Tuesday, 2020-01-07

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portdirect#startmeeting openstack-helm16:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan  7 16:02:02 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"16:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'16:02
portdirecto/ happy new year folks!16:02
dwalto/16:02
dwalthappy new year!16:02
portdirectlets give it a few mins for people to arrive16:02
lamto/16:02
srwilkerso/16:02
srwilkers2020 has arrived. So weird16:02
portdirectagenda is here: please add away: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2020-01-0716:02
gagehugoo/16:03
stevthedevHappy new year!16:03
portdirectok - lets begin16:05
portdirect#topic default openstack release16:05
*** openstack changes topic to "default openstack release (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"16:05
portdirectso since what now seems like the beginning of time, we have defaulted to ocata16:05
portdirectmuch like the beginning of time, ocata is now rather long in the tooth16:06
portdirectand should probably be spending time in a nice rocking chair reading a book16:06
portdirectrather than being flogged up and down our gates etc16:06
portdirectso - should we move to stein?16:06
srwilkersI think that’s sane16:07
lamt++16:07
portdirectok - any objectors? If not lets do it.16:07
* portdirect looks at tumbleweed roll past16:08
portdirectnice16:08
portdirectso would anyone like to take this on?16:08
lamtI can16:09
portdirectlamt: the hero we need - thanks dude16:09
lamtnp16:09
portdirectso - just before we move on16:09
portdirectstein is a great improvement, but even thats lagging the rest of openstack16:09
portdirectonce this is done, lets regroup next week and discuss train16:10
portdirect#topic State of the Gate16:10
*** openstack changes topic to "State of the Gate (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"16:10
portdirectso our gates have had their own journeys16:10
portdirectpicking up and dropping things off along the way16:10
portdirectto the point where i think there is more duct tape and bubblegum than actual structure anymore16:10
* srwilkers slinks away16:11
portdirecti wish we could all slink away srwilkers16:11
portdirectbut that said - i think the community(ies) have put us in a good spot16:11
portdirectif people are ok with it, I'd like to redo the gates this week16:12
portdirectremoving the old k8s-aio and getting us to 'pure' kubeadm16:12
portdirectand at the same time gut the scripts/tools dirs of all the crud we dont use anymore16:12
portdirectany objections/ideas?16:12
dwaltI'd like to help with this. Airship is a heavy user of your gate infrastructure16:13
portdirectnice - that would be great dwalt16:13
lamtnope - I will hold off on that addons gate fix then16:13
lamtso the structure will align16:13
portdirectlamt: id still push it - its so close, and what im proposing will take a week16:13
lamtah16:14
portdirectdwalt: ok if i push up a poc, and add you as a reviewer - and then we can take it from there?16:14
dwaltsounds like a plan16:14
portdirectlamt: you could however probably ignore my -1 and ref this meeting as why we can just copy the scripts in the short term ;)16:15
portdirectok to move on?16:15
srwilkersI’d like to pile on here, and add that we also need to move all jobs to use the feature gate functionality16:15
portdirectsrwilkers: ++++ to that16:15
lamtportdirect: will do16:16
srwilkersAs that will help further consolidate the things we dump on top of Kubernetes in our jobs16:16
srwilkersThat’s all I had to add - sorry16:16
portdirectim frankly proposing a 'clean slate here', two ps: one that simply removes *all* our current gate code, and another that adds it back correctly16:16
srwilkersWorks for me16:17
portdirectok - lets go into the next topic im sure we would all like to slink away from16:17
portdirect#topic docs16:17
*** openstack changes topic to "docs (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"16:17
portdirectto say our docs have bit rot is unfair16:17
portdirectas it imples they were great to begin with16:18
portdirectbut they are pretty rotten atm16:18
portdirectand also with the above, will cease to work16:18
portdirecti think we prooabbly need a working session on this16:19
* portdirect wishes we had a ptg coming up16:19
srwilkers++ to all that16:19
portdirectbut i think we can proabably split the osh cabal into a few bits:16:19
srwilkersVirtual midcycle sounds appropriate16:19
portdirectOpenstack Proper16:19
portdirectSupporrting infra (mariadb/ceph etc)16:19
portdirectand LMA16:20
portdirectshoudl we consider splitting the docs like the above?16:20
srwilkersWorks for me16:20
stevthedevI think that makes sense16:20
portdirectsrwilkers: virtual midcycle would be great16:21
portdirectgagehugo: how have those been done for keystone?16:21
gagehugosorry was away16:23
portdirectall good16:23
gagehugowe've done telepresence over 2 days for ~4 hours each day16:23
gagehugodepends on the amount of material I guess16:23
portdirectand what was the process to set one up?16:23
gagehugowe just announced it via the mailing list, used something like bluejeans/jitsu16:24
gagehugowe used gotomeeting for one of them16:24
portdirectnice - if there are no objections, i can get a mail out to the ml and propose some potential timeslots16:25
portdirecti think 2 4 hour sessions would be a great starting point16:25
gagehugohttps://meet.jit.si/ was another one we used before16:26
portdirectgagehugo: i think webex would be fine16:27
gagehugoprobaby16:27
portdirectok - anything else we should be thinking about this week before moving onto reviews?16:28
portdirect#topic reviews16:30
*** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"16:30
roman_gportdirect: add me as a reviewer to OSH gates change, please.16:31
portdirecthttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/701235/ (Fixing the addons gate)16:31
roman_gHi all o/16:31
portdirecthey roman_g - will do16:31
lamtI will add a note to that PS, but it should in the short term get minimirror and ranger unblocked16:31
portdirect++16:32
lamtwithout removing all the checks that is16:32
portdirectif thats it for this week, lets give people some time back16:32
portdirectok folks16:34
portdirectthanks for coming!16:34
portdirect#endmeeting16:34
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"16:34
openstackMeeting ended Tue Jan  7 16:34:35 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:34
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gagehugothanks portdirect16:36
roman_gThank you!16:37
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