Tuesday, 2019-03-26

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portdirecto/14:59
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jayahno/ hi everyone, i am back!14:59
portdirect#startmeeting openstack-helm14:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 26 14:59:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'14:59
portdirectlets give it 5 mins for people to arrive15:00
srwilkerso/15:00
jayahno/15:00
portdirectAgenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-03-2615:00
srwilkersWelcome back jayahn15:00
evrardjpo/15:00
portdirectplease feel free to add to it15:00
dwalto/15:00
portdirectyeah - great to see you here jayahn :D15:00
georgkhi15:00
jayahnyeah, i was kept by network operation team for the last several weeks15:00
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evrardjpmust be interesting15:01
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portdirectjayahn: is that what the bar you go to is called ;P15:01
jayahndid a small size production vnf w/ osh & armada & .15:01
jayahnyeap. you got it.15:02
portdirectnice - thats awesome dude15:02
howello/15:02
portdirectare you still using armada directly? or via api?15:02
jayahndirectly15:02
portdirectok - think we got enough people here to kick off15:03
portdirect#topic multi-os spec15:04
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portdirectevrardjp: your taking the charge here :D15:04
evrardjpso15:04
evrardjpspec is up15:04
evrardjphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/645142/15:04
evrardjpthanks lamt for the feedback already15:04
portdirecti also think some of Jiri Suchomel's comments are excellent15:05
evrardjpCould you please all review, so we can move on with our lives? I would like to merge this for next tuesday at latest.15:05
portdirectfrom my 1st pass over it, i think from a technical perspective this is looking good, though we probably need to work on the wording a bit15:06
evrardjpFine with rewording things. As long as it's not becoming a ping-pong game.15:06
evrardjpThat's all I had to say for today15:07
evrardjpon this topic15:07
portdirectagreed - i think we just need to remvoe the red rags ;)15:07
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portdirectok15:07
portdirect#topic images publication using upstream infra roles15:07
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portdirectevrardjp: you again :D15:08
evrardjpportdirect: sorry if others don't have added items in the agenda :p15:08
portdirectseriously - thanks for all your work on driving this forward15:08
evrardjpon this -- we are now almost completely relying on infra. Which means max tens of lines of code to maintain for the process.15:08
evrardjpit's working, and already exercised15:09
evrardjpRemoval of other images in the different repos will be handled soon15:09
evrardjpI will tackle this15:09
portdirectnice - thx dude15:09
evrardjp#action evrardjp remove remnants of old images in osh{,-infra} repos15:09
evrardjpSome images might be missing, so please propose patches15:10
portdirectwe should also make sure that we dont miss anything in this15:10
portdirectthe next step would presumably be an audit to ensure we are targetting the -infra built images by default in the charts/scripts15:10
evrardjpremoval should always be compared to the publication of existing ones indeed.15:10
evrardjpportdirect: that's correct.15:10
portdirectand then working on automation of testing15:10
evrardjpwhich is not the case here.15:10
evrardjpindeed, next step would be to have some kind of end to end testing15:11
portdirectthis sounds like a great thing for us to work through at ptg15:11
evrardjpwe will need infra too, if we want to speed up things. It can totally be done during PTG.15:11
portdirectyeah - this is what im thining15:12
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jayahnhm, i probably need to catch up with this image stuff. I will bug you two guys after.15:12
evrardjpnothing more to say. Thanks for being patient with me, asking all the times for reviews.15:12
portdirect#action portdirect start drawing up ptg agenda, so it can be published as etherpad next week15:12
portdirectok - lets move on15:13
evrardjpjayahn: sure thing. I think it would be better if we had docs though15:13
portdirect#topic python3 effort15:13
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evrardjpso. We'll only run OSH on python3 at SUSE15:13
portdirectso - there have been some great contributions recently to add python 3 support15:13
evrardjpwe found a few issues.15:13
evrardjp https://review.openstack.org/#/q/intopic:osh_suse_python315:14
evrardjpoh sorry portdirect15:14
portdirectthe obvious thing here, is we should work towards gaing py3 images15:14
portdirect*gating with15:14
portdirectas these fixes, are fantasic but only help as point in time15:14
portdirectuntill we fix that15:14
portdirecti think this very much ties in with the image gating above15:15
evrardjpif SUSE is gated, wouldn't that help?15:15
portdirectthoughts?15:15
portdirectexactly15:15
evrardjpIt is fine for me, but we need the multi os spec for that15:15
portdirectthough python shoudl be distro independant ;)15:15
evrardjpit is, but it's on the critical path basically15:15
portdirectunderstood - but its clear to make the distinction15:16
evrardjpexcept if you mean lint testing of python3 after templating the helm charts?15:16
portdirectno - im just making the point that python3 is not a prerequsite for running on openSUSE15:16
portdirectbut understand the desire from the SUSE developers to get this effort moving15:17
evrardjpportdirect: it kinda is. We won't ever run this on python215:17
evrardjpif you want openSUSE, then you need the latest and greatest(TM) python15:18
evrardjpjoke aside ... python2 is not covered by our efforts15:18
portdirectI get that15:18
portdirectthe point im now directly making15:19
evrardjpbut we are further from main conversation :)15:19
portdirectis that OSH as a whole should support python3 - regardless of distro, though its fantastic that SUSE is looking to fund that effort15:19
evrardjpoh yes, I totally see the future where other images are moved to python315:19
portdirectyup15:20
evrardjpif possible before 2020 :)15:20
portdirectyeah - lets make sure we get there accross the board15:21
portdirectok lets move on: docs15:21
portdirect#topic docs15:21
jayahn2020, at the 10 years anniversary of openstack, we finally go to python315:21
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portdirectso - I need to hold my hands up here15:21
jayahndocs.. i probably too15:21
portdirectas I've stalled in this effort15:22
portdirectjayahn: no worries we are both as bad as each other15:22
portdirectI'll try to get the contents fleshed out this week15:22
portdirectso from next week we can start on content porting/creation15:22
jayahnsince ianychoi is back to i18n PTL, he said he will help us more.15:23
portdirectnice15:23
portdirectplease keep an eye on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634944/15:23
portdirecti PROMISE to get it moving again :)15:23
evrardjppromises only bind those we believe in them :p15:23
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srwilkers?15:24
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evrardjpsrwilkers: caustic sense of humor, don't mention it15:25
portdirectthink it translates to `If you believe that, you'll believe anything.`15:25
portdirectthx evrardjp ;)15:25
portdirectI'll try15:25
jayahnit sounds like Shakespeare thing15:25
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portdirectok - lets move on15:27
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portdirect#topic reviews15:27
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evrardjpindeed15:27
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portdirectantyhign that needs attention atm, other than the images-specs?15:28
jayahni will have something next week. :)15:29
evrardjpgreat news jayahn15:29
jayahnI actually have a news. Everyone is invited to Korea https://www.openinfradays.kr/index_en.html15:30
jayahnif you want speak, just tell me. I am a chair of program committee. I will overuse my power.15:31
evrardjphaha :)15:32
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angiewangHi, can help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641144/ - Add panko chart and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641518/ - Add aodh chart? :) Really looking for approval15:33
srwilkerssure angiewang15:33
angiewangThanks!15:34
portdirectwill do angiewang15:35
evrardjpthanks angiewang already15:35
portdirectok - lets wrap up for this week, unless anyone has anything for the parkinglot?15:37
evrardjpI have nothing else, thanks for the meeting15:41
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jayahnthanks everyone15:42
portdirectthanks peeps!15:42
portdirect#endmeeting15:42
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