'm going to move unimplemented features to k2 at monday18:07
alazarev#link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/kilo-118:08
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, yup, probably not switch but just add one more18:08
SergeyLukjanovwe defenetly need some reviews on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/indirect-vm-access18:08
aignatovhmmm, you mean one more edp test in our ci testing?18:08
SergeyLukjanovzhidong, do you have any updates about CDH license?18:09
SergeyLukjanovoh, I think he's not available now18:09
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weitingZhidong will not be online today.18:09
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, yup, we're already running a few jobs, just add one more18:09
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SergeyLukjanovnext week we'll be at 1400 UTC, folks18:09
SergeyLukjanovdon't forget about it18:09
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SergeyLukjanov#topic Open discussion18:10
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aignatovit could increase time of job executions18:10
weitingFor CDH License, Cloudera is still working on to check the license internally.18:10
weitingThey need some time to check it.18:10
SergeyLukjanovre building and publishing SwiftFS - work in progress and I think it'll be in next week18:10
aignatovin our tests18:10
alazarevaignatov, even with small data?18:10
SergeyLukjanovI'm now looking on building it for both Hadoop versions18:10
aignatovalazarev: I think yes18:10
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, we should check it18:11
aignatovdefenitely we should try18:11
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, on the other hand we could stop testing hadoop-1 on each patch set and add more powerful jobs to the rest tests18:11
aignatovit costs about 8 mins in hadoop 2 for 100mb of data18:11
aignatovfor hadoop 1 it takes 3-5 mins  :)18:11
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, and probably 10 mins for 1.5 GB :)18:12
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SergeyLukjanovso, what's about to stop test hadoop 1 on each patch set?18:12
aignatovSergeyLukjanov: not sure, non-linear dependency here :)18:12
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, yup18:12
elmikodo we want to try and plan a bug triage day for sometime after k-1 release but before holiday break?18:12
alazarevare we deprecating hadoop1 in kilo?18:13
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, probably in Jan18:13
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: cool, sounds good18:13
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, I'm afraid some of us will be on vacations in the last two weeks of December and first two weeks of Jan18:14
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SergeyLukjanovalazarev, I'm not sure about it, but we should think about it18:14
aignatovalazarev: aws still runnning hadoop-1?18:14
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elmikoSergeyLukjanov: yea, i figured as much. just thought i'd bring it up18:14
SergeyLukjanovfor example, HDP 1 plugin is extremely outdated18:14
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SergeyLukjanovI'll be on vacation most probably Dec 29 - Jan 1118:15
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tmckaywe could deprecate hdp, but leave vanilla18:15
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SergeyLukjanovtmckay, we can do it, yup18:15
tmckayas long as apache is supporting vanilla1, why deprecate?  It's stable18:15
aignatovbefore removing hadoop-1 we need to check carefully if all our features are supported by hadoop-2…. I mean data localoity, swift integration. performance aspects and so on :)18:15
aignatovtmckay: +1 to as well18:15
SergeyLukjanovaignatov, could point18:15
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, +118:16
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aignatovalso our changes are minimal, not huge efforts there to hadoop-118:16
tmckayas for hdp plugin out of date ... different issue :)18:16
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tmckaywe can send ping of shame to hwx folks, or draft community member to fix it18:17
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, hwx folks promising to assign several engineers to work on their plugin18:17
tmckayyay!18:17
SergeyLukjanovat end of the November...18:18
tmckay2015 ;-)18:18
SergeyLukjanov:)18:18
tmckaymust be, they're not here yet18:18
SergeyLukjanovshame on me, I forget to ask about year ;(18:18
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elmikolol18:18
alazarevthey also promised to share their sahara vision... in the beginning of Dec18:19
tellesnobregalol18:19
alazarevI also didn't ask for year... stupid I am18:19
SergeyLukjanovoh, we're now testing Mirantis OpenStack release 6.0 (Juno) and Sahara works very well (only CDH and some fixes backported from Kilo, no custom patches)18:20
elmikonice!18:20
tmckayso, anybody know why we didn't write job_manager unit tests to use xml utils for test results?18:20
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, nope18:20
tmckaywe use assertIn on strings, very fragile18:20
tmckayI helped perpetuate this too, way back when :)18:21
tmckaybut it's no good18:21
elmikomaybe open a bug?18:21
tmckayI'm writing new ones, I'll experiment18:21
tmckayif it works for the subst stuff, I'll add a bug18:21
elmikocool18:21
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elmikotmckay: i agree in general, we should be using the xml libs to parse the workflow for testing18:22
elmikoas a side note, i have generated a small script to create a basic swagger compliant json object for our api18:22
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elmikohttps://github.com/elmiko/sahara-doc18:23
elmikoi'm going to be adding more to it, and we will be talking about it at the next api working group meeting18:23
tmckayexcellent18:23
crobertsrhNeat!18:23
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elmikoit's very proto at the moment, but it does produce the base level of swagger2.0 compliant doc18:23
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, cool!18:23
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elmikoif the api wg decides to use swagger for the api-ref stuff, we might be able to incorporate something like this to automatically produce reference api docs for sahara18:24
tmckayoh, SergeyLukjanov, egafford should have a spec sometime in the next few weeks about EDP args.  We talked about an idea for adding an argument mapping template to a job, so that a job can define unambiguously the type and order of arguments it takes18:24
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tmckayUI can be driven by the map, potentially18:25
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tmckayit ties in to the data_source substitution stuff I am working on, and may get rid of the need for the fixed input/output paths in hadoop jobs18:25
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, nice18:25
tmckayopens up possibility of N data paths18:25
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crobertsrhSpeaking of UI.  I suspect that after the first of the year, I'll be working heavily on user experience things (aka, "wizard stuff").  If anyone wants to be a part of that (even if it's just ideas, not code), let me know.18:26
tmckaymaybe Kilo, maybe L, depending on complexity, and UI guys availability, etc18:26
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, multiple times nice :)18:26
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SergeyLukjanovanything else to chat about today18:27
SergeyLukjanov?18:27
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crobertsrhnothing from me18:28
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alazarevnothing from me18:29
SergeyLukjanovok, sounds like we ready to continue working :)18:29
tmckayNothing from me18:29
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SergeyLukjanovthank you folks, see you next week 1400 UTC18:29
SergeyLukjanov#endmeeting18:29
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amitgandhinz#startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting19:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 11 19:00:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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amitgandhinz#topic RollCall19:01
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malinio/19:01
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miqui_o/19:01
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obulpathio/19:02
amitgandhinzwelcome johnmdonahue19:02
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johnmdonahueThanks19:03
amitgandhinzyou are new to the meeting, do you mind giving us a quick intro?19:03
johnmdonahueSure. I'm an engineering manager at Edgecast19:04
maliniwelcome johnmdonahue! Glad to have you here19:04
johnmdonahueWill be heading up our efforts on poppy19:04
obulpathihi johnmdonahue, welcome to poppy!19:04
amitgandhinzawesome, looking forward to working with you =)19:04
miqui_welcome johnmdonahue....19:05
amitgandhinzok lets get this party started19:05
amitgandhinz#topic Review Last Weeks Action Items19:05
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amitgandhinz#link Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy19:05
johnmdonahuethanks for having me everyone19:05
amitgandhinz#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/weekly_poppy_meeting/2014/weekly_poppy_meeting.2014-12-04-19.00.html19:05
amitgandhinzonly one action item from last week19:06
amitgandhinzthat was mine19:06
amitgandhinzamitgandhinz to set up a design discussion on the Message Queue Driver19:06
amitgandhinzi havent done that19:06
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cpowellshame19:06
amitgandhinztbh that probably isnt going to happen until January19:06
malininext year!!!19:06
amitgandhinztoo busy bug fixing lol19:06
amitgandhinz#action amitgandhinz to set up a design discussion on the Message Queue Driver in early January19:07
amitgandhinz=P19:07
amitgandhinz#topic Update on Bugs and Blueprints19:07
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amitgandhinz#link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-219:07
amitgandhinzso as mentioned last week, much of kilo-2 is going to be focused on stability and bug fixing19:08
amitgandhinzwe do have some blueprints too19:08
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amitgandhinzthe bug list has really grown - already have 17 assigned to kilo19:08
amitgandhinzlets go through the list of bugs and get them assigned to someone19:08
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amitgandhinzgoing through them in order of importance19:09
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140130619:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401306 in poppy "returned links don't show https when required" [Critical,New]19:09
tonytan4everI can have that one.19:10
amitgandhinzbasically when you do SSL termination at the LB (or anywhere before the poppy api), poppy ends up seeing requests as http and not https19:10
amitgandhinztherefore links returned only show http and not https19:10
amitgandhinzsold to tonytan4ever!19:10
cpowelli wonder if this could be configured in Repose19:10
amitgandhinzcpowell: its the request.host_uri that poppy see's19:11
cpowellgotcha19:11
amitgandhinzand it would affect lb termination also (so not isolated to repose)19:11
amitgandhinzok next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140160819:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401608 in poppy "Failed Provider Service causes DNS create failure" [Critical,New]19:11
amitgandhinzobulpathi: already has this one19:12
obulpathiI ahve a fix for this19:12
amitgandhinzawesome!19:12
obulpathiI am working on test cases for the bug19:12
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amitgandhinzok, so still waiting on the patchset to be submitted?19:12
malinigood job obulpathi ;)19:12
obulpathi:)19:12
obulpathiI submitted the fix19:12
obulpathibut I am adding the test cases19:12
amitgandhinzok.  be sure to update the commit messaeg with the bug so that things update automagically19:13
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obulpathiI will get the test cases ready by today evening and push out the final pr19:13
amitgandhinzcool19:13
obulpathisure19:13
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/138067919:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1380679 in poppy "Remove project_id from the request url in tests" [High,Confirmed]19:13
amitgandhinzobulpathi: this is assigned to you19:13
obulpathiyep19:13
amitgandhinzim inclined to lower this to medium19:14
obulpathitI started this, but got distracted by mimic and din't achive much progress after that19:14
maliniamitgandhinz: +119:14
obulpathiwill submit the patch for this once I finish the dns bug19:14
obulpathiok19:14
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140162819:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1401628 in poppy "href links returned from poppy are missing project_id" [High,Confirmed]19:15
amitgandhinzbasically here we run into the issue of when projectid is in the url, links returned should have it also19:15
amitgandhinzwhen its not, it shouldnt19:15
obulpathiwe are stripping the tenant id in repose right?19:16
amitgandhinzthis will be similar to the http/https issue19:16
amitgandhinzyeh, thats why poppy doesnt see it19:16
obulpathiI think this is better handled by repose19:16
amitgandhinzcan i assign this to you tonytan4ever19:16
amitgandhinzobulpathi: no19:16
tonytan4everYeah19:17
tonytan4eversure.19:17
amitgandhinzbecause repose strips it out before passing it to poppy19:17
amitgandhinzif it doesnt, then poppy would need to change pecan routes to support projectid in the url19:17
amitgandhinzwe dont want that19:17
obulpathiif poppy does not see it, how can it set it back in url?19:17
amitgandhinzpoppy has the projectid in the context19:17
amitgandhinzin the header19:17
amitgandhinzit can update the base_url  with it19:17
amitgandhinzalong side putting in the https19:17
amitgandhinzhence tonytan4ever can do them both at once =P19:18
obulpathibut say if a provider is is using openstack API V319:18
obulpathiand does not support tenat id in url19:18
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obulpathihow does it work then?19:18
amitgandhinzit should be a conf parameter19:18
amitgandhinzoperator decides it19:18
obulpathioh ok19:18
obulpathigot it19:18
amitgandhinzits really a workaround for the rackspace keystone catalog =(19:19
obulpathiunderstood19:19
amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139257819:19
obulpathiI thought that if we can do it in repose, we don't need to worry about it in poppy at all19:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1392578 in poppy "Next link in GET /services is incorrect" [High,Triaged]19:19
morganfainbergamitgandhinz, i hope you also communicate to RAX the need to "work around" this19:19
amitgandhinzmorganfainberg: i believe when they deploy keystone v3 they are planning to fix this (really really hopes)19:20
morganfainbergamitgandhinz, i don't like hearing that people need to "work around" the keystone catalog for a big-provider19:20
morganfainbergthey are19:20
amitgandhinzim pretty sure i heard a discussion around it19:20
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morganfainbergbut it doesn't hurt for you to let them know you'll be m,uch happier when they do.19:21
morganfainberg:)19:21
morganfainberganother voice does help19:21
amitgandhinzhaha, i do (btw i also work for rackspace)19:21
morganfainberg:)19:21
* morganfainberg gets out of your meeting now.19:21
amitgandhinz#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/139257819:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1392578 in poppy "Next link in GET /services is incorrect" [High,Triaged]19:21
amitgandhinzthis one im changing to incomplete for now19:22
amitgandhinzi dont think its an issue anymore, but needs to be retested19:22
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amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/139257819:23
miqui_amitgandhinz:  you can assing me 140115319:23
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1392578 in poppy "Next link in GET /services is incorrect" [High,Triaged]19:23
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amitgandhinzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140052519:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1400525 in poppy "Delete stuck in progress" [High,In progress]19:24
amitgandhinzok this one i am working on19:24
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amitgandhinzwe also discussed doign archiving this morning in the normal channel19:24
amitgandhinzthose are all the high/critical items19:25
amitgandhinzdo we want to spend more time and go through all the mediums right now?19:25
amitgandhinzor just pick them up as you have time?19:25
obulpathiI have the cassandra one in progress now19:25
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obulpathihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/138215519:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1382155 in poppy "/health endpoint returns wrong status when cassandra is offline" [Medium,Confirmed]19:25
obulpathiThis one is in progress19:25
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obulpathiwill submit pr after this dns bug fix19:26
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obulpathiamitgandhinz: I think we can pick them up as we time?19:26
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amitgandhinzok, i think the status of the rest is correct19:27
amitgandhinzmiqui_:  i assigned you the logging bug19:27
miqui_amitgandhinz: thanks..19:27
amitgandhinzwill you have time to work on that in the next few days19:27
amitgandhinzi know cpowell is itching for it =P19:27
cpowellits rather important for release19:27
miqui_i have no problem...if cpowell wants to grab it.. thats ok...19:28
amitgandhinzcpowell: just needs it, he's prob not going to work on it haha19:28
miqui_ah...ok.19:28
amitgandhinzfor now i will leave it open19:29
miqui_k19:29
amitgandhinzif you can get to it before we do then great =)19:29
miqui_k19:29
amitgandhinzok lets talk blueprints now19:29
amitgandhinzmiqui_: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc19:29
amitgandhinzany update?19:30
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miqui_amitgandhinz:  been ramping on pecan primarily...but thats it so far..19:30
amitgandhinzok19:30
miqui_i should be done with this one next couple of days...19:30
amitgandhinzcool19:30
johnmdonahueI have to jump into another meeting now but thanks for letting me listen in. we'll hopefully have more to contribute to the conversation in the coming weeks from the EC side. :)19:30
obulpathithanks for joining us johnmdonahue19:31
maliniit'll be cool to have an edgecast driver..yumm yumm19:31
amitgandhinzthanks johnmdonahue19:31
amitgandhinzim looking forward to it=D19:31
malinithanks johnmdonahue19:31
johnmdonahueUs too! Thanks everyone!19:31
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amitgandhinzmalini: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/provider-url-in-conf19:32
amitgandhinzi know you updated this for the fastly driver19:32
amitgandhinzdid you get this updated for the others?19:32
maliniyes..& tonytan4ever coneveniently has it for akamai19:32
maliniI am yet to update the rest19:32
amitgandhinzi will keep it open then19:32
maliniI don't think I'll start on this till next year19:33
amitgandhinzok any other updates/questions on blueprints or bugs?19:33
malininone from me19:34
amitgandhinz#topic New Items19:34
tonytan4everI am good.19:34
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amitgandhinznothing on the agenda19:34
amitgandhinz#topic Open Discussion19:34
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amitgandhinzanyone have a topic to discuss?19:34
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obulpathione small update19:35
amitgandhinzgo ahead19:35
obulpathiI started working on mimic racksapce plugin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/mimic-racksapce-dns19:35
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obulpathican we mark it as started?19:36
amitgandhinzupdated19:36
ekarlso-designate ? ;p19:36
amitgandhinzand pulled into k219:36
obulpathithanks :)19:36
amitgandhinzekarlso-: designate is next19:36
amitgandhinzcurrently this works with the current rackspace cloud dns19:37
amitgandhinzbut its a driver model, so we have in our k3 roadmap to work on the designate driver19:37
amitgandhinzobulpathi: also please watch the typo's on your bprints ;-)19:38
obulpathiamitgandhi: this is something I have to improve on19:38
obulpathithanks for keeping an eye one me :D19:39
amitgandhinzekarlso-: fyi https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/designate-dns-driver19:39
amitgandhinzit may be in k3, else L-119:39
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maliniobulpathi: can u get ur name right? :D19:39
amitgandhinzlol19:39
miqui_lol19:39
obulpathilol19:39
obulpathithis is my correct id, my official name is the wrong one :(19:40
malinijust kidding.. you are good with all the typos :D19:40
amitgandhinzok, any other work being done that we need to track?19:40
maliniI am working on endtoend tests19:40
obulpathinone from me19:41
amitgandhinzcool.  so lets try to squish as many bugs as possible19:41
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maliniendtoend tests - deploy a test site to a cloud server with heat, create poppy service & validate CDN enabled content19:41
malinidoes tht qualify for a bp?19:41
amitgandhinzi think so19:41
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amitgandhinzplease create it19:42
maliniok..here I go19:42
amitgandhinzmake sure its nova (not cloud server)19:42
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malinisure..tht is just a yaml thing19:42
malini'JUST' yaml19:42
amitgandhinzyeh, i think heat figures it out19:42
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amitgandhinzok....19:42
amitgandhinzfyi next week will be the last meeting for the year19:43
amitgandhinzthe week after is xmas day and the ny19:43
malinithis is the last meeting in 2 years!19:43
maliniwell..next meeting19:44
malinimy turn to typo19:44
amitgandhinzhaha19:44
amitgandhinzok19:44
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amitgandhinzif nothing else to discuss, then you get 15 min back19:44
amitgandhinzthanks everyone19:45
malinithank you!19:45
amitgandhinz#endmeeting19:45
miqui_thanks....19:45
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miqui_cya guys.....19:45
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