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| dims_ | #startmeeting oslo | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 11 16:01:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:01 |
| beekneemech | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims_ | hi all | 16:01 |
| dims_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| * markmc only barely here | 16:01 | |
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| i159 | Hi! | 16:01 |
| dims_ | markmv, :) | 16:01 |
| dims_ | markmc, :) | 16:01 |
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| dims_ | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
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| dims_ | Agenda is here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:03 |
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| dims_ | i can see all items marked as done or merged or released in this section | 16:04 |
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| beekneemech | +1 | 16:04 |
| dims_ | anything else we need to talk about? | 16:04 |
| dims_ | from prev meeting | 16:04 |
| i159 | I can't find it in agenda, but it is ready to review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93424/ | 16:04 |
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| dims_ | i159, thanks will look at it | 16:05 |
| dims_ | moving to next topic | 16:05 |
| dims_ | #topic Report from Sprints/ParisJuno2014 | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Report from Sprints/ParisJuno2014 (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:05 | |
| dims_ | how many of us made it there? | 16:05 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 16:05 |
| flaper87 | and markmc and haypo | 16:06 |
| dims_ | any updates for us flaper87 ? | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | The summary is that we went through lots of reviews, we discussed in depth asyncio, came out with a plan (markmc sent an email about this) | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | We also reviewed the amqp1.0 driver for olso.messaging | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | and talked to the team proposing such drivers about what's missing and how feasible it is to get it done | 16:07 |
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| flaper87 | summary about that last point is that there's still hope | 16:07 |
| flaper87 | ;) | 16:07 |
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| flaper87 | Also, we moved mask_password out of `log` into strutils | 16:07 |
| flaper87 | that's pretty much it | 16:08 |
| dims_ | thanks flaper87 | 16:08 |
| dims_ | any questions for flaper87 from anyone else? | 16:08 |
| dims_ | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:08 | |
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| dims_ | any liaisons here today? | 16:09 |
| * jogo o/ | 16:09 | |
| flaper87 | just a heads up here: Marconi has adopted oslo.i18n and there's a patch under review for glance | 16:09 |
| jogo | but I haven't been behind | 16:09 |
| jogo | have been* | 16:09 |
| dims_ | flaper87, nice | 16:09 |
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| flaper87 | It's a bit weird to have to create the `i18n.py` module on each project but... | 16:09 |
| flaper87 | I guess that's the best we can do to avoid injecting `_` to the builtins | 16:09 |
| flaper87 | and keepint things explicit | 16:10 |
| dims_ | flaper87, reminds me...what do we do about handling _() in other oslo-incubator code within a project? | 16:10 |
| * dhellmann appologizes for being late | 16:11 | |
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| flaper87 | dims_: I've kept gettextutils around for now | 16:11 |
| flaper87 | until oslo-inc is fully migrated to oslo.i18n | 16:11 |
| flaper87 | and projects are synced | 16:11 |
| dims_ | right | 16:11 |
| dims_ | so we leave that as-is | 16:12 |
| flaper87 | I don't think we should modify them manually in each project | 16:12 |
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| flaper87 | that's what I've done and it makes more sense to me | 16:12 |
| dims_ | any other concerns from liaisons? | 16:12 |
| dims_ | flaper87, ack. agree | 16:12 |
| flaper87 | oslo syncs are magical enough already | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | dims_: I talked that through with bknudson for keystone, and he came up with a way to monkey patch gettextutils | 16:12 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: for the sake of magic? (joke) | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: agreed, I thought we would move the modules in the incubator to i18n as they graduate | 16:13 |
| flaper87 | :D | 16:13 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: sounds good. We should probably migrate to i18n the ones that won't graduate soon | 16:13 |
| * dims_ steps back to let dhellmann take over :) | 16:13 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/104400 | 16:14 |
| flaper87 | but I given the state of syncs in projects, I don't thik we should worry much about it | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | that's the keystone changes for i18n | 16:14 |
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| flaper87 | s/I given/given/ | 16:14 |
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| dhellmann | dims_, thanks for picking up my slack :-) | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: yeah, not a high priority | 16:15 |
| dims_ | dhellmann, so the magic is the last few lines in i18n.py? | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | dims_: yes | 16:15 |
| dims_ | lgtm | 16:15 |
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| dhellmann | the other suggestion was to create a local enable_lazy() function that calls both functions in the 2 versions of gettextutils until that module is no longer needed in the projects, but the monkeypatching works, too | 16:16 |
| dims_ | dhellmann, how exactly do they test if stuff is working :) (dumb question) | 16:16 |
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| dhellmann | dims_: that's not a dumb question, it's actually a thing that's blocking the TC from adopting a policy that projects must support translation | 16:17 |
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| dims_ | ah ok | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | dims_: Ajeager is working on adding a test job for that | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | I think the plan is to run the regular d-g tests with translation enabled | 16:17 |
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| dhellmann | were there any red-flags? | 16:18 |
| dims_ | dhellmann, no red flags | 16:18 |
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| dhellmann | ok, dims_, since you're the chair I don't think I can change the topic | 16:18 |
| dims_ | #topic Exception filtering proposal | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Exception filtering proposal (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:19 | |
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| zzzeek | hi | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | im here! | 16:19 |
| dims_ | let's tag team dhellmann | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | OK | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | dims_: great, thanks! | 16:19 |
| flaper87 | (dims_ you can chair dhellmann by doing #chair dhellmann ) | 16:19 |
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| dims_ | #chair dhellmann | 16:19 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dhellmann dims_ | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | so there’s a lot of stuff coming in that builds on this proposal, e.g. things that want to filter on exceptoins | 16:19 |
| dims_ | w00t thanks flaper87 | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: nice, thanks! | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | so i want to make sure ppl are cool with this, and i have more things for it coming later, and if so we can get it in | 16:20 |
| * rpodolyaka looked at the spec but haven't left comments yet | 16:21 | |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: the proposal looked good to me, and I agreed with bnemec's comments on tweaks, but there were no major issues | 16:21 |
| zzzeek | my patches are in general going to be big like this since I have bigger things to do | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | I'll wait for rpodolyaka and viktors to leave their +1, and give everyone else a chance to review it, too, before approving. how about by tuesday? | 16:21 |
| zzzeek | its fine by me! ive jhust been holding up other patches from other folks until this goes in | 16:22 |
| beekneemech | Yeah, I was torn on even -1'ing that. | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: I haven't had a chance to look at the code change yet, but will after the spec is approved | 16:22 |
| zzzeek | ok so the big thing here is that, it back-ports some new SQLA functionality | 16:22 |
| rpodolyaka | dhellmann: sure! | 16:22 |
| zzzeek | e.g. the event is new in sqla 0.9.7, but here ive re-implemnted it for 0.96 backwards | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | beekneemech: the point about the location of the exceptions is good, since we did have an oslo.exceptions module planned at one point and we want the spec to be accurate in that regard | 16:22 |
| zzzeek | and theres a bit more i think i should add to it, supporting being able to mark an exception as a “disconnect”, we were just talking about that for a percona issue | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka: which versions of sql are we supporting in production now? | 16:23 |
| beekneemech | dhellmann: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I had to go check if we actually had that module. :-) | 16:23 |
| rpodolyaka | dhellmann: 0.8.4+ | 16:23 |
| zzzeek | teh 0.9.7 feature supports that, will add it here, but it means a tiny bit more of SQLA internals will be restated in oslo.db.sqlalchemy.compat | 16:23 |
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| zzzeek | oslo.db.sqlalchemy.compat is where I’ll be putting all these “reimplement things that are in newer SQLA versions” | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | beekneemech: is it there, or was it something we just discussed? | 16:23 |
| rpodolyaka | +1 on compat | 16:24 |
| beekneemech | dhellmann: No, I didn't find anything. | 16:24 |
| zzzeek | rpodolyaka: OK great | 16:24 |
| zzzeek | what i want to try to do there, evertyhing in compat only targets existing releases, never anything future | 16:24 |
| zzzeek | so we don’t have to be too scared of private API access in there | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | ok, I like the general approach of that compat module, too, and I'll leave it up to you all to ensure that these features work on all of the versions of sqla we advertise that we support | 16:24 |
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| zzzeek | dhellmann: ok greart | 16:25 |
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| dhellmann | zzzeek: that's a great point on private api access, we should write that down somewhere so we can refer people to it during reviews -- I'm quite likely to forget and -1 something myself :-) | 16:25 |
| dims_ | zzzeek, some of us use DB2 at the moment, if you hadn't already heard :) | 16:25 |
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| zzzeek | dims_: yeah i just put up https://review.openstack.org/106406 in response to https://review.openstack.org/92182 | 16:25 |
| dims_ | thanks zzzeek | 16:26 |
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| dhellmann | I think we all agree on the general plan for this, then, is there anything else to say? | 16:26 |
| zzzeek | dims_: i worked on the DB2 driver with the IBM folks, I got it up to speed for SQLA 0.8 and all | 16:26 |
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| dims_ | very cool | 16:26 |
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| dhellmann | ok, we can come back to details on this during open discussion if needed. | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | #topic Adoption status | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-oslo-adoption-status | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adoption status (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:27 | |
| dhellmann | flaper87: did you say the marconi work on oslo.i18n was done, or in progress? | 16:27 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: marconi merged, glance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105453/ | 16:28 |
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| dhellmann | #info marconi has adopted oslo.i18n | 16:28 |
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| dhellmann | #info glance use of oslo.i18n up for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105453/ | 16:28 |
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| dhellmann | I know we hit some issues with getting alpha releases of other libs into the global requirements | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | #info the fix to allow alpha releases to be added to the requirements list is up for review | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106125/ | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | and since I wrote up my notes, it has merged :-) | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | #info that fix is actually merged | 16:29 |
| beekneemech | \o/ | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann poke the reviews for adding alpha versions of oslo libs to global requirements | 16:30 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Approved specs | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | we have 3 approved specs | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.utils - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98431/ | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | #info rootwrap daemon mode - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94613/ | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | #info taskflow conditional execution - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98946/ | 16:30 |
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| rpodolyaka | \o/ | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | we should probably be slowing down on writing new specs, and concentrate on finishing the work on the ones we've already started :-) | 16:31 |
| dims_ | ack :) | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #topic Nearly approved specs | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | I will approve these specs later today or Monday unless anyone objects | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #info greenio executor for oslo.messaging - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104792/ | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #info redis backend for taskflow - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105298/ | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #info AMQP 1.0 driver for oslo.messaging - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96729/ | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nearly approved specs (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:31 | |
| dhellmann | #info scoping for atoms and flows - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100048/ | 16:31 |
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| dhellmann | all of those lgtm and had someone from the library in question vote in a positive way | 16:32 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Specs needing review | 16:32 |
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| dhellmann | in addition to zzzeek's spec from earlier, I’d like some feedback from the oslo.messaging team about this one | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | #info cross-service profiling changes in oslo.messaging - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103825/ | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | the change itself isn't large, but I want to make sure we understand the implications | 16:33 |
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| dhellmann | does anyone have any other specs they were counting on having approved this cycle? we have some that have lingering -1 comments that aren't addressed, so I assume those are low priority items | 16:34 |
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| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105796/ | 16:35 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: spec for olso.messaging | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | Alexei_987: did I see a code change to go with that one somewhere? | 16:35 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104983/ | 16:36 |
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| dhellmann | Alexei_987: ok | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | any others? | 16:36 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: there are also some diagramms in the spec - old http://goo.gl/osO69Q , new - http://goo.gl/h3G5XS | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | Alexei_987: ok, you're going to need to render those in ascii or something so we can review them without relying on external links | 16:37 |
| Alexei_987 | ascii sucks | 16:37 |
| Alexei_987 | it have plantuml test in the spec | 16:37 |
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| Alexei_987 | it has* | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | Alexei_987: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-specs/tree/specs/template.rst#n18 | 16:38 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: yes but ascii cannot help here | 16:38 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: I want to add uml diagramms | 16:38 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: IMHO we should add support for plantuml | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | Alexei_987: we can take this offline, but I'm not inclined to be terribly flexible on this point | 16:38 |
| Alexei_987 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105796/2/specs/juno/oslo-messaging-server-main-loop/main_loop_current.uml | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | did anyone else have any other specs we should make a priority? | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | ok, moving on then | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | #topic oslo.utils graduation status | 16:40 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-utils | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | the repository for the new library has been set up, good work dims_! | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.utils | 16:40 |
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| dhellmann | dims_: how much work is left before you can tag 0.1.0? | 16:41 |
| Alexei_987 | dhellmann: Oh plantuml can generate ascii diagramms... I will update the spec with those | 16:41 |
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| dhellmann | Alexei_987: that works | 16:41 |
| dims_ | dhellmann, i'll check and let you know later | 16:41 |
| dims_ | today | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | dims_: ok, sounds good | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | #topic oslo.serialization graduation status | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-serialization | 16:42 |
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| dhellmann | beekneemech: how is that looking? | 16:42 |
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| beekneemech | dhellmann: Not started yet, but one of the things that have been eating all of my time lately is done so I'm hoping I can get started on my specs finally. | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | good news! | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | #topic oslo.concurrency graduation status | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-concurrency | 16:43 |
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| dhellmann | I assume the same here? | 16:43 |
| beekneemech | Ditto :-) | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:43 |
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| dhellmann | we're coming up on j2 next week, so we should go ahead and retarget bps we know we aren't going to finish by then | 16:44 |
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| dhellmann | it's better to keep the bp list accurate than to rush the work through | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #topic Release review | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | stand by for paste-dump... | 16:45 |
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| dhellmann | #info oslo.i18n 0.1.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-i18n-1.0.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.vmware 0.4.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039230.html | 16:45 |
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| dhellmann | #info oslosphinx 2.2.0.0a2 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslosphinx-2.2.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #info pbr 0.9.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039481.html | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.config 1.4.0.0a2 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040013.html | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a3 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039669.html | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.db 0.3.0 | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039738.html | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | That’s a nice *long* list. Good work everyone! :-) | 16:45 |
| beekneemech | +1 | 16:45 |
| zzzeek | d:) | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | I'm really really happy with the progress we've made already. I know we have hit a few roadblocks, but the work you're all doing is solid. | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | Thank you all! | 16:46 |
| dims_ | +1 ") | 16:47 |
| flaper87 | dang, that's exiting | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | do we anticipate any other releases in the next week? | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka, viktors: am I up to date on oslo.db there, or did I miss a 0.4.0? | 16:47 |
| viktors | dhellmann: yes, it up to date | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | viktors: ok, good | 16:48 |
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| dhellmann | #topic review priorities for this week | 16:48 |
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| dhellmann | #info db migration test issues (devananda) | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | this one has been on our agenda for a couple of weeks, so it would be good to close it out soon | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93424/ | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | related to two bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1327397 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1328997 | 16:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1327397 in oslo "No notice given when db migrations are not run due to missing engine" [High,In progress] | 16:48 |
| devananda | o/ | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | it would be great if we could roll that into an oslo.db release next week, so let's jump on reviewing it asap | 16:49 |
| * rpodolyaka adds it to the review queue | 16:49 | |
| devananda | speaking of oslo.db, I was pinged on the eventlet / transaction locking issue in oslo.db a few days ago | 16:49 |
| devananda | there's a review up for a test for that bug, which zzzeek and I both -1'd because it's not really testing it | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | devananda: is that the topic from the ML about adding a test? | 16:50 |
| devananda | yep. lemmme get the link | 16:50 |
| zzzeek | devananda: i cant keep track of all the things people are doing withj that | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | ok, if the test is bad we don't want it but if the test is good we do want it :-) | 16:50 |
| zzzeek | devananda: some ppl are testing mysql-connector | 16:50 |
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| zzzeek | devananda: some ppl dealing with that test | 16:50 |
| devananda | zzzeek: cool. i was just raising awareness of it :) | 16:50 |
| zzzeek | i think changing the mysql driver is a really big change and id expect that the whole world of openstack projects are going to complain if they realized we are doing that | 16:51 |
| devananda | taht problem loks like it will affect multiple projects | 16:51 |
| devananda | well | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: it's probably too late in the cycle to change the database connection library we will use for this release, but it's good to have the testing done so we can consider the change for early in K | 16:51 |
| devananda | except that we've been wanting to get away from this bug for years | 16:51 |
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| devananda | *the bugs in eventelt+mysqld | 16:51 |
| devananda | mysqldb | 16:51 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: good point, so, I want to try to focus on https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1339206, which will allow us to write tests that can easily be run on many backends | 16:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1339206 in oslo "oslo.db test suite is too rigidly hardcoded to a small number of potential database backends" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | devananda: yep, and I think we have an easy way to achieve that now as teams migrate to oslo.db, since we can update the requirements in one place | 16:52 |
| devananda | dhellmann: yep | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | can someone volunteer to coordinate the work on this issue, so we can keep track of all of it? | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | that's "coordinate" not "do" the work :-) | 16:52 |
| devananda | zzzeek: just to check, do you mean different db engines (myusql, pgsql, db2, ...), or different connectors? | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | we're going to want some detailed notes about what testing was done before we change libs, and in the mean time we have alternatives to work on | 16:53 |
| zzzeek | devananda: well either | 16:54 |
| zzzeek | devananda: the SQLA tests, I can run them like py.test —dburi mysql+mysqldb://… —dburi mysql+oursql://… —dburi mysql+mysqlconnector://.. and tests marked as “backend” will run for all three | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: expanding the testing options sounds like a good idea, too | 16:55 |
| devananda | zzzeek: ++ | 16:55 |
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| zzzeek | dhellmann: so i might have to use some metaclass magic to make it happen in oslo.db’s tests | 16:55 |
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| dhellmann | zzzeek: maybe we can use testtools scenarios and environment variables to achieve the same thing | 16:56 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: OK maybe, ill look into that... | 16:56 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: basically the discovery has to come up wiht more tests than are actually listed out | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek: there should be some examples of using scenarios in the ceilometer test suite | 16:56 |
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| dhellmann | yep, scenarios do that | 16:56 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: e.g. a single piece of test code is multplied during discovery | 16:56 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: ok | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.utils changes needed to allow a release | 16:57 |
| dhellmann | in addition to those review items we've already discussed, let's help dims with any reviews he needs to finish a first release of oslo.utils | 16:57 |
| * flaper87 is working on the strutils changes | 16:58 | |
| dhellmann | are there any other review items up now that we should be prioritizing? | 16:58 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: excellent, ping us as needed for reviews | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | almost ready, I'm bikeshedding with myself on module names | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | the rest is done | 16:58 |
| dhellmann | heh | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | :P | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | btw, it's really weird to have `utils` in the module name | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | I just noticed that | 16:58 |
| flaper87 | oslo.utils.importutils | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | yeah, but 'str" is a bad module name | 16:59 |
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| flaper87 | oh yeah, I wanted to use strings (joke) | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | :P | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | it'll be used as "from oslo.utils import importutils" and then later in the module "importuils.foo()" | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | mmh, right | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | it probably just look bad in the code base | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | so it looks weird, except in use :-) | 16:59 |
| flaper87 | like I said, I'm bikeshedding | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | ok | 17:00 |
| beekneemech | flaper87: I had the same comment on the spec. :-) | 17:00 |
| dhellmann | I think that's it, and we're out of time | 17:00 |
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| dhellmann | thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
| flaper87 | beekneemech: :P ahhh, we love bikeshedding | 17:00 |
| flaper87 | cheers | 17:00 |
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| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 11 17:01:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-07-11-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-07-11-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-07-11-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
| rpodolyaka | thanks everyone! have a great week end! | 17:01 |
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