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| portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 30 15:00:57 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| dwalt | o/ | 15:01 |
| megheisler | \o | 15:01 |
| portdirect | lets give it a few mins for people to arrive | 15:01 |
| portdirect | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-07-30 | 15:01 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:01 |
| georgk | hi | 15:01 |
| rihabb2 | o/ | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| howell | o/ | 15:02 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 15:03 |
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| portdirect | ok - lets go | 15:04 |
| portdirect | #topic release management method mechanics | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release management method mechanics (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
| portdirect | we have a ps up here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673022/ which is an effort to begin the formalisation of our agreed upon stance to release management | 15:05 |
| portdirect | ttx had suggested `independant` as the path to follow here | 15:06 |
| portdirect | but based on evrardjp's feedback would `none` be more appropriate for now? | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | i think none makes sense here | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | well | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | I don't think so -- I think you can drop that patch, and just make a patch in the releases repo, saying you're independent | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | I can walk you through that if you like | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | you would need a file in here: https://github.com/openstack/releases/tree/master/deliverables/_independent | 15:08 |
| lamt | What is the impact if we put release management: none - would that not accomplish the same thing? | 15:08 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: already done: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673024/ | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | none in governance was meant for something else. So I will double check with the TC and releases if we want to have this instead. | 15:09 |
| portdirect | i just need to add storyboard | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | It looks like other projects that don't follow a release strictly also use none, so that seems fine | 15:10 |
| evrardjp | yeah. You can even add more things portdirect :) | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | evrardjp: okay. based on your feedback on that change, i would have assumed that was the case and you wouldnt need to double check | 15:10 |
| portdirect | though Sean McGinnis says that the releases repo ps is not required | 15:10 |
| portdirect | so i think it would help if you could align with the tc evrardjp | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | i agree here | 15:11 |
| portdirect | as im getting conflicting advice from three angles | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: let me rephrase. independent shouldn't be governance, IMO | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | it would be nice to formalize this, as this seems to be a recurring discussion each cycle | 15:11 |
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| portdirect | to be clear: we are not yet ready for a release, and dont intend to follow the openstack release cycle when we are. | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | marking it as none in governance is something we can do. But I would encourage to say that we have some release management instead | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | and that release management we have is independant of openstack | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | branches | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | so for me the only thing that apply is a patch in releases | 15:12 |
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| evrardjp | (with the model being independent) | 15:12 |
| portdirect | ok - so please sync with sean, and ttx | 15:12 |
| lamt | would none be the correct thing to add if independent is not correct - but I agree with portdirect , it would be good to have agreement with TC. | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | I will make sure this is discussed on the next tc office hours or in the review | 15:13 |
| portdirect | great - thanks dude | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | sorry for the mess there, you shouldn't have to worry about that :) | 15:13 |
| portdirect | np | 15:13 |
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| portdirect | ok - lets move on | 15:14 |
| portdirect | #topic Broken image building | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Broken image building (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:14 | |
| portdirect | evrardjp: you're up :D | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | oh yeah | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | so don't bother doing patches into loci images right now, things are broken | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | it's due to a package we are building, who has disappeared from pypi | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | we have a temp fix to not build it, which only impacts zaqar afaik | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | I am discussing the long term fix as we speak | 15:17 |
| evrardjp | nothing else to say. | 15:17 |
| portdirect | ok - thanks dude | 15:19 |
| cheng1 | So the openstack-helm-image CI fails recently? | 15:19 |
| cheng1 | I didn't pay attention | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | yeah | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | on just the loci built images | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | it's recent | 15:21 |
| cheng1 | Ok, evrardjp . got it | 15:21 |
| cheng1 | thanks | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | yw | 15:23 |
| * srwilkers slaps portdirect around with a rather large trout | 15:24 | |
| * evrardjp smiles as he sees the red face of portdirect | 15:24 | |
| srwilkers | alright - i think portdirect got pulled into something else. aside from the reviews listed, is there anything else we wanted to discuss for round table? | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | alright. not sure i can change the topic, so here's the list of items on the review list | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671696/ | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/643284/ | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671030/ - update Nagios Core to 4.4.3 | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668202/ - propose adding PVC support for singleton Nagios pod deployment | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672578/ - update elasticsearch register snapshot repository job to include verification of repositories added | 15:27 |
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| srwilkers | one for adding the jq package to the neutron image, one for extending the neutron chart to support ovs with dpdk | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | and the other three there are mine, so shameless plug | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | just general updating for the nagios image, then quality-of-life improvements for the nagios and elasticsearch charts | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | no reason to be ashamed in the first place :) | 15:29 |
| lamt | Also - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673372 - someone added that just now | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | on the first one, do we want consistency? | 15:29 |
| srwilkers | yep, just saw | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | across the neutron images? | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with being smarter at inclusion of packages | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | it's always the lightweight vs featureful topic | 15:30 |
| cheng1 | Yeah, to parse json file. I would like to include the new package jq evrardjp | 15:31 |
| georgk | evrardjp: in order to support per-host overrides, we need local config files. And we need jq for parsing those in a human-comprehensible manner | 15:31 |
| cheng1 | which is just tens of KB | 15:31 |
| georgk | happy to explain the details... :-) | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with the addition of jq :) | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | same here | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | I am just wondering if it won't be a problem for future me if neutron sriov images needs jq later, and I thought we had done it | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | i do love me some jq | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | we can still see later, it's fine :) | 15:33 |
| evrardjp | sorry for that convo then :p | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | might be worth discussing whether it's something we should add to the images most likely to be part of a host level overrides scenario | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | just food for thought | 15:34 |
| * srwilkers shrugs | 15:34 | |
| srwilkers | looks like we've got two more items added | 15:35 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: thanks for translating that into english | 15:35 |
| evrardjp | That's exactly what I meant | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | evrardjp: np :) | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | oh, i like this change: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672738/5 | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | i know we discussed that last week | 15:35 |
| lamt | that's me - added re: DB backup from last week. | 15:36 |
| evrardjp | that's cool indeed | 15:36 |
| lamt | posting on behalf of Cliff who is not here | 15:36 |
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| srwilkers | id like to see corresponding changes to take advantage of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672738/5 quickly. im wondering if instead of having conditional checks, it instead makes sense to take advantage of the built in sprig default function for when those things arent supplied | 15:39 |
| srwilkers | and just makimg those defaults the standard kubernetes job defaults (ie: backofflimit = 6, etc) | 15:39 |
| srwilkers | that's all i've got | 15:41 |
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| evrardjp | oh I see | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: but wouldn't that mean we would have to maintain those k8s defaults in tree? | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | or is there some cleverness possible? | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | (sorry for the late answer there) | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | (that's all I got too) | 15:43 |
| srwilkers | it would unfortunately, but i'd argue the tradeoff here is sacrificing readability/simplicity | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | I don't know how much they change, and if that wouldn't set wrong expectations | 15:44 |
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| evrardjp | srwilkers: after more than hour anyone can stop a meeting | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | just saying | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:46 |
| portdirect | hey - sorry - been pulled into fun | 15:47 |
| portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 30 15:47:16 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-07-30-15.00.html | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-07-30-15.00.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-07-30-15.00.log.html | 15:47 |
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| evrardjp | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
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