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| markwash | o/ | 13:59 |
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| nikhil | o/ | 14:00 |
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| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 29 14:00:51 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| * markwash waits for folks | 14:01 | |
| nikhil | some folks were not sure if the meeting was at 14utc or later | 14:02 |
| nikhil | however, they were communicated (and i hope they realized it) | 14:02 |
| markwash | alas | 14:03 |
| * flaper87 almost forgot about it | 14:03 | |
| markwash | I guess I should set up an automatic reminder | 14:03 |
| nikhil | markwash: until wish to update a bit on the task flow | 14:03 |
| nikhil | we played around with the examples day before | 14:04 |
| nikhil | however, wanted to make sure if we could be able to couple it with glance rightly | 14:04 |
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| markwash | nikhil: how did that go? | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | could not do that yesterday as we needed some input on how the async TaskFactory should look like | 14:04 |
| nikhil | we've a conflict in a way | 14:05 |
| iccha | hey | 14:05 |
| nikhil | the task that is created for import | 14:05 |
| nikhil | need image record before setting the data (ideally) | 14:05 |
| nikhil | so should that be inherited from ImageFactory or what else would be a better option | 14:05 |
| nikhil | ? | 14:06 |
| ameade | \ / | 14:06 |
| ameade | /o\ | 14:06 |
| nikhil | as doing image.setdata and repo.save might look good at that level | 14:06 |
| markwash | nikhil: hmm. . I probably just need to look at the code again | 14:06 |
| nikhil | ok sure | 14:07 |
| ameade | I have some ideas so maybe we can bug you markwash as we push through today | 14:08 |
| markwash | nikhil: it is a bit difficult | 14:08 |
| markwash | in a way, the synchronous script for image import needs access to a whole cross section of the domain | 14:08 |
| markwash | so maybe having it live on Factory or Image itself doesn't quite work. . . | 14:09 |
| ameade | markwash: is that a problem though? could we just have that script use gateway to create the iamge? | 14:09 |
| ameade | just like the api layer would? | 14:09 |
| markwash | ameade: right. if its a script, the problem sort of goes away | 14:09 |
| ameade | k, we can work out the impl as the day goes by then :) | 14:10 |
| nikhil | hmm. taskflow might make it kinda not a script | 14:10 |
| ameade | nikhil: i think even still we could treat it the same way but i'm not sure | 14:10 |
| ameade | and sorry i kinda jumped into the meeting sounding like 'lets not talk about this right now' | 14:11 |
| markwash | I suppose we should take a look at the status of our blueprints | 14:11 |
| markwash | #topic h-3 blueprints | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "h-3 blueprints (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:12 | |
| markwash | everything that's specifically targeted to H3 is in review | 14:12 |
| ameade | wooo, no blockers? | 14:12 |
| markwash | regarding glance-scrubber, I talked to zhiyan earlier this week | 14:12 |
| zhiyan | markwash: TBH, i'm not sure lcoation-status is, sine John like it landing in h also .. | 14:12 |
| markwash | it looks like the code is doing the right thing, but I personally find the scrubber so hard to understand | 14:12 |
| markwash | zhiyan: hey there you are! I couldn't tab-select you before :-) | 14:13 |
| zhiyan | markwash: yes, i have committed a new version, it using the way which we talked yesterday (my tz) | 14:13 |
| zhiyan | sorry, i'm little late :) | 14:13 |
| markwash | zhiyan: great, so another review is in order | 14:13 |
| zhiyan | thanks. | 14:14 |
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| markwash | looks like this is not blocked | 14:14 |
| zhiyan | markwash: btw, and i'm not sure this is also in your/team list : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43899/ | 14:14 |
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| zhiyan | markwash: a separated patch from location-status. and i consider it will resolve some defect which live in multi-location situation ... | 14:15 |
| markwash | zhiyan: looks important, can you target it to a (possibly new) bug? | 14:15 |
| zhiyan | markwash: i mean registry v1 api | 14:15 |
| markwash | and target that bug to h-3? | 14:15 |
| zhiyan | markwash: ok....but you really think a bug record is important :) currently it be traced by location-status bp | 14:16 |
| markwash | zhiyan: yes, please :-) | 14:16 |
| markwash | it doesn't really feel like part of location-status. . is it? | 14:17 |
| zhiyan | markwash: sure thing. btw for the defect also pls team give some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42896/ . ok back to bp | 14:17 |
| zhiyan | markwash: yes i think it is | 14:17 |
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| markwash | zhiyan: hmm. . well I wanna get this right for priority purposes. . is it a bug right now that we aren't encrypting multiple locations, only the first location? or does that bug only come in based on other location/status changes? | 14:18 |
| zhiyan | markwash: do you like talk about location-status change ? if you had checked it.. | 14:19 |
| markwash | zhiyan: not just yet | 14:20 |
| zhiyan | markwash: for bug, yes it is. it not only for location-status, it's for any multi-location situation | 14:20 |
| markwash | okay cool | 14:20 |
| zhiyan | ok, i'm sure John like it. but seems he is not here yet ... | 14:20 |
| markwash | so another bp in the crosshairs is jbresnah's quota bp | 14:20 |
| markwash | this was looking pretty great yesterday when I checked, looks like it will go in very soon | 14:21 |
| markwash | and the other bp I wanna check in on is iccha's protected properties | 14:21 |
| iccha | i appreciate the feedback received on bp so far | 14:21 |
| iccha | hemanth: and me will be working on addresseing comments and pushing up patches today | 14:21 |
| iccha | also markwash on the side what name would u prefer instead od owner_specified :) | 14:22 |
| markwash | iccha: hmm | 14:22 |
| iccha | btw markwash bourke is working on v1 side of things | 14:22 |
| markwash | iccha: we could even use something as short as "x_" | 14:23 |
| markwash | I'm a little nervous about the v1 side. . does it make sense to make this kind of change to the v1 api? | 14:24 |
| ameade | markwash: no it doesn't :P | 14:24 |
| * markwash had always imagined this as a v2 only kind of deal | 14:24 | |
| bourke | Hi | 14:24 |
| markwash | though the dissonance hadn't occured to me before | 14:24 |
| bourke | One concern I had around adding this to v1 is there's no way of querying the protected props (i.e. as there is with the json schemas in v2) | 14:25 |
| markwash | iccha (or even "x_owner_" or "x_user_") | 14:25 |
| bourke | so if a user adds a mix of protected / non protected they may be confused as to the protected ones aren't appearing | 14:25 |
| iccha | markwash: sounds good | 14:25 |
| markwash | bourke: hmm yeah its a bit difficult | 14:26 |
| bourke | s/as to/as to why/ | 14:27 |
| ameade | can I ask what the motivation for adding it to v1 is? | 14:27 |
| iccha | some companies still use v1 i guess | 14:27 |
| zhiyan | iccha: +1 like some product/team in ours | 14:28 |
| ameade | that's what should change, IMHO | 14:28 |
| ameade | i'm not sure what the difficulties of switching are though | 14:28 |
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| markwash | it makes sense that people still use v1, but. . . it feels like a violation of the v1 contract | 14:28 |
| markwash | . . this might explain some of the back and forth with smclaren earlier | 14:29 |
| ameade | i'm thinking that and it could be unecessary work/focusing on the wrong problem | 14:29 |
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| ameade | sorry i'm being really opinionated atm | 14:29 |
| ameade | jacked up on coffee | 14:29 |
| markwash | haha | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | the protected props are entirely optional, we decided months ago that the cloud provider would communicate policy | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | since it is so configurable | 14:30 |
| markwash | rosmaita: I suppose that would cover it | 14:30 |
| markwash | thanks | 14:31 |
| markwash | the close links between v1 and v2 make these funny situations | 14:32 |
| iccha | zhiyan: bourke is there any plan to switch to v2? | 14:32 |
| iccha | what are the blockers for the switch? | 14:32 |
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| bourke | iccha: not that I'm aware of for the near future unfortunately | 14:32 |
| bourke | I think stuart could give better input on that but he's tied up atm | 14:32 |
| iccha | i kinda agree with ameade , we cant keep back porting features to previous versions | 14:32 |
| iccha | but if there is a real problem on the switching we should be working on that | 14:33 |
| zhiyan | iccha: i'm ok for that. i don't like it break v1 spec TBH | 14:33 |
| markwash | one issue I'm worried about here is | 14:33 |
| iccha | one of the issues esheffield has been looking at nova using glance v2 | 14:33 |
| markwash | the "default" for v2 is to not allow any old property to be added | 14:34 |
| iccha | go for it markwash | 14:34 |
| markwash | you have to actually configure it to be that permissive in your schema | 14:34 |
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| markwash | and prot props is taking that as the given with its default config, I believe iiuc | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | iiuc == ? | 14:34 |
| markwash | adding an exception for the whole namespace of "^owner_specified.*" or whatever we settle on | 14:35 |
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| markwash | if i understand correctly | 14:35 |
| iccha | markwash: if that soemthing we convey in documentation? | 14:35 |
| iccha | and check for the config is additionalproperties allowed | 14:36 |
| markwash | iccha: will the v1 changes make it so that arbitrary properties are generally disallowed? | 14:36 |
| iccha | btw the namespace can be deployer specific since its only a config value | 14:36 |
| markwash | iccha: agreed, but I don't want the default config values to break existing v1 deployments | 14:37 |
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| markwash | *existing v1 default deployments | 14:37 |
| markwash | maybe we have to make turning on property protections in v1 optional | 14:37 |
| markwash | bourke: ^^ does that make sense? | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | markwash: are yo usaying that protected props should be independently configurable for v1 and v2 | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i.e., someone could want them on in v2 but off in v1? | 14:38 |
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| bourke | markwash: yes off by default sounds reasonable to me | 14:39 |
| markwash | rosmaita: we might be forced to support that. . the whole idea of restricting properties is kind of v2-only at this point | 14:39 |
| esheffield | that sounds - kinda terrible | 14:39 |
| iccha | hmm so are we assuming that there might be deployments which use both versdions? | 14:39 |
| iccha | and it would be enabled in one and disabled in other? | 14:39 |
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| iccha | so bottom line do we want it in v1 or not? | 14:40 |
| esheffield | you really don't want a situation where you can use one version to break the protections of the other | 14:40 |
| iccha | markwash: bourke mclaren ^ | 14:40 |
| mclaren | iccha: we want it in v1 | 14:40 |
| markwash | esheffield: in effect that is what we have right now | 14:40 |
| markwash | before prop protections are added | 14:40 |
| mclaren | iccha: and Paul is writing the code. | 14:41 |
| markwash | I am allowed to add anything I want to v1, but v2 would stop me | 14:41 |
| markwash | with the default config | 14:41 |
| mclaren | Apologies, I was late to the party...what's the issue with v1 support? | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | markwash is afraid it could break v1 contract | 14:41 |
| mclaren | In which sense? | 14:42 |
| markwash | by default, in v1 I can add anything today | 14:42 |
| markwash | by default, in v2, I can't add arbitrary properties | 14:42 |
| mclaren | oh ok, yeah I raised that | 14:42 |
| markwash | so protected properties relaxes v2 | 14:42 |
| markwash | but constrains v1 | 14:42 |
| mclaren | and you said we should trawl through existing properties to ensure there was no conflict if I remember? | 14:43 |
| markwash | I think we just have to make sure that we don't have a default config that is too restrictive for v1 | 14:44 |
| zhiyan | mclaren: but this may break existing spec.. | 14:44 |
| markwash | hence the possible need for different configs for v1 and v2 behavior | 14:44 |
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| markwash | ugh this is a bright red flag :-( | 14:45 |
| mclaren | I'm fine on however we do it, but kinda need it for v1 | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | mclaren has a point we agreed long ago that it would be in v1 | 14:46 |
| ameade | mclaren: why do you need it in v1? | 14:46 |
| markwash | iccha: maybe by default property protections should not change the namespaces at all by default | 14:46 |
| markwash | by default | 14:46 |
| mclaren | ameade: hpcloud.com? | 14:46 |
| markwash | (had to say it one more time) | 14:46 |
| iccha | mclaren: we can set whatever u want default config to be | 14:46 |
| iccha | markwash: i mean | 14:47 |
| mclaren | I'm fine with any config file contortions | 14:47 |
| iccha | its just a config file and the deployer can make it as restrictive or relaxed. by default if protecty propetection config is not turned on it behaves like like nothing pp excists | 14:47 |
| iccha | all properties allowed | 14:47 |
| markwash | I think if we just configure it off by default, we're good for now | 14:48 |
| markwash | okay | 14:48 |
| iccha | markwash: what are ur concerns exactly? having it v1 ? or its effects if implemented in v1? | 14:48 |
| markwash | I'm worried about the default settings breaking the v1 api backwards compatibilty | 14:48 |
| markwash | so, in other bp news | 14:49 |
| iccha | the default setting is pp is off and system behaves like nothing ever was implemented. | 14:49 |
| markwash | okay cool | 14:50 |
| mclaren | ok, thanks folks :-) | 14:50 |
| markwash | rosmaita: nikhil: it sounds like you guys are getting close to having all of import ready for review in H3, does that sound right? | 14:50 |
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| rosmaita | markwash: so can we summarize the decision about pp? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | (meaning can u summarize your understanding) | 14:51 |
| markwash | rosmaita: sure. . . something to the tune of "we will ensure that all property protections are off by default to avoid breaking compatibility with the default configuration of the v1 and v2 apis" | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | markwash: and it is cool that if you configure pp, it will affect both v1 and v2 ? | 14:52 |
| markwash | keep in mind that distros may view stuff in upstream etc/ as defaults | 14:52 |
| markwash | rosmaita: it is meh (tolerable). . we need to put big warnings in the config file that changes to that can break backwards compatibliilty, especially easily with v1 | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i'm unclear about hte backwards compat break | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | isn't this like changing the settting for # metadata items on an image? | 14:53 |
| nikhil | markwash: yeah, so once we've a good understanding of the cross section, we can update flwang about it | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i mean the value | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | maybe i should just shut up and we will move on | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | i will make sure docs are explicit | 14:54 |
| nikhil | and hoping to get feedback on the existing patches so that they do not block the rest (basically, there is a linear dependency of the patches now) | 14:54 |
| markwash | rosmaita: right now I can add anything I want to a v1 image, but the prot props config in glance/etc only wants me to be able to add anything I want if it is prefixed with owner_specified_ | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | only if you configure it that way | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | i will shut up | 14:55 |
| markwash | rosmaita: it looked to me like the config in glance/etc had it configured that way | 14:55 |
| markwash | but that config is supposed to reflect the default behavior | 14:55 |
| bourke | markwash: the default property_protection.conf option in glance-api.conf is commented out though | 14:55 |
| iccha | bourke: +1 | 14:55 |
| bourke | which in my mind equals off by default? | 14:55 |
| markwash | commented out means "this is the default, so you don't need to set it" | 14:55 |
| markwash | for example, if the default quota is 0 (unlimited) the config will say | 14:56 |
| markwash | # This is your image quota | 14:56 |
| markwash | #image_quota = 0 | 14:56 |
| iccha | markwash: the file doesnt exist by default in code base | 14:56 |
| bourke | I think any operator worth their salt would check the docs before uncommenting :) | 14:56 |
| iccha | property-protections.conf | 14:56 |
| iccha | maybe should make non as explicitly defaul | 14:56 |
| markwash | if you want it off by default it should say | 14:56 |
| markwash | #property-protections-conf-file = | 14:56 |
| markwash | (empty) | 14:56 |
| markwash | and the one that's in etc should be suffixed with ".sample" | 14:57 |
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| markwash | so maybe we just need to make that change | 14:57 |
| iccha | ok sounds good. we can move on to other topics now i guess :) | 14:57 |
| markwash | #topic open discussion! | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | and venkatesh's patch can probably abandoned once all the changes are incorporated | 14:58 |
| markwash | :-) | 14:58 |
| nikhil | (sorry there were 3 comments in between that pp discussion wind up) | 14:58 |
| markwash | nikhil: okay, thanks for the update | 14:58 |
| nikhil | or rather 2 in between and the one above | 14:58 |
| markwash | haha | 14:58 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:58 |
| zhiyan | markwash: FFE list? | 14:59 |
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| markwash | currently empty with the hopes of staying that way | 14:59 |
| markwash | thanks to everybody for these last minute pushes | 14:59 |
| markwash | this is the last week before we have to stop adding new features | 14:59 |
| zhiyan | markwash: ok, so need you help review on scrubber-refactoring ... | 15:00 |
| markwash | absolutely I do | 15:00 |
| nikhil | thanks for the input markwash , ameade and I will work on this a bit ore today | 15:00 |
| zhiyan | markwash: thanks again | 15:00 |
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| iccha | thanks for quick reviews folks | 15:00 |
| iccha | that helps the pushing faster :p | 15:00 |
| zhiyan | thank you iccha :) | 15:00 |
| markwash | I think its time to make way | 15:00 |
| nikhil | push -f | 15:00 |
| markwash | (or maybe nobody is following us, can't remember) | 15:01 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 29 15:01:06 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-29-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-29-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2013/glance.2013-08-29-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| zhiyan | thank you all! | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 29 15:01:52 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:02 |
| vasiliy | hello | 15:02 |
| vbellur | hello | 15:02 |
| vikiland | hi | 15:02 |
| yportnova | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaMeetings | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic introductions | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "introductions (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
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| bswartz | We have some developers to help with the project finally | 15:03 |
| vbellur | bswartz: sounds great! | 15:04 |
| dineshs | bswartz: great | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | NetApp has engaged Mirantis to help with development and testing on an ongoing basis while we try to hire some fulltime engineers | 15:04 |
| bswartz | yportnova will be helping us with feature development | 15:05 |
| vbellur | yportnova: welcome aboard! | 15:05 |
| yportnova | vbellur: thanks | 15:05 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov will be helping us with test development | 15:06 |
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| esker | !Hola! | 15:07 |
| openstack | esker: Error: "Hola!" is not a valid command. | 15:07 |
| vbellur | vponomaryov: good to have you here! | 15:07 |
| bswartz | They will be starting workikng immediately | 15:07 |
| bswartz | we'll get to blueprints in a minute | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | lpabon: are you here? | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | vbellur: do you have a date when lpabon will be available to contribute as well? | 15:08 |
| vbellur | bswartz: I am hoping that he would available in 2 weeks from now. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:10 |
| bswartz | any other new faces here to introduce? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic blueprints | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| bswartz | okay so we'll start working on the blueprints then | 15:11 |
| vbellur | bswartz: ok, the existing ones? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/remove-blocks | 15:12 |
| bswartz | that's the one we're going to start with | 15:12 |
| vbellur | ok | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | yportnova: have you had much time to take a look at the code? | 15:13 |
| yportnova | bswartz: sure I have | 15:13 |
| bswartz | yportnova: please assign yourself that blueprint and let us know when you have a time estimate for how long it will take | 15:13 |
| yportnova | bswartz: ok | 15:14 |
| bswartz | I've been trying to get more blueprints into LP and organizing the series/milestones | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | and again, our goal is to be in stackforge and to be usable as a standalone project by the havana release date | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | vbellur: don't be afraid to file blueprints of your own, and that goes for others at RedHat | 15:16 |
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| yportnova | bswartz: where do we plan to be in stackforge? | 15:16 |
| vbellur | bswartz: sure, will do. been on my todo for a while. | 15:16 |
| bswartz | most of the feature work will have to wait until icehouse, but it would be nice to have ideas captured before the conference | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | yportnova: we need to complete the first 2 blueprints: remove-blocks and rename-cinder-to-manila | 15:17 |
| bswartz | after those we can rehost the code in stackforge | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | we also need to test the resulting code and make sure we didnt' break anything during the refactoring | 15:17 |
| vasiliy | bswartz: when will we be able to use launchpad? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | I haven't mentioned this before but we did write some tempest tests code the cinder-share service, and those need to be ported over to work with manila as well | 15:18 |
| bswartz | I'm hoping that vponomaryov can help with that work | 15:18 |
| bswartz | vasiliy: the LP should be usable now | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | of course, will do | 15:19 |
| bswartz | if you need invitations to the project, contact me or esker | 15:19 |
| bswartz | I actually don't know if LP requires you to be a member of the project in order to do things like register blueprints or assign them to yourself | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I'm learning how to administer the LP project as we go | 15:20 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:21 |
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| yportnova | bswartz: I cannot assign that bp to me | 15:21 |
| bswartz | yportnova: you'll need to tell me your LP username | 15:21 |
| bswartz | it's probably because I registered the BP, I have to assign it | 15:22 |
| yportnova | bswartz: the same as here | 15:22 |
| bswartz | thanks | 15:22 |
| bswartz | any other topic anyone wants to discuss today? | 15:22 |
| vbellur | nothing from me | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: who should I contact to, to get mentioned tempest tests code? | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: I will dig it up -- I forgot to put it up on github prior to this meeting | 15:23 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov, yportnova: there is also python-cinderclient code that needs to redone as python-manilaclient which I haven't put online yet | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | I'll send out links when I've done that | 15:24 |
| yportnova | bswartz: I will start implementing bp right now. Where should I submit the code? How can I access the repo? | 15:25 |
| vasiliy | bswartz: will we use Gerrit? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | yportnova: I will give you access to the github repo | 15:25 |
| bswartz | vasily: after we've moved the code to stackforge we will start using gerrit for submissions | 15:26 |
| bswartz | vasily: as long as it's in github we can't take advantage of the gerrit infrastructure | 15:26 |
| bswartz | the sooner all this happens the better | 15:26 |
| yportnova | bswartz: thanks | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay if nobody has anything else we can close this meeting | 15:27 |
| dineshs | bswartz: has there been closure on the design of securely connecting backend/frontend networks? | 15:27 |
| vasiliy | bswartz: thanks - all is clear | 15:27 |
| yportnova | just one question | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I'll be in #openstack-manila to answer more questions if you have them | 15:27 |
| bswartz | dineshs: hello! | 15:27 |
| vikiland | bswartz: integration with nova, horizon would be done after havana release ? | 15:27 |
| esker | Looking forward to getting going atop Stackforge... pace will undoubtedly quicken thereafter | 15:28 |
| dineshs | bswartz: also wondering if these design issues are being captured somewhere... | 15:28 |
| bswartz | dineshs: no that will be a design summit discussion -- it's a top priority for ice hose | 15:28 |
| bswartz | icehouse* | 15:28 |
| dineshs | bswartz: okay.. cool | 15:28 |
| esker | What is this ice hose you refer to? | 15:28 |
| vbellur | later everyone | 15:28 |
| esker | ;-) | 15:28 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 29 15:28:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-08-29-15.01.html | 15:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | savanna weekly team meeting will be here in 10 minutes | 17:57 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | savanna folks, are you here? :) | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 18:05 |
| dmitryme | yep | 18:05 |
| akuznetsov | Hi | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | I'm here | 18:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ok, I think we should start | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting savanna | 18:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 29 18:07:15 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Agenda | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info News / updates | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Action items from the last meeting | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Moving elements to the separated repo | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:07 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Moving hadoop-swifthcfs to the separated repo | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info EDP discussions | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info General discussion | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:07 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm on vacation at this week, so, asking for help with news and updates | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info all savanna projects has been migrated to the pbr successfully | 18:08 |
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| akuznetsov | EDP update | 18:09 |
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| nadya | regarding edp, we've merged first UI part, thanks crobertsrh | 18:09 |
| akuznetsov | now we can schedule job to the transient cluster that is not active state | 18:09 |
| crobertsrh | I've been continuing work on the UI. Currently working out job executions. I hope to have something sometime around the middle of next week (Monday is a holiday for me) | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info merged first EDP-related UI part (thanks crobertsrh) | 18:10 |
| akuznetsov | the cluster shutdown will be ready for review early in the next week | 18:10 |
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| akuznetsov | now we can schedule to cluster pig and jar jobs, and hive on it way | 18:11 |
| nadya | today I began working on job configuration. main part is ready, writing UT. let me find a link to a new bp | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info we're near to finish work on the 0.2.2 release (thanks HDP folks) | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sounds great | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any other thoughts? | 18:13 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/edp-job-configs-params | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok, let's move on | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap cleanup / update (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:15 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | do we need to update/add smth? | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | nothing from my side | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:15 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | we have 4 | 18:15 |
| rnirmal | I still haven't gotten around to kickstarting the v2.0 API discussion. Hopefully I'll have it done this week | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info ACTION: rnirmal to start thread in ML to discuss REST API improvements [WIP] | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info ACTION: tmckay to create an issue about incorrect handling of "duplicate" errors [DONE] | 18:16 |
| tmckay | Is there a # for done? I forget | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1217983 | 18:16 |
| tmckay | ah, thanks | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | no, just adding info points | 18:17 |
| * tmckay just got back from the dentist | 18:17 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info ACTION: aignatov to create an issue about lack of the validation while starting job (check for Oozie before it) | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, how are you? | 18:17 |
| tmckay | :) good, with clean teeth | 18:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | aignatov is on vacation now, so, I hope he'll do it after vacation | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hat's all aboud action items from the last meeting | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Moving elements to the separated repo | 18:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Moving elements to the separated repo (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:18 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf proposed to extract some subcomponents from savanna-extra repo | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's vote for extracting elements to the savanna-image-elements repo | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it'll provide us to package them, write tests that could be ruined in the gate and etc. | 18:20 |
| ruhe_ | ruined -> runned -> ran ? | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | autocompletion + autocorrection | 18:21 |
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| ruhe_ | :) | 18:21 |
| tmckay | I wondered about that. ruined tests sounds like catastrophic failure testing ;-) | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startvote nova elements from savanna-extra to savanna-image-elements repo? Yes, No | 18:21 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: nova elements from savanna-extra to savanna-image-elements repo? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 18:21 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | s/nova/move/ | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | one more autocomplete | 18:22 |
| rnirmal | #vote yes | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #vote yes | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | +1 positive vote from mattf | 18:23 |
| jmaron | #vote yes | 18:23 |
| dmitryme | abstain | 18:23 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #vote yes | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 30 more seconds | 18:24 |
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| ruhe_ | #vote Yes | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endvote | 18:25 |
| openstack | Voted on "nova elements from savanna-extra to savanna-image-elements repo?" Results are | 18:25 |
| openstack | Yes (5): ruhe_, NikitaKonovalov, rnirmal, jmaron, SergeyLukjanov | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info let's do it | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action slukjanov to nova elements to the savanna-image-elements | 18:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | don't know why my mac likes to replace move to nova so much | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Moving hadoop-swifthcfs to the separated repo | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:26 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x3123ed0> | 18:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Moving hadoop-swifthcfs to the separated repo | 18:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Moving hadoop-swifthcfs to the separated repo (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:26 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | the same proc | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but currently we're only moving code to the repo | 18:27 |
| ruhe_ | what are the pros for doing this? | 18:27 |
| rnirmal | yeah don't think we need to do that... hopefully the patch will get merged in sooner than later | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ruhe_, no ideas about additional pros | 18:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | looks like a temporarily code storage | 18:29 |
| rnirmal | and we don't have to maintain that code at all | 18:29 |
| rnirmal | savanna-extra seems like a good place for that temp storage | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | may be we'll need to have some patchs | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | rnirmal, agreed | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startvote move hadoop-swifthcfs from savanna-extra to hadoop-swifthcfs repo? Yes, No, Abstain | 18:29 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: move hadoop-swifthcfs from savanna-extra to hadoop-swifthcfs repo? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. | 18:29 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #vote No | 18:29 |
| ruhe_ | #vote No | 18:29 |
| rnirmal | #vote no | 18:29 |
| nadya | #vote No | 18:29 |
| jmaron | #vote abstain | 18:29 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #vote Abstain | 18:30 |
| dmitryme | #vote abstain | 18:30 |
| akuznetsov | #vote abstain | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 30 more seconds | 18:31 |
| tmckay | #vote abstain | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endvote | 18:32 |
| openstack | Voted on "move hadoop-swifthcfs from savanna-extra to hadoop-swifthcfs repo?" Results are | 18:32 |
| openstack | Abstain (4): NikitaKonovalov, jmaron, dmitryme, tmckay | 18:32 |
| openstack | No (4): ruhe_, rnirmal, SergeyLukjanov, nadya | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info let's leave it in savanna-extra repo | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic EDP discussions | 18:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "EDP discussions (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:33 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | edp folks, please | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any questions to discuss? | 18:33 |
| tmckay | minor issue, maybe for an action item. I found that in plugins/general and plugins/hdp I think SavannaException messages are not being overloaded correctly | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it looks like we have a great communication inside the team and we can remove the EDP discussion point from the agenda | 18:34 |
| tmckay | I can add Launchpad bugs. | 18:34 |
| jmaron | I noticed the same during some unit testing | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yep | 18:34 |
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| akuznetsov | yes what we should do if user what a delate job, do we need to delate all related job execution or just put null in job_id in job execution object? | 18:34 |
| jmaron | it'd be good to identify the appropriate mechanism for overloading (followed existing examples) | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action tmckay to create issues for "plugins/general and plugins/hdp I think SavannaException messages are not being overloaded correctly" | 18:35 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | btw we need to cleanup exception mechanism | 18:35 |
| tmckay | jmaron, I did too, but I grabbed the wrong one :) | 18:35 |
| tmckay | Then I hunted them all down.... | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's move on to the general discussion | 18:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic General discussion | 18:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General discussion (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:36 | |
| tmckay | Also, I think we are at the point where we can hook up JobManager, JobOrigin, and JobBinary | 18:36 |
| jmaron | apparently I grabbed the wrong one as well… | 18:36 |
| tmckay | jmaron, it is a little strange, imho. You end up with an object that has "message" and "api_message" and in the "correct" Savanna usage they end up being set to the same value. | 18:37 |
| tmckay | I know, move to #savanna | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | akuznetsov, it looks like we can have an option to set the behavior | 18:38 |
| nadya | interesting question about deletion. I have one more. will we let user change JobExecution and see the history of job running | 18:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | any other questions? | 18:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 1 more min | 18:43 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ok, let's end the meeting | 18:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you! | 18:45 |
| ruhe_ | thanks, bye | 18:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions | 18:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 29 18:45:40 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-29-18.07.html | 18:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-29-18.07.txt | 18:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-08-29-18.07.log.html | 18:45 |
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