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| kgriffs | hey folks | 19:05 |
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| kgriffs | ready to start the marconi mtg? | 19:05 |
| malini | yeap | 19:05 |
| kgriffs | just a sec - let me nudge oz_akan | 19:05 |
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| kgriffs | waiting on Oz - he should be here shortly | 19:06 |
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| kgriffs | excellent | 19:07 |
| kgriffs | let's get this party started | 19:07 |
| kgriffs | #startmeeting marconi | 19:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 9 19:07:27 2013 UTC. The chair is kgriffs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'marconi' | 19:07 |
| kgriffs | #topic system testing | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "system testing (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:07 | |
| kgriffs | malini: can you give us an update? | 19:07 |
| oz_akan | hi all | 19:08 |
| malini | sure.. | 19:08 |
| malini | I am working on getting us set up with a comprehensive set of system tests | 19:08 |
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| kgriffs | how far along are you? | 19:09 |
| malini | I am working on getting the patch updated to get through Jenkins | 19:09 |
| malini | The initial set of tests will cover all our functionalities | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | OK, I saw that you submitted a second patch - you may want to withdraw it and then rebase and squash that into the first one | 19:10 |
| malini | ok | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | do those patches cover all functionality already? | 19:10 |
| malini | yes, but it can certainly use more enhancement | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | OK, so sounds like we'll have a good baseline once that's merged | 19:11 |
| malini | & cover a larger set of scenarios. | 19:11 |
| malini | Right now it covers all the basic functionalities | 19:11 |
| kgriffs | got it | 19:11 |
| malini | We also need to have the bugs fixed to turn those tests green | 19:12 |
| malini | So we are doing TDD ;) | 19:12 |
| kgriffs | he | 19:12 |
| kgriffs | heh | 19:12 |
| kgriffs | OK, so you got those bugs created. | 19:12 |
| * kgriffs looks | 19:12 | |
| malini | yes | 19:12 |
| malini | we also need the auth & non ASCII queue names etc. addressed | 19:13 |
| kgriffs | are those just in launchpad? I'm not seeing Trello cards at first glance | 19:13 |
| malini | oops..I missed the trello part | 19:13 |
| malini | I'll add those | 19:13 |
| kgriffs | OK. Just add directly to "To Do" with a RED label | 19:13 |
| malini | abt the "auth & non ASCII queue names etc.", I havent added any yet.What's our plan on that ? | 19:13 |
| malini | auth —> its currently turned off | 19:14 |
| kgriffs | when you mean we need them addressed, you mean there are no tests for them? | 19:15 |
| malini | we have tests..But Auth is currently turned off in Marconi | 19:15 |
| kgriffs | oic | 19:15 |
| kgriffs | well, is that blocked by setting up the QA environment? | 19:16 |
| malini | probably yes | 19:16 |
| malini | will add a card in Trllo to follow up on tht | 19:17 |
| kgriffs | OK | 19:17 |
| kgriffs | anything else on the topic? | 19:17 |
| malini | no | 19:17 |
| kgriffs | #action malini will follow up on enabling auth in the system tests | 19:18 |
| kgriffs | #action malini will add cards corresponding to bugs | 19:19 |
| kgriffs | oz_akan: questions/thoughts re the QA environment? | 19:19 |
| kgriffs | #topic QA Environment | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QA Environment (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:19 | |
| oz_akan | I have been working on scripting the creation of QA environment | 19:20 |
| kgriffs | excellent. how soon do you think we'll have that stood up? | 19:20 |
| oz_akan | it has be easy to create environments in order to be able to benchmark different sethps | 19:21 |
| oz_akan | creating the initial setup takes a bit of time, but I think I am done with that already. I am trying to deliver it by mid next week | 19:21 |
| kgriffs | w00t! | 19:22 |
| kgriffs | nice work | 19:22 |
| kgriffs | OK, I'll mark that as "good progress" | 19:23 |
| kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/qa-cluster | 19:23 |
| oz_akan | yes, blueprints wait my attention | 19:23 |
| kgriffs | cool. anything else on that topic before we move on? | 19:24 |
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| oz_akan | I am going to update them along the initial system creation | 19:24 |
| kgriffs | ok, so you'll spec out how everything is configured and such? | 19:24 |
| oz_akan | in a week or so, we may publish configurations | 19:24 |
| oz_akan | yes | 19:24 |
| kgriffs | perfect | 19:24 |
| kgriffs | sounds like a plan | 19:24 |
| kgriffs | #action oz_akan to finish building out the QA environment and document it | 19:25 |
| kgriffs | #topic performance test | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "performance test (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:25 | |
| kgriffs | malini: are you far enough along to start getting an idea of how many load generators we will need? | 19:25 |
| malini | I am still in the process of writing the test scripts | 19:26 |
| kgriffs | OK | 19:26 |
| malini | I'll have a better of idea of how many load generators we'll need once we can start pointing to the QA env | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | are we still evaluating JMeter? | 19:27 |
| malini | I hope to have that by next week | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | also, what did you think about that python one? | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | OK, | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | let me ad a depend | 19:27 |
| malini | I am not looking at Jmeter now | 19:27 |
| malini | tsung s can generate more load per machine | 19:28 |
| malini | So I am still sticking with tsung | 19:28 |
| malini | I am alos looking at the tempest stress tests to see if we can use that | 19:28 |
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| malini | But so far, its tsung | 19:28 |
| kgriffs | ok, groovy | 19:29 |
| kgriffs | so, during this next week you will be fleshing out the perf tests? | 19:29 |
| malini | yes | 19:30 |
| malini | & also get the baseline system tests into our repo | 19:30 |
| kgriffs | #action malini to get baseline system tests merged | 19:30 |
| kgriffs | #action malini will complete baseline performance tests this week | 19:30 |
| kgriffs | ok, anything else on that topic? | 19:31 |
| kgriffs | #topic triage blueprints for H1, H2 | 19:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "triage blueprints for H1, H2 (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:32 | |
| kgriffs | so, next I'd like to take a few minutes to do a rough prioritization of the existing blueprints and add any that are missing | 19:32 |
| kgriffs | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi | 19:33 |
| kgriffs | So, let's go down the list. I've sorted my view by the current priority order | 19:34 |
| kgriffs | #topic bp/config-module | 19:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/config-module (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:34 | |
| kgriffs | should be self-explanatory, and I think stays at essential. | 19:34 |
| kgriffs | questions/comments? | 19:35 |
| oz_akan | I don't | 19:35 |
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| kgriffs | #topic bp/input-validation | 19:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/input-validation (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:35 | |
| kgriffs | since this is security 101, I think it is also essential | 19:36 |
| kgriffs | my plan was to create a proxy storage driver that does this | 19:36 |
| kgriffs | that way, no matter what transport or storage driver is used, you get the same validation | 19:37 |
| kgriffs | I'll just keep going - stop me if you have a question/comment/concern | 19:38 |
| kgriffs | #topic bp/storage-base | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/storage-base (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:38 | |
| kgriffs | this guy is pretty much done, we just need a final sanity check | 19:39 |
| kgriffs | same with reference storage | 19:39 |
| oz_akan | does encrypting queues fall under this? | 19:40 |
| kgriffs | in my mind, I'm thinking that "Essential" means "the bare minimum to do a demo" | 19:40 |
| kgriffs | oz_akan: I had that under isolate-tenant-data | 19:40 |
| oz_akan | ok | 19:41 |
| kgriffs | we'll get there in a minute | 19:41 |
| kgriffs | so, for my "demo" criteria, I guess I should demote system-tests to "High" | 19:41 |
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| malini | ok | 19:41 |
| kgriffs | High means we still plan to do it for our first release | 19:41 |
| kgriffs | #topic bp/system-tests | 19:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/system-tests (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:43 | |
| kgriffs | so, we touched on this earlier | 19:43 |
| kgriffs | I am going to set priority to High | 19:43 |
| kgriffs | malini: once it get's merged you can update the status on that bp | 19:43 |
| malini | I will | 19:43 |
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| kgriffs | #topic bp/transport-* | 19:44 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/transport-* (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:44 | |
| kgriffs | so, these guys are mostly done. Just need to fix a few bugs and handle some edge cases. | 19:44 |
| kgriffs | they stay at high since they act as our "Reference" transport driver | 19:44 |
| kgriffs | same goes for the API def | 19:44 |
| kgriffs | speaking of which, we need to lock down the API soon | 19:45 |
| kgriffs | so anyone with a concern please let me or flaper87 know ASAP! | 19:45 |
| kgriffs | I'm sure there will be some tweaking over the next 6 weeks or so, but we need to stabilize the API. | 19:46 |
| kgriffs | #topic message-pagination | 19:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "message-pagination (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:46 | |
| kgriffs | so, this one has a basic implementation | 19:46 |
| kgriffs | but it has a few issues; race conditions not handled, FIFO not guaranteed for a single producer | 19:46 |
| kgriffs | (let me update the status) | 19:47 |
| kgriffs | Is everyone OK with the proposal to guarantee FIFO for a single producer to a given queue? | 19:47 |
| oz_akan | #agree | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | #agreed guarantee FIFO only for a single producer to a single queue | 19:48 |
| kgriffs | the second part of this is making client libs a little smarter so they can detect a skipped message and ask for it before returning the final set to the caller. | 19:49 |
| kgriffs | (this possibility is a result of the way FIFO will be implemented - has to use a side counter, which introduces a race condition for observer clients) | 19:49 |
| kgriffs | Anyone thought of a red flag in doing this? | 19:50 |
| kgriffs | #agreed deal with side-counter race condition in the client | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/marconi-fifo | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | error codes can go to "high" | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | #topic error-codes | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/error-codes | 19:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "error-codes (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:52 | |
| kgriffs | actually, maybe make those a medium | 19:52 |
| kgriffs | so, these are internal codes, like "M742 | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | " | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | language-independent, and transport-independent | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | it was a suggestion brought up at the summit, and I thought it was a good idea | 19:53 |
| kgriffs | but, not a huge priority right now, so I'd say medium, H2 | 19:54 |
| kgriffs | sound good? | 19:54 |
| kgriffs | Moving along... | 19:54 |
| kgriffs | #topic bp/storage-placement | 19:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/storage-placement (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 19:55 | |
| kgriffs | flaper87 suggested putting priority on this at medium. We definitely need to get it done for launch, though | 19:55 |
| kgriffs | thoughts? | 19:55 |
| oz_akan | I agree this needs to be done quick | 19:57 |
| oz_akan | it is one of the building blocks for scaling | 19:58 |
| kgriffs | should it be for H1 (may 30) or is it ok for H2? | 19:58 |
| oz_akan | I think we need to have it day one, it might be harder to implement later on | 19:59 |
| oz_akan | I am not sure where it falls though in terms of timing | 20:00 |
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| kgriffs | OK. We've got a ton of stuff happening the next couple of weeks, so let's put this on the frontend of H2 | 20:00 |
| kgriffs | BTW - looks like we are out of time | 20:01 |
| kgriffs | I will take a stab at prioritizing the rest of the stuff. Look things over and email or post your comments in #openstack-marconi | 20:01 |
| kgriffs | any last-minute items? | 20:01 |
| oz_akan | thanks kgriffs | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | likewise | 20:02 |
| kgriffs | cheers everyone | 20:02 |
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| kgriffs | #action kgriffs to finish prioritizing blueprints, will discuss next time | 20:03 |
| kgriffs | #endmeeting | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate) || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 20:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 9 20:03:20 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-05-09-19.07.html | 20:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-05-09-19.07.txt | 20:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-05-09-19.07.log.html | 20:03 |
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