Wednesday, 2019-03-13

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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 13 08:00:15 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
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ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
idan_hefetzGood morning08:01
e0nehi08:01
nooryameengood morning :)08:01
ifat_afek#topic Status and updates08:02
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ifat_afekWe are past Stein feature freeze. python-vitrageclient is already frozen.08:02
ifat_afekWe should finish our work and prepare for the release candidate next Thursday (March 21). In a few days I will ask to create the stable/stein branches.08:02
ifat_afekOther than that, I have no special updates08:02
ifat_afekAnyone else wants to update?08:03
nooryameenfor me nothing new for vitrage :)08:03
idan_hefetzNothing for me as well :)08:04
nooryameenifat_afek have you checked the template issue we talked about ?08:04
ifat_afekSure, I submitted a fix, it’s on the gate now08:05
nooryameengreat :)08:05
ifat_afek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642780/08:05
ifat_afekOnce merged, we will be able to test end to end with your UI changes08:06
ifat_afekAnything else that is missing for Stein release?08:07
idan_hefetzBefore releasing, we should run our manual tests..08:07
ifat_afekidan_hefetz: of course08:08
e0neidan_hefetz: do we have a list of these tests somewhere?08:08
ifat_afekactually, maybe we should start them this week…08:08
ifat_afeke0ne: I have a list, it’s not published in gerrit… do you think that it should be?08:09
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e0neifat_afek: It's supposed to be open for sure08:09
ifat_afeke0ne: do you have an example of what other teams do? I have no problem publishing it, I just wonder where08:10
e0neifat_afek: I don't have anything in the mind08:11
e0neifat_afek: usually, all teams use tempest or some automatic functional tests08:11
ifat_afekwe have the tempests as you know, but we also like to do manual tests before the release08:12
e0neIMO, we should implement tempest tests instead08:12
ifat_afekI think most, if not all, is already covered in tempest tests. and yet…08:13
e0neifat_afek: some manual closed tests makes project not 100% openL(08:13
ifat_afekthe ui must be tested manually08:13
idan_hefetzThere's nothing like seeing that everything actually works :)08:13
ifat_afekSo maybe I can add a .rst in vitrage with the test plan08:14
ifat_afekalthough I’ve never seen other teams doing it08:14
e0nebecause nobody can be sure that manual tests will be executed08:14
e0neit could work in your case, because all team was from one company08:15
ifat_afekwriting it in .rst doesn’t promise that it will be executed, of course. this is why I keep my own list for things that I plan to do myself ;-)08:15
ifat_afekthe solution is tempest tests, of course, but I really believe that manual tests should be executed before the release. mainly because of ui issues, I think08:16
e0neifat_afek: IMO, in such case, we should not mention such tests in IRC08:16
ifat_afekwhich the integration tests might solve in the future, but not now08:16
e0neupstream project could not be partially open08:17
e0neifat_afek: I do understand that vendors could have additional tests in their distro08:17
ifat_afekthis is not the purpose, my tests are for regular devstacks08:17
e0neifat_afek: but such tests must  not affect upstream at all08:18
idan_hefetze0ne: I think you miss understood, it's just double checking, and checking for log errors, or whatever :)08:18
e0neidan_hefetz: no, you missed my point08:18
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e0neidan_hefetz: you've got some test cases for vitrage and you're discussing it in upstream IRC meeting08:19
e0neidan_hefetz: I have no idea what is it because these tests are closed and available only for one vendor08:20
e0neif the team would like to execute some manual test - we should keep the test cases and/or tests scenarios open08:20
ifat_afeke0ne: these tests are quite trivial, it’s just a long list of “do not forget to test this and that”. I’ll publish it after the meeting08:21
e0neor it will be some vendor-specific tests08:21
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idan_hefetzI got what you mean, but you are wrong these are plain devstack tests... testing the exact same features as tested on the tempest..08:21
e0neI see 2 options here08:22
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e0ne1) do not mention these tests on meetngs08:22
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e0ne2) keep them open08:22
e0nepersonally, I agree with any of them08:22
ifat_afekWe’ll go for 2 then08:23
idan_hefetze0ne: NP, i agree off course08:23
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e0nebut in such case, any contributor outside of Nokia feels like he/she missed something important08:23
ifat_afekin what case?08:23
e0neifat_afek: in case of talking about some manual tests cases which are available only inside some team08:24
ifat_afekok, we’ll solve it. the tests will be upstream from now on08:25
e0neifat_afek: thanks08:25
ifat_afekok, moving on08:26
ifat_afek#topic Denver Summit08:26
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ifat_afekWe got two more sessions – Vitrage project update and Vitrage project onboarding08:26
ifat_afekThe project update conflicts with our lab, so I asked to reschedule it08:26
ifat_afekI also asked to remove Yuval from the list of speakers, as he will not attend the summit.08:26
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/global-search?t=vitrage08:26
ifat_afekAnd a reminder: you can add topics to the PTG etherpad.:08:26
ifat_afek#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-train-ptg08:27
ifat_afekthat’s it for me08:27
ifat_afekanything else?08:28
ifat_afekhave a nice day :-)08:31
e0nesee you next week!08:32
idan_hefetzcheers08:32
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:32
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egonzalez#startmeeting kolla15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 13 15:00:57 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is egonzalez. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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egonzalez#topic rollcall15:01
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spsurya0/15:01
PrinzElvisHi all15:05
egonzalezHi, we're only 3 today15:05
egonzalezlets make this fast then15:06
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egonzalez#topic announcements15:06
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spsurya+-15:06
spsurya+115:06
egonzalezPTL proposal time has finished15:06
egonzalezOnly Mark proposed for the Train cycle15:07
egonzalezSo he is our new team leader :)15:07
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spsuryaegonzalez yes :)15:07
egonzalezis not aroun today, so we cannot say congrats to him15:07
egonzalezaround15:07
egonzalez:(15:07
PrinzElvisCool15:08
egonzalezany other new/announcement?15:08
PrinzElvisI didn’t granted for TSP15:09
egonzalezme neither, wont be able to attend denver this time15:09
egonzalezunless my company send me there at last minute, which higly doubt about it15:09
PrinzElvisBut I receive a free Ticket for the Summit15:11
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egonzalez#topic open discussion15:12
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egonzalezAny other thing needs to be discussed today?15:12
spsuryanothing from my side15:13
spsuryaI am also not able to join in Denver15:13
egonzalezso bad we all get rejected :(15:14
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PrinzElvisis that one of you used Monasca with kolla ?15:14
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egonzalezPrinzElvis dougsz and mgoddard use it15:15
alistarleI just update my cloud from queens to rocky last week, and I see there is no notification to nova-compute when neutron finish update, then openstack will be unusable until you restart nova-compute manually, should I work on this ?15:15
alistarleAs I see in the playbook, I don't know if a service can trigger another to restart easily, as the handler is only available in the role15:16
egonzalezalistarle better in main kolla channel please, will reply there you after meeting15:16
alistarleOk thanks !15:16
PrinzElvis egonzalez:  ok I'm going to talk to them because I have a project where I have to install it15:16
egonzalezif no other thing needs to be discussed, lets end today meeting15:17
spsurya+115:17
egonzalezthank you all for coming today, lets talk to #openstack-kolla channel for futher discussions15:18
egonzalez#endmeeting15:18
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