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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 21 13:00:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
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| baoli | Hi there | 13:00 |
| irenab | hi | 13:01 |
| beagles | hi | 13:01 |
| rpothier | hi | 13:01 |
| sadasu | Hello! | 13:01 |
| irenab | beagles: Hi, long time... | 13:02 |
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| beagles | irenab, I've been lurking lots, but seem to miss the first 10 minutes or so ;) | 13:02 |
| baoli | beagles: hi, nice to have you back | 13:02 |
| heyongli | hi | 13:02 |
| heyongli | i'm back | 13:03 |
| baoli | heyongli, hi, hope you had a nice vacation | 13:03 |
| heyongli | yeah | 13:03 |
| baoli | heyongli, how about traffic over there during the holidays | 13:03 |
| heyongli | en, ... bad | 13:03 |
| sadasu | heyongli, hope you had a good break and celebration | 13:04 |
| heyongli | some guy alway on the way | 13:04 |
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| heyongli | s/way/road/ | 13:04 |
| irenab | good to see all are back | 13:04 |
| heyongli | i have reading the meeting log, notice there are several patches need review | 13:05 |
| heyongli | and i will take a look soon | 13:05 |
| irenab | yes, there is one for macvtap vlan assignment, currently macvtap is broken | 13:06 |
| baoli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126357/ | 13:06 |
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| baoli | Folks, I normally don't have a specific agenda. Do you guys prefer to have a general agenda for each meeting, and last open discussion? | 13:07 |
| irenab | baoli | 13:08 |
| heyongli | i see there are plug/unplug, does this mean it works now? | 13:08 |
| irenab | sounds like good idea | 13:08 |
| baoli | So any suggestions? | 13:09 |
| irenab | heyongli: without patch, macvtap is not working | 13:09 |
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| heyongli | irenab, what the plug/unplug mean there? | 13:09 |
| irenab | I think we should focus on specs to push for kilo and bugs reported for SR-IOV | 13:09 |
| baoli | heyongli, it's not for the hot plug, it's the vif plug/unplug | 13:10 |
| heyongli | got it, thank boli | 13:10 |
| heyongli | baoli | 13:10 |
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| baoli | irenab, sounds good. So we go over the bugs, review, and then blueprints, followed by issues/open discussion | 13:10 |
| irenab | baoli: +1 | 13:11 |
| heyongli | for the resize bug, i been drag to other thing weeks. i i investigating it now, and wil continue work on that | 13:11 |
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| baoli | heyongli, sounds good. | 13:12 |
| heyongli | for hotplug/unplug, i had a rough search, and | 13:12 |
| heyongli | the interface hotplug is there | 13:12 |
| heyongli | problem is buggy and lack of pci and sriov supporting | 13:12 |
| heyongli | for this feature nova interface attach/detach is a good start point to work on | 13:13 |
| baoli | heyongli, that's right. | 13:13 |
| heyongli | the pci and sriov plug/unplug is diffrent | 13:14 |
| heyongli | this interface meet the sriov request but not for pci | 13:15 |
| irenab | heyongli: generic pci and netwroking sriov? | 13:15 |
| heyongli | yeah | 13:15 |
| baoli | there may be common area for resize, hot plug and live migration, especially in the area of dealing with old/new PCI requests | 13:15 |
| baoli | or additional requests | 13:15 |
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| heyongli | sound like this situation | 13:16 |
| heyongli | hotplug is somehow stand alone but resize, migration share most of code | 13:16 |
| irenab | for my understanding interface-attach is only for networking case | 13:16 |
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| heyongli | irenab, maybe, sriov can be make when a interface attached to vm, if the port is not "normal" | 13:17 |
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| irenab | so it should somehow leverage tyhe same solution as with VM creation (pci_request, resource allocation,...) | 13:17 |
| baoli | irenab, that's right. resize will deal with general pci passthrough, but interface attatch/deattach deals with resizing (adding/removing) interfaces. | 13:18 |
| heyongli | ireab, yes, eveh now the resize is broken and buggy, the common process is there | 13:18 |
| irenab | there are also some worst case scenarios, that no more VFs are available and actually interfac-attach can fail | 13:19 |
| baoli | irenab, that's true. | 13:20 |
| heyongli | sure, but it should be allow to fail, right? lack of resource is kind of normal 'fail' case , does it problem? | 13:20 |
| irenab | heyongli: is this something you plan to deal with for kilo? or mainly focus on generic pci hot-plug? | 13:20 |
| irenab | heyongli: I agree | 13:21 |
| heyongli | i think the sriov is easy and straitfoward, | 13:21 |
| heyongli | adn i will focus on sriov first | 13:21 |
| heyongli | and sametime push generic hotplug | 13:21 |
| irenab | heyongli: are you planning some spec/blueprint? | 13:22 |
| heyongli | yeah, but not draft yet | 13:22 |
| irenab | for kilo not every development require spec | 13:22 |
| baoli | heyongli, that sounds good approach. | 13:22 |
| heyongli | what ? is there detail? | 13:22 |
| heyongli | dont' need bp? | 13:23 |
| irenab | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/kilo.blueprints.html#project-priorities | 13:23 |
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| baoli | irenab, heard it's not finalized, but still under discussion | 13:23 |
| heyongli | thanks irenab, i will check it very carefully, that's seems new trend | 13:24 |
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| irenab | heyongli: as baoli said, it is still evolving | 13:24 |
| heyongli | got, irenab. we should keep track that | 13:25 |
| baoli | Another review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125482/ | 13:25 |
| heyongli | thanks head up | 13:26 |
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| irenab | thanks, this just refactoring, right? | 13:27 |
| baoli | irenab, yes. | 13:27 |
| irenab | I have opened two bugs for documentation, didn't have time to follow up yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?search=Search&field.bug_reporter=irenab | 13:27 |
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| heyongli | irenab, do you have contributor? | 13:28 |
| irenab | heyongli: what do you mean? | 13:29 |
| heyongli | any one will work on the doc? | 13:29 |
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| irenab | heyongli: I assume someone of us who has few available cycles should take it | 13:30 |
| heyongli | i'd like talk to our planner to check if there anyone will warm up with this, it's a good start point | 13:31 |
| irenab | heyongli: This is great | 13:32 |
| heyongli | any topic today? | 13:32 |
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| heyongli | i'd like a short meeting -:) | 13:33 |
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| irenab | baoli: do you want to discuss live migration for macvtap? | 13:33 |
| baoli | irenab, yes | 13:33 |
| beagles | there was a bug reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1383345 | 13:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1383345 in nova "PCI-Passthrough : TypeError: pop() takes at most 1 argument (2 given" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:33 |
| beagles | that had to do with whitelist configuration | 13:33 |
| heyongli | great i like been update with a idea | 13:33 |
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| baoli | beagles, dan asked me to take it up | 13:34 |
| beagles | baoli, cool | 13:34 |
| heyongli | this will not a tough one baoli, -:) | 13:34 |
| baoli | heyongli, I haven't looked at closely, it's on my today's to-do list | 13:35 |
| irenab | from now on, seems every fix we should backport to stable/Juno | 13:35 |
| heyongli | baoli, great | 13:36 |
| irenab | maybe work to add links to open bugs on meeting wiki page | 13:36 |
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| baoli | irenab, right, we haven't updated that link for a while. I will do that before next meeting. | 13:37 |
| baoli | Ok, back to live migration. I am working on its nova spec. | 13:37 |
| heyongli | any rough idea to update us? | 13:37 |
| baoli | We discussed three solutions long back: network XML for each physical net, network XML for each SR-IOV interface, and interface renaming | 13:38 |
| baoli | The first one has a major drawback, which is that libvirt allocates device, and doesn't seems to have a facility to tell nova which one is allocated. | 13:39 |
| heyongli | will this work for both macvtap and direct? | 13:39 |
| baoli | heyongli, libvirt doesn't support live migration for direct sr-iov yet. | 13:40 |
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| heyongli | so first one is almos not work here | 13:40 |
| baoli | heyongli, so we'll initially support live migration on macvtap sr-iov | 13:40 |
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| heyongli | reasonable | 13:41 |
| rook | beagles: there is a new bz i opened yesterday, seems a bit more urgent to fix. | 13:41 |
| irenab | heyongli: the first one not alligned in current nova/scheduler solution | 13:41 |
| rook | beagles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1383465 | 13:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1383465 in nova "[pci-passthrough] nova-compute fails to start" [Critical,Confirmed] | 13:41 |
| baoli | The second approach would work, but requires the support of netowrk xml in Nova. | 13:41 |
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| baoli | The third approach looks like the simplest, so I'm leaning towards that | 13:42 |
| beagles | rook: ouch | 13:42 |
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| rook | beagles: yup, i can get around it... but this shouldn't be happening. dansmith is aware of the bz. | 13:43 |
| irenab | rook: was it VM with pci function as vnic or as generic pci device? | 13:43 |
| rook | passed through a 10G intel nic | 13:44 |
| heyongli | seems the pci device is not been update to pci db when it back | 13:44 |
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| heyongli | discovery pci when rebooting seems broken on first glance | 13:45 |
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| baoli | rook, with nova-compute disabled, should the VM be destroyed? | 13:46 |
| rook | baoli: so, you reboot a compute node... | 13:46 |
| rook | or a power outage. | 13:46 |
| irenab | baoli: I think VM can run even though nova-compute maybe stopped | 13:47 |
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| dansmith | yeah, restarting the compute service for any reason *has* to work | 13:47 |
| dansmith | for upgrades, for general maintenance, and because sometimes it falls over and needs to be restarted | 13:47 |
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| baoli | dansmith, that's the area that needs more work. | 13:48 |
| baoli | for pci passthrough | 13:48 |
| dansmith | well, it needs to be fixed ASAP | 13:48 |
| heyongli | need think this carefully, pci discovery stage is little late on such a situation | 13:48 |
| dansmith | it's a major problem | 13:48 |
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| baoli | dansmith: will take a look at it today. | 13:50 |
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| dansmith | thanks | 13:50 |
| rook | thanks baoli | 13:50 |
| heyongli | i can continue work on that when baoli offline | 13:51 |
| baoli | heyongli, thanks, let's work it out together. | 13:51 |
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| heyongli | yeah, keep tune, mail me if any clue or progress | 13:52 |
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| baoli | heyongli, I will comment on the bug once I found something | 13:52 |
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| heyongli | that's better than mail | 13:52 |
| irenab | so back to live migration, are all ok with interface renaming approach? | 13:53 |
| heyongli | seems suitable for now, irenab | 13:53 |
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| irenab | we had previously discussed with baoli some issues with release flow, but seems it can be worked out | 13:54 |
| heyongli | does libvirt support network xml be problem? | 13:55 |
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| baoli | heyongli, we need to add its support in Nova. | 13:56 |
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| baoli | I don't think it's being supported now. | 13:56 |
| irenab | heyongli: network xml per VF? | 13:56 |
| heyongli | i have no idea, add it to nova should not be a problem, if this approch had some thing we want, does it? | 13:57 |
| irenab | since fore network xml per physicla network we need somehow integrate with scheduler | 13:57 |
| heyongli | i mean the second one, xml per sriov interface | 13:58 |
| baoli | ok, let's think about it a little more. | 13:59 |
| baoli | We'll continue the discussion next time | 13:59 |
| irenab | ok | 13:59 |
| heyongli | ok we run of time | 13:59 |
| baoli | thanks everyone | 14:00 |
| heyongli | thanks, 88 | 14:00 |
| irenab | baoli: let me know if need help to verify bugs | 14:00 |
| irenab | thanks | 14:00 |
| baoli | irenab, sure, thanks. | 14:00 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 21 14:00:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-10-21-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-10-21-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
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| sadasu | thanks | 14:01 |
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| sc68cal | hello all | 15:00 |
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| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:00 |
| SridharG | hello | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 21 15:00:41 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:00 |
| baoli | Hi | 15:00 |
| xuhanp | hello | 15:00 |
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| dane_leblanc | Hi | 15:01 |
| SridharG | hello all | 15:01 |
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| sc68cal | Now that Juno has been cut, it's time to start filing specs for Kilo | 15:02 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, I filed one spec for extra dhcp options: | 15:03 |
| xuhanp | https://review.openstack.org/129118 | 15:03 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: perfect | 15:04 |
| xuhanp | will be great if team can review it. | 15:04 |
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| sc68cal | dane_leblanc: have you rebased your spec for Kilo? | 15:04 |
| dane_leblanc | There is one for multiple prefixes/addresses: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98217 has some reviews already | 15:04 |
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| dane_leblanc | sc68cal: Yes, it is in the new format | 15:04 |
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| aveiga | dane_leblanc: that looks like it would be a requirement for the floating addr spec I want to file | 15:05 |
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| dane_leblanc | aveiga: Looking forward to the floating IP spec | 15:05 |
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| xuhanp | I think we also need to pick up the work on the dual-stack gateway port blueprint back in Havana | 15:06 |
| xuhanp | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/allow-multiple-subnets-on-gateway-port | 15:06 |
| xuhanp | I can help file a spec for that. | 15:06 |
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| dane_leblanc | xuhanp: I was going to try fixing that with the multi-prefix blueprint | 15:06 |
| xuhanp | I checked with Shixiong about if he or Randy going to work on that one in Kilo, haven't heard from him yet. | 15:06 |
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| xuhanp | dane_leblanc, you mean in one spec? | 15:07 |
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| dane_leblanc | xuhanp: Yes, one spec. | 15:07 |
| xuhanp | dane_leblanc, great to hear that. | 15:07 |
| xuhanp | I am also available to help on that. So let me know if you need any help? | 15:08 |
| dane_leblanc | xuhanp: Could be separate spec, but it would mean more spec overhead | 15:08 |
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| dane_leblanc | xuhanp: Thanks, probably will need some help/opinions | 15:08 |
| haleyb | And I also saw a review for prefix delegation, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93054/ - seems as something a provider would want since "bring your own prefix" won't work very well | 15:09 |
| xuhanp | dane_leblanc, I am just worried about too much code to submit for one spec. It's fine if you want to hold them in one spec. | 15:10 |
| HenryG | haleyb: Yes, IMO ipv6 should autodelegate where possible since that is part of its appeal | 15:10 |
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| dane_leblanc | xuhanp: Code size doesn't look very large for the multi-addresses on gateway ports | 15:11 |
| xuhanp | dane_leblanc, OK. sounds great. | 15:11 |
| aveiga | HenryG: actually, I'd expect it to follow Solicit hints | 15:11 |
| haleyb | HenryG: yes, even if neutron just manually assigned a prefix when the ipv6 box is checked, like a FIP | 15:11 |
| aveiga | instead of auto-delegate | 15:11 |
| aveiga | we'd have to work out the allocation algorithm there, because a client may only hint for a /64 where a net was allowed a /48 ... | 15:12 |
| HenryG | aveiga: Good point, I agree | 15:12 |
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| HenryG | aveiga: I was thinking more abstractly, for tenants that don't really care but just want things to work. And operators that want the defaults to "just work". | 15:15 |
| aveiga | well, we could work that out in the api | 15:15 |
| aveiga | something like "advertise a /64 unless hinted" | 15:15 |
| aveiga | based on network attributes | 15:15 |
| HenryG | aveiga: exactly, yes | 15:16 |
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| HenryG | aveiga: So I (or someone) will check with you for the details on the prefix delegation spec. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | yes, for "just work" we need a way to fill-in the default ipv6 prefix for a tenant with one that is globally routable. I'll admit I have some reading to do on the options... | 15:18 |
| aveiga | HenryG: heh, I'm no authority, but I'd be glad to part of the conversation :) | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | so | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | this is super old, but | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/IPv6/PrefixDelegation | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | aveiga and I whiteboarded it a while ago | 15:19 |
| HenryG | sc68cal: Thanks for pointing that out | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | Basically I wanted to make it so a user would just do an API request that says "hey give me a prefix" and we'd do the heavy lifting | 15:20 |
| aveiga | sc68cal: we need to revisit that, especially the logic around ordering (which objects exist first?) and scheduling logic | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | +1, for example, having a check box in horizon. You can put me on the list as someone interested in working on it | 15:22 |
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| SridharG | We have one old BP in launchpad related to DHCPV6 relay agent - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dnsmasq-ipv6-dhcpv6-relay-agent | 15:23 |
| aveiga | SridharG: so I actually have a question about that | 15:24 |
| aveiga | what's the target use case? | 15:24 |
| sc68cal | to be honest we have not seen or heard from the drafter for a long time | 15:24 |
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| aveiga | I think that's for using an external dhcpv6 server | 15:25 |
| sc68cal | and also it was accepted prior to the new neutron-specs workflow, so I don't know if we need to worry about it unless someone files a neutron-spec | 15:25 |
| SridharG | sc68cal: yes, its an old one. | 15:26 |
| aveiga | I'm wondering if it's actually necessary. You could potentially just run a service VM listening with a relay running | 15:26 |
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| aveiga | since I'd assume that net would have dhcpv6 set to off... | 15:26 |
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| HenryG | There is a separate DHCP relay BP. Looking for it .... | 15:27 |
| SridharG | aveiga: IMO I think its for an external Centralised DHCPV6 server. | 15:27 |
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| aveiga | yup | 15:27 |
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| aveiga | the local impact seems to be acting as a relay for a non-OpenStack dhcvp6 | 15:28 |
| aveiga | so again, I think that's solved through NFV work instead :) | 15:28 |
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| aveiga | just run the relay agent as a service VM and be done with it | 15:28 |
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| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-relay | 15:28 |
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| aveiga | I think this is entering nice to have territory, and not really core feature space | 15:30 |
| aveiga | we still have lots of things to work on that Neutron has to handle | 15:30 |
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| aveiga | and this is something that can be accomplished without requiring Neutron intervention at the moment, so I vote to either backlog it or not bother | 15:31 |
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| SridharG | aveiga: sure, np. | 15:31 |
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| haleyb | and since someone asked me the other day, how painful would it be to do privacy extensions/temp addresses? It's not on the top of my list by any means, but someone will want it by the L release. Core things are more importatnt now | 15:32 |
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| aveiga | impossible | 15:32 |
| aveiga | we cannot mathematically predict the address (that's the point of PE) | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | well, you can remove all the port anti-spoof filters | 15:33 |
| aveiga | so we can't do anti-spoofing rules | 15:33 |
| aveiga | it's in violation of the BIS stating that you shouldn't use PE on servers | 15:33 |
| aveiga | I mean, that's one of those things that's a "you're on your own" deal | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | yeah we've been pretty consistent throughout the life of this subteam, not really entertaining PE feature requests | 15:34 |
| aveiga | it can be done in SLAAC mode, and you have to disable the filters | 15:34 |
| haleyb | I know, and that's what I said back, but people will continue to ask | 15:34 |
| sc68cal | we'll make a FAQ ;) | 15:34 |
| aveiga | but as soon as you start disabling built-in security features, that's where I shake my head | 15:34 |
| aveiga | yeah, that can be done up in docs, honestly | 15:34 |
| haleyb | i will continue to say it's unsupported | 15:35 |
| aveiga | because there's no way to get proper support in | 15:35 |
| aveiga | unless we intercept DAD/ND | 15:35 |
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| haleyb | feel free to move on to more important things... | 15:35 |
| aveiga | ok | 15:35 |
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| xuhanp | One quick notice: I am still waiting for more feedback for sending out Neighbor advertisement message for IPv6 | 15:36 |
| xuhanp | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048373.html | 15:36 |
| xuhanp | last time we were talking about make ryu a dependency is too big | 15:37 |
| baoli | xuhanp, can you clarify the use case for the unsolicited NA | 15:38 |
| xuhanp | It's for router to advise itself after HA replacement. | 15:39 |
| xuhanp | it's documented in one RFC, I may need time to find that for you | 15:39 |
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| xuhanp | You can also check the email list in Sep | 15:39 |
| baoli | xuhanp, ok, I'm trying to think of a case where it's required. | 15:40 |
| xuhanp | it's like the function of ARP in HA case | 15:40 |
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| xuhanp | but I've been spending some time on finding the right solution to send out the unsolicited NA | 15:41 |
| SridharG | xuhanp: I hope this is the link you were referring to - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044602.html | 15:42 |
| xuhanp | SridharG, that's right. Thanks a lot! | 15:43 |
| baoli | SridharG, thanks. | 15:43 |
| SridharG | xuhanp: baoli: np, your welcome. | 15:44 |
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| SridharG | I submitted a patch for the Bug#1382076 | 15:47 |
| SridharG | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129865/ | 15:48 |
| SridharG | I'll be happy to hear the review comments.. | 15:48 |
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| baoli | SridharG, will take a look. | 15:50 |
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| SridharG | baoli: thanks. | 15:50 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, I need to look at it in more detail. But would the VRRP protocol (or keepalived which implements it) takes care of sending the NA after failover? | 15:53 |
| xuhanp | baoli, exactly, but there are cases HA is not configured. So we should take care those cases like IPv4 | 15:53 |
| xuhanp | ARP is not sent out when VRRP keepalived is configured | 15:54 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, ok still confused. In the case of HA not being configured, would radvd do the same? | 15:55 |
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| xuhanp | radvd only take care of internal router interface. we still need to take care external gateway port when router is failed over to another host | 15:56 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, so this is to cover the NA to the gateway port (failover or not) on the neutron router. | 15:58 |
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| sc68cal | looks like we're out of time | 15:59 |
| sc68cal | let's take it to the ML and keep the thread alive that xuhanp started | 15:59 |
| xuhanp | baoli, maybe talk another time? | 15:59 |
| baoli | xuhanp, sure. | 15:59 |
| sc68cal | until next week everyone! | 15:59 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 21 15:59:53 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-21-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-21-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-21-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| dimtruck | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 21 16:01:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dimtruck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 16:01 |
| dimtruck | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 16:01 |
| dimtruck | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
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| devkulkarni | Devdatta | 16:01 |
| gpilz | Gil Pilz | 16:01 |
| muralia | murali allada | 16:01 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 16:01 |
| dimtruck | Dimitry Ushakov | 16:01 |
| james_li | james li | 16:01 |
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| dimtruck | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
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| dimtruck | (none on the wiki) | 16:02 |
| dimtruck | anyone have specific announcements they'd like to make? | 16:02 |
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| dimtruck | if you think of announcements in other parts of the meeting, we can get back to them in the open discussion part | 16:04 |
| dimtruck | #topic Review Action Items | 16:04 |
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| dimtruck | (none on the wiki) | 16:04 |
| dimtruck | anyone have any action items they'd like to discuss? | 16:04 |
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| gpilz | yes | 16:04 |
| dimtruck | ok gpilz - the floor is yours | 16:05 |
| gpilz | i had an unofficial action item to talk to Pierre about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115685/ | 16:05 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 16:05 |
| devkulkarni | how did that go? | 16:05 |
| gpilz | i contacted him and he said I could take the helm on this | 16:05 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 16:05 |
| devkulkarni | currently | 16:06 |
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| devkulkarni | it looks like Jenkins is complaining.. probably it needs a rebase | 16:06 |
| gpilz | i'm going to need a bit of help with review.opentstack.org making that happen | 16:06 |
| devkulkarni | gpliz: sure | 16:06 |
| gpilz | needs a rebase and, as we discussed, needs to process Accept headers properly | 16:06 |
| devkulkarni | oh! its the proper HTTP 1.1 way | 16:07 |
| devkulkarni | that you wanted right? | 16:07 |
| devkulkarni | I thought there was a separate bug that I had created for it | 16:07 |
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| gpilz | do you have a reference to that bug? | 16:07 |
| gpilz | i didn't see it | 16:07 |
| devkulkarni | let me check.. in any case it will be implemented only after we get this current patch landed | 16:08 |
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| devkulkarni | we can take a call whether to integrate that in the current patch or do it as a separate one | 16:08 |
| gpilz | okay | 16:08 |
| devkulkarni | is there anything else on this topic? | 16:09 |
| gpilz | nope | 16:09 |
| devkulkarni | if not dimtruck you can move to the next topic | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | #action revisit this topic once the current patch has landed | 16:09 |
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| dimtruck | ok, cool. any other action items? | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 16:10 |
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| dimtruck | (devkulkarni) Quick status check of conversion of bash scripts to Python (do this only if ravips is around) | 16:10 |
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| devkulkarni | currently we have lot of core functionality in bash scripts | 16:10 |
| dimtruck | i don't see ravips on | 16:10 |
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| devkulkarni | this topic is to convert those to Python so that we can harden that stuff with tests | 16:10 |
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| muralia | this is a work item we should get started on. we should email ravi and get an update. | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | ravips has started on it I believe, so just wanted to see what the status is | 16:11 |
| muralia | cool | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: yes, good point. I will take that as an action item | 16:11 |
| dimtruck | we can take an action item to follow up with him either on #solum or the next meeting | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck, you can assign that to me | 16:12 |
| dimtruck | #action devkulkarni to follow up with ravips regarding bash script to python conversion | 16:12 |
| dimtruck | moving on to: (devkulkarni) Quick status check of WSGI issue that dimtruck was investigating | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | okay. | 16:12 |
| dimtruck | i have a few updates on this | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: let me give the problem description first | 16:12 |
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| dimtruck | so the issue is that using wsgiref.simple_server to spin up http server for solum, there are issues with hanging requests on methods not defined in Pecan | 16:13 |
| devkulkarni | so the issue that we are running into is when a call arrives for a resource which expects body but if body is not provided, our server will hang | 16:13 |
| dimtruck | right | 16:13 |
| dimtruck | so there are a multitude of solutions to this, mainly replacing the simple_server dependency | 16:13 |
| devkulkarni | this is bad as it becomes a vector for denial-of-service attack on our server | 16:13 |
| dimtruck | correct | 16:14 |
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| dimtruck | we can alleviate this by removing simple_server dependency and utilizing mod_wsgi instead | 16:14 |
| dimtruck | this was already done in keystone | 16:14 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: I read your comment about mod_wsgi | 16:14 |
| devkulkarni | but I don't understand where would we specify it? | 16:14 |
| dimtruck | so this would be an apache configuration | 16:15 |
| devkulkarni | is it part of devstack setup? | 16:15 |
| dimtruck | correct | 16:15 |
| muralia | to fix this issue, do we just need to replace the app server? | 16:15 |
| devkulkarni | are we currently configuring anything related to apache on devstack? | 16:15 |
| dimtruck | instead of jsut directly spinning up an http server we have apache server doing this | 16:15 |
| dimtruck | keystone runs apache | 16:15 |
| dimtruck | i have to verify if this is in devstack; however. i haven't done that | 16:15 |
| devkulkarni | so you are saying we should look at keystone's devstack setup | 16:16 |
| dimtruck | right | 16:16 |
| devkulkarni | okay | 16:16 |
| devkulkarni | do you want to do that investigation and come back with more insights on how to use it? | 16:16 |
| dimtruck | i'll update the bug and put more step-by-step details in the report for next week | 16:16 |
| dimtruck | yes sir | 16:16 |
| gpilz | are there any ripple effects into the API of doing this? | 16:16 |
| dimtruck | nope! | 16:16 |
| devkulkarni | good question gpliz | 16:16 |
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| dimtruck | simple_server is only utilized to spin up the http server to host Pecan wsgi | 16:17 |
| devkulkarni | I would imagine dimtruck's investigation should include that question | 16:17 |
| james_li | another issue related to this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1359516 | 16:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1359516 in solum "Needs to handle http header 'X-Forwarded-Proto'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:17 |
| james_li | solum ignores X-Forwarded-Proto header | 16:17 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1359516 | 16:17 |
| james_li | and never return https endpoints | 16:17 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: please elaborate | 16:18 |
| dimtruck | looks like we can definitely kill 2 birds with 1 stone with this effort | 16:18 |
| dimtruck | thanks james_li | 16:18 |
| devkulkarni | oh, so mod_wsgi will also resolve the bug that james_li pointed out? | 16:18 |
| james_li | yeah that one just jump into my mind, sorry | 16:18 |
| dimtruck | hmm, looking into more details here, this might be something different | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | looks like that is something different | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | right | 16:19 |
| dimtruck | i'll research more into that and see | 16:19 |
| james_li | ok | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | ok cool | 16:19 |
| devkulkarni | so dimtruck, could you please make sure that you take into account gpilz's question as part of your investigation? | 16:20 |
| dimtruck | #action dimtruck to follow up on bugs 1359516 and investigate for any specific issues in replacing simple_server with mod_wsgi | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1359516 in solum "Needs to handle http header 'X-Forwarded-Proto'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359516 | 16:20 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks dimtruck | 16:20 |
| dimtruck | (devkulkarni) Solum installation guide | 16:20 |
| devkulkarni | ok, so about this.. | 16:21 |
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| devkulkarni | on friday last week, someone reached out to us on the solum channel asking whether we have installation guide to install solum on multi-node OpenStack | 16:21 |
| devkulkarni | I have created the linked bug to track that request | 16:21 |
| devkulkarni | I wanted to brainstorm with everyone | 16:22 |
| devkulkarni | what would require for installing solum on such a setup? | 16:23 |
| devkulkarni | we have the vagrant setup | 16:23 |
| dimtruck | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1382660 | 16:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382660 in solum "Create installation instructions" [Undecided,New] | 16:23 |
| devkulkarni | how much work would it take for us to go from that devstack setup to a multi-node setup? has anyone tried this before with any other OpenStack services? | 16:23 |
| devkulkarni | I remember recently seeing an email from the docs team where they had a guide on OpenStack installation. | 16:24 |
| devkulkarni | my initial thought is we can start with multi-node setup for any other OS service and add required solum services to the mix piece-by-piece | 16:24 |
| dimtruck | #link http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/configuring-multiple-compute-nodes.html | 16:25 |
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| dimtruck | this is what i've found in my research | 16:25 |
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| dimtruck | it's for nova | 16:25 |
| devkulkarni | thanks dimtruck for the link | 16:25 |
| devkulkarni | one of the main blockers for us for the mulit-node setup is going to be the shelve dependency | 16:25 |
| dimtruck | i'm not sure, however, what it would take to have the entire devstack scale out like that | 16:25 |
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| devkulkarni | we cannot use barbican yet, so probably we should think about adding a solum table instead of using shelve | 16:26 |
| devkulkarni | what do you all think? | 16:26 |
| dimtruck | agree with shelving shelve :) | 16:26 |
| james_li | +1 | 16:27 |
| devkulkarni | muralia, gpilz: thoughts? | 16:27 |
| muralia | thats true, shelve will be a blocker. | 16:27 |
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| muralia | for multinode we should just use barbican | 16:28 |
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| muralia | and not replicate key storage | 16:28 |
| dimtruck | that might be our biggest bottleneck. Here's another doc on how to set up devstack on multiple nodes. Not sure how up to date it is though: http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html | 16:28 |
| gpilz | no opinion (not qualified) | 16:28 |
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| dimtruck | muralia: +1 on that | 16:28 |
| dimtruck | cool, so who wants to volunteer on doing this research? | 16:29 |
| dimtruck | essentially setting up a multi-node devstack and putting together a spec for replacing shelve (do we need a spec)? | 16:29 |
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| james_li | devkulkarni: when we switch to barbican later, how about the migration work? | 16:30 |
| devkulkarni1 | james_li: good point. we should be using alembic to do that | 16:30 |
| muralia | we dont need a spec for replacing shelve. solum already works with barbican. theres nothing new to add. | 16:30 |
| devkulkarni1 | how about tables within solum itself | 16:30 |
| devkulkarni1 | agree we don't need a spec | 16:31 |
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| muralia | hmm, I'm not sure we want to add tables in Solum to store keys. Why duplicate that work. | 16:32 |
| devkulkarni1 | apart from shelve are there any other issues that stand out? | 16:32 |
| dimtruck | yay for no spec. So I can volunteer on spinning up a multi-node devstack with solum and come back to the team with my findings. We can find out then if there are any other issues. | 16:32 |
| devkulkarni1 | thanks dimtruck | 16:32 |
| dimtruck | devkulkarni1: not to me at this time | 16:32 |
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| dimtruck | #action dimtruck to report back results of multi-node devstack with solum setup | 16:33 |
| dimtruck | so then at this time, do we keep shelve until barbican is "ready"? | 16:33 |
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| dimtruck | and just repro it on every node? | 16:33 |
| devkulkarni1 | we can try adding barbican to the mix | 16:34 |
| dimtruck | cool! | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | so I would say in your investigation if it is not too much of hassle, try adding barbican to the mix | 16:34 |
| dimtruck | barbican_disabled: False in solum.conf Done! | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | if it does turn out its not possible, then I don't see any other option that adding tables to Solum | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | or have a nfs | 16:35 |
| devkulkarni1 | based solution for handling shelve's backend | 16:35 |
| dimtruck | cool! | 16:35 |
| devkulkarni1 | but that will be too much compared to adding tables to Solum | 16:36 |
| devkulkarni1 | okay | 16:36 |
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| dimtruck | We can then "shelve" it until we find out whether barbican works for us in its present form | 16:36 |
| dimtruck | (i'm all punny today) | 16:36 |
| dimtruck | ok, moving on | 16:36 |
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| dimtruck | #topic Cutting Juno Release | 16:36 |
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| dimtruck | (nothing on the wiki) | 16:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | probably adrian_otto might be doing it before the summit | 16:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | it will be good to take a look at what we achieved as a team in Juno | 16:37 |
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| dimtruck | hmmm, he won't be around next week as well..and the week after is the summit | 16:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | I remember we had speced three "milestones" | 16:37 |
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| devkulkarni1 | Juno-1, Juno-2, Juno-3 | 16:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | I don't remember at the top of my head — but some things that come to mind are: | 16:38 |
| devkulkarni1 | custom language pack support, CI support | 16:38 |
| devkulkarni1 | integration with private github repos | 16:38 |
| devkulkarni1 | integration of CAMP | 16:38 |
| dimtruck | retry check | 16:39 |
| devkulkarni1 | that's right — retry check | 16:39 |
| devkulkarni1 | initial stages of the logging work | 16:39 |
| devkulkarni1 | that list looks nice | 16:39 |
| dimtruck | +1 | 16:39 |
| muralia | +1 | 16:40 |
| devkulkarni1 | hopefully we will have a complete list when adrian_otto cuts the final Juno release | 16:40 |
| dimtruck | cool! should i add it as an action item for next week? | 16:40 |
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| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: yes, that will be appropriate | 16:40 |
| dimtruck | #action adrian_otto to cut the final Juno release | 16:40 |
| devkulkarni1 | the summit is fast approaching and we should have a release cut soon | 16:40 |
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| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: you can move on to the next topic | 16:41 |
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| dimtruck | #topic October Elections | 16:41 |
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| devkulkarni1 | so adrian_otto is supposed to communicate about this I believe | 16:41 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets just carry that forward to the next meeting | 16:41 |
| dimtruck | so last week we decided to hold off 'til this week to see if there's a challenger | 16:41 |
| dimtruck | so he wanted the campaign to be until 10/27 with the election on 10/28 | 16:42 |
| dimtruck | our next meeting is on 10/28 | 16:42 |
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| devkulkarni1 | I see | 16:42 |
| devkulkarni1 | is there an email out? | 16:42 |
| dimtruck | not sure if we wanted to postpone it one more day...leaving it to you guys to decide | 16:42 |
| dimtruck | not sure if there's an email but last week's meeting minutes covered the gist of it :) | 16:43 |
| devkulkarni1 | yeah, may be we should do that | 16:43 |
| devkulkarni1 | oh okay | 16:43 |
| dimtruck | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c4fe855cbbc45b30f38b | 16:43 |
| dimtruck | a quick gist with the relevant conversation | 16:43 |
| muralia | we should wait for more people. lets give it one more week. | 16:44 |
| dimtruck | that's fair | 16:45 |
| dimtruck | let's move on then and carry this item over to next week | 16:45 |
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| dimtruck | #topic Open Discussion | 16:45 |
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| gpilz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128768/ | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni1 | okay, I have one topic | 16:46 |
| gpilz | needs reviewers | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni1 | gpilz: will look at it | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni1 | and actually my topic was relevant to this as well | 16:46 |
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| devkulkarni1 | so dimtruck and mkam realized that camp default being on causes lot of functional tests to fail | 16:47 |
| gpilz | really? | 16:47 |
| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: could you elaborate on the issue for us please? | 16:47 |
| devkulkarni1 | yeah | 16:47 |
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| dimtruck | sure, so if we install solum without camp, all the camp-specific functional tests return a 404 response code | 16:47 |
| dimtruck | that's the gist of it :) | 16:48 |
| devkulkarni1 | right | 16:48 |
| gpilz | oh - that make sense | 16:48 |
| devkulkarni1 | right | 16:48 |
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| devkulkarni1 | so gpilz I wanted to revisit the discussion that we had had sometime back | 16:49 |
| gpilz | but that isn't "the default being on causes a lot of tests to fail" | 16:49 |
| gpilz | that's "if you change things from the default configuration, some tests fail" | 16:49 |
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| gpilz | I can change my tests to be no-ops if CAMP isn't enabled | 16:49 |
| devkulkarni1 | gpilz: yeah, you are right.. I got the wording wrong.. main point was | 16:49 |
| devkulkarni1 | not everyone would run camp | 16:50 |
| devkulkarni1 | okay, that would make sense | 16:50 |
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| devkulkarni1 | gpilz: you can do that as a separate patch | 16:50 |
| gpilz | right | 16:51 |
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| devkulkarni1 | cool | 16:51 |
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| dimtruck | awesome! | 16:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | are there any other topics/things that anyone have on mind? | 16:52 |
| dimtruck | we should probably think of doing that for some other work | 16:52 |
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| dimtruck | such as barbican-specific tests | 16:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: makes sense | 16:52 |
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| dimtruck | if we have any...not sure that we do at this time | 16:52 |
| dimtruck | alright! | 16:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | dimtruck: could you or mkam take an action item on this please? | 16:53 |
| dimtruck | if there are no other topics to discuss, i'll end the meeting | 16:53 |
| dimtruck | oh sure! | 16:53 |
| dimtruck | #action gpilz to add no-ops if CAMP is not enabled | 16:53 |
| dimtruck | #action mkam to add no-ops if BARBICAN is disabled | 16:53 |
| dimtruck | thanks everyone for attending! | 16:54 |
| devkulkarni1 | thanks dimtruck | 16:54 |
| dimtruck | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| devkulkarni1 | thanks everyone | 16:54 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 21 16:54:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-21-16.01.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-21-16.01.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-21-16.01.log.html | 16:54 |
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| lifeless | is this the right time? | 19:01 |
| jdob | yes | 19:01 |
| jdob | at least, i think so too | 19:01 |
| lifeless | yay | 19:01 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: tap tap :) | 19:01 |
| jdob | so we're either both right or consistently wrong | 19:01 |
| jdob | er | 19:02 |
| jdob | what the hell was i trying to say there? | 19:02 |
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| * jdob makes more coffee | 19:02 | |
| Ng | jdob: you were trying to say that it's party time in meeting city! | 19:02 |
| jdob | \o= | 19:02 |
| tchaypo | \o | 19:02 |
| * bnemec is pretty sure it's the right time, but has no idea if it's the right week | 19:02 | |
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| Ng | it should be, my phone blorped at me | 19:02 |
| cinerama | meeting sign! | 19:03 |
| ChuckC | \o | 19:03 |
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| GheRivero | o/ | 19:03 |
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| rwsu | o/ | 19:04 |
| rbrady | \o | 19:04 |
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| tchaypo | I'd offer to run the meeting but I've been awake for 5 minutes | 19:06 |
| cinerama | tchaypo: ...and? :) | 19:07 |
| tchaypo | If spamaps isn't around, does anyone else want to jump in? | 19:07 |
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| greghaynes | give this guy some caffeine and a megaphone | 19:07 |
| tchaypo | And I'm on my iPhone :p | 19:07 |
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| cinerama | iMeeting | 19:07 |
| * greghaynes is on phone also so probably shouldmt run mtg | 19:08 | |
| cinerama | hmm the agenda on the wiki looks a little stale? | 19:08 |
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| tchaypo | Stale one-off items? | 19:09 |
| bnemec | No, I think that's from last week. | 19:09 |
| bnemec | I seem to recall getting pinged about it at 2 AM. :-) | 19:09 |
| cinerama | oh okay, because it said "next meeting is Oct 7" | 19:09 |
| bnemec | Ah, yeah the date is old, but I think the agenda items are recent. | 19:10 |
| tchaypo | Heh | 19:10 |
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| cinerama | so i can do the copypasta stuff, if someone can help me | 19:10 |
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| greghaynes | yep, go for it! | 19:10 |
| cinerama | by pointing out whether i'm doing the meeting horribly wrong :) | 19:10 |
| cinerama | righto! | 19:10 |
| cinerama | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 21 19:10:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cinerama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:10 |
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| tchaypo | Good start | 19:11 |
| cinerama | oksohi | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #topic agenda | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * bugs | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * reviews | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * Projects needing releases | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * CD Cloud status | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * CI | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:11 | |
| cinerama | * Tuskar | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * Specs | 19:11 |
| cinerama | * open discussion | 19:11 |
| cinerama | Remember that anyone can use the link and info commands, not just the moderator - if you have something worth noting in the meeting minutes feel free to tag it | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #topic bugs | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:11 | |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:11 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:11 |
| cinerama | (so do we usually talk about the bugs now?) | 19:12 |
| bnemec | Usually criticals | 19:12 |
| bnemec | I'm seeing two in tripleo | 19:12 |
| bnemec | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1188067 | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1188067 in tripleo "* listening services available on all addresses" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:12 |
| bnemec | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1374626 | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374626 in tripleo "UIDs of data-owning users might change between deployed images" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:12 |
| tchaypo | The first one is assigned to me, I think | 19:13 |
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| tchaypo | I flagged it as critical | 19:13 |
| bnemec | Yep, looks like | 19:13 |
| cinerama | we also have a critical in os-cloud-config | 19:13 |
| tchaypo | It came up because jp security noticed our under cloud node listing on *:53 | 19:13 |
| cinerama | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config/+bug/1382275 | 19:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382275 in os-cloud-config "new register-nodes does not accept ints for numeric input" [Critical,In progress] | 19:13 |
| tchaypo | and more importantly the Internet had noticed and it was being used to ddos people | 19:13 |
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| cinerama | yikes | 19:14 |
| bnemec | 1374626 is assigned to SpamapS, so no update unless he arrives. | 19:14 |
| bnemec | What is on port 53? | 19:14 |
| tchaypo | We've fixed this for most services by putting them behind haproxy and controlling where it listens | 19:14 |
| * bnemec hopes it isn't something really obvious | 19:14 | |
| tchaypo | Dnsmasq, run by neutron | 19:15 |
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| greghaynes | bnemec: dns | 19:15 |
| GheRivero | I took ownership of the critical one in os-cloud-config | 19:16 |
| bnemec | Ah, interesting that they firewall everything else, but that's allowed to listen on public interfaces. | 19:16 |
| tchaypo | And now that I think about it, perhaps this is something I should be raising with neutron | 19:16 |
| bnemec | So do we have a plan for addressing that? | 19:16 |
| cinerama | yup looks like GheRivero has a proposed fix for 1382275 (which could use some review love) | 19:16 |
| tchaypo | The quick fix for hp2 has been some manual up tables rules to block it | 19:16 |
| greghaynes | yea, dns is an annoying one because its udp, so you have to either try and stateful udp which is annoying or leave it open | 19:16 |
| tchaypo | Oh. I love ghe | 19:17 |
| greghaynes | anywho, sidetracked | 19:17 |
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| tchaypo | I'll review GheRivero 's patch.oving on | 19:17 |
| cinerama | k shall we move on to reviews, on that note? | 19:17 |
| bnemec | #action Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129950/ | 19:17 |
| GheRivero | it needs some unittest but it's ok | 19:17 |
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| greghaynes | With the uid mapping one, we had an email thread, im not sure it reached a consensus | 19:18 |
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| greghaynes | it might be worth resurrecting that thread | 19:18 |
| bnemec | Summit topic? | 19:18 |
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| greghaynes | oh | 19:18 |
| greghaynes | yes, ill resurrect and ask if we want to discuss more at summit or if we have a consensus | 19:18 |
| greghaynes | #action greghaynes to resurrect uid mapping and ask if we want to discuss more at summit or if we have a consensus | 19:18 |
| tchaypo | Is there a spec up for review? | 19:19 |
| cinerama | summit is close enough that that sounds like an excellent opportunity to iron it out more quickly than email back-and-forth | 19:19 |
| tchaypo | Or a change? | 19:19 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: pretty sure no | 19:19 |
| cinerama | iirc there was a proposed change that attracted discussion | 19:19 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: I think the fix might live entirely internally ATM, actually :( | 19:19 |
| greghaynes | anywho, resurrecting the thread will hopefully answer these questions :) | 19:20 |
| cinerama | i *thought* i saw it come up for review recently | 19:20 |
| bnemec | greghaynes: +1 | 19:20 |
| bnemec | Whoa, I just zoomed my whole screen somehow | 19:20 |
| cinerama | haha | 19:21 |
| tchaypo | Haha | 19:21 |
| cinerama | so is that it for the bugs? | 19:21 |
| bnemec | So, last question I have on this topic is do we have a path forward for 1188067? | 19:21 |
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| tchaypo | Oh, I misread earlier comment | 19:21 |
| tchaypo | And though ghe had provided a patch | 19:22 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, multiple bug discussions happening at once. :-) | 19:22 |
| tchaypo | I think we can get a list of interfaces to listen on from heat | 19:22 |
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| tchaypo | We already use that lost to control where haproxy listens for things | 19:22 |
| tchaypo | As long as neutron have a hook that we can use to set the interfaces that should be sufficient | 19:23 |
| greghaynes | Im pretty sure we decided that services should not bind on all interfaces by default (for this reason) and then we should explicitly list services that should listen on public interfaces | 19:23 |
| greghaynes | so this sounds like just a missed case of that? | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | If neutron doesn't we can raise it with the | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | And as a fallback, it's be easy to manually block with up tables | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | *iptables | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: That's how I interpret it | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | Moving on? | 19:24 |
| bnemec | +1 | 19:24 |
| cinerama | #topic reviews | 19:25 |
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| cinerama | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 19:25 |
| cinerama | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:25 |
| cinerama | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:25 |
| cinerama | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:25 |
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| cinerama | ... | 19:26 |
| tchaypo | Queue growth in last 30 is now at 0.9/day | 19:26 |
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| tchaypo | (Bottom of 30 day report) | 19:26 |
| tchaypo | But | 19:27 |
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| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 6 days, 5 hours, 51 minutes | 19:27 |
| tchaypo | Thats down from almost 2 weeks | 19:27 |
| jdob | \o/ | 19:28 |
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| cinerama | wtg reviewing people | 19:28 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, it seems like the flow of patches coming in must have slowed down. Not sure whether that's good or not. | 19:28 |
| tchaypo | We talked about trying to be proactive wrt first timers | 19:29 |
| tchaypo | But I don't know if that has been actioned at all | 19:29 |
| jdob | also the end of a release, it makes sense that things would quiet a bit before summit | 19:29 |
| bnemec | True | 19:29 |
| cinerama | we could look into doing a more formal "patch pilot" program | 19:29 |
| cinerama | to encourage folks to contribute | 19:30 |
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| tchaypo | Maybe we can discuss on list/summit? | 19:30 |
| cinerama | that sounds good, though i won't be at summit | 19:31 |
| cinerama | anyway so is that enough on reviews for now? | 19:31 |
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| bnemec | wfm | 19:32 |
| cinerama | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:32 |
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| cinerama | so...are there any? :) | 19:32 |
| greghaynes | we should, its more a question of who ;) | 19:33 |
| greghaynes | I really want to learn how, actually | 19:33 |
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| jdob | i just did them last thursday, do we really need them weekly? | 19:33 |
| jdob | there weren't a ton of changes when i last did them | 19:33 |
| cinerama | good qn | 19:33 |
| greghaynes | jdob: can I do it and try and poke you for support? | 19:33 |
| jdob | it's not a hard or really time consuming process | 19:33 |
| jdob | greghaynes: ya, absolutely | 19:33 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 19:33 |
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| jdob | you'll need perms before you can. before i got them, lifeless asked me to quickly talk with someone about the process | 19:34 |
| greghaynes | #action greghaynes to learn how to release all the things | 19:34 |
| jdob | so if you want to read up about it and ping me just to double check you're clear, i'll vouch for you | 19:34 |
| greghaynes | jdob: ok. good time to do that when theres nothing pressing to go out then :) | 19:35 |
| jdob | very true :D | 19:35 |
| ccrouch | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105275/ is a nice change in DIB yesterday i'd like to see released | 19:35 |
| cinerama | maybe it would be a good week for greghaynes to do a release for practice if there are not many things going out | 19:35 |
| jdob | cinerama: agreed | 19:35 |
| jdob | i'd have argued more to skip it if it wasnt going to be an opportunity to train another | 19:35 |
| jdob | "train"... its really not that hard :) | 19:35 |
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| cinerama | mmkay, anything else on reviews? | 19:36 |
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| greghaynes | s/reviews/releases, nerp | 19:37 |
| ccrouch | i like the weekly cadence. then there is no doubt whether your change is going out or not, and each release delta is small in case of regressions | 19:37 |
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| cinerama | greghaynes: indeed | 19:37 |
| ccrouch | so +1 greghaynes :-) | 19:37 |
| jdob | ccrouch: that sounds like you volunteering to help out :D | 19:37 |
| cinerama | #topic CD Cloud status | 19:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:37 | |
| tchaypo | I discovered this week that we had the wrong mac addresses for most of the machines | 19:38 |
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| tchaypo | We now have ~70 that can (and have) be used to bring up an overcloud | 19:38 |
| derekh | rh1 - OK , hp1 | 19:39 |
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| derekh | hp1 - patch to start using it still waiting to be merged | 19:39 |
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| tchaypo | Do you have a link? | 19:39 |
| ccrouch | jdob: ha | 19:40 |
| cinerama | if there's a nice status dashboard somewhere i don't know about we should add it to the agenda wiki thing | 19:40 |
| derekh | tchaypo: this should be the link but gerrit is throwing a 404 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126513/ | 19:40 |
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| cinerama | derekh: wfm, weird | 19:40 |
| tchaypo | Thanks | 19:41 |
| derekh | tchaypo: I mean thats the link from my gerrit dashboard | 19:41 |
| derekh | weird | 19:41 |
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| lsmola2 | the link works for me | 19:42 |
| derekh | hmm, probably something todo with the project being renamed to system-config | 19:42 |
| bnemec | So basically we just need an infra person to approve that so we can be multi-region again? | 19:42 |
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| derekh | bnemec: yup, and hope its ok ;-) , its been a few weeks since I last looked at hp1 | 19:43 |
| tchaypo | Is jerryz around? | 19:43 |
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| bnemec | derekh: Only one way to find out :-) | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | I can poke clarkb because hes sitting across from me | 19:44 |
| bnemec | greghaynes: He already +2'd, so don't poke him. :-) | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | oh | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | damn | 19:44 |
| bnemec | I mean unless you want to. ;-) | 19:44 |
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| * derekh wont be here to help with problems if its merged now | 19:45 | |
| cinerama | #action infra person should approve adding hp1 back | 19:45 |
| bnemec | Anything else on CI? I almost hate to say it, but based on derekh's weekly updates it's been pretty quiet lately. | 19:45 |
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| derekh | ok, I get the 404 if I'm logged in, and can see the link if I'm logged out | 19:45 |
| bnemec | derekh: So should we hold off? | 19:46 |
| derekh | bnemec: not necessarily, ideally somebody should be available if there are problems | 19:46 |
| bnemec | derekh: Do we have someone else who will be able to look into issues? | 19:46 |
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| bnemec | Pretty sure I don't know enough to be of use. | 19:47 |
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| derekh | bnemec: any of the cd admins has access to the cloud, but may be lacking in familiarity , if there is problems logging into the hp1 bastian and joining the screen session is a good start | 19:48 |
| tchaypo | re hp1 - it's already down, right? | 19:49 |
| derekh | bnemec: any I wouldn't let that stop it merging, worst case senario CI might be failing for a few hours, | 19:49 |
| tchaypo | i don't think we can make it much worse, unless it starts accepting jobs and then spuriously failing them | 19:49 |
| bnemec | Hopefully it's not down, but it's not used by nodepool atm. | 19:50 |
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| derekh | bnemec: yup, thats the correct assessment | 19:50 |
| cinerama | mmkay | 19:50 |
| cinerama | shall we move on? we're getting close to the end of our slot for today i think | 19:51 |
| tchaypo | we're running low on time | 19:51 |
| bnemec | +1 | 19:51 |
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| derekh | so, to sum up, we should just get it merged regardless of who is around, somebody will pick up the pieces | 19:51 |
| cinerama | #topic Tuskar | 19:51 |
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| jdob | nohting spectacular to report | 19:51 |
| jdob | mostly just prepping for summit | 19:51 |
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| cinerama | if no one's got anything else here, shall we move on to specs? | 19:52 |
| greghaynes | gogogo | 19:52 |
| cinerama | #topic Specs | 19:52 |
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| greghaynes | *crickets* | 19:53 |
| greghaynes | I think thats a good sign | 19:53 |
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| bnemec | I think the big thing is summit topics. | 19:53 |
| cinerama | anyone want to talk about any of the open specs, or shall i open the floor to general discussion? | 19:53 |
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| cinerama | #topic open discussion | 19:54 |
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| cinerama | right, go nuts | 19:54 |
| ccrouch | bnemec: and the need to get *something* posted on a topic before summit | 19:54 |
| ccrouch | rather than just coming in with all the details at summit | 19:54 |
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| bnemec | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048652.html | 19:54 |
| bnemec | ^ML discussion of the topics SpamapS proposed for our scheduled sessions | 19:55 |
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| bnemec | Since I think we're supposed to be using a more collaborative process for scheduling this cycle it would be nice to have more input. :-) | 19:55 |
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| lifeless | INPUT | 19:56 |
| lifeless | sorry, had to | 19:56 |
| bnemec | :-) | 19:56 |
| cinerama | did we have an etherpad on that as well? | 19:56 |
| cinerama | hi lifeless | 19:56 |
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| bnemec | cinerama: Yes, it's linked from the first ML post. | 19:56 |
| cinerama | bnemec: OIC | 19:56 |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-tripleo-summit-topics | 19:56 |
| derekh | I didn't post anything up about CI this time round cause I thought it was much the same as the last time we discussed it | 19:57 |
| bnemec | So, I don't expect us to resolve the question in the next three minutes, but I think schedules are due later this week so ASAP. | 19:57 |
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| bnemec | I guess that's all I had to say. | 19:58 |
| lifeless | hi cinerama | 19:58 |
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| greghaynes | good meeting everyone! | 19:59 |
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| cinerama | we done here? | 19:59 |
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| * bnemec has nothing else | 20:00 | |
| tchaypo | i have coffee now | 20:00 |
| tchaypo | but that's not hugely relevant to the meeting | 20:00 |
| cinerama | cool, i'll close up then. thanks for participating folks | 20:00 |
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| cinerama | #endmeeting tripleo | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 21 20:00:52 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-21-19.10.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-21-19.10.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-21-19.10.log.html | 20:00 |
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