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| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting savanna | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 28 18:01:04 2013 UTC. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: savanna)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' | 18:01 |
| ogelbukh | o/ | 18:02 |
| rnirmal | hi there | 18:03 |
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| rnirmal | is this the standard meeting time for savanna ? I'm hoping to participate starting today | 18:04 |
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| dmitryme2 | #info Ok folks, I believe we can begin today's meeting | 18:04 |
| dmitryme2 | rnirmal: you are right | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | rnirmal, yes, we held this meeting weekly at this time | 18:05 |
| rnirmal | cool thanks | 18:05 |
| dmitryme2 | Let's start with agenda | 18:05 |
| dmitryme2 | First come some news | 18:05 |
| dmitryme2 | We've implemented basic validation for cluster and node-templates create operations | 18:06 |
| dmitryme2 | 2. we move our repo to stackforge, now you can create CRs and Jemkins will run all tests | 18:06 |
| dmitryme2 | 3. latest master tarball is available at http://tarballs.openstack.org/savanna/ | 18:06 |
| dmitryme2 | 4. we are working on improving code coverage with unit testing | 18:07 |
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| dmitryme2 | 5. we are working on HowToContribute document | 18:07 |
| dmitryme2 | 6. horizon is ready to be published, some final preparations are yet to be done | 18:07 |
| dmitryme2 | These are all the news for that week | 18:08 |
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| Brad_K | SergeyLukjanov: thanks for the reminder! | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Brad_K, you're welcome :) | 18:09 |
| dmitryme2 | I don't have much to say about input validation, we just have some now :-) | 18:09 |
| dmitryme2 | first step to be user-friendly | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | As for about moving our repo to StackForge, we finalized it and now anyone can easily contribute | 18:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | to Savanna | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info Savanna lives now on http://github.com/stackforge/savanna | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | one more interesting thing - now you can install savanna using pip | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and our latest master branch tarball | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | just exec pip install http://tarballs.openstack.org/savanna/savanna-master.tar.gz\#egg\=savanna :) | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | unfortunately, config files should be manually created | 18:13 |
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| dmitryme2 | we've started to work on tests and want to complete the work on the next week | 18:14 |
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| dmitryme2 | that is the necessary part to allow other folks build and change the project | 18:15 |
| dmitryme2 | another part is HowToContribute document | 18:16 |
| dmitryme2 | Currently you can test the project and file bugs on the launchpad | 18:18 |
| dmitryme2 | it would be great if the project is tested on different OpenStack setups | 18:19 |
| dmitryme2 | right now we test it in our lab only | 18:19 |
| dmitryme2 | Probably you've seen our Horizon pages in the screencast | 18:20 |
| dmitryme2 | we're going to share the them pretty soon so you can try it live | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | one more interesting point | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info we start using hacking.py to check code style | 18:21 |
| dmitryme2 | Regarding our plans for the next week | 18:23 |
| dmitryme2 | we already coverd couple of items in agenda: | 18:23 |
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| dmitryme2 | 1. Publish HowToContribute doc | 18:23 |
| dmitryme2 | 2. publish Horizon | 18:23 |
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| dmitryme2 | 3. Make a build which we'll call the alpha version | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | we are planning to publish this build to the pypi | 18:25 |
| Brad_K | cool! | 18:26 |
| nkonovalov | as for horizon, we have added new wizards for node template creating | 18:27 |
| nkonovalov | there are few minor steps to take before we can publish it, just to make sure all feachures of rest api are available from openstack dashboard | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info planing to publish custom Horizon at the next week | 18:29 |
| dmitryme2 | And I believe that is pretty all for agenda | 18:30 |
| Brad_K | sounds like you folks have done a lot of work! | 18:30 |
| dmitryme2 | thanks Brad :-) | 18:31 |
| dmitryme2 | people, maybe you do have basic questions about our product | 18:32 |
| Brad_K | Sometimes I cringe a bit for the pip and pypi folks, though. but i guess those are good problems to have. ;-) | 18:32 |
| dmitryme2 | we've ready to answer them all | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://savanna.mirantis.com Savanna project site with arch / docs / api and etc. | 18:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | additionally, tarballs will be published | 18:33 |
| dmitryme2 | Brad, well, all openstack projects use pypi and pip | 18:33 |
| dmitryme2 | we have a pain right now - it is how to write our own python client | 18:35 |
| Brad_K | dmitryme2: i know, but still i look at what some of you folks are doing, and as a member of the python.org postmaster team, sometimes I still cringe a bit. but then, growth is good — yes? | 18:36 |
| YorikSar | dmitryme2: for most of OS projects only clients are on PyPI. | 18:36 |
| Brad_K | SergeyLukjanov: i don't suppose you've looked at creating binary packages for various platforms? | 18:36 |
| dmitryme2 | Brad, you're right, we didn't | 18:37 |
| dmitryme2 | I believe it is not a blocker | 18:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Brad_K, we are thinking about it, but we have no plans to build binary packages now | 18:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | as for about client, it'll be great if anyone have ideas about how to create pretty good python-savannaclient :) | 18:38 |
| Brad_K | for now, i would agree with you — continue to focus on development. but keep this in mind once you're ready to open things up to a wider audience, including folks who are more operations-oriented than being developers. | 18:39 |
| Brad_K | don't do anything before it makes sense to do it, of course. | 18:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we have take a look on different clients of OpenStack components | 18:39 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | but there is no common pattern in them | 18:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and our goal is to understand how it should looks like | 18:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean architecture, functionality, etc | 18:41 |
| Brad_K | it seems to me that there are two parts to this problem. one part is to have the tool fit correctly into the overall architecture of OpenStack, and I think that the core developers might be better placed to answer that part of the question. As for what would make sense from the community side (and how people would like to interact with the tool), it's been my experience that you usually won't get much feedback until you actually put s | 18:44 |
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| Brad_K | from that point, if you're doing proper agile development, you should be able to quickly remove or reshape the worst offending parts, and then put out the next iteration. | 18:45 |
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| dmitryme2 | Brad: we took our chance if there is a core developer here right now | 18:47 |
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| Brad_K | i don't blame you for trying, but i fear that you may have to more actively reach out to the core developers that you want to try to draft in as your advisors/mentors. | 18:50 |
| dmitryme2 | Folks, do you have more questions? | 18:52 |
| dmitryme2 | If not, I guess it is about time to end our meeting | 18:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | JFYI you can always use savanna-all@lists.launchpad.net mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 28 18:53:29 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-03-28-18.01.html | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-03-28-18.01.txt | 18:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-03-28-18.01.log.html | 18:53 |
| dmitryme2 | Thanks for taking interest in the project :-) | 18:53 |
| dmitryme2 | We'll meet you again next week, same time, same place | 18:54 |
| Brad_K | thanks again! much appreciated! | 19:02 |
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