Monday, 2019-05-13

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dulekdmellado: Starting the meeting?14:03
dmelladooh, yes14:04
dmellado#startmeeting kuryr14:04
openstackMeeting started Mon May 13 14:04:20 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dmellado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:04
dmelladohiya foilks, who's here today for the kuryr meeting?14:04
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duleko/14:04
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dulekThough I'm just back from my PTO, so there won't be a lot of updates from me. ;)14:05
dmelladoI came back from SnowpenStack teh 2nd14:05
dmelladothat's just Denver for all of you14:06
dmelladoI had a nice discussion with sean k mooney and jan from os-vif14:06
dmelladodid you get to see the etherpad?14:06
dmellado#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/os-vif-kuryr14:06
dmellado#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:09
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dmelladobesides that, I also want to let you folks know that all kuryr cores are now also devstack-plugin-container cores14:09
dmelladoas hongbin kindly asked us to help on that so we could all get faster reviews14:09
dmelladoso yahoo new +2 powers14:10
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dmelladowe were also discussing about...who would guess14:11
dmelladooctavia and amphoraes14:11
maysamsXD14:11
dmelladojohnsom: around?14:12
johnsomGreat things14:12
dmelladohiya!14:12
dmelladoI kinda recall that we noted down the current issues on the non-lxc containerization14:13
dmelladowouldn't you have that link around?14:13
johnsomSure, just a second14:13
johnsomhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-train-ptg14:13
johnsomLine 20414:14
johnsomIt's a rough list Carlos captured.14:14
dmelladothanks johnsom14:14
johnsomDefinitely do-able, just some work required.14:14
johnsomI think most of that list is about issues running under k8s. Not as focused on Docker14:15
dmelladoso overall, most of my concerns are also regarding performance14:15
johnsomOr other non-lxc flavors14:15
dmelladoyeah14:15
dmelladobut in any case, ltomasbo I command thee to set up some fancy meeting to discuss this as and try to set up work items14:16
dmelladoxD14:16
johnsomI think the key part is getting the multiple processes we use communicating14:16
dmelladohonestly yeah14:17
dmelladobut also how to handle scheduler if that makes you lose connection14:17
johnsomYeah, I personally feel that k8s is just not a good fit for a low level networking service. At least not last time I looked.14:18
ltomasboo/ reading backlong...14:18
ltomasbobacklog14:18
dmelladoltomasbo: not that much so far, so no worries14:21
ltomasboyep!14:21
dmelladoI was just going to say that the same that we'll be having a meeting with the os-vif folks14:21
dmelladolet's schedule another one with the octavia team14:21
dmelladoand let's call it vPTG14:21
dmelladoI'll put up some etherpads/meetings and so14:22
dmelladojohnsom: you're be our most welcomed guess14:22
johnsomNice14:22
dmelladoAnother topic that got covered around the PTG, besides the trains, which might sound funny but still affected some rooms14:23
dmelladowas about making some changes at the openstacksdk/client14:24
dmelladoin order to tackle the missing parts for bulk operations14:24
dmelladowe had a meeting with dhellmann and agreed to somehow add a new model to the openstackclient14:24
dmelladopretty much in the same way that kubernetes is doing with files14:25
dmelladoso insted of kubectl apply -f14:25
dmelladoit'll be somehow along the lines of openstack bulk create -f foo.yaml14:25
dmelladonjohnston will be the one proposing such a model change so maysams, dulek, ltomasbo, please do lend him a hand and review his patches14:27
dmelladoalso, ltomasbo14:28
ltomasbodmellado, it will be real bulk operation? or just a way to call the api just once? but the tasks are done 1 by 114:28
dmelladoI'll be getting you in touch with some INRIA folks who we might want to sync in Kuryr edge networking usecases14:28
dmelladoltomasbo: njohnston modified neutron so now there's real bulk operation using the api14:29
ltomasbodmellado, bulk operations for what? creating/deleting ports?14:29
ltomasboor for anything? like creating sg rules?14:29
ltomasbothe later will be awesome for network policies....14:29
dmelladoltomasbo: seems like everything that the api supports would now be real bulk14:29
dmelladoso that'd be really cool14:30
maysamsfor sure!!14:30
dmelladoI'm pretty sure it'll heavily affect performance14:30
dmelladoand we might even want to deprecate port pools if this goes all well14:30
ltomasboI won't believe it until I see it in action :)14:30
dmelladoltomasbo: me neither, so *again* I command thee14:30
dmelladoxD14:30
ltomasbodmellado, not sure about that either... still better to have them ready than re-create them14:30
dmelladowell, you know the rest, please do test this if you get the chance14:31
dmelladoand let's sync with the neutron guys if there's something that is *not* there14:31
dmelladoltomasbo: maysams any update from your side?14:32
dmelladodulek: how's being back home? hope you like the beers better now :D14:32
maysamsdmellado: I've been mostly working on adding more tests to upstream k8s, and fixing some bugs regarding NP14:33
ltomasbodmellado, not much, working on the patch to add pools to newly created namespaces: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656975/14:33
dulekdmellado: First the Internet is waaaay better. ;)14:33
dmelladodulek: oh, true! you'll even be able to use video now xD14:33
dulek:)14:33
dulekdmellado: And beer was here as well, as friends got us a surprise party on Friday when we drove back to our place. :D14:34
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dmelladobtw, recalled about you in Denver as I got to see your Intel friends 'from Berlin'14:34
dulekdmellado: Ah right, Roman was there, and the rest of OVH folks.14:35
dmelladoand  in case you're wondering what did the foundation was giving away this time14:35
dmelladonow I do own some openstack socks14:35
dmelladoxD14:35
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dmelladoall right, so it looks like this was all for today, we'll be at #openstack-.kuryr in case anyone wants to hang around14:37
dmelladothanks all!14:37
dmellado#endmeeting kuryr14:37
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gnuoy\o17:00
thedaco/17:00
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gnuoyOk, lets hang on a minute for any late arrivals17:00
gnuoy#startmeeting charms17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon May 13 17:01:43 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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gnuoy#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:01
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gnuoyThere don't seem to be any actions from the last minuting as far as I can tell17:02
gnuoy#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:02
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coreycbo/17:02
gnuoy19.04 wasn't that long ago17:02
gnuoyI'm currently porting move functional tests over to zaza17:02
gnuoyAnyone got anything they'd like to highlight ?17:03
coreycbnothing to add here17:03
gnuoyI think most of us are tieing (I can't spell that word) up loose ends atm17:03
tinwoodnothing from me17:03
thedacLots of discussion from the PTG. I'll get the link17:03
gnuoykk17:04
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coreycbgood point. yes lots of discussion there.17:04
thedac#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/charms-train-ptg17:04
gnuoyThanks for that, I suggest we read it through before the next meeting as there is lots in there17:05
gnuoyAnything you'd like to pickup thedac, coreycb or shall we read at our leisure ?17:06
gnuoys/pickup/ pick out/17:06
thedacIt is a lot to read. Nothing in particular for now.17:07
coreycbwell enabling tests early in train is worth pointing out17:07
coreycbi'm currently enabling train cloud archive17:07
gnuoythat sounds like an excellent idea17:07
gnuoykk, thanks coreycb17:07
gnuoy#topic High Priority Bugs17:07
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gnuoy  https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs 17:07
gnuoy  Use stable-backport tag for bugs  http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports17:07
gnuoy  Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs17:07
gnuoy  High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority17:07
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gnuoyIt'd be great if the bug triage effort continued17:08
thedacYes, that is the focus for this week17:08
tinwoodyes, I'll be on that tomorow as well.17:08
gnuoygreat, thank you17:09
gnuoyAs for criticals Bug #1818260 looks like the only open  one17:10
openstackbug 1818260 in OpenStack rabbitmq-server charm "forget cluster node failed during cluster-relation-changed hook" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818260 - Assigned to David Ames (thedac)17:10
gnuoythedac, looks like you have the one, do you have a plan of action?17:10
thedacYes, didn't realize I owned it but my last post is the plan. I'll try and get time17:10
gnuoyor stop owning it17:11
thedactrue :)17:11
gnuoyI know your secret plan to fix the world on your own17:11
gnuoy#topic Openstack Events17:11
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gnuoyNothing coming up in the near future that I know of17:12
gnuoyanyone else?17:12
gnuoyIn that case lets discuss things openly17:12
gnuoy#topic Open Discussion17:12
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coreycbnothing here17:13
gnuoyI'm going to close down this open discussion unless anyone has anything17:14
tinwoodnot from me17:14
thedacNothing from me17:14
gnuoykk17:14
gnuoy#topic Next Chair17:14
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gnuoyoh, I've lost the link17:14
gnuoytinwood, !17:15
tinwoodyay17:15
tinwood:)17:15
gnuoy#endmeeting17:15
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thedacThanks, gnuoy17:15
tinwoodthanks gnuoy17:15
gnuoymy absolute pleasure17:15
coreycbthanks gnuoy17:18
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