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| tchaypo | Is anyone at all here for the tripleo meeting? | 08:03 |
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| tchaypo | or is it just me? | 08:03 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 08:03 |
| d0ugal | I'm here - just. | 08:03 |
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| d0ugal | tchaypo: Which country are you in now? | 08:05 |
| tchaypo | If it’s just us I don’t think it’s really worth running the meeting | 08:05 |
| tchaypo | still in paris | 08:05 |
| d0ugal | cool :) | 08:05 |
| d0ugal | Lemme ping some people | 08:05 |
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| d0ugal | tchaypo: Yeah, so, no luck. | 08:07 |
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| d0ugal | I think this is the second EU meeting time that hasn't really happened now. | 08:07 |
| tchaypo | That’s exactly what i was about to say ;) | 08:07 |
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| d0ugal | We should probably send something to the list and check people will come to the next one or look at moving it. | 08:08 |
| marios_ | o/ sorry for being late | 08:08 |
| marios_ | are we meeting? reading back | 08:08 |
| d0ugal | marios_: there are now three of us, not sure it is worth it. | 08:09 |
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| lxsli | Morning | 08:09 |
| d0ugal | Morning | 08:09 |
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| lxsli | I thought we changed this time to 9AM? Might be getting TZ confusion tho | 08:09 |
| marios_ | yeah same here, i thought it was meant to be in an hour | 08:09 |
| marios_ | did dst change somewhere again | 08:10 |
| d0ugal | 8AM UTC | 08:10 |
| d0ugal | When we changed it to that, DST made it 9am in some places... | 08:10 |
| tchaypo | d0ugal keeps saying the thing I’m typing as I’m halfway through typing it | 08:10 |
| marios_ | :) | 08:10 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:10 |
| marios_ | ok so are we calling it for today then? | 08:11 |
| marios_ | i'm in | 08:11 |
| * d0ugal lets tchaypo speak | 08:11 | |
| marios_ | fwiw, all neutron-* meetings are cancelled this week | 08:11 |
| marios_ | (post summit travel/rest) | 08:11 |
| lxsli | I woke up for this v.v | 08:11 |
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| marios_ | lxsli: sshhh... this is all a dream.... | 08:11 |
| marios_ | drift back | 08:11 |
| d0ugal | I don't have much to discuss. | 08:11 |
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| marios_ | i'm really sorry i didn't get to meet more people in paris btw | 08:12 |
| lxsli | At the summit we agreed to list 5 long-standing reviews to either review or abandon | 08:12 |
| lxsli | Maybe we could do 3? | 08:12 |
| tchaypo | so perhaps it’s worth running the meeting just to do that, and look at open/unassigned critical? | 08:12 |
| marios_ | was great to at least shake hands with tchaypo and greghaynes | 08:13 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: sure lets have an informal one | 08:13 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: should we startmeeting for the logs at least? | 08:13 |
| tchaypo | I think so | 08:13 |
| lxsli | jaypipes smiles a lot more than I expected! | 08:13 |
| tchaypo | d0ugal: should do the honours since he seems to be the fastest typer ;) | 08:14 |
| marios_ | COME ON MAN BLINK ALREADY! | 08:15 |
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| lxsli | #startmeeting tripleo | 08:16 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 12 08:16:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lxsli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:16 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:16 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 08:16 |
| lxsli | #topic agenda | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:16 | |
| lxsli | * bugs | 08:16 |
| lxsli | * reviews | 08:16 |
| lxsli | * open discussion | 08:16 |
| lxsli | #topic bugs | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:16 | |
| marios_ | thanks lxsli my head was about to explode | 08:16 |
| lxsli | :) | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 08:17 |
| marios_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 08:17 |
| lxsli | #bug 1188067 | 08:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1188067 in tripleo "* listening services available on all addresses" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188067 | 08:17 |
| lxsli | tchaypo? | 08:18 |
| tchaypo | wa-hey, that’s mine, isn’t it? | 08:18 |
| d0ugal | woah, the meeting is alive. sorry, I got distracted | 08:18 |
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| marios_ | so this bug reads more like a spec though | 08:18 |
| tchaypo | so I don’t seem to have notes on the bug | 08:18 |
| marios_ | (i mean about what could be done to mitigate) | 08:18 |
| tchaypo | but my thinking is that a lot of mitigation has already been done with our support for two vips | 08:19 |
| marios_ | (+combined with robert's comment about the creds) | 08:19 |
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| tchaypo | which makes it easier to only listen on a non-public interface | 08:20 |
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| lxsli | So we're picking "be careful"? Option 2 | 08:20 |
| tchaypo | this came to me because HP security people noticed that our undercloud had dnsmasq responding on the public interface, so it was being used as part of a dns amplification attack. It seems like we can continue the work we’ve already done to make dnsmasq only listen on selected interfaces | 08:21 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: so ok you can use that to discriminate | 08:21 |
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| tchaypo | once dnsmasq listens by default only on selected interfaces I don’t think we’ll have any known services that always listen on all interfaces | 08:22 |
| lxsli | Remaining bugs are all owned + not by people present | 08:22 |
| tchaypo | so i think we can drop this bug back to high at that point | 08:22 |
| lxsli | Sounds good - motion to move on? | 08:22 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 08:22 |
| lxsli | #topic reviews | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 08:23 | |
| lxsli | Anything anyone wants to bring up? | 08:23 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: don't quite follow the dnsmasq comment (listens on a specific bridge for the whatever subnet in a q-xxx namespace) - let's take discussion to the bug | 08:23 |
| lxsli | I'd like some more +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133258/ | 08:24 |
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| marios_ | lxsli: will add it to my review list for today | 08:25 |
| tchaypo | marios_: sure, I’ll update it with some details about what we saw dnsmasq doing today | 08:25 |
| lxsli | Thanks - moving on to long-standing reviews if no one else has anything? | 08:25 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: thanks man | 08:25 |
| marios_ | +1 move on | 08:26 |
| lxsli | I propose we use the flat "Oldest reviews" from: | 08:26 |
| lxsli | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 08:27 |
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| marios_ | lxsli: +1 | 08:27 |
| lxsli | The oldest is 222d old, it needs to be merged or abandoned | 08:27 |
| d0ugal | +1, I didn't know about that report. neat. | 08:27 |
| lxsli | so in clueless round-robin style, I propose tchaypo, marios_, d0ugal and lxsli take in order: | 08:28 |
| marios_ | lxsli: so actually | 08:28 |
| marios_ | lxsli: it IS 222 day old but it was updated Nov 7 | 08:28 |
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| d0ugal | Yeah, that review is active really. | 08:28 |
| tchaypo | I can’t abandon anything | 08:28 |
| marios_ | lxsli: so .next | 08:28 |
| tchaypo | but I can read it, make a decision, and ask someone else for action | 08:29 |
| lxsli | tchaypo: really? weird | 08:29 |
| d0ugal | Likewise | 08:29 |
| d0ugal | lxsli: neither I or tchaypo are core | 08:29 |
| tchaypo | which at least saves people from having to read and decide | 08:29 |
| lxsli | Oh how about that | 08:29 |
| lxsli | I should know this... marios_ are you core? | 08:29 |
| d0ugal | he is :) | 08:30 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85130/ might be active but it looks like it could do with some help | 08:30 |
| marios_ | lxsli: yeah i can abandon but this one doesn't warrant it | 08:30 |
| marios_ | same goes for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92204/ | 08:30 |
| tchaypo | I’ve looked at that in the past, I’d be happy to jump in and see what I can do to help get it across the line | 08:30 |
| marios_ | 190 days old, updated Nov 12 | 08:30 |
| lxsli | marios_: OK so can you take ownership and try to help it merge? | 08:30 |
| marios_ | lxsli: heh, clint uploaded a version _today_ | 08:31 |
| marios_ | i'm sure he won't mind :) | 08:31 |
| marios_ | lol | 08:31 |
| lxsli | gah | 08:31 |
| d0ugal | We need a different report | 08:31 |
| marios_ | "it's ok, lxsli said" | 08:31 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:31 |
| * marios_ grabs clint's keyboard | 08:31 | |
| lxsli | this is what happens when I try to lead things | 08:31 |
| lxsli | What about "Longest waiting reviews (based on oldest rev without -1 or -2)" then? | 08:32 |
| d0ugal | Don't we want "Longest waiting reviews (based on latest revision): " | 08:32 |
| d0ugal | Yup! | 08:32 |
| marios_ | this ^^ | 08:32 |
| lxsli | those are different btw | 08:32 |
| marios_ | d0ugal: you're doing it to me now with the typing thing | 08:32 |
| d0ugal | oh yeah | 08:32 |
| tchaypo | does the tripleo dashboard have a thingy we can use? | 08:33 |
| d0ugal | lxsli: "based on oldest rev" seems wrong? | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | i think that hashing this out makes this a worthwhile meeting.. | 08:33 |
| lxsli | d0ugal: as in not as described? | 08:33 |
| marios_ | lxsli: yeah, even if there are just comments there | 08:33 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: +1 | 08:33 |
| lxsli | tchaypo: +1 | 08:33 |
| d0ugal | lxsli: Yeah, it appears to be current revision but I'm a bit confused now :) | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | dashboard has | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/label:Verified%253E%253D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+owner:self+NOT+project:openstack/tripleo-specs+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D2+age:5d+(project:openstack/tripleo-incubator+OR+project:openstack/tripleo-image-elements+OR+project:openstack/tripleo-heat-templates+OR+project:openstack/tripleo-specs+OR+project:openstack/os-apply-config+O | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | R+project:openstack/os-collect-config+OR+project:openstack/os-refresh-config+OR+project:openstack/os-cloud-config+OR+project:openstack/diskimage-builder+OR+project:openstack/dib-utils+OR+project:openstack-infra/tripleo-ci+OR+project:openstack/tuskar+OR+project:openstack/python-tuskarclient)+status:open+NOT+label:Workflow%253C%253D-1+NOT+label:Code-Review%253 | 08:33 |
| tchaypo | C%253D-2,n,z - “5 days without feedback" | 08:33 |
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| tchaypo | that’s a poor attempt at pasting | 08:33 |
| marios_ | lxsli: i mean, if there are just comments there and it's been a while since revision, imo, that's the kind of candidate we can try and help for getting merged (ping author, address comments etc) | 08:33 |
| marios_ | lxsli: so longest waiting since revision seems like a good one imo | 08:34 |
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| lxsli | OK lets use "based on latest revision" | 08:34 |
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| tchaypo | I don’t think the dashboard has anything helpful, mostly because gerri orders things by newest-first and we want oldest-first | 08:35 |
| lxsli | #info Assigning "Longest waiting reviews (based on latest revision)" | 08:35 |
| marios_ | lxsli: BUT we can quickly also check the really old ones, let's not make it a rigit thing | 08:35 |
| lxsli | Suggest we also don't assign out patches whose owner is already core? | 08:35 |
| marios_ | lxsli: (rigid) like some of those in the other lists maybe need closing etc | 08:35 |
| lxsli | They can chase us themselves | 08:35 |
| marios_ | lxsli: unnecessary to explicate that imo but sure | 08:35 |
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| marios_ | ping the author would be my very first thing to do anyway, regardless | 08:36 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98336/ looks like it just needs a licence file/header | 08:36 |
| tchaypo | should be trivial for one of us to add that and update | 08:36 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: i can take that, i'll ping derek later | 08:36 |
| lxsli | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103105/ | 08:36 |
| lxsli | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129157/ | 08:37 |
| lxsli | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106727/ | 08:37 |
| marios_ | how do we add action items here? is it 'note' or 'info' ? | 08:37 |
| tchaypo | although on second reading, lxsli has a few other comments I think deserve followup - but again it should be simple for someone to make those changes | 08:37 |
| tchaypo | marios_: action | 08:37 |
| tchaypo | followed by name of the person it’s assigned to | 08:37 |
| marios_ | #action marios to take ownership of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98336/ - ping author see whatsup - followup | 08:37 |
| lxsli | #action lxsli https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106727/ | 08:38 |
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| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129105/ looks like it was stalled waiting for ci to pass, which it now has | 08:38 |
| lxsli | #action lxsli https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129157/ | 08:38 |
| lxsli | they both look pretty easy, got +2 | 08:38 |
| marios_ | #action marios https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129105 | 08:38 |
| lxsli | marios_: can you take 103105? | 08:39 |
| marios_ | ITS A TRAP | 08:39 |
| * marios_ looks | 08:39 | |
| marios_ | sure | 08:39 |
| marios_ | #action https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103105 | 08:39 |
| lxsli | #action marios https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103105 | 08:39 |
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| lxsli | #topic AOB | 08:40 |
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| marios_ | haha and thus it was the most productive meeting in tripleo ever, nice one lxsli | 08:40 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 08:40 |
| lxsli | Nothing from me, nice to meet most of you in Paris :) | 08:40 |
| marios_ | lxsli: sorry i missed you. i was running around most days between neutron sessions | 08:40 |
| lxsli | you should have checked more bars ;) | 08:40 |
| marios_ | :) | 08:41 |
| lxsli | #endmeeting | 08:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 12 08:41:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-12-08.16.html | 08:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-12-08.16.txt | 08:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-11-12-08.16.log.html | 08:41 |
| marios_ | thanks | 08:41 |
| tchaypo | so no actions for me? | 08:41 |
| d0ugal | thanks all! | 08:41 |
| lxsli | thanks chaps | 08:41 |
| tchaypo | except for following that critical? | 08:41 |
| tchaypo | wunderbar | 08:41 |
| lxsli | no, you are a winner tchaypo ! | 08:41 |
| tchaypo | great. | 08:42 |
| d0ugal | lol | 08:42 |
| * tchaypo packs up for a morning excursion to the catacombs | 08:42 | |
| tchaypo | followed by work-from-laverie-libre-service this afternoon | 08:42 |
| lxsli | now... coffeeeee | 08:42 |
| lxsli | have a great day :) | 08:42 |
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| dims | viveknarasimhan: hi | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | hi dims | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | how are you | 15:46 |
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| dims | viveknarasimhan: doing good. is Fengxi in touch with you about the stuff we talked about? i got pointed to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105369/ | 15:48 |
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| viveknarasimhan | nope | 15:53 |
| viveknarasimhan | Fengxi said our bp covered several things that he needed | 15:53 |
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| viveknarasimhan | other than that via mail, i couldn't touch base with him again | 15:54 |
| dims | viveknarasimhan: ok, i'll try to chase | 15:56 |
| viveknarasimhan | i will join today's vmware channel | 15:57 |
| viveknarasimhan | hope we can sync up there | 15:57 |
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| viveknarasimhan | rajeev: we tried out live-migration with DVR | 15:59 |
| viveknarasimhan | the namespaces are getting relocated rightly along with OVS rules on to the destination node | 15:59 |
| viveknarasimhan | but the VM was not coming up and so there was DP loss | 15:59 |
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| ChuckC | Rajeev: viveknarasimhan: hi | 16:04 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: hi | 16:04 |
| ChuckC | Rajeev: viveknarasimhan: was wondering if you could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128134/6//COMMIT_MSG | 16:05 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: we are just walking out of DVR meeting as it got cancelled today chuck | 16:05 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: ya, i saw you chatting here and took advantage ;) | 16:05 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: i looked into commit msg | 16:06 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: carl's comment is correct | 16:06 |
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| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: yep, I just don't know what bug/spec might be appropriate | 16:06 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: maybe just neutron-ovs-dvr spec? | 16:07 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: I would request you to see in devstack without your patch out there | 16:07 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: whetehr the DHCP port entry appears in the ARP table of DVR namespace | 16:07 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: please raise a new bug that the ARP entries aren't showing up and then fix the commit msge of this patch with that new bug id | 16:08 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: the fix we do here is not related to lock timeout | 16:08 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: yes, the lock timeout is unrelated | 16:08 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: I'm in the middle of a few things right now and don't have dvr set up, but I will try to get to this by maybe early next week? | 16:09 |
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| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: sure | 16:09 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: i could have taken this forward, but i am bit swamped as well to recover 1 week of summit backlog | 16:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | chuckc: moving out of the room, please feel to mail me for clarifications. good day! | 16:11 |
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| Kiall | Heya | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 12 17:03:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Who's about? | 17:03 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:03 |
| ekarlso | a salute | 17:04 |
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| rjrjr_ | o/ | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Odd where's mugsie .. | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | there he is ;) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | sorry, got delayed | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Okay, So . No actions from last week so skipping that section :) | 17:05 |
| Kiall | #topic Pools - Where are we? (kiall) | 17:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Pools - Where are we? (kiall) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:05 | |
| Kiall | Yep - This one again :) | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | Folks working on pools, what are your blockers? | 17:05 |
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| rjrjr_ | no blockers. had some organization tasks to take care of Mon/Tues, but am back on coding today. | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | i think we are in a similar position to the end of last week | 17:06 |
| mugsie | which is good | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Cool - I started getting through my review backlog today, I believe mugsie did the same.. | 17:06 |
| timsim | Has anyone got all the pieces together yet? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:06 |
| Kiall | I still have loads left to do though... | 17:06 |
| Kiall | timsim: not as far as I know :) | 17:06 |
| mugsie | my inbox is about 1/2 of what it was | 17:06 |
| Kiall | maybe rjrjr_ has? | 17:06 |
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| rjrjr_ | i will update the WIP code (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131656/) and then everyone should be in a good position to see where we are at. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:07 |
| rjrjr_ | master + WIP = current | 17:08 |
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| rjrjr_ | give me until sometime today to get that updated. | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Okay great! Cool, I plan on spending at least half of tomorrow finishing up the reviews I didn't get to today, so that fits nicely for me :) | 17:08 |
| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 17:08 |
| Kiall | k1 is december 8th BTW.. So, ideally we want everything at least functional by that point ;) | 17:09 |
| Kiall | (i.e. about a month) | 17:09 |
| timsim | Seems doable. | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Yea, we have the bones in.. and then the rest of the cycle to stabilize. | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Okay.. Any other pools related stuff? blockers/questions/worries etc? | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | Guess not! | 17:10 |
| Kiall | #topic Mid-Cycle Dates/Locations/Topics (kiall) | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | So - I'll be in Palo Alto Jan 24/25th ish .. Travel wise, it would be much easier to schedule the mid-cycle around that | 17:11 |
| mugsie | FOSDEM / ConfigMngmtCamp is Jan 31st -> Feb 3 | 17:11 |
| rjrjr_ | kiall, just talked to my manager last night about this. eBay can host in Phoenix. | 17:11 |
| Kiall | I also think we should switch it up a little, and rather than spend it on a planning call it a hackathon | 17:12 |
| timsim | That'd be fun | 17:12 |
| mugsie | yeah, I like that idea | 17:12 |
| Kiall | Yep - I think we'll need it once pools is in to get it stable and performant :) | 17:12 |
| rjrjr_ | pools will be stable and performant before then if i have any say.... | 17:12 |
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| timsim | mugsie can program on a projector and we can all yell at him. | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr_: there's always more stability and performance to be had :P | 17:13 |
| mugsie | timsim: sounds like heaven | 17:13 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: re phoenix .. excellent! are there any scheduling concerns in/around the end of Jan? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | FOSDEM ^ | 17:13 |
| Kiall | timsim: +2 to that idea.. | 17:14 |
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| rjrjr_ | i'll need to ask. i'll get back to you later this week. | 17:14 |
| Kiall | mugsie: in/around | 17:14 |
| mugsie | [17:11] < mugsie> | FOSDEM / ConfigMngmtCamp is Jan 31st -> Feb 3 | 17:14 |
| Kiall | Yep.. in/around the end of jan.. Not Jan 31st -> Feb 3rd ;) | 17:14 |
| rjrjr_ | what are the ideal dates for this? | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | people are having them from dec -> feb | 17:15 |
| mugsie | so any time within that time frame | 17:15 |
| mugsie | but, for us international travel may be tough before jan | 17:15 |
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| timsim | We can rent an RV from here! | 17:16 |
| mugsie | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 17:16 |
| Kiall | timsim: lol | 17:16 |
| Kiall | Yea ... We'll also be trying to squeeze a Seattle visit into the trip.. we're on the right continent so should at least visit the office ;) | 17:16 |
| Kiall | timsim: what about RAX, any impossible deadlines etc in/around the dates suggested that would make it hard for you gues? | 17:17 |
| Kiall | guys* | 17:17 |
| timsim | No way to know for sure at this point, but I wouldn't think it'd be an issue. | 17:17 |
| timsim | I'll talk to Joe and see. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Cool... | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | loop back on this next week? | 17:18 |
| rjrjr_ | absolutely. | 17:18 |
| mugsie | would be good to get details out quickly | 17:18 |
| Kiall | mugsie: agreed - with Seattle/Phoenix/Palo Alto for me .. scheduling is going to be a pain ;) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | yeah. and with fosdem, I do want to be at home for a day or 2 as well ;) | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Okay .. So, nobody else had any other agenda topics. I blame the week "off" and people catching up ;) | 17:20 |
| mugsie | anything else on this? how hot is phoenix in jan? | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | Any other topics? | 17:20 |
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| filler | ohai | 17:20 |
| filler | im an ops engineer here at RAX | 17:20 |
| Kiall | I know some people are still away etc etc | 17:20 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:20 |
| rjrjr_ | phoenix is not hot in january. should be light jacket weather. | 17:20 |
| Kiall | hey filler :) | 17:20 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr_: so better than an Irish summer then? ;) | 17:21 |
| filler | working on designate implementation. wanted to discuss deployment strategies. particularly rolling release, a/b as it related to db migrations. | 17:21 |
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| filler | casually looking at the migrations in the code base to date, some of them looked backwards imcompat. | 17:21 |
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| filler | wanted to get in touch with those who actually run designate in production with zero dowmtime deployment. | 17:22 |
| filler | is there someone at hp i could discuss releng with? | 17:22 |
| Kiall | filler: Yea, I do believe we have some backwards incompatible migrations all right, which is something we need to address | 17:22 |
| Kiall | we run Designate in for HP Cloud BTW | 17:22 |
| filler | i assume that longer term that the migrations will calm down as the code matures. | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | yeah, we are in a serious period of growth right now | 17:23 |
| ekarlso | So, v2 for v2 client just as a note, i just wanna throw it out there if we're ok with V2 bindings going into python-designateclient, v1 stays in designateclient but v2 cli code either goes into openstackclient and or stays in designateclient and loaded in osc entrypoints ? :) | 17:23 |
| filler | Kiall: good to know. are you part of the release engineering of designate in hp cloud? | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Yea, this cycle has been particularly bad as we've been working through some big changes. At HP, we used to run close to master, | 17:23 |
| filler | if not, i would <3 to talk to someone who is. :) | 17:23 |
| Kiall | filler: We're both Dev and Ops for the HP Cloud DNS service | 17:23 |
| mugsie | filler: there is a few of us who are | 17:24 |
| ekarlso | filler: +1 to what she said ^ | 17:24 |
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| filler | ok. ill spin up a thread offline on this. | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | Anyway - We've held off deploys of the most recent codebase due to the number of changes, but will be getting back into rolling releases once things are stable again :) | 17:24 |
| filler | just wanted to pop in, meet everyone, and bring this up. we are talking release process as we gear up our implementation. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:25 |
| Kiall | timsim / vinod etc have all our emails.. Feel free to grab them :) | 17:25 |
| Kiall | (There also RAX, just in case you don't already know that ;)) | 17:25 |
| mugsie | pop your head into the normal room as well if you have an questions | 17:25 |
| filler | Kiall: i sit next to all them :P | 17:25 |
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| Kiall | Hah, was just making sure :) | 17:26 |
| mugsie | filler: hate that :P | 17:26 |
| Kiall | ^ too | 17:26 |
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| Kiall | ekarlso: re the client/bindings.. I agree, let's get the bindings into the client ASAP, and push for the CLI parts to go into python-openstackclient | 17:26 |
| ekarlso | Kiall: already have bindings done using cliff :P should be minor changes to have them work outside designateclient too with osc ;P | 17:27 |
| Kiall | that gives us a good advantage of being able to keep the v1 and v2 CLI around legitimately while we transition towards the V2 API | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Great.. :) | 17:27 |
| ekarlso | Kiall: re that, I gotta dust off my horizon bits for v2 as well when the time comes | 17:27 |
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| Kiall | Okay.. Any other topics for today? | 17:28 |
| timsim | Anyone from the summit want to poke their heads out and say hi? | 17:28 |
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| Kiall | timsim: Good Q :) | 17:28 |
| ekarlso | timsim: hi :p | 17:29 |
| timsim | nice. | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Lol.. Okay, let's call it ;) Quite meeting with vinod and betsy not here! | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Thanks all... | 17:29 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 12 17:29:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-12-17.03.html | 17:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-12-17.03.txt | 17:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-11-12-17.03.log.html | 17:30 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:30 |
| timsim | toodles | 17:30 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| openstack | amrith: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:00 |
| amrith | #startmeeting "Trove Meeting" | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 12 18:00:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to '_trove_meeting_' | 18:01 |
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| amrith | just in case come along ... | 18:01 |
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| amrith | agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:03 |
| amrith | but there's nothing there | 18:03 |
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| amrith | so I'll end this meeting in 1 minute unless someone shows up. | 18:03 |
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| amrith | . | 18:04 |
| amrith | . | 18:04 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 12 18:04:21 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_trove_meeting_/2014/_trove_meeting_.2014-11-12-18.00.html | 18:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_trove_meeting_/2014/_trove_meeting_.2014-11-12-18.00.txt | 18:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_trove_meeting_/2014/_trove_meeting_.2014-11-12-18.00.log.html | 18:04 |
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| blogan | #startmeeting octavia | 20:15 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 12 20:15:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is blogan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:15 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:15 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:15 |
| rm_work | umm so yeah, hey | 20:15 |
| blogan | starting a meeting late since im a dummy and forgot about the time change here | 20:15 |
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| rm_work | maybe we should ping people and hang out a bit? | 20:16 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:16 |
| rm_work | sballe | 20:16 |
| rm_work | dougwig | 20:16 |
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| rm_work | uhh, i ran out of names | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | I thought I had missed last week's because my reminder didn't have UTC on it.... | 20:17 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff davidlenwell amiller | 20:17 |
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| johnsom | german is on a plane | 20:17 |
| blogan | last week's was canceled bc of the summit | 20:17 |
| blogan | he manage to get into germany with the strikes? | 20:17 |
| blogan | he was worried they'd drop him off at the german border | 20:17 |
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| bedis | he could have taken a train | 20:18 |
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| TrevorV_ | o/ (late) | 20:18 |
| blogan | bedis the train conductors were on strike | 20:18 |
| bedis | car ? | 20:18 |
| bedis | :) | 20:18 |
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| blogan | planes trains and autombiles | 20:18 |
| bedis | foot :( | 20:19 |
| blogan | he's been americanized, no self respecting american walks anywhere | 20:19 |
| blogan | too much exercise | 20:19 |
| rm_work | truth | 20:20 |
| rm_work | gotta get a scooter | 20:20 |
| blogan | a rascal! | 20:20 |
| rm_work | otherwise how would we maintain our winter blubber reserves | 20:20 |
| TrevorV_ | Is a meeting going to happen here or wut? | 20:20 |
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| rm_work | we were pinging people and hoping they'd show up | 20:20 |
| blogan | ok we shall start | 20:20 |
| blogan | there's not going to be much | 20:21 |
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| rm_work | in case everyone else forgot about the time change too T_T | 20:21 |
| blogan | so anyway there are reviews out there ready to be reviewed | 20:21 |
| blogan | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/stackforge/octavia+status:open,n,z | 20:21 |
| rm_work | yeah a few of mine even got merged today :P | 20:21 |
| rm_work | thanks blogan, dougwig | 20:21 |
| blogan | im still trying to figure out a race condition in the API tests | 20:21 |
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| TrevorV_ | For those of you who like to see things organized: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-pending-reviews | 20:22 |
| rm_work | I'm trying to figure out how to mock file open/write correctly | 20:22 |
| blogan | and i've flipped flopped on TrevorV's reviews | 20:22 |
| TrevorV_ | (Like me | 20:22 |
| TrevorV_ | ) | 20:22 |
| blogan | rm_work: i am almost certain that is one of the examples mock gives for patch | 20:22 |
| rm_work | oh, it is | 20:23 |
| rm_work | and they have a nice wrapper | 20:23 |
| rm_work | but I end up with PyCharm read/writes in my mocks >_< | 20:23 |
| TrevorV_ | rm_work, google foo failing you today? | 20:23 |
| rm_work | because it mocks EVERYTHING | 20:23 |
| rm_work | and it messes up the IDE, lol | 20:23 |
| blogan | you've confused me | 20:23 |
| TrevorV_ | Either way, next topic? | 20:23 |
| blogan | oh yeah thte topic command lol | 20:24 |
| blogan | #topic Octavia hack-a-thon | 20:24 |
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| blogan | so its been moved from Dec 8, to Dec 1, and now to Dec 15 | 20:24 |
| TrevorV_ | In any of those options, I can't attend :( | 20:25 |
| blogan | Are there any objections from the few who are present today for it being on Dec 15? | 20:25 |
| dougwig | Which I actually have a small conflict now. | 20:25 |
| blogan | dougwig: fly out on the 17th | 20:25 |
| dougwig | I can only do mom-wed that week | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | I am open to any of those dates | 20:25 |
| blogan | was it going to be the entire week? | 20:25 |
| bedis | I would prefer 15th to 19th | 20:25 |
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| blogan | bedis you'll be able to fly in from paris? | 20:26 |
| bedis | yep | 20:26 |
| blogan | awesome | 20:26 |
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| blogan | wish i could attend | 20:26 |
| blogan | well anyway we won't get the exact dates until everyone gets back, but it looks like Dec 15 as a start date is good, the end date still needs some decision | 20:27 |
| TrevorV_ | So no strong objections aside from dougwig yeah? Even then doug can make it for most of it? | 20:27 |
| blogan | #action Everyone agree on end date of hack-a-thon | 20:27 |
| blogan | #topic Open Discussion | 20:28 |
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| TrevorV_ | I have a couple of topics to discuss. | 20:28 |
| blogan | go for it | 20:28 |
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| TrevorV_ | Should we actually have a "backup" command run in nova? | 20:28 |
| TrevorV_ | rm_work, (adam) has some comments to make on this | 20:28 |
| rm_work | my comment was "no" | 20:29 |
| rm_work | the end :P | 20:29 |
| blogan | there were comments on it in the spec | 20:29 |
| TrevorV_ | I know our customers (Rax) like backups, but we don't really have anything to back up for the most part | 20:29 |
| blogan | yall should have read the spec | 20:29 |
| TrevorV_ | I remember, German said something | 20:29 |
| rm_work | which spec? | 20:29 |
| rm_work | i mean, do you have a link? | 20:29 |
| blogan | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130002/8/specs/version0.5/amphora-manager-interface.rst | 20:30 |
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| rm_work | you mean http://docs.octavia.io/review/130002/specs/version0.5/amphora-manager-interface.html | 20:30 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:30 |
| blogan | sure! | 20:31 |
| blogan | well you can't see the comments | 20:31 |
| blogan | there | 20:31 |
| rm_work | I can't see the comments on the review very well either T_T | 20:31 |
| blogan | of coure there's only one comment, and it was against it :( | 20:31 |
| rm_work | trying to pick through all the patchsets, don't see any comments on the backup part | 20:32 |
| blogan | there's one | 20:32 |
| blogan | i was thinking of the suspend method | 20:32 |
| blogan | anyway | 20:32 |
| TrevorV_ | I'm looking through them as well, and can't come up with German's comment ha | 20:32 |
| rm_work | yeah also don't need that | 20:32 |
| rm_work | no suspend, no backup | 20:32 |
| blogan | we probably don't need it, and if we do end up needing it we can add it then | 20:32 |
| rm_work | why would we need those for amphorae? >_ | 20:32 |
| blogan | i can see a reason for suspend | 20:32 |
| TrevorV_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130640/5/specs/version0.5/nova-compute-driver.rst | 20:32 |
| TrevorV_ | There | 20:32 |
| rm_work | amphorae are up or broken | 20:32 |
| dougwig | We should only support backup to floppies. | 20:33 |
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| blogan | if we actually suspend an account we suspend their amphora | 20:33 |
| rm_work | err | 20:33 |
| rm_work | we should just shoot the amphorae | 20:33 |
| dougwig | A | 20:33 |
| sballe | I am here. I have this meeting starting in 27 mins | 20:33 |
| rm_work | and spin them up again if they unsuspend | 20:33 |
| blogan | sballe: time change | 20:33 |
| sballe | oh I see. | 20:33 |
| rm_work | i see no reason to bother with the complication of suspending | 20:33 |
| blogan | you mean the complication of toggling? | 20:34 |
| rm_work | and keeping the resources active and tracking them | 20:34 |
| rm_work | there is absolutely nothing stateful about the amphorae | 20:34 |
| blogan | build time | 20:34 |
| rm_work | eh, we have a pool | 20:34 |
| blogan | some may not | 20:34 |
| TrevorV_ | rm_work, so you're saying we don't need start/stop/suspend/resume/backup? | 20:34 |
| rm_work | correct | 20:35 |
| rm_work | well, is start == boot? | 20:35 |
| TrevorV_ | no | 20:35 |
| rm_work | we need two commands: boot && delete | 20:35 |
| TrevorV_ | so we don't need a get nor a status check either? | 20:35 |
| rm_work | err, those are kinda a different category (and you didn't list them above :P) | 20:35 |
| rm_work | yes i would keep status checking | 20:36 |
| rm_work | that's part of the spinup procedure | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Status has value | 20:36 |
| TrevorV_ | You said we need 2 commands, boot && delete, that's all the same "operations on amphora" category to me | 20:36 |
| blogan | well start, stop, and backup i don't know of use cases | 20:36 |
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| blogan | suspend and resume i can see uses for | 20:36 |
| rm_work | I would get rid of start/stop/suspend/resume/backup | 20:36 |
| blogan | yes i know | 20:36 |
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| rm_work | being clear now since TrevorV_ is being pedantic :P | 20:37 |
| blogan | so how bout we just leave it to reviews to decide on this | 20:37 |
| rm_work | badly pedantic IMO, since he also forgot about status in his original list :P | 20:37 |
| TrevorV_ | I don't understand why all of this wasn't discussed when ajmiller and I were concerned about it in his spec review though | 20:37 |
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| TrevorV_ | Which is accepted | 20:37 |
| blogan | i'm not strongly in favor of one or the other, just stating that there are possible use cases for a suspend/resume | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Just a process question here, this is merged. So we are re-thinking this interface? | 20:37 |
| rm_work | TrevorV_: I didn't get a chance to look at that review, not sure why people would have assumed those were necessary | 20:37 |
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| sballe | rm_work: the problem with suspend/resume is that that will depend if it is supported in the way nova is configured. It is not supported in our public cloud. | 20:38 |
| rm_work | sballe: yeah it's a complication that I don't think is necessary | 20:38 |
| blogan | johnsom: looks like it, i wouldn't want to say that since the spec got approved it must be done exactly as the spec describes | 20:38 |
| rm_work | sballe: do you agree that essentially, boot -> delete should be the entire lifecycle of an amphora? :P | 20:38 |
| rm_work | johnsom: we can patch the spec, too | 20:38 |
| rm_work | just to keep things up to date and clear | 20:39 |
| sballe | let's think. What is the usecase for suspend/resume? isn't it just as easy to delete/boot or whatever we call it? | 20:39 |
| bedis | (what's an amphora ??) | 20:39 |
| rm_work | and "status" but that's not an operation so much as an observation | 20:39 |
| rm_work | bedis: lol | 20:39 |
| blogan | sballe: the only one i can come up with is if an account is suspended, but you don't want to remove their amphorae | 20:39 |
| rm_work | sballe: yes, exactly | 20:39 |
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| blogan | and then whey they get paied up, resume | 20:39 |
| rm_work | blogan: why wouldn't you want to remove their amphorae | 20:40 |
| blogan | rm_work: like i said, build time is the only reason i can think of | 20:40 |
| blogan | and you can't assume a pool | 20:40 |
| rm_work | i don't agree with that being a valid reason >_> | 20:40 |
| blogan | its not a strong reason | 20:40 |
| rm_work | anyone who isn't going to use a pool is already shooting themselves in the foot | 20:40 |
| rm_work | I would assume a pool for any serious deployer | 20:40 |
| rm_work | and if they're not a serious deployer, they probably A) won't care, B) won't use suspend/resume | 20:41 |
| blogan | ok so they have a pool but it just got through a massive amount of load balancer creation so the pool is now empty and creating amphorae | 20:41 |
| dougwig | Backup is for pets. Amps are cattle | 20:41 |
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| TrevorV_ | dougwig, I have no idea what you just said | 20:42 |
| rm_work | blogan: then there is some wait time, that's not really avoidable | 20:42 |
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| rm_work | dougwig is saying with a metaphor what I am trying to get across | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Amps are cattle, I struggle with the backup | 20:42 |
| TrevorV_ | rm_work, it is avoidable, with suspend/resume | 20:42 |
| blogan | well if it was just suspended, a simple resume would bypass the create | 20:42 |
| blogan | im just playing devils advocate here | 20:42 |
| blogan | i think we all agree backup has 0 use cases we can come up with right now | 20:43 |
| blogan | and i appear to be the only one even entertaining the idea of suspend having exactly 1 | 20:43 |
| rm_work | I'm saying if there's enough activity to empty the pool, then it's not just suspend/resume LBs that would be problematic | 20:43 |
| rm_work | that means your pool is too small | 20:43 |
| blogan | bursts happen | 20:43 |
| rm_work | and in a *burst* it should be expected that wait time could happen | 20:43 |
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| blogan | you're arguing for the sake of arguing, im telling you its a weak use case | 20:44 |
| blogan | and i'd be fine with either decision | 20:44 |
| rm_work | I'm arguing because there's a bigger point herer | 20:44 |
| rm_work | we're putting weight on the value of a single amphora and that is dangerous | 20:44 |
| rm_work | it has to be CLEAR that they are, as dougwig put it, cattle | 20:44 |
| sballe | I agree with rm_work no need for suspend/resume | 20:44 |
| TrevorV_ | So what about start/stop sballe ? That should be removed then as well right? | 20:45 |
| rm_work | does RS actually support stop/start? | 20:45 |
| rm_work | I don't know that we do | 20:45 |
| sballe | I think we need boot/delete unless start/stop means the same | 20:45 |
| rm_work | yeah, that was my confusion | 20:46 |
| blogan | alright so someone should update the spec for this | 20:46 |
| TrevorV_ | No, start/stop is different | 20:46 |
| rm_work | but if TrevorV_ says they are different (right?) then we're good | 20:46 |
| rm_work | kk | 20:46 |
| TrevorV_ | are different*** | 20:46 |
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| sballe | so what's the difference between start and resume assuming stop means suspend | 20:46 |
| blogan | sballe: i have no idea | 20:47 |
| TrevorV_ | stop doesn't mean suspend | 20:47 |
| sballe | I'll read the spec. I am confused now | 20:47 |
| TrevorV_ | They are all distinct calls in nova | 20:47 |
| rm_work | yeah I don't think RS supports start/stop, i asked about that once | 20:47 |
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| TrevorV_ | Alright, so the spec needs changed. Got it. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | our instances are either running, or deleted (or suspended) | 20:48 |
| rm_work | I *believe* | 20:48 |
| rm_work | would need someone from nova to actually verify that | 20:48 |
| blogan | so start and stop is a pause/unpause commands, it continues to run but in a "frozen" state | 20:48 |
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| blogan | suspend stores teh state on disk and actually stops the VM | 20:48 |
| blogan | should amiller change it? | 20:49 |
| rm_work | oh, yeah then suspend would actually be *bad* | 20:49 |
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| rm_work | because then memory would be stored on disk, and we're trying to keep SSL data in memory only | 20:49 |
| rm_work | so we'd violate that by suspending T_T | 20:49 |
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| TrevorV_ | blogan, ajmiller or I would be able to do that | 20:49 |
| TrevorV_ | ajmiller's review technically was accepted and merged, so I just have to do a CR right? | 20:50 |
| blogan | ping ajmiller and ask him | 20:50 |
| blogan | he may have his reasons that we haven't heard today as well | 20:50 |
| rm_work | I think he's pretty well pinged by now ^_^ | 20:50 |
| ajmiller | Hi, I missed the start of the meeting, I'm here now, catching up on the discussion | 20:50 |
| blogan | there he is | 20:50 |
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| ajmiller | When I put those calls in the spec, my reasoning was to cover ops that can be done to a VM, and determine whether they are useful during review/discussion. | 20:51 |
| sballe | ajmiller: make sense. | 20:51 |
| blogan | ajmiller: okay so you'd be fine with remove start/stop/suspend/resume? | 20:51 |
| TrevorV_ | and backup blogan | 20:51 |
| blogan | pedantic sob | 20:51 |
| ajmiller | Yes, I'm fine with this, if the consensus is that they are not useful (or in some cases potentially harmful) | 20:52 |
| blogan | but yes what TrevorV_ said | 20:52 |
| rm_work | yeah there were not enough eyes on that review before it got merged, I think | 20:52 |
| rm_work | which is a problem I believe we've begun to work on | 20:52 |
| rm_work | just have to get people to actually look at reviews | 20:52 |
| blogan | yeah eyes have been on more reviews | 20:52 |
| rm_work | seems it is happening more now, so should be less of a problem, | 20:52 |
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| dougwig | ok, i'm done walking back from restaurant now. | 20:53 |
| ajmiller | I will be happy to do the patc. | 20:53 |
| blogan | ajmiller: would you be able to do another review that updates taht spec? | 20:53 |
| rm_work | (That last comma was a typo. I'm done. That was the end of my sentence.) | 20:53 |
| ajmiller | patch | 20:53 |
| rm_work | blogan: bam, pre-answered | 20:53 |
| blogan | ajmiller: excellent | 20:53 |
| TrevorV_ | blogan, you want to give him an "#action" then? | 20:53 |
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| blogan | yeah if you give me a chance! | 20:53 |
| blogan | #action ajmiller creates patch for computer driver interface to remove start, stop, suspend, resume, and backup methods | 20:54 |
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| * blogan sighs | 20:54 | |
| blogan | anyway, anything else from anyone? | 20:54 |
| TrevorV_ | Yes | 20:54 |
| TrevorV_ | But we don't really have time | 20:54 |
| blogan | bring it up real quick | 20:55 |
| rm_work | 6 minutes GO | 20:55 |
| TrevorV_ | Should we have "amphora_type" included in the build command via the interface? | 20:55 |
| TrevorV_ | Idk if I said that right | 20:55 |
| TrevorV_ | I was rushed | 20:55 |
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| rm_work | :P | 20:56 |
| TrevorV_ | Right now we use "amphora_type" in the build command described in the same interface we just decided to trim down. The interface though doesn't really fit for containers, and doesn't fit for bare-metal (ironic) | 20:56 |
| blogan | TrevorV_: i don't think anyone has any context for that right now, so yeah we need people to look at the review | 20:56 |
| TrevorV_ | Right, thought so | 20:56 |
| barclaac|2 | ^^ On the mid-cycle hackathon dates. Please put me out of my admin's misery soon. I've got our conf room booked for 3 weeks solid. | 20:56 |
| TrevorV_ | ha ha ha ha nice barclaac|2 | 20:57 |
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| rm_work | heh | 20:57 |
| sballe | barclaac|2: we have agreed on dec 15-19 | 20:57 |
| blogan | barclaac|2: it likely will be Dec 15th, but when it ends we don't know yet, Dec 17th at the earliest | 20:57 |
| rm_work | Well, I booked tickets up on the 13th, so I really hope it's solid by now | 20:57 |
| sballe | it is | 20:58 |
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| rm_work | Speaking of, does anyone up there have a decent couch? :P | 20:58 |
| barclaac|2 | I saw it as an open action up above so was asking. Decisions = good | 20:58 |
| rm_work | I'm on the standard Rackspace budget for this one | 20:58 |
| blogan | sballe: almost all of the midcycle meetups are only 3 days | 20:58 |
| rm_work | IE nothing | 20:58 |
| blogan | noting prevents octavia from doing 5 days though | 20:58 |
| blogan | thats why I am unsure | 20:58 |
| sballe | ok. so 15-17 and I'll break my travel rule and will travel on a Sunday | 20:58 |
| barclaac|2 | Thanks sballe | 20:59 |
| sballe | I only do that because it is you guys :-) | 20:59 |
| dougwig | i can only do 15-17, but i'll be there then | 20:59 |
| rm_work | I will plan to be available for 15-19 i think just dougwig was the 17th | 20:59 |
| rm_work | the rest of us could stay till the 19th | 20:59 |
| sballe | I'll probably leave on the 18 with the red eye back | 20:59 |
| rm_work | yeah I guess it is getting close to the holiday | 21:00 |
| blogan | alright i think we're done with the meeting | 21:00 |
| rm_work | tickets aren't cheap past the 16th T_T | 21:00 |
| blogan | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 12 21:00:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-12-20.15.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-12-20.15.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-12-20.15.log.html | 21:00 |
| TrevorV_ | later guys :) | 21:00 |
| dougwig | bye | 21:00 |
| sballe | bye | 21:00 |
| barclaac|2 | I'll send out a note to RSVP so I can plan the logistics | 21:00 |
| sballe | perfect | 21:00 |
| barclaac|2 | Also, if anyone wants hotel recommendations drop me a line. | 21:01 |
| bedis | I do :) | 21:01 |
| barclaac|2 | Sheraton is across the street. Hilton is about 2.5 blocks. Roosevelt is nice and 1 block as is the Hyatt. | 21:01 |
| barclaac|2 | There's a homewood suites about 2 blocks which is cheaper. | 21:02 |
| dougwig | can we setup an etherpad with airport/hotel/attendance list ? | 21:02 |
| dougwig | sec, i'll do that. | 21:03 |
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| dougwig | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-kilo-meetup | 21:04 |
| barclaac|2 | Thanks dougwig - I'll put some hotel info in it. | 21:04 |
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| dougwig | thank you | 21:04 |
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