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| dguitarbite | hello | 14:01 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-manuals | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 29 14:01:18 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-manuals)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals' | 14:01 |
| sarob | Hello | 14:01 |
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| dguitarbite | is the hackathon on for this week? | 14:01 |
| sarob | Yes 7pm pdt wed | 14:02 |
| dguitarbite | kool | 14:02 |
| sarob | Only topic on my agenda | 14:02 |
| sarob | Is mapping your content to the books | 14:03 |
| colinmcn_ | colin is here | 14:03 |
| sarob | Hay | 14:04 |
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| dguitarbite | hi colin | 14:04 |
| colinmcn_ | hello all | 14:04 |
| sarob | So I want to talk aptira to training guide books mapping | 14:05 |
| dguitarbite | ok | 14:06 |
| sarob | The rest can wait I think | 14:06 |
| colinmcn_ | agreed | 14:06 |
| dguitarbite | so what I have pushed to the repo is most of the filtered content which was ready for training | 14:07 |
| dguitarbite | lot of content as of now is in rough form, links and references, and sticky notes | 14:07 |
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| sarob | Existing labs goto assoc | 14:08 |
| dguitarbite | yes | 14:08 |
| sarob | Any that go to oper or Dev? | 14:08 |
| dguitarbite | we need to filter it out | 14:09 |
| dguitarbite | some stuff goes to oper and dev | 14:09 |
| dguitarbite | like nova VM Placement, detailed architecture on neutron, swift etc. which | 14:09 |
| dguitarbite | is not needed for Associate is present in there | 14:09 |
| dguitarbite | do you want me to link the PPTs? | 14:10 |
| sarob | Sure | 14:10 |
| dguitarbite | https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwW8_7qMZvNPb1BiZU9fRG1NSWc&usp=sharing | 14:11 |
| dguitarbite | its not complete, as I said loads of the content is there on my local Sticky Notes app Tomboy | 14:11 |
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| sarob | Okay | 14:13 |
| dguitarbite | do you want me to push the slides on the docs once they are completed? | 14:14 |
| sarob | So let focus on the first book and what you have merged | 14:14 |
| dguitarbite | ok | 14:14 |
| sarob | Cause deadline of 14nov | 14:14 |
| sarob | Rest we work on after | 14:15 |
| dguitarbite | so the books for Associate training are already in the manuals repo | 14:15 |
| dguitarbite | the xmls are named modulexx-chapterxx | 14:15 |
| dguitarbite | three modules | 14:15 |
| dguitarbite | 1: Overview + OpenStack Keystone,Glance,Cinder,Nova | 14:16 |
| dguitarbite | 2. Networking | 14:16 |
| dguitarbite | 3. Obj Store | 14:16 |
| dguitarbite | the problem with these modules is that its not designed as per training-manuals breakdown | 14:16 |
| sarob | Okay | 14:17 |
| dguitarbite | Associate, Oper, Dev , Arch | 14:17 |
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| sarob | And the labs merged only go with assoc as well | 14:17 |
| dguitarbite | no | 14:18 |
| dguitarbite | in Labs section, only Virtual Box stuff which is unique is merged | 14:18 |
| dguitarbite | rest will be covered by Basic Install guide | 14:19 |
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| sarob | Okay | 14:19 |
| sarob | So we had planned overview, install, theory, labs, test | 14:21 |
| sarob | With quizzes throughout | 14:21 |
| sarob | Does this work for you? | 14:21 |
| dguitarbite | yes | 14:22 |
| sarob | Cool | 14:22 |
| sarob | Can you create a patch to redistribute your existing content these areas? | 14:23 |
| sarob | I will clean up what's there now to this org as well | 14:24 |
| dguitarbite | ok, rite now my priority is to finish with slides, so is it ok if I patch by the end of this week? | 14:24 |
| sarob | Sure that timing will be good | 14:25 |
| dguitarbite | when are you guys travelling? | 14:25 |
| sarob | I'm leaving this Friday | 14:25 |
| colinmcn_ | I'm leaving on saturday | 14:25 |
| dguitarbite | ok, so i guess by monday you will get time to access | 14:26 |
| dguitarbite | the review | 14:26 |
| colinmcn_ | ideally | 14:26 |
| colinmcn_ | can't really count on good inet access over the pacific | 14:26 |
| sarob | I'll be working as soon as I get there | 14:26 |
| dguitarbite | al rite ill plan my commits as per that | 14:26 |
| dguitarbite | yes @sarob you will be there by sunday Kong Kong time I guess | 14:27 |
| sarob | Colinmcn_ there are a bunch of no content chapters | 14:28 |
| sarob | Sections | 14:28 |
| colinmcn_ | currently/ | 14:28 |
| sarob | Placeholders? | 14:28 |
| colinmcn_ | ? | 14:28 |
| colinmcn_ | nope | 14:28 |
| colinmcn_ | check source content | 14:28 |
| colinmcn_ | geting moved | 14:28 |
| sarob | Ah | 14:29 |
| sarob | Right | 14:29 |
| colinmcn_ | the basic install guide | 14:29 |
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| colinmcn_ | I think the rest of the docs team wanted to delete it | 14:29 |
| dguitarbite | yea, one request, can you put the placeholders if possible? it will save loads of my time | 14:29 |
| colinmcn_ | we include ab unch | 14:29 |
| colinmcn_ | bunch | 14:29 |
| sarob | So they must be missing the image for remote content | 14:30 |
| colinmcn_ | I can check the build. | 14:30 |
| colinmcn_ | I am going into dental surgery today, and then heads down till I go to sleep | 14:30 |
| colinmcn_ | I'll try to take a look | 14:30 |
| sarob | I will work on book structure today | 14:31 |
| colinmcn_ | (paying the price for having a day job) | 14:31 |
| sarob | Place quizzes | 14:31 |
| sarob | And the like | 14:31 |
| sarob | I will update and or create the missing content from github | 14:32 |
| colinmcn_ | we need to pull an earlier commit / review that was working | 14:32 |
| colinmcn_ | and then compare the two | 14:32 |
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| sarob | Rough draft 0.1 by the end of the day | 14:32 |
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| sarob | Right that's what I will do | 14:32 |
| dguitarbite | can someone put up placeholders? if they are clear on the structure of the docs? | 14:32 |
| sarob | I will | 14:33 |
| sarob | It will be part of my work today | 14:33 |
| dguitarbite | thanks, cuz it will be redundant to restructure them again | 14:33 |
| sarob | Roger that | 14:33 |
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| colinmcn_ | +1 | 14:34 |
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| sarob | That's all I have | 14:34 |
| colinmcn_ | me too | 14:35 |
| dguitarbite | same here | 14:35 |
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| sarob | Cool then 25 min back | 14:35 |
| colinmcn_ | thx a bunch everyone | 14:35 |
| sarob | Y'all have a good one | 14:35 |
| colinmcn_ | you 2 | 14:36 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate)" | 14:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 29 14:36:23 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-29-14.01.html | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-29-14.01.txt | 14:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_manuals/2013/training_manuals.2013-10-29-14.01.log.html | 14:36 |
| dguitarbite | :) im gonna crash need me for somethg? | 14:36 |
| sarob | Good luck on your surgery | 14:36 |
| dguitarbite | good luck | 14:36 |
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| sarob | Nope cheers bud | 14:37 |
| dguitarbite | i guess he left before reading, cheers. ... ive been low on health since last week | 14:37 |
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| sarob | Less coffee more sleep | 14:38 |
| dguitarbite | ya | 14:38 |
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| sarob | Feel better and talk to soon | 14:39 |
| dguitarbite | thanks, gbye | 14:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Hi Neutron folks! | 15:30 |
| bmelande | Hi Sumit | 15:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi bob! | 15:30 |
| bmelande | Bob here | 15:30 |
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| obondarev | hi all | 15:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi oleg | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wait a couple mins to see if anyone else is joining | 15:31 |
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| greg_r | hi | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we can get started after that | 15:31 |
| yamahata | hi | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi greg! | 15:31 |
| SridarK | hi | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi isaku | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi Sridar | 15:31 |
| ericloo | hi | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | waiting to see if Nachi will join, he said he would | 15:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi ericloo | 15:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is enikanorov_ here? | 15:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok i guess we can get started with whoever is around | 15:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking Advanced Services | 15:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 29 15:33:16 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking Advanced Services)" | 15:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_advanced_services' | 15:33 |
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| nati_ueno | hi! | 15:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining, hope everyone is excited about meeting in HK :-) | 15:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi nati_ueno, perfect time, we were waiting for you :-) | 15:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for the folks on PDT, since this is early for you | 15:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we went for this time slot to accommodate young's request, but he doesn't join the meetings | 15:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so may be we can switch to a different time for any future meetings (post summit) | 15:34 |
| greg_r | works for me | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks greg_r, yeah for me as well ;-) | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic service insertion and chaining | 15:35 |
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| amotoki | hi | 15:35 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: oops sorry. I'm little bit late :) | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-services-insertion-chaining-steering | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi amotoki, thanks for joining | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: we are just getting started | 15:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info: #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/7f9b9c47d02789e67885ca81d9d42a3f | 15:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | per action item in the last meeting, i have added the CLI-based workflow to the design document | 15:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this does not include any changes which Eugene's proposal on extensible APIs may introduce | 15:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we can keep that aside for now | 15:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we made changes to the design based on the feedback from the face-2-face meeting | 15:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we removed the "insertion mode" from the context as well as the device_provider table | 15:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also, only insetion_context needs to be provided, not insertion mode | 15:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | when creating service | 15:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the claim is that the provider can infer the insertion mode based on the context | 15:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe this was what most people were suggesting | 15:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone got a chance to take a look? | 15:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | discussed this with a few folks offline | 15:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i know there have been lots of blueprints and designs to look at in the past few days :-) | 15:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | apart from the ones that you are probably working on as well in preparation for the summit | 15:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so assuming we make progress on this current design during the summit, i wanted to bring up the discussion of how we are going to implement at least one chain | 15:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | based on the face-2-face discussion, the thinking was that we will first implement FWaaS-VPN chain | 15:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | based on the reference implementation, that is | 15:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thoughts? | 15:41 |
| SridarK | i think this is good - we just want to make sure there are no corner cases | 15:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: ok, any that you can think of? | 15:43 |
| SridarK | we can do some more work offline to make sure | 15:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay | 15:43 |
| amotoki | it seems a good start point. | 15:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so given that our reference implementation for both services is in the L3 context, we were thinking that the service chain can be driven via the L3 service plugin | 15:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: ok | 15:43 |
| amotoki | Do we need to define service-chain-provider per combination of service providers? | 15:43 |
| nati_ueno | I'm ok with current design. we should start prototyping | 15:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: that is the current suggestion (we could have default provider) | 15:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i meant default provider for chain | 15:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: ok | 15:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: any specific thoughts on prototyping? | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | so we should have a list of small bps | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | then let's finish one by one | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | Do we have the list now? | 15:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: yeah sure | 15:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: no, but i was going to wait for the summit discussion | 15:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | may be not required to wait | 15:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets discuss offline and get a list ready | 15:46 |
| nati_ueno | yeah, may be it won't be merged before the summit | 15:46 |
| nati_ueno | but concrete code will help a concrete discussion | 15:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam and nati_ueno to decide on the list of blueprints | 15:46 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: Which one should be the first target? | 15:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: i doubt how far we will get with the code before the summit itself | 15:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: which one, as in? | 15:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we should target the refactoring on the individual service insertion first | 15:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | if that is what you meant | 15:47 |
| nati_ueno | I agree | 15:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | once we are done with that, we can look at the chain | 15:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: ok | 15:48 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: how about to have crud for service insersion context? | 15:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so for individual insertion we need to introduce the insertion_context, and that should be a non-disruptive change | 15:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: yeah you read my mind :-) | 15:49 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: ha ha you too | 15:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meanwhile we can check with lbaas as well | 15:49 |
| nati_ueno | yes it is also service implementation independent | 15:49 |
| nati_ueno | since we have only 1 hour in the summit | 15:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since they plan to implement LBaaS logical instance just like FWaas and VPNaaS | 15:50 |
| nati_ueno | may be discussing this insertion context is enough at the summit | 15:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: yeah | 15:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: i think we can lay out the general plan | 15:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and how we want to go about it in steps | 15:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | first independent service insertion, then chains | 15:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | depending on how much time we have | 15:51 |
| nati_ueno | OK let's me write it if there is no existing code | 15:51 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: if you wanna write it, it is Ok too | 15:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam nati_ueno to hash out the list of blueprints for insertion_context and chains | 15:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: yeah we can collaborate | 15:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | others also welcome to join | 15:52 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: sure. I'll send you the wip. | 15:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: thanks | 15:53 |
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| greg_r | just a note, useful to have an over-arching blueprint? | 15:53 |
| nati_ueno | +1 | 15:53 |
| greg_r | One that shows the workflow for services end to end | 15:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: yes | 15:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: that is the current insertion and chaining blueprint | 15:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can add the workflow for reference implementation | 15:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that way it helps to have all the information in one place | 15:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i mean on the google doc | 15:54 |
| greg_r | that would be good | 15:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | each individual blueprint can have more details and its own spec | 15:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the implementation of the chain (which is second step) i was thinking that we can leverage the L3 service plugin footprint | 15:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: thoughts? | 15:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to plant the seed | 15:55 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: yes it might be possible | 15:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: we can discuss later | 15:56 |
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| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: Did you mean to do that through a separate l3 servicep lugin | 15:56 |
| bmelande | ? | 15:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: not separate | 15:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: there should be only one reference implementation, right? | 15:56 |
| bmelande | Yes, sorry, you're right. | 15:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i mean for the L3 service plugin | 15:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 15:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | should we move to the next topic | 15:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ? | 15:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic common L3 agent framework | 15:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1e85n2IE38XoYwlsqNvqhKFLox6O01SbguZXq7SnSSGo/edit#slide=id.p | 15:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: are we still doing Option2-2, is there a blueprint? | 15:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i noticed that we are not discussing this during the summit? | 15:58 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: not yet | 15:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | do we plan to do this in Icehouse? | 15:58 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: I'll register it | 15:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: ok, so for Icehouse? | 15:59 |
| bmelande | nati_ueno: do you have any thoughts on expanding the agent to configure other than reference implemenation namespaces? | 15:59 |
| bmelande | nati_ueno: Like remote devices or VMs? | 15:59 |
| yamahata | +1 for service VMs | 16:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i wanted to bring up reference implementation in the context of the service VM discussion | 16:01 |
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| SridarK | nati_ueno: i can help any ways we will need to refactor fwaas agent | 16:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: so you mean changes to the L3 agent for generic VMs/devices? | 16:02 |
| SridarK | nati_ueno: or other things - we can talk at the summit | 16:02 |
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| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, I dont think that would be that difficult adbn couyld be made backward compatible | 16:03 |
| bmelande | Sorry for my spelling... | 16:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: ok, but that would require defining an interface between L3 agent and driver? | 16:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | where the driver would handle the specifics of, say VM, or remote device | 16:04 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, something like that | 16:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: ok makes sense to me | 16:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i would tend to think that this is slightly separate from the L3 agent refactoring work | 16:04 |
| bmelande | I got half a slot on Fridag | 16:04 |
| yamahata | May I ask what 'remove device' means? device on compute node or other? | 16:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sure | 16:05 |
| bmelande | Friday at summit. Was hoping to bring that up then | 16:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: great | 16:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: i believe remote device is the actual router | 16:05 |
| bmelande | yamahata: Service VM or hardware device | 16:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | physical router in this case | 16:05 |
| yamahata | Got it, thanks | 16:05 |
| amotoki | regarding service VM, do we need to support point-to-point link between VMs? | 16:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: our next topic is service VMs | 16:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | can you hold on to that question for a min | 16:06 |
| amotoki | please go ahead. | 16:06 |
| nati_ueno | yeah. it is too implementation specific topic. | 16:06 |
| nati_ueno | yes I think so | 16:06 |
| nati_ueno | it is needed to write service chaining prototype | 16:06 |
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| nati_ueno | Sorry I should go now | 16:06 |
| nati_ueno | TL! | 16:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: thanks | 16:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: my understanding is that the L3 agent refactoring is that it targets allowing different L3 services via the same agent | 16:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets move on | 16:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service VMs - Mechanism | 16:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: there | 16:07 |
| greg_r | yes | 16:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you want to take amotoki's question? | 16:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/adv-services-in-vms | 16:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/1deb4de716730ca7cecf0c3b968bc592 | 16:08 |
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| greg_r | ok, there is currently nothing specified specifically for point to point links between vms | 16:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: any specific use case you had in mind? | 16:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: HA or something like that? | 16:08 |
| amotoki | what in my mind is an transparent appliance. | 16:09 |
| greg_r | the current use cases in the BP dont cover that | 16:09 |
| amotoki | got it. it is just an example. it is similar to BITW. | 16:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: ok, you want to chain multiple VMs? | 16:10 |
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| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: right. it is one of what i think | 16:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: ok | 16:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: i believe you made progress on the taxonomy as well ;-) | 16:11 |
| amotoki | it can be one of the fundamentals to support service chaining. we can discuss it as a separate topic. | 16:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: yeah, currently we leave it to the provider of the chain to figure that out | 16:11 |
| greg_r | yes, several updates to the spec | 16:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: but good point | 16:11 |
| bmelande | amotoki: Is p2p a necessity for chaining? | 16:12 |
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| bmelande | amotoki: Could it not be done using neutron networks? | 16:12 |
| greg_r | it seems like a performance optimization? | 16:12 |
| amotoki | bmelande: it is not a requirement I think. | 16:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: agree, not a requirement | 16:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: not the most common way of doing it | 16:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: in my observation that is | 16:13 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: which, P2p or using Neutron network? | 16:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: Neutron network is the common way | 16:14 |
| amotoki | agree | 16:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: Mike T does not seem to be here | 16:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: anything related to his input that you wanted to bring up? | 16:15 |
| greg_r | ok, Mike T did contribute to the latest version | 16:15 |
| greg_r | we covered his changes and merged into the spec | 16:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: ok great | 16:15 |
| greg_r | we tentatively decided to leave out some of the use cases he proposed | 16:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I would imagine he is in agreement? | 16:15 |
| greg_r | and we left in the use cases that we thought would be acheivable for first cut | 16:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which ones did we leave out? | 16:16 |
| greg_r | he is in agreement | 16:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 16:16 |
| greg_r | we left in the cases where only one tenant is supported | 16:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: ok that makes sense to me | 16:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at least thats a good starting point | 16:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so that brings up the question of reference implementation | 16:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: what is the plan on reference implementation? | 16:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for service VM | 16:17 |
| greg_r | reference implementation, we do not have a specific target for that | 16:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: ok | 16:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have a number of options | 16:18 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam, greg_r: we can contribute to a refernce implementation | 16:18 |
| yamahata | I'm willing to help reference implementation | 16:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but I would imagine that we would need a reference implementation to make progress in terms of getting the patches in | 16:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: great, thanks | 16:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps this is a longer topic | 16:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | maybe we can huddle during the summit and come up with a plan | 16:19 |
| greg_r | Agreed: we can have an e-mail exchange before? | 16:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam greg_r yamahata to discussion candidate reference implementation for service VMs | 16:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | greg_r: agree | 16:19 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam, greg_r: one thing that the document does not talk so much about yet is the plugging part of the VM framework | 16:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else on service VMs | 16:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande:by plugging you mean, how it is consumed? | 16:20 |
| greg_r | bmelande: yes, what is needed? | 16:20 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam, greg_r: I'm also willing to help with reference implementation | 16:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: great, thanks! | 16:20 |
| greg_r | bmelande: great! | 16:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: you earlier question? | 16:20 |
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| bmelande | I mean, service instance can be dynamically added/removed from networks | 16:21 |
| bmelande | Like, router-interface-add/delete | 16:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action SumitNaiksatam greg_r yamahata bmelande to discussion candidate reference implementation for service VMs | 16:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: ah, good point | 16:21 |
| bmelande | This would imply that the service VM needs to be plugged into and off networks | 16:21 |
| greg_r | bmelande: got it | 16:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: right | 16:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we should have APIs for that | 16:22 |
| bmelande | We should discuss that further as we go along | 16:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe we haven't fleshed out the APIs for the library yet | 16:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the -> this | 16:23 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, right | 16:23 |
| greg_r | True, actually yamahata has started that, but i am behind. :) | 16:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action greg_r bmelande yamahata to discuss service VM library APIs | 16:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything more on this topic? | 16:24 |
| amotoki | Let me follow my question. | 16:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: sure | 16:24 |
| amotoki | The difference between p2p and neutron network is: (1) support of multicast or broadcast and (2) L2 learning is not needed. | 16:24 |
| amotoki | it is a separate topic. | 16:24 |
| greg_r | amotoki: noted | 16:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: agree | 16:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: with P2P link its pretty much a physical wire between the two VMs | 16:25 |
| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: right. | 16:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: so its probably easier to achieve chaining in that case | 16:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: don't have to worry about steering traffic | 16:26 |
| amotoki | it is a good information to a provider. | 16:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: good point | 16:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service VMs - Policy | 16:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dynamic-network-resource-mgmt | 16:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/782186bf7a0ad388ef823bd0b5cd2b0e | 16:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Geoff A is not here | 16:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at least i don't see him | 16:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I believe he is busy preparing :-) | 16:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Extensible API: deal with growing services | 16:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info #link http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/7ed1b0286b3d5aefd23bb9a69d3faba3 | 16:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i did not get a pong back from here either | 16:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not sure if there is anything to discuss before the summit | 16:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | any parting thoughts before we unite at the summit again? ;-) | 16:28 |
| yamahata | Maybe slightly off topic, can we have vlan-VM unconference? | 16:29 |
| greg_r | happy travels | 16:29 |
| greg_r | yamahata: good point | 16:30 |
| bmelande | yamahata: what do you mean by vlan-VM? | 16:30 |
| bmelande | yamahata: vlan trunks to the VM? | 16:30 |
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| yamahata | bmelande, right. | 16:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: perhaps include in the service VM bp as well | 16:30 |
| bmelande | yamahata: +1 | 16:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: we were having this discussion in the context of fwaas as well | 16:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: lets take offline | 16:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else? | 16:31 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: Can we continue with regular mtg post summit as well - helps keep things moving | 16:31 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: Kyle has a blueprint for vlan trunks | 16:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: sure, i think Nachi had the same suggestion | 16:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: lets discuss during the summit, and we can come up with a good time for everyone | 16:32 |
| SridarK | great thanks | 16:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can decide the frequency of the meetings | 16:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: yes, we did ping kyle | 16:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: however its a little short on what we need | 16:32 |
| yamahata | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-network-bundle-api | 16:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | will add you to the thread | 16:32 |
| yamahata | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms | 16:33 |
| bmelande | SumitNaiksatam: We use vlan trunk capability in n1kv plugin together with service VM. It is very useful | 16:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bmelande: yes definitely, i am aware :-) | 16:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: thanks | 16:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, folks we are little past our 60 mins | 16:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see you all at the summit | 16:33 |
| greg_r | ok thanks | 16:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for joning today | 16:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye for now | 16:34 |
| amotoki | see you all at HK. | 16:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | discussions on mailing list and emails | 16:34 |
| bmelande | Bye, bye. Next HK. | 16:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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| SridarK | bye | 16:34 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 29 16:34:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-29-15.33.html | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-29-15.33.txt | 16:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-29-15.33.log.html | 16:34 |
| yamahata | See ya | 16:34 |
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| lifeless | hi hi hi | 19:01 |
| dkehn | hi | 19:01 |
| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 29 19:01:34 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 19:01 |
| marios | hi | 19:01 |
| jog0 | o/ | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:01 |
| lsmola | hello | 19:01 |
| ifarkas | hi | 19:01 |
| slagle | hello | 19:01 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 19:01 |
| bnemec | \o | 19:01 |
| tzumainn | hiya | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:02 | |
| lifeless | bugs | 19:02 |
| lifeless | reviews | 19:02 |
| lifeless | Projects needing releases | 19:02 |
| lifeless | CD Cloud status | 19:02 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 19:02 |
| lifeless | Insert one-off agenda items here | 19:02 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 19:02 |
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| lifeless | I want to try and have more time for discussion today, so the regular stuff is going to be rapidfire | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #topic bugs | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:02 | |
| jcoufal | o/ | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:02 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1245852 | 19:03 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1245863 | 19:03 |
| shadower | hey, sorry I'm late | 19:03 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: whats needed to close 1245863 in tripleo ? | 19:03 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: it's been merged to Heat so we effectively use it now | 19:04 |
| lifeless | shadower: no worries | 19:04 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: ok, so fix released? | 19:04 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: yep | 19:04 |
| bnemec | For tripleo it's probably invalid, since it was a legitimate bug in heat. | 19:05 |
| lifeless | shadower: btw in https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1244202 you mark it triaged with unknown importance - could you also please set an importance when triaging ? | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | bnemec: 6/1 1/2 of the other | 19:05 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 19:05 |
| shadower | lifeless: oh sorry, will do | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | ok so *thank you everyone!* | 19:06 |
| lifeless | we have no untriaged bugs | 19:06 |
| lifeless | that means every user issue reported has had at least minimal eyeballs | 19:06 |
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| rushiagr2 | Hi all! | 19:07 |
| lifeless | and ones that seem big marked high/critical. Good stuff | 19:07 |
| lifeless | we have one current critical - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1245852 | 19:07 |
| lifeless | this is a firedrill effectively - whatever it is is breaking overcloud deploys | 19:08 |
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| lifeless | so if you are in the sysadmin team, please gather data on it, if you aren't please see if you can offer any insight/any requests for data to gather | 19:08 |
| rpodolyaka1 | has anyone seen it in devtest runs? (I mean, besides of tripleo-cd cloud) | 19:08 |
| lifeless | sounds like no | 19:09 |
| lifeless | ok, followup-in-#tripleo-or-the-bug | 19:09 |
| lifeless | any additional bug topics? | 19:09 |
| lifeless | #topic reviews | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:10 | |
| lifeless | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:10 |
| lifeless | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:10 |
| lifeless | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:10 |
| lifeless | we've slipped a little | 19:10 |
| lifeless | 19:10 | |
| lifeless | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 (ignoring jenkins): | 19:10 |
| lifeless | Average wait time: 1 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 1rd quartile wait time: 0 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes | 19:11 |
| lifeless | Median wait time: 0 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 1st quartile is fantastic | 19:11 |
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| lifeless | 3rd quartile wait time: 4 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes | 19:11 |
| lifeless | median is ok | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 3rd quartile is sad | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 19:11 | |
| lifeless | Longest waiting reviews (based on latest revision): | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 5 days, 6 hours, 52 minutes https://review.openstack.org/53587 (Add James Slagle to tripleo-cd-admins.) | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 1 days, 5 hours, 27 minutes https://review.openstack.org/54121 (Allow Neutron to schedule networks lazily) | 19:11 |
| lifeless | 0 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes https://review.openstack.org/54347 (Rename heat_watch_server_url to watch_server_url) | 19:11 |
| lifeless | the admins team one now has enough votes, I'll ack that | 19:12 |
| lifeless | whats up with the lazy neutron review? | 19:12 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | it's been actively +1'ed :) | 19:12 |
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| lifeless | yeah | 19:12 |
| lifeless | I'm sure of those +1's have +2 access, no ? | 19:13 |
| lifeless | lsmola: marios: ? | 19:13 |
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| lsmola | lifeless, I haven't try whether it actually works, just code review | 19:13 |
| lifeless | yeah, lots do | 19:13 |
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| marios | lifeless: yeah i was following the "if you're not entirely familiar then just +1 it" | 19:14 |
| lifeless | ok, fair enoug | 19:14 |
| lifeless | *fair enough* | 19:14 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: since i know you're around, care to wrap that one up :) | 19:14 |
| lifeless | still, I'm broadly happy, two outliers does not a systemic problem make. | 19:15 |
| lifeless | Again, thank you all for stepping up | 19:15 |
| lifeless | #topic | 19:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:15 | |
| lifeless | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:15 | |
| lifeless | ng, where is ng | 19:15 |
| lifeless | we may need to come back to this topic | 19:16 |
| lifeless | #topic CD Cloud status | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:16 | |
| lifeless | firstly healthwise | 19:16 |
| lifeless | pretty good except a) the undercloud firmware on it's eth2 keeps crapping out every few days :(. | 19:16 |
| lifeless | And b) just last night ovs-vsctl calls started wedging themselves, and thats make neutron-api unhappy, and thats make nova unhappy | 19:17 |
| lifeless | and -> fail. | 19:17 |
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| lifeless | there is a bug about the specific thing but we may want to file a bug about the cascading failure nature of it too | 19:17 |
| lifeless | I suggest that whoever gets to the bottom of the failure bug make a decision as to whether to file another bug | 19:18 |
| lifeless | Progress wise | 19:18 |
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| lifeless | we've got a patch set up adding ephemeral support for nova | 19:18 |
| lifeless | review 52704 is the top of that | 19:18 |
| lifeless | we've got basic code for using the ephemeral partition in t-i-e but nothing actively exercising it yet | 19:19 |
| lifeless | we haven't started doing db sync more regularly | 19:19 |
| jog0 | t-i-e? | 19:19 |
| lifeless | and we haven't taught rebuild how to preserve the ephemeral partition - but we do seem to have broad acceptance of the idea on openstack-dev | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jog0: tripleo-image-elements | 19:19 |
| lifeless | there will be some minor glue after this teaching our heat templates to use rebuild | 19:20 |
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| lifeless | but we're nearly there I think | 19:20 |
| lifeless | modulo getting stuff landed ;) | 19:20 |
| jog0 | landing stuff will cease up next week | 19:21 |
| lifeless | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:21 | |
| lifeless | pleia2: ^ | 19:21 |
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| pleia2 | so last week I started sorting out some of the networking stuff for setting up the framework for testing | 19:21 |
| pleia2 | fortunately we don't statically mention brbm many places, so this isn't much of a headache (configure-vm will need to be updated) | 19:21 |
| pleia2 | continuing to work through iteration 2, trying to use as much existing tripleo code as possible for it | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-test-cluster | 19:22 |
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| pleia2 | and I nudged infra folks about getting some assistance with gearman, so that should be lined up when I'm ready | 19:22 |
| lifeless | cool | 19:23 |
| lifeless | remember it is a new gearman instance, so if it's deploy stuff you need, ping #tripleo :) | 19:23 |
| lifeless | if it's knowledge, -infra is totally the people to ask | 19:23 |
| pleia2 | right, this is knowledge stuff, I'm pretty weak on gearman still (it's a newish thing for us) | 19:24 |
| lifeless | kk (me too FWIW) | 19:24 |
| lifeless | any more CI virt testing stuff ? | 19:24 |
| pleia2 | that's it | 19:24 |
| lifeless | ok | 19:25 |
| lifeless | so no sign of ng | 19:25 |
| lifeless | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:25 | |
| lifeless | Anyone want to volunteer to pick up the torch of making sure every project with unreleased commits has had a release this week ? | 19:25 |
| lifeless | it would be grand to walk into the summit with no backlog | 19:25 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: I'd like to help, but know nothing about release process :( | 19:26 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: if there is a guide, I could make it | 19:26 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka1: if you're willing to learn, your help will be totally appreciated! | 19:26 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: sure, I'll take it | 19:26 |
| lifeless | cool | 19:27 |
| lifeless | I will look for existing docs and send you + -dev an email later today. | 19:27 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: thanks! | 19:27 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless look for existing docs and send rpodolyaka1 + -dev an email later today on doing releases. | 19:27 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 19:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:28 | |
| rushiagr2 | I am new here, but going to stay for long | 19:30 |
| rushiagr2 | Would keep bothering u guys as i come up to speed with tripleo | 19:30 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: welcome! | 19:30 |
| jcoufal | rushiagr2: welcome on board :) | 19:30 |
| lsmola | rushiagr2, welcome | 19:30 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: what has you interested in tripleo ? | 19:31 |
| rushiagr2 | We are coming up with a huge public cloud, from india | 19:31 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: cool! with soren etc? | 19:32 |
| rushiagr2 | And we are just starting.. So i took up the job to help with ci/cd | 19:32 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: or another one? | 19:32 |
| rushiagr2 | Yes, with soren | 19:32 |
| lifeless | sweet | 19:32 |
| lifeless | How is this meeting time for the european contingent? | 19:33 |
| lifeless | IIRC you just entered daylight savins? | 19:33 |
| lifeless | *savings* | 19:33 |
| jcoufal | yeah, currently it starts at 8pm | 19:34 |
| jcoufal | not big change though, at least for me | 19:34 |
| rushiagr2 | In India it is 00:30 in the morning (night?) | 19:35 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: eep! | 19:35 |
| lifeless | rushiagr2: dedication! | 19:35 |
| rushiagr2 | Forced dedication :-P | 19:36 |
| shadower | lifeless: you wanna keep the meeting bound to UTC or observe some summer/winter time change? | 19:36 |
| lsmola | :-D | 19:36 |
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| * shadower is perfectly happy with UTC, fwiw | 19:36 | |
| * jcoufal is voting for UTC | 19:37 | |
| jomara | shadower: does czech republic do utc or change times? | 19:37 |
| lsmola | UTC is cool | 19:37 |
| shadower | jomara: we've just switched away from DST | 19:37 |
| lifeless | shadower: keeping it to the one time is better if possible. | 19:37 |
| shadower | jomara: just like the US only two weeks earlier | 19:37 |
| jomara | shadower: ah ok, we do sunday | 19:37 |
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| lifeless | shadower: since there are like 4 different DST dates for different countries - at each edge | 19:37 |
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| shadower | lifeless: yeah | 19:37 |
| shadower | fine by me | 19:38 |
| lifeless | Ng: welcome! | 19:38 |
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| lifeless | Ng: rpodolyaka1 is going to take on getting releases done this week | 19:38 |
| lifeless | Ng: could you give him a quick handover email? | 19:38 |
| Ng | sure | 19:38 |
| rpodolyaka1 | Ng: thanks! | 19:38 |
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| Ng | rpodolyaka1: what's your preferred mail address for that? | 19:39 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | Ng: rpodolyaka@mirantis.com | 19:39 |
| lifeless | ok | 19:39 |
| lifeless | so I think we're basically done then. Lets let rushiagr2 get some sleep :) | 19:39 |
| Ng | rpodolyaka1: thanks | 19:39 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 19:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate)" | 19:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 29 19:40:01 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-29-19.01.html | 19:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-29-19.01.txt | 19:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-10-29-19.01.log.html | 19:40 |
| rushiagr2 | Hehe, thanks! :-) | 19:40 |
| rushiagr2 | See u all! | 19:40 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 19:40 |
| lifeless | Oh, I forgot | 19:40 |
| lifeless | no meeting next week. | 19:40 |
| lifeless | (duh) | 19:40 |
| lsmola | good night | 19:40 |
| rushiagr2 | See u all at d summit! | 19:41 |
| shadower | nigt | 19:41 |
| rpodolyaka1 | lifeless: we could have a small one in HK ;) | 19:41 |
| jcoufal | thanks, o/ | 19:41 |
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