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samstav#startmeeting satori15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul  7 15:01:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samstav. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'satori'15:01
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samstavHi, who's here for satori?15:02
walker_o/15:02
n1ck-ome, too :)15:03
gondoio/15:03
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samstavCool. Thanks for coming walker_ n1ck-o gondoi15:04
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samstavWe'll start with action items on record.15:04
samstav#topic action items15:04
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samstavI think zns will be back for next Monday's meeting, and we'll continue to push his action item forward.15:06
samstav#action zns start ML discussion & blueprint for built-in python data plane discovery15:06
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samstavn1ck-o had an item related to submission 9838315:08
samstav#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98383/15:08
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n1ck-oyes, I had a look at this last week15:08
n1ck-obut have not been able to make much progress15:09
samstavCool. I think you pushed some updates on June 30th which got us very close to being done there15:10
n1ck-ounfortunately the unit tests are failing15:10
n1ck-ofor some reason I can't tell15:10
n1ck-omight need some help with that15:10
samstavRight, I see that. I'll assign myself to help track that down15:11
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n1ck-oawesome, thanks15:11
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samstav#action samstav Determine cause of failing unitttests happening on submission 98383, AFAWK only on Gerrit's jenkins15:12
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samstav#link http://logs.openstack.org/83/98383/4/check/gate-satori-python27/1057ea1/console.html.gz15:14
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samstavtraceback ends with ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack from the pythonwhois module15:14
samstavn1ck-o the action item was specifically for addressing the comments on the windows-support submission. Would you say that is done?15:15
n1ck-osamstav: no, the stuff I pushed last week only addressed the lack of meaningful error messages, I'll look at the comments specifically this week15:16
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samstavOk, cool. Thanks n1ck-o. I'm going to go ahead and push that item forward as well.15:18
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samstav#action n1ck-o Address comments on submission 9838315:19
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samstavn1ck-o you mentioned in another conversation that you were already looking at importing the psexec module instead of using a subprocess call to it. I had an action item assigned to myself to look into this as well. Will we try to accomplish this now, and have it included in the current submission, or will this come afterward?15:22
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n1ck-ohmmm, tough question15:24
samstavSince we have seen moderate success with the current implementation, my vote would be that it come after.15:25
n1ck-oyeah, I think that makes sense15:25
samstavok15:25
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samstav#action samstav Create a blueprint including details and motivation behind removing the subprocess calls in the windows support implementation15:28
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samstavwalker_ mentioned that there were some features running in fork which need a game plan in satori15:37
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samstav( referencing the Agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Satori#Previous_meetings )15:37
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walker_Yes, specifically changing some code around using "su -" in instances where 'sudo' is not available15:37
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samstavCool, thanks. walker_ I'll go ahead and action you for a blueprint on that.15:38
walker_ty15:38
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samstav#action walker_ Create a blueprint for choosing the escalation prefix ("sudo" OR "su -" OR ?) when running commands in ssh.py15:40
samstavAre there any other features in fork we need to address? I believe it was just the escalation command and the windows support.15:41
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walker_I think that's all for now15:41
samstavUnless there's a need for general discussion, I think that covers everything. Any objections to closing up?15:42
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n1ck-onothing from me at this point15:43
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samstavCool. Thanks walker_, gondoi, n1ck-o, for participating. Until next week..15:44
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samstav#endmeeting15:44
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davidlenwell#startmeeting refstack17:26
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul  7 17:26:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:26
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:26
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'17:26
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davidlenwellroll call?17:27
zehicleo/17:27
fcarpentero/17:27
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davidlenwelltopics... marantis intros, meeting times again, api/swagger, wednesday f2f, open discussion17:29
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zehicleok17:30
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zehicleshould have a DefCore update too17:30
davidlenwellokay .. sounds good17:30
davidlenwellzehicle: do you want to introduce your contractors?17:30
Serg_SlipushenkoHi alL, from Mirantis team!17:31
fcarpenterhello!17:31
davidlenwellHello Serg_Slipushenko17:31
juliashapovalov1hello!17:31
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zehiclethey should introduce themselves.17:32
zehicleI can give the background about Dell bringing them into the project17:32
davidlenwellI think they just did17:32
zehicle+117:32
zehicleBasically, Dell is helping fund work on Refstack17:33
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zehiclewe're especially interested in helping drive the data collection (TCUP) to upload and display chain17:33
davidlenwellawesome.. We'll be able to keep them busy in that regard for sure.17:33
juliashapovalov1sounds good17:34
juliashapovalov1I'm Julia, working as a QA in Mirantis, have same expiriance in Tempest17:34
juliashapovalov1*some17:34
davidlenwellsince we are on limited time.. lets move on to the main topic of the timing of this meeting.17:34
davidlenwell#topic meeting time17:34
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davidlenwellI can live with the meeting at this time if it is the only time our friends at marantis can join us.17:36
davidlenwellbut I'll warn you in advance that I hate mondays.. and I hate mornings..  but I will do my best to bring my all to each meeting.17:36
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zehicleI think 10am PT is the only workable time slot for our time zones17:37
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juliashapovalov1appreciate it17:37
zehiclehappy to (re)consider other days17:37
davidlenwellNo.. Im sick of moving this around17:37
zehicle+117:37
Serg_SlipushenkoWe can move meeting on two hours later17:37
juliashapovalov1+17:38
davidlenwellwe'll stick to this time.. like I said we've moved out meeting too much and I don't want to loose any further attendance17:38
zehicleworks for me17:38
zehicleok17:38
davidlenwellI'll cope17:38
davidlenwell;)17:38
davidlenwell#topic  api/swagger17:39
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davidlenwellSo we had decided early on to use swagger with our api.. doing so proved to be a little more work than I anticipated with flask as the api engine.. however I've found a workable solution and I am close to having it working.17:40
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davidlenwellthe default way to use swagger with flask requires ussage of the flask-restless extension17:41
davidlenwellwhich we aren't going to use.17:41
davidlenwellit makes too many api design assuptions.17:41
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davidlenwellinstead I am in the process of turning this into a package because it better suits our needs. https://github.com/dlenwell/flask-sillywalk17:42
davidlenwellplus I think the name is fun..17:42
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davidlenwellany thoughts? objections? input?17:43
zehicleI'm ok with it - don't want it to take away from getting Tempest working17:44
davidlenwellso far swagger has put me three working days off target with landing the api17:44
davidlenwellbut I think having swagger docs and an auto genereated python client are worth the spike17:45
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davidlenwell#topic wednesday f2f17:45
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davidlenwellwednesday catherine and possibly others are going to make their way up to the piston offices so that we can work out face to face how to clean up the tester code and consolidate.17:46
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zehicleI think Alex is planning to be there too17:46
davidlenwellawesome!!17:47
davidlenwellokay17:47
davidlenwell#topic Defcore update17:47
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davidlenwellgo ahead with zehicle when you are ready17:48
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zehicleok17:48
zehicleWe're looking at at DefCore meeting this Wed17:49
zehiclethe last TC meeting was a bit of a surprise for me - TC decided to not name designated sections17:49
zehiclewants the board to take lead on making that decision17:49
zehicleI don't think it directly impacts refstack17:49
davidlenwellI think you are correct17:50
zehiclebut DefCore will have to decide how to proceed.  It likely impacts timelines17:50
davidlenwellwhat time wednesday ?17:50
zehicleTC agreed with the basics of capabliities & tests17:50
zehicleTBD17:50
davidlenwellI'd like to attend meetings17:50
zehiclelooks like 2 PT17:50
davidlenwellbut wednesday we have ftf17:50
zehiclenot related17:50
davidlenwellif it effects refstack timelines I feel like it might be related17:51
zehicleif anything, will push back17:51
zehiclebut that meeting will be higher level.  timelines will be impacts later17:51
zehicledont distrupt dev collaboration for a defcore meeting17:52
davidlenwellwell if it comes up durring the meeting .. ping me and I'll jump on the call17:52
zehiclekk17:52
zehicleit's not on the agenda17:52
davidlenwellokay17:52
davidlenwell#topic opendiscussion17:52
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zehiclespec for json format changes > I'd like to just do a pull against the current files instead17:53
zehicleand not try to include the flow chart at this point17:54
davidlenwellokay17:54
davidlenwellas long as the person who ends up having to program the thing that crunches data for score cards understands what to do with it17:54
zehiclegood point17:55
zehiclethinking17:55
zehicleI can see the point of wanting a doc for the file.  I'll add a readme to the directory.17:56
davidlenwellsounds good17:56
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Serg_SlipushenkoCan I ask a couple questions? I want to clarify our(Mirantis team) goals...18:00
davidlenwellcan you pop over toi #refstack and we can talk about it18:00
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davidlenwellalso want to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104908/18:00
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davidlenwell#endmeeting18:01
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Serg_SlipushenkoI really does not how to do that)18:01
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Serg_Slipushenkosorry mis understanding18:02
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