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| zns | #startmeeting satori | 15:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 21 15:10:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: satori)" | 15:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'satori' | 15:10 |
| gondoi | o/ | 15:10 |
| zns | Hi there - apologies for being later. | 15:10 |
| zns | Hi gondoi - who else is here? | 15:10 |
| walker_ | o/ | 15:10 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | o/ | 15:12 |
| zns | Cool. | 15:12 |
| samstav | o/ | 15:12 |
| zns | #topic Action Items | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items (Meeting topic: satori)" | 15:12 | |
| hhoover | o/ | 15:12 |
| zns | #action zns start ML discussion & blueprint for built-in python data plane discovery | 15:12 |
| zns | Not done - moving back again | 15:12 |
| zns | caleb_ Developer docs for doing discovery using Python rather than the command line | 15:12 |
| zns | caleb_ is not here. | 15:13 |
| zns | update documentation to point to #openstack-satori channel - done. I did not find anywhere else to change. Thanks to gondoi who handled it. | 15:13 |
| zns | #topic Schema Blueprint | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Schema Blueprint (Meeting topic: satori)" | 15:13 | |
| zns | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/satori/+spec/satori-discovery-schema | 15:13 |
| zns | I updated the blueprint based on our meeting two weeks ago (last week was all about heartbleed). Any feedback on the updates? | 15:14 |
| walker_ | Looks good to me | 15:14 |
| jasonpgignac1 | Does the schema assume we will do discoveries based solely on individual netlocs, then? | 15:16 |
| zns | I don't believe so. Can you explain what about the schema leads you to make that assumption? | 15:17 |
| jasonpgignac1 | I think its the find key, which I, in general find a bit confusing. | 15:17 |
| jasonpgignac1 | It seems to me that the data you have there is, essentially, information about a DNS domain resource | 15:17 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | And that 'found' is vague enough that I would not know what to expect to find in it. Resources are 'found' after all. Pretty much all the data in the discovery is. That being, sort of the definition of discovery. | 15:18 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | Its difficult to imagine a good alternative for the name, though, since I don't understand what would really belong there. It feels sorta like the junk drawer. | 15:19 |
| zns | We had a number of random facts coming back (like ip-address, and such) that were not resources. I grouped those under the "found" key. | 15:20 |
| jasonpgignac1 | I suppose my argument woudl be: those facts arent' random. | 15:21 |
| jasonpgignac1 | They are directly connected to a DNS record, the ones you have listed there. | 15:21 |
| zns | ... with the intent to also make those keys map back to items requested at the beginning of a discovery. That way requested items either end up in errors or found. | 15:21 |
| jasonpgignac1 | Or it seems so to me? | 15:21 |
| jasonpgignac1 | But - wouldn't most items requested to be discovered be specific to certain resources? | 15:22 |
| jasonpgignac1 | Unless we're talking about this being a place for information that summarizes data about multiple resources, like the Time Zone work samstav was working on. | 15:23 |
| zns | Yes, sorry, my choice of word was not accurate. They're not random, but not predictable as they depend on how the discovery goes. | 15:23 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | I'm just not clear on why the answers woudl go here, and not under the resources they are answering about. | 15:24 |
| zns | No necessarily. We could end up discovering DNS data and certificate information and not be able to identify any resources since resources are mostly control plane items. | 15:24 |
| jasonpgignac1 | I would argue that DNS data and certificate information IS a resource. Our control plane in that case is highly limited (essentially, its whois). But nonetheless, that's a control plane | 15:24 |
| jasonpgignac1 | A certificate is a resource. We can discover info about it using the WHOIS control plane. | 15:25 |
| jasonpgignac1 | A DNS record is a resource. We can always discover info using the WHOIS control plane. Sometimes we can discover more using some alternate control plane. | 15:26 |
| jasonpgignac1 | Does that make sense? | 15:26 |
| jasonpgignac1 | But, feel free to shut me down, I don't want to eat the whole meeting over this. | 15:26 |
| zns | How about this as an example: If the given target for a discovery is a URL (http:www.example.com) and we output the FQDN (www.example.com). It feels unnecessary to create a Resource for that? | 15:28 |
| jasonpgignac1 | A resource is no more expensive than a 'found' key. | 15:28 |
| jasonpgignac1 | And its at least clearer. | 15:29 |
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| zns | I disagree with "A resource is no more expensive than a 'found' key." It's one string. It's always a string. It's totally overcomplicating it to create a resource key for that. | 15:30 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | But - | 15:30 |
| jasonpgignac1 | In general, that FQDN is not te only thing someone is discovering. That would be the first step, then they woudl resolve the fqdn to an ip, and look up, say, the length of the DNS lease maybe, etc, etc, etc. | 15:31 |
| jasonpgignac1 | All that data is related, around a DNS resource | 15:31 |
| walker_ | I don't think I have a strong opinion regarding this implementation. Found does not seem ridiculous. | 15:32 |
| jasonpgignac1 | *shrugs* Like I said, I don't want to eat the whole meeting over it. It just does not feel intuitive to me what precisely belongs in found. | 15:32 |
| walker_ | I can see as more data is discovered that there may be a bigger difference between Found and Resources | 15:32 |
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| walker_ | which is not as clear in the example | 15:32 |
| jasonpgignac1 | walker: I agree, but I feel like right now the definition is just 'Stuff that doesn't belong in resources'. Defining a data domain in the negative is just a synonym for 'junk drawer' in my mind. | 15:33 |
| walker_ | jasonpgignac1: perhaps a good action item then is to explore how exactly those should be defined | 15:34 |
| zns | Can you explain what you mean by "Defining a data domain in the negative"? | 15:34 |
| jasonpgignac1 | zns: I mean this: the pithiest description of what goes in 'found' right now, to my understanding is 'Things we discovered that aren't resources'. So we haven't defined what these thigns are, just whtat they aren't. Which means that it is too easy for us to just throw new pieces of data into here, instead of really thinking about where they belong. | 15:35 |
| jasonpgignac1 | The data we have listed, dns stuff, just feels like an example of that to me. | 15:35 |
| jasonpgignac1 | Developers, especially in a hurry, follow the path of least resistance for outputting data. If you have a path that's defined as 'stuff that's data' and nothing else, really, then that will be the path of least resistance. | 15:36 |
| jasonpgignac1 | And it will end up being a junkpile. | 15:36 |
| jasonpgignac1 | IMHO | 15:37 |
| zns | The keys in found toe back to the conversation we had about errors being tied back to requested items in the discovery. You were the one that asked for that, jasonpgignac1. So we added keys to errors, so you can link errors back to items you asked for and you can see which, of the items you asked for, you got and which failed and why. The found key is the complement to that request, but for things that succeeded. I recognize that that list | 15:37 |
| zns | right now is static (we assume you asked for fqdn, ip-address, etc... when you request a discovery) and that the list will be dynamic at some point. So the found key is not a junk pile, it's a list based on what you will be asking satori to do. | 15:37 |
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| zns | I.e. think of it as when you run "satori find A,B,C,D" it will respond with the JSON equivalent of I foun: A, B, but C, and D errored out with these errors. | 15:39 |
| jasonpgignac1 | I agree with the value of keying errors to data. I imagine we need to be able to do that with data about resource data too. And after all, one thing I'll ask satori to do is discover resource data, specific pieces of resource data. Essentially, 'answers to questions you asked Satori to answer' is a definitino of the entire JSON data structure. Not just the 'found' key. | 15:39 |
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| jasonpgignac1 | Sorry, not trying to be difficult. | 15:40 |
| walker_ | way to go jasonpgignac1, you killed zns | 15:43 |
| zns | Part of the challenge is that we explicitly said we were not going to solve too far down the line. So we don't have a clear mechanism for specifying what we are requesting satori to discover. So you're forcing us to either step back and simplify by dropping the keys in errors and found, or solving for the more comprehensive use case. I think we can do the latter, but we'll need to spend a lot more time designing and we won't be able to | 15:44 |
| zns | iterate our way there. I'm opting for solving just for what is listed at the top of the spec and not over-designing. | 15:44 |
| jasonpgignac1 | That's fine. I think we can use the spec here. I just think it would be better to keep the answers inside of a data structure that defines the domain they are answering about, like resources, as long as posisble. But YMMV. | 15:45 |
| walker_ | I propose that this be moved to the blueprint and that if there are disagreements with implementation, they be countered with alternatives | 15:45 |
| jasonpgignac1 | I can agree with that | 15:45 |
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| walker_ | otherwise, I don't think this is helpful | 15:46 |
| zns | And I recognize that is incomplete. But it has it's pragmatic benefits. Namely, we know we want those features today and we can use them. And we can use them as spec'er. As for the concerns you raise, they're not blockers right now. | 15:46 |
| zns | spec'ed (speced? spec'd...) ... | 15:46 |
| jasonpgignac1 | *shrug* That's fine, if I'm the only one worrying about, its probably just me. | 15:46 |
| zns | specified in the spec!!!! | 15:46 |
| walker_ | easy for you to say | 15:47 |
| jasonpgignac1 | *crawls quietly back into his gadfly cage* | 15:47 |
| zns | Is jasonpgignac1 the only one fighting for a more comprehensive use case? | 15:48 |
| zns | Any other comments, concerns about the spec? | 15:48 |
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| zns | jasonpgignac1- thank you for pushing on this. Your comments from the previous meeting resulted in a better spec, IMO. I like where it stands now, and I don't think it precludes putting things in resources as you request. Maybe you can just ignore the found key and get your data from resources... | 15:50 |
| zns | Cool. | 15:50 |
| zns | Any other topics to discuss? | 15:50 |
| zns | Going once... | 15:51 |
| zns | Going twice... | 15:51 |
| walker_ | SOLD | 15:52 |
| zns | Gone... thank you all! See you next week. Pls get any new blueprints/specs in by Thursday to discuss next Monday. | 15:52 |
| zns | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| sarob | #startmeting training-manuals | 17:01 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-manuals | 17:02 |
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| sarob | Roll call | 17:02 |
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| sarob | Looks like training is postponed this time | 17:10 |
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| reaperhulk | let's do this thing redrobot :D | 20:01 |
| atiwari | o/ | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | welcome everyone to the Barbican weekly meeting | 20:02 |
| redrobot | As usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | Looks like we don't have much on the agenda for today | 20:03 |
| redrobot | can I get a show of hands for the Barbican meeting? | 20:03 |
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| atiwari | I have 2 topic to discuss | 20:03 |
| ryanpetrello | o/ | 20:03 |
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| hgedikli | o/ | 20:04 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:04 |
| reaperhulk | o/ | 20:04 |
| alee | o/ | 20:04 |
| reaperhulk | atiwari: not quite on topic but I just finished reviewing 82189. I've put some comments and removed my -2 | 20:04 |
| redrobot | awesome, lots of peeps here | 20:04 |
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| alee | I'd like to discuss my cr as well. | 20:05 |
| atiwari | reaperhulk great | 20:05 |
| redrobot | so in case y'all missed it, we released Icehouse last week | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/icehouse/icehouse/ | 20:05 |
| redrobot | so we're working towards Juno on trunk now | 20:06 |
| redrobot | atwiari, what are the topics you want to discuss? | 20:06 |
| atiwari | I need some agreement on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88463/ | 20:07 |
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| atiwari | is the API proposal for order add more type | 20:07 |
| lisaclark | o/ | 20:07 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 20:08 |
| SheenaG1 | o/ | 20:08 |
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| atiwari | redrobot, can we hash out summit topics ? | 20:08 |
| atiwari | those are my two agendas | 20:09 |
| redrobot | #topic Order resource changes to support more types | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | atiwari, k, let's start with the order changes | 20:09 |
| atiwari | sure | 20:09 |
| redrobot | has anyone had a chance to review the CR? | 20:09 |
| redrobot | I have not. :( | 20:10 |
| atiwari | fyi, this API change proposal is based on #link https://gist.github.com/jfwood/9080109 | 20:10 |
| rellerreller | I looked at it | 20:11 |
| atiwari | I discussed with woodster | 20:11 |
| rellerreller | I left a comment about the asymmetric keys and how you would identify both private and public key | 20:11 |
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| atiwari | rellerreller I replied to your comment | 20:12 |
| atiwari | we are going to provide ref to container | 20:12 |
| atiwari | in container ther will be multiple refs to secrets | 20:12 |
| atiwari | pub and priv | 20:13 |
| rellerreller | Sounds good | 20:13 |
| redrobot | yep, that's correct, the order resource will return a container ref, the container will specify which keys are private/public and if there's an associated passphrase | 20:14 |
| atiwari | yep | 20:14 |
| atiwari | in case of key type ther will be ref to one secret | 20:15 |
| atiwari | line 138 | 20:15 |
| atiwari | example | 20:15 |
| redrobot | anyone else have input on this? Or do we need some time to review it? | 20:16 |
| atiwari | redrobot, I am ok with more review | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | I assume we don't want to merge this? Just use Gerrit for the review? | 20:16 |
| atiwari | correct | 20:17 |
| redrobot | it would be a good candidate for either an API repo, or for starting our blueprint repo... | 20:17 |
| atiwari | I did not find other way to go through review | 20:17 |
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| redrobot | atiwari, no worries, I don't think we have anything in place right now | 20:17 |
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| atiwari | redrobot we need a sepoarate repo | 20:17 |
| atiwari | redrobot I have stared imp in that direction. just for FYI | 20:18 |
| atiwari | which is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87405/ | 20:18 |
| atiwari | not ready for review | 20:18 |
| woodster_ | I'm hopeful we can discuss these design concepts in more detail at the openstack conf as well. | 20:18 |
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| atiwari | yep, can be keep ball rolling till the summit :) | 20:19 |
| redrobot | Ok, looks like there's no more comments on this for now, let's move on to talk about alee's changes to crypto plugin | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | #topic Crypto plugin changes (DogTag) | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | alee did you want to talk about this? | 20:20 |
| alee | cool - it looks like my changes to the crypto plugin interfac went in today - yay :) | 20:20 |
| alee | now there is also a cr out there for the dogtag plugin itself | 20:21 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84329/ | 20:21 |
| redrobot | sure did | 20:21 |
| alee | has anyone had a chance to review it ? | 20:21 |
| alee | I noticed that atiwari did and chadlung | 20:21 |
| alee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85137/ | 20:22 |
| reaperhulk | I am reviewing it right now alee, but am not done | 20:22 |
| woodster_ | me too | 20:22 |
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| atiwari | alee, it mostly looks good to me just one comment. which is already not a blocker | 20:22 |
| atiwari | as per community members | 20:22 |
| alee | atiwari, the unit tests? | 20:23 |
| atiwari | we need those | 20:23 |
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| atiwari | unit test | 20:23 |
| alee | atiwari, I plan to add those as a separate cr | 20:23 |
| atiwari | why separate | 20:23 |
| atiwari | ? | 20:23 |
| atiwari | separate does not make sense to me | 20:23 |
| alee | doesn't have to be, I can work on them concurrently. The thing is that in order to run the unit tests as part of the build say, we need to be able to install a drm | 20:24 |
| atiwari | we can mock it. | 20:24 |
| atiwari | you don't need drm for unit test | 20:25 |
| atiwari | we don't need a integration test with DRM | 20:26 |
| alee | yes - I suppose we could - I suppose I can create some mock tests | 20:26 |
| woodster_ | atiwari: similar to the test_p11_crypto.py test you mean? | 20:26 |
| alee | although its not clear how valuable such tests would be | 20:26 |
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| atiwari | yes | 20:26 |
| atiwari | alee, I think unit tests are really valuable | 20:27 |
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| reaperhulk | Mocks are of substantially less value than a typical unit test, but I'd like to see some way to do some testing | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | we have been trying to get close to 100% code coverage on crypto tests | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | that is not a gating requirement though | 20:27 |
| lisaclark | do we have any gating requirement to ensure our code coverage doesn't drop below its current level? | 20:28 |
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| reaperhulk | At this time we do not gate on that, no. We implicitly gate on it during code review though :) | 20:28 |
| alee | atiwari, I can provide some mock tests. I just figured that the unit test wasn't really valuable without a real drm. | 20:29 |
| alee | but if it helps move things forward then I'll add them. | 20:29 |
| atiwari | alee, In that case it will not be a unit test. in my opinion | 20:29 |
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| alee | atiwari, fair enough :/ I'll add them. | 20:30 |
| woodster_ | it can be helpful to exercise the business logic in there, to alert of regressions | 20:30 |
| atiwari | correct | 20:30 |
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| atiwari | I think we have an agreement here :) | 20:31 |
| redrobot | #agreed mock tests for dogtag plugin would be helpful | 20:31 |
| alee | (and I'll add them) | 20:31 |
| alee | now -- to discuss integration with a real drm ... | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | k | 20:32 |
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| alee | so if I recall correctly someone had started some work on a recipe to insatll a drm | 20:32 |
| redrobot | yes... we'll it's more of an empty repo at the moment | 20:33 |
| redrobot | #link https://github.com/cloudkeep-ops/chef-dogtag | 20:33 |
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| alee | we probably need to revive that effort for the purpose of actually adding a drm tot he integration tests | 20:33 |
| woodster_ | alee: do you mean devstack tests? | 20:34 |
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| woodster_ | …or true integration with drm testing? | 20:34 |
| redrobot | I think integration tests would be CloudCAFE or Tempest? | 20:34 |
| alee | woodster_, well, thats part of my question actually. what testing should involve a real drm? | 20:34 |
| alee | devstack testing? cloud cafe or tempest? | 20:35 |
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| woodster_ | can it be installed without an HSM, and as a separate module from dogtag? | 20:36 |
| redrobot | I don't think standing up DogTag would be necessary for DevStack gates | 20:36 |
| alee | woodster_, it can be done without hsm | 20:36 |
| alee | woodster_, in that case, drm will use a software based nss certdb | 20:36 |
| alee | for its certs | 20:37 |
| alee | so for my testing -- this is what I did .. | 20:37 |
| redrobot | my preference would be to stand up a dogtag instance and run a full CloudCAFE/Tempest suite against it | 20:38 |
| redrobot | is jvrbanac around? I'd like to hear his thoughts on this | 20:38 |
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| alee | created a python virtual env, copied over the relevant dogtag python libs in the virtual envrionment and ran barbican.sh | 20:38 |
| alee | and then did some testing by passing in requests to the barbican server | 20:39 |
| alee | through curl | 20:39 |
| alee | obviously thats all very manual .. | 20:39 |
| redrobot | yeah, I think it would be awesome to kick off an automated job that would spin up DogTag and run a full regression suite on jenkins.cloudkeep.io | 20:40 |
| alee | redrobot, thats the cloudcafe stuff? | 20:40 |
| jvrbanac | alee, currently yes. We need to start getting these things into Tempest | 20:41 |
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| jvrbanac | I think we need to have a more extended discussion about this | 20:42 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac hash it out at the summit maybe? | 20:42 |
| alee | redrobot, jvrbanac that sounds good to me. I'm not very familiar with the whole structure of the cloud cafe tests and with recipes. Is there anyone who will be able to work with me on this? | 20:42 |
| woodster_ | alee: did you want to try get those cookbooks working in your environment to exercise things? | 20:43 |
| alee | woodster_, I think that would be a great idea | 20:43 |
| atiwari | If we are done with this topic, can I raise one? | 20:44 |
| woodster_ | Chad has been updating documents on the wiki here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican#Automation_Details | 20:44 |
| alee | redrobot, we can certainly hash things out more at the summit. but thats awhile from now. we can get a great deal accomplished if I can get someone to work with me on this the next couple of weeks. | 20:44 |
| woodster_ | we can discuss details outside of the meeting if you'd like | 20:44 |
| alee | woodster_, sure | 20:45 |
| redrobot | alee, jvrbanac is our resident CloudCAFE/Tempest expert. I think he'd be the best person to help you out with this | 20:45 |
| alee | ok -- jvrbanac I'll be pinging you :) | 20:46 |
| woodster_ | yep, so phase 1 would be getting the cookbooks working in your env. phase 2 woudl be the automation/deployemnt/testing part | 20:46 |
| jvrbanac | alee, cool | 20:46 |
| atiwari | Arunkant has posed as cr #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81310/ for BP #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/barbican/+spec/policy-target-support. Waiting for blessings from you guys. | 20:47 |
| atiwari | any one looked at it? | 20:48 |
| arunkant | I have started etherpad for discussion..https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-policy-target-support | 20:48 |
| woodster_ | My concern was that we plan to remove the project-id from the REST URI | 20:49 |
| redrobot | #topic Policy changes | 20:49 |
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| woodster_ | …so the specific purpose of this change (to replace the project-ID check) would not be required | 20:49 |
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| atiwari | woodster_ that is really good idea I am wokong on API proposal for removing tenant_id | 20:50 |
| woodster_ | it seems like a lot of code change for that purpose. It might be helpful for other policy purposes as Adam mentions in comments, but I don't think it is needed right now though | 20:50 |
| atiwari | woodster_ even though you need this for authz purpose | 20:50 |
| woodster_ | You couldn't auth-n without the right token/project-id combo, so the auth-z part is just enforcing RBAC | 20:51 |
| atiwari | woodster_ we can has out the tenant_id less API uris first. is that what you are thinking ? | 20:52 |
| arunkant | It started as the change for that bug..but having target support will be foundation for user isolation work later. This way of policy enforcement is used in number of openstack projects | 20:52 |
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| atiwari | woodster_, correct but within on project multiple use case get token | 20:53 |
| woodster_ | is the user isolation feature planned to be available in keystone v3? | 20:53 |
| atiwari | it is already there | 20:53 |
| atiwari | in v3 | 20:54 |
| woodster_ | ok, that makes sense then | 20:54 |
| arunkant | this is more of isolation of barbican entities at user level and enforcing authz | 20:54 |
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| woodster_ | can the rest of the team proceed on review then? | 20:55 |
| redrobot | will do. | 20:55 |
| atiwari | great | 20:55 |
| redrobot | #agreed policy changes should be reviewed and merged | 20:55 |
| arunkant | Will be helpful to get inputs from team..thanks | 20:55 |
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| redrobot | ok, guys, running out of time for this one. | 20:56 |
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| redrobot | atiwari, we'll have to revisit summit topics next time. | 20:56 |
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| arunkant | Can we tie this to milestone target in Juno? | 20:56 |
| atiwari | ok | 20:56 |
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| redrobot | arunkant, yeah. all new CRs will be targeting juno-1 | 20:58 |
| atiwari | woodster_ and all, just FYI.. , soon I will submit API change proposal for tenant_id less rest API. ping you guys | 20:58 |
| redrobot | time flies when you're having fun. :) | 20:58 |
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| redrobot | I think that's all the time we have this week. Be sure to update the wiki if you guys have any topics for next week. | 20:58 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 21 20:58:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-04-21-20.02.html | 20:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-04-21-20.02.txt | 20:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-04-21-20.02.log.html | 20:58 |
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