Monday, 2019-04-15

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jamespageo/08:59
jamespagemorning upgraders08:59
fnordahl\o08:59
iceyo/08:59
jamespagehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upgrades-sig-meeting08:59
jamespagewill start shortly09:00
gnuoy\o09:00
jamespage#startmeeting upgrades_sig09:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 15 09:03:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: upgrades_sig)"09:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'upgrades_sig'09:03
jamespagemorning all - I see a few openstack-charmers here for the upgrades-sig meeting - any others?09:03
jamespagenope ok this might be a quick one then!09:04
jamespage#topic Ops Feedback09:04
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jamespageobjective for this topic is for operators to discuss current pain points09:05
jamespagebut as we don't have any here..09:05
jamespage#topic Deployment Project Updates09:05
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jamespagefnordahl: want to say anything on behalf of the openstack-charms project here?09:05
jamespageanything new?09:05
fnordahlWe are on the verge of releasing the OpenStack Charms 19.0409:05
fnordahlThere will be new features one of them being support for deploying OpenStack Stein on Bionic.09:06
jamespage\o/09:06
fnordahlMore details to be announced as part of our documentation in the charm-guide and deployment-guide09:07
jamespagethanks - upgrades from rocky of course!09:07
jamespage#topic Knowledge Sharing09:07
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jamespagenot sure we'll have anything here today; I have been looking at optimising the restart logic for openvswitch in Ubuntu to minimise downtime during package upgrades09:08
jamespagehowever that is WIP and probably won't be mature until 20.0409:08
jamespageanything else for the knowledge sharing section09:08
jamespage?09:09
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fnordahlWe have hit some challenges with the migration to Python 3.7 on Ubuntu Disco09:09
fnordahlI'm brewing up some changes to the charm layer ``layer-basic`` to help tackle them09:10
gnuoyThere may not be anyone in the meeting right now who can answer this but I'd be interested if anyone has experience of running clouds for a long period with mixed OpenStack releases > I've upgraded half my compute nodes to N+1 but left the other half at N sort of thing.09:10
jamespageack - thanks that's a good headsup for +12 months when that's the default python3 version - I know coreycb and others have been enabling and fixing issues across projects09:10
jamespagegnuoy: I think that's a good question09:10
iceyI did a bit mixed, not compute, but network/compute for a while09:11
iceyit was xenial-queens for neutron-gateway and bionic-rocky for the rest of the cloud09:12
iceysample size of one but it did basically just work09:12
gnuoyack, thanks09:12
fnordahlThere is upcoming support in juju for something called generations, basically version control for your juju models09:13
fnordahlThat will probably lead to more people running mixed versions as part of upgrades etc09:14
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jamespageI would expect that to be somewhat transitory09:14
jamespageanyway - I'll document in the meeting notes as a question - might get a response on the ML09:15
jamespageok next09:15
jamespage#topic Docs Updates09:15
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jamespageI don't think we have any of those right now09:15
jamespageSIG is a bit stale recently09:15
jamespage#topic Open Discussion09:15
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jamespageanyone for anything else?09:15
fnordahlnot from me09:15
gnuoynor me09:16
iceyNope09:16
jamespageok lets wrap then09:16
jamespage#endmeeting09:16
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"09:16
jamespagethanks all09:16
openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr 15 09:16:36 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:16
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upgrades_sig/2019/upgrades_sig.2019-04-15-09.03.html09:16
fnordahlthanks jamespage09:16
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upgrades_sig/2019/upgrades_sig.2019-04-15-09.03.txt09:16
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upgrades_sig/2019/upgrades_sig.2019-04-15-09.03.log.html09:16
iceythanks jamespage09:16
jamespagenp09:18
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dmellado#startmeeting kuryr14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 15 14:00:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dmellado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:00
dmelladoHi folks! who's here for the kuryr meeting today?14:00
duleko/14:01
dmellado#chair dulek14:03
openstackCurrent chairs: dmellado dulek14:03
dmelladook, so dulek, seems like there's not that much traction today14:06
dmelladoso I'll just cover some stuff14:06
dmellado#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:06
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dulek;)14:07
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dmelladowe've some patches to migrate to py35, such as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/652392/14:07
dmelladothanks gmann14:08
dmelladonot to migrate, to drop14:08
dmelladoxD14:08
dmelladoaccording to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005097.html14:08
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dmelladodulek: please do take a look at the ones for kuryr and kuryr-libnetwork14:09
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dulekdmellado: I only can do +2 on kuryr-kubernetes, but sure. ;)14:09
dulekdmellado: Talking about procedural patches - can you revise your stance on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/648209 ?14:10
dmelladodulek, oh, I'll drag our lazy bum... I meant celebdor xD14:10
dmelladosure14:10
dulekdmellado: I'm pretty sure without that patch we're pointing to master's upper-constraints, instead of stable/stein.14:10
dmelladodulek: yeah, we discussed that on the irc channel, thought I already revisited it14:10
dmelladoanyway, done now14:11
dulekYes, I forgot about it as well, just noticed now that it's hanging.14:11
dmellado#topic open discussion14:12
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dmelladoso, I just want to mention that I'll be at the Summit and there are 3 sessions for Kuryr, so feel free to drop by if you're around14:12
dmelladoregarding the PTG, we'll be planning for a vPTG after the f2f one14:13
dmelladoand as there aren't many people due to easter, I guess I'll be closing this14:13
dmelladoif anyone wants something we're at #openstack-kuryr14:13
dmelladothanks!14:13
dmellado#endmeeting14:13
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jamespageanyone here for upgrades-sig irc meeting #2 ?16:03
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tinwoodo/16:59
tinwoodis there an overlap with charms?17:00
jamespageo/17:00
tinwoodhi17:00
jamespagetinwood: no - they just back-to-back!17:00
tinwoodah, timestamps; yes, i see17:01
jamespagehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-2019041517:02
jamespage#startmeeting charms17:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 15 17:02:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'17:02
jamespagewell good evening/good morning!17:02
jamespage#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:02
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tinwoodhi17:02
jamespagethis will be quick - no action points!17:02
tinwood:)17:02
jamespage#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:02
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jamespageOK so planned release date was last thursday - however we're not quite ready - a few release blocker bugs17:03
jamespageand a couple of failing gate tests.17:03
jamespagecan we get the bugs listed here for perpetuity?17:03
tinwoodyes, I'm chasing down a couple of keystone ones17:03
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* tinwood is looking for bug number17:04
tinwoodhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-keystone/+bug/1823743 -- only has a partial fix.17:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1823743 in OpenStack keystone charm "manager.py crashed during upgrade-charm hook" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Alex Kavanagh (ajkavanagh)17:04
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jamespagewe also have17:05
jamespagehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-nova-cloud-controller/+bug/182374017:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1823740 in OpenStack nova-cloud-controller charm "can't read availability zones and instances don't start" [Critical,Incomplete] - Assigned to Sahid Orentino (sahid-ferdjaoui)17:05
jamespagewhich is due to the removal of the single-consoleauth feature (which was a bit broken) to be replaced by the use of memcached17:05
jamespageif you deployment has mismatching default bindings ...17:06
jamespagewell things explode - this will be release noted with a workaround (thanks to thedac)17:06
jamespage#topic High Priority Bugs17:07
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jamespageI'm going to skip the bug review - we just looked at the crits!17:07
jamespageand17:07
jamespage#topic Openstack Events17:07
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jamespageSummit PTG round the corner17:07
thedacLooking forward to seeing everyone17:07
jamespageideas for charms room here please -17:07
jamespagehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/charms-train-ptg17:07
jamespagethanks fnordahl for getting that setup!17:08
jamespagewe've already added a few items for discussion17:08
jamespageplus I do think we need to complete some sort of team building exercise on the saturday for those kicking around still!17:08
jamespage#topic Open Discussion17:09
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jamespageanything from anyone?17:09
thedacNone from me17:09
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tinwoodnot from me; very release focussed at the moment :)17:09
jamespageok17:10
jamespagenext chair is thedac and17:10
jamespage#endmeeting17:10
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr 15 17:10:58 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:10
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jamespageuntil next time!17:11
thedac\o/17:11
thedacThanks, jamespage17:11
tinwoodthanks jamespage17:11
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