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baoli#startmeeting PCI Passthrough12:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 10 12:59:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough'13:00
baoliHi13:00
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rkukurahi13:00
sadasuHello13:01
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irenabhi13:02
baoliHi Everyone13:02
irenabI can attend only 1/2 hour today13:02
baoliSaw messages from you guys. looks like that we are making a lot of progress13:03
baoliirenab, sure13:03
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irenabjust pushed the patch for vnic_type as WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72334/13:03
baoliCool, I'll take a look at it.13:03
baoliIrenab, saw your eamil about the getting the physical network info on the nova side13:04
sadasuirenab: thanks will take a look13:04
irenabithe bp is still blocked, need rkukura to resolve it13:04
irenabbaoli, sadasu: thanks13:04
rkukuraI've been trying to discuss this with markmclain. Should be able to today.13:05
irenabit is just the initial patch, so maybe reworked, but think we need some code to understand better what to do13:05
irenabrkukura: hi13:05
rkukuraI'll review it ASAP.13:05
irenabI am not sure it is the best way to add vnic_type in current implementation, had to do some stuff to pass unit tests...13:06
irenabAny comments are more than wellcome13:06
irenaband need to add more unit tests too13:06
baoliOk, can we talk about nova getting the physical network information?13:07
irenabrkukura: any updates on your side?13:07
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rkukuraThe binding:vif_details patch is almost ready - definitely today.13:08
sadasurkukura: thanks!13:09
rkukuraI haven't started on binding:profile yet, but that is next.13:09
irenabrkukura: would it be possible to put physicla network in vif_details dict?13:09
baolirkukura, cool, I think that we'd like to see the patches ASAP.13:09
rkukurabaoli: agreed13:10
irenabalso, is there bp/bug in nova to make it available to VIFDriver?13:10
baoli#topic nova getting physical network information13:10
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rkukurairenab: I think that is needed - see the email with baoli13:10
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baoliAs I understand it, nova uses non-admin user priviledge to access the neutron network.13:11
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rkukuraWe want to make the entire binding:vif_details dict available to the VIF driver, right?13:11
irenabI think baoli needs it on port create, but not mandatorily to propagate to VIFDriver13:11
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irenabbaoli: exactly13:11
baolihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59093/13:11
irenabrkukura: yes13:11
rkukurabaoli: It does currently use admin to create/update port with binding:host_id13:11
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irenabrkukura: its for port, not network13:12
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irenabI think we can rework the bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59093/ to propogate vif_details13:13
irenabthis but is driven by Itzik from my team to enable current Mellanox MD13:13
irenab^bug13:14
rkukurabaoli: Right about needing admin for the providernet (or multiprovidernet) network attributes13:14
irenabafter inspecting the neutronV2/api, for network it used caller context and for port it uses admin context13:15
rkukuraIs there any easy way to have nova only access the [multi]providernet details when SR-IOV has been requested?13:15
baolirkukura, I think that the issue is: nova needs to enforce the rule that you can only create ports on the networks that the user owns.13:16
rkukurabaoli: Good point, but that really should be enforced by neutron, not nova, right?13:17
irenabbaoli: still not sure that nova cannot get access to read attributes that should be seen by admin only...13:17
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irenabbut it seems quite a change to current implementation13:17
baoliTherefore, if nova needs to get the physcial net infor for a non-admin user, it may need to call neutron twice: once to make sure that the user owns the net, second to use admin context to retrieve the physical net infor13:18
baolirkukura, neutron is enforceing it, but nova needs to choose the user context (admin or non-admin) when sending requests to neutron, right?13:18
irenabbaoli: possible, just adding another call to neutron13:18
rkukurabaoli: It seems to me that nova should do the port-create with user context, then set binding:host_id (and binding:profile) separately as admin13:19
irenaband also get vif_details as admin13:20
rkukuraI'd think the enforcement would be inside port_create13:20
baoliguys, we assume that port-create is done by neutron at this point, right? we plan to do "neutron port-create" for SRIOV in the initial release13:20
irenabbaoli: yes13:20
rkukuraRight, admin is needed to get vif_details from the port and to get physical_network(s) from the port's network13:20
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irenabstill for virtio port, it is possible to create usually13:20
baoliirenab, that's right13:21
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rkukuraI need to get more familiar with the current nova code to be of much help here. I'll try to do that today.13:24
baoliDuring port create, is it possible for neutron to set the physical net name(s) in the port object?13:24
irenabcoming to back to the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59093/, we can either add there another call to neutron with admin or get vif_details and propagate to VIF Driver13:24
irenabbaoli: for Mellanox plugin we added it in binding:profile13:25
rkukurabaoli: Are you asking about setting a physical network name in binding:profile on the port?13:25
baoliirenab, vif_details is not available when binding hasn't occured as rkukura has pointed out.13:25
irenabbaoli:I think its fine, since if binding hasn't occur, there is no need for VIFDriver part13:26
baolirkurura, I actually don't mind where it stores, I simply ask if it makes sense to do that.13:26
rkukuraNova will need to get binding:vif_details from the port at the same time it currently gets binding:vif_type. Both require it to be bound, and need admin.13:26
baoliirenab, nova need that info for scheduling if we are all on the same page13:26
irenabrkukura: do you think binding:profile will be available if port is not bound? I do not think so13:27
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rkukurabaoli: I think we need nova to tell neutron which (of possibly several) physical networks it has allocated a SR-IOV VF for, right?13:27
irenabbaoli: seems the best is to get it from network...13:28
rkukurairenab: Yes, binding:profile is input to the plugin, so whatever is set by a client is readable (by admin)13:28
baolirkukura, yes. But that's after the scheduing has occured, And scheduling needs the physical net infor.13:28
irenabso binding:profile is not a candidate to contain the physical network info13:29
rkukurabaoli: Right. Weren't we agreeing nova would need to use the [multi]providernet attributes on the network as admin to get the possible physical networks for the port?13:29
baolirkukura, so scheduling needs to know all the physical nets before scheduling, and then tell neutron which physical net is chosen13:29
rkukurabaoli: That was my interpretation based on the IRC chat and email thread13:30
baolirkukura, if it's ok for everyone to make the two calls in order to retrieve the physcial net(s), it is still the plan.13:30
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irenabso are we agree the nova will need to call neutron with admin context to get network [provider:physical_netowrk]?13:30
rkukurabaoli: So either nova will make one get-network call as admin, or two, first as user, second as admin, right?13:31
irenabsorry, need to swtich to another meeting, will follow up13:31
baolirkukura, that's what I thought13:31
baolibecause nova really need to make sure that the user owns the net(s)13:32
rkukurabaoli: I'm not sure why get-network has to be called as the user. Isn't tenant_id returned either way?13:33
rkukurabaoli: I need to [re-]read the nova code to see how it currently works, including how the owenership is enforced.13:36
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rkukurabaoli_: I see you just rejoined13:39
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baoli_I got disconnected. Not sure if I missed anything13:39
rkukuraNot much...13:39
baoli_ok13:39
rkukurarkukura:  baoli: I'm not sure why get-network has to be called as the user. Isn't tenant_id returned either way?13:39
rkukurarkukura:  baoli: I need to [re-]read the nova code to see how it currently works, including how the owenership is enforced.13:39
baoli_ok13:40
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rkukuraAnything else critical to cover here, or should we get back to coding up patches, etc.?13:40
baoli_rkukura, the other issue is what fields should be there in binding:profile for SRIOV. We need to nail that down.13:41
rkukurabaoli_: Agreed. Is this covered in the wikis?13:43
baoli_since irenab is not here, I think that we can resume tomorrow. We should resolve two things: 1) nova gets physical net infor 2) what fields are there in binding:profile and binding:vif_details  for SRIOV13:43
rkukurabaoli_: Makes sense to me.13:43
baoli_rkukura, our original doc and irenab's wiki touched upon this, and I think Irenab's wiki should be considered lastest.13:44
rkukuraok13:44
baoli_https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RfxfXBNB0mD_kH9SamwqPI8ZM-jg797ky_Fze7SakRc/edit13:44
baoli_So, we'll resume tomorrow?13:45
rkukuraOK. Its possible I'll be a few minutes late, assuming I head to the office after dropping kids off at school, depending on traffic.13:46
baoli_ok, that should be fine. We'll exchange emails as well.13:48
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baoli_#endmeeting13:48
rkukurabaoli_: Thanks. Not sure if the MeetBot will recognize you as baoli_.13:49
baoli_right, can you do #endmeeting to collect logs?13:50
rkukura#endmeeting13:50
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baoli#endmeeting13:50
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb 10 13:50:49 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:50
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baolihere we go13:50
rkukuraThat did it - need to be chair I guess.13:51
baoliok, talk to you later.13:51
rkukurafeel free to ping me on IRC or email if needed13:51
baolisure13:52
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sarob#startmeeting training-mqni17:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 10 17:02:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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sarob#endmeeting17:02
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb 10 17:02:24 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:02
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_mqni/2014/training_mqni.2014-02-10-17.02.html17:02
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_mqni/2014/training_mqni.2014-02-10-17.02.txt17:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_mqni/2014/training_mqni.2014-02-10-17.02.log.html17:02
sarob#startmeeting training-manuals17:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 10 17:02:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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sarobRoll call17:03
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sarob#topic development guide rough draft focus for feb17:04
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sarob#topic moodle17:04
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sarobHey17:04
dguitarbitehi sarob:17:05
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dguitarbiteI hosted a test quiz on moodle with 30 students17:05
dguitarbiteand moodle works fine :)17:05
sarobCool17:06
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dguitarbiteyou can login to check the quiz stats17:06
sarobNice17:07
sarobAny luck on using openID?17:07
dguitarbiteLaunchpad login is not possible as of now17:07
dguitarbitetoo much PHP hacking17:07
smemon92hi17:07
sarobOpenID in general?17:07
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dguitarbitenot sure, could not find any plugins for OpenID too17:08
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dguitarbiteunfortunaty infra-meetings agendas are to be posted before the meeting so I will talk with infra guys tomm.17:09
sarobWe need to link openstack account in some way17:09
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sarobThey are looking at SSO17:09
dguitarbiteok, need to work on that17:09
dguitarbiteSSO?17:09
sarobMaybe twitter google or yahoo openIDs?17:10
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sarobSomeone must have thought of17:10
dguitarbiteI dunno, need to look into it17:10
sarobOr wants to17:10
dguitarbiteyep, but we need something that works17:11
dguitarbitethere is email based authentication17:11
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sarob#link http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0SO8xY4CPlSp28AiMdx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByNzhwY2hkBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/SIG=12hm6fe05/EXP=1392081080/**https%3a//moodle.org/plugins/view.php%3fplugin=local_openid_idp17:11
sarobMoodle openID plugin17:12
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sarobIs this a start or something you already looked at?17:12
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dguitarbiteok, I will look into this before infra meeting17:13
sarobOkay17:13
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dguitarbiteits a start for sure, i just focused on Launchpad and OpenID login17:13
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dguitarbiteworst case, the email auth works fine with moodle17:13
sarobI'll hook you up with Matjaz pancur17:13
dguitarbitekool17:13
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sarobHis university uses moodle17:14
sarobHe wants to help with the guides17:14
dguitarbitekool, nothing like it.17:14
sarob Out of Slovenia , he will start joining these meetings17:15
dguitarbitewould be good to have some university/college feedback17:15
sarobDef17:15
sarob#topic any other business17:16
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dguitarbiteI am getting done with the current training session tommorow, hopefully we get a few more contributors17:16
sarobNice17:16
sarobWe should blog on progress17:17
sarobI'll start that today17:17
dguitarbiteok17:17
sarobThat's all I have17:18
dguitarbitealso I got a student to explain OpenStack Architecture in a very nice way, do you think we can post his blog ?17:18
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sarobSure17:19
dguitarbitehe is using good story based example to explain logical diagram of OpenStack17:19
sarobHow do you want to post?17:19
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dguitarbitemay be on Aptira Blog first17:20
dguitarbitegive him some twitter love17:20
sarobThat's good17:20
sarobI'll post on tumblr17:20
sarobPost links on twitter then retweet for traffic17:20
dguitarbitekool17:20
sarobGotta go17:20
sarobAny thing else?17:21
dguitarbitenope17:21
sarobCheers guys17:21
sarob#endmeeting17:21
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dguitarbitecheers, bye17:21
openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb 10 17:21:50 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:21
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smemon92bye17:21
sarobBye17:22
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jraim#startmeeting barbican20:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 10 20:01:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jraim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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jeblair#endmeeting21:36
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb 10 21:36:06 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:36
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-02-10-20.01.html21:36
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jeblairfungi: ^ meeting was actually running21:36
fungioh!21:36
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fungiright, it died on them mid-meeting looks like21:36
jeblairfungi: i used 'listmeetings' to learn that and then 'addchair' to fix21:36
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jeblairfungi: (private msg commands to openstack)21:37
fungijeblair: thanks! noted21:37
fungithough in theory it should have been past the one-hour expiration so you shouldn't have needed to be a chair for this one at least21:37
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