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jokke_#startmeeting glance13:50
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar  7 13:50:07 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:50
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jokke_#topic roll-call13:50
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jokke_o/13:50
jokke_#endmeeting13:50
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jokke_too early ;)13:50
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rosmaita:D13:50
jokke_looked my :49: to :59:13:50
jokke_I need more coffee13:50
abhishekko/14:00
jokke_#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar  7 14:00:04 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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jokke_#topic roll-call14:00
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jokke_o/14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
jokke_lets try this again :D14:00
abhishekk:D14:00
abhishekko/14:00
jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
jokke_#topic updates14:01
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jokke_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639376/4/goals/train/osc.rst14:01
jokke_so someone thought that this was good idea without talking to us14:01
jokke_There is again talks about moving to osc and to the Open Stack SDK14:02
abhishekkomg14:02
jokke_and funny enough glance is specially mentioned priority in that community goal14:02
abhishekk:D14:03
jokke_fear not, I have no intetion what so ever to stretch us into that14:03
rosmaitai didn't realize they don't use the glanceclient, that explains a lot14:04
rosmaitalike the "properties" image property14:04
rosmaitabut i digress14:04
rosmaitai endorse jokke_ keeping us out of this one14:05
abhishekk+114:05
jokke_we have enough to do without. At least my stand is that we keep maintaining python-glanceclient as reference interface to Images API and if someone (Monty) wants to get the SDK and osc (don't know who is driving the glance efforts) on par they can freely do so14:05
jokke_and if any of the services decides to go with the SDK they can freely contact Monty if issues arise14:05
abhishekkagree14:05
rosmaitaworks for me14:06
jokke_cool, just wanted to give you guys heads up that this is yet again on the table14:06
rosmaitait would be nice if they at least refer to our reference implementation14:06
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rosmaitathere has been some cowboy stuff going on, particularly around image sharing14:06
jokke_I haven't yet put my thoughts into that review. I would have been way too nice and polite if I did so  yesterday14:07
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jokke_We had discussion about the osc images situation in Berlin and it was made quite clear to me that they have to redo it as it just doesn't work. Which is fine by me and as long as they don't come to us with it, I'm happy to let the osc folks to go their own way on this14:09
abhishekkagree14:10
jokke_Same time I don't see it being fair to anyone for us to deprecate the python-glanceclient14:10
jokke_In my point of view nothing has changed since ~2years ago this was last time on the table14:11
abhishekkyes14:11
jokke_ok, enough of that rant, lets move on14:11
jokke_#topic release updates14:11
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jokke_big day again today14:11
abhishekkyes, glance_store version 0.28.0 released last week14:11
abhishekkglance and python-glance client should be released today14:12
rosmaitacool14:12
abhishekkwe have at least 5-6 patches waiting to be get approved14:12
rosmaitauncool14:12
abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-stein-milestone-314:12
abhishekkglance has couple of issues related image-import and feature such as cache-management and windows driver14:13
abhishekkimage visibility might need FFE as tempest patch is not merged yet14:13
abhishekkalso we need patches for release-notes and config generation,  I have added these in the TODO section of above etherpad14:14
jokke_so first of all, we do not need to tag m-3 so lets focus to get the client release out of the door today14:14
rosmaitamakes sense14:15
jokke_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602794/14:15
jokke_that's the only feature I know of that is pending approval we would need to not need to backport yet another feature after the "final" client release14:16
abhishekkshould we submit new PS to remove that white space from the release notes?14:16
jokke_tbh it's easy fix on the reno patch14:17
jokke_if you guys agree on the implementation itself14:17
rosmaitaok, let's do that then14:17
rosmaitait's got 2 +2s, so looks ready to go14:17
abhishekkI am ok with the patch14:17
rosmaitai was hoping the --backend thing could be included, but i have no objection14:18
jokke_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602577/14:18
jokke_this has not had movement since the last reviews and has 2 -1s on it, so will skip to the next release14:19
abhishekkack14:19
jokke_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601225/14:20
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jokke_I'd like to know what's going on in that one14:20
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jokke_the commit message is messy, it claims it fixes something that's broken but there is no bug for it. And I did not get any response to my concerns in past couple of days14:21
jokke_I think I kind of got the grasp of it and there might be opportunity to fix that, but in this point I'd say not to merge it as it is at least and we can definitely make backport candidate out of that if it is indeed bug14:22
rosmaitathe author has probably completely forgotten about it14:22
rosmaitaanyway, i agree with jokke_14:22
abhishekkyes, but he probably was talking about this, https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/adapter.py#L23014:23
jokke_Do we have anything else I have missed. The test env is not release blocking14:23
abhishekkjokke_, we need release-notes patch for that14:24
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jokke_abhishekk: like siad I likely got it as I think I came to same conclusion. Although I have not played around with it to confirm us indeed having issue there14:24
jokke_said14:24
abhishekkjokke_, agree14:25
jokke_abhishekk: yes we will need reno patch for the client prior to release14:25
jokke_so if I haven't missed anything and the verification is go, I'll write the reno patch after the meeting again14:25
abhishekk++14:26
jokke_it should be faster merging this time as I think rosmaita added the file ignoring to the test rules here as well14:26
rosmaita:)14:26
abhishekk:D14:26
rosmaitawe still need to merge the glance_store change, when anyone has a minute: https://review.openstack.org/64015814:27
rosmaitano rush14:27
jokke_yeah, good to keep in mind but not client release blocker :D14:27
rosmaitayep14:27
jokke_So I just wanted to be sure I haven't missed anything for the client release14:28
jokke_tried to review everything at the start of the week14:28
jokke_so please yell now if we have anything else pending you know of14:28
abhishekknothing from me that I know of14:28
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jokke_ \\o \o/ o// o/714:29
jokke_then we can lift the milestone 3 on to the table and feature freeze14:29
jokke_so FF is next week or two weeks from now? Somewhere very close anyways14:30
abhishekkFF is in same week as milestone 314:30
abhishekk#link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html14:30
rosmaitayeah, i think now14:31
jokke_woops my bad14:32
jokke_ok, what do we have on the table feature wise we have been kicking down the road until now?14:32
jokke_The visibility change by looks of it is yet another thing blocked by tempest14:33
rosmaitayeah, we need to work that one out14:33
abhishekkcache-management using v2, visibility and windows driver14:33
rosmaitawhatever happened to removing owner_is_tenant ?14:33
jokke_so the cache management is something we _need_ to get merged for this release even it has been hanging for long time14:34
jokke_sorry abhishekk14:34
rosmaitai think the cache management patch was looking good,14:35
abhishekkit is (IMO :D)14:35
jokke_ok, how about this, we're two weeks from RC1, we're currently hititng on string soft freeze so we need to be careful about that. Lets get the cache management reviewed today14:36
rosmaitaok, i can do that14:36
abhishekkgreat14:37
jokke_other than that I'm suggesting we focus on any feature review work by next Wed and we hit the panic button on next weeks meeting if we still have some FFEs we need to consider14:37
jokke_?14:37
jokke_What I'm saying is, lets give blanket FFE for anything in flight to be reviewed by next Wed.14:38
abhishekkworks for me14:38
rosmaitaok14:38
jokke_we've had enough firefighting last couple of weeks that I at least totally missed the fact us hitting FF today14:38
abhishekkso I don't need to be online today? (I am down with fever and throat infection for last couple of days)14:39
rosmaitaabhishekk: you need to get some rest, jokke_ and i can get glanceclient released today14:40
jokke_#action everyone review any glance feature work by Wed 13th. If your patch is being missed poke us on #openstack-glance and get attention to it early next week14:40
jokke_what rosmaita just said!14:40
abhishekkrosmaita, jokke_ thanks14:40
jokke_ok, lets move on14:40
jokke_ohh quick one before that14:41
jokke_abhishekk: how has the periodic jobs been looking?14:41
abhishekkjokke_, it looks good now, only one failure in last 3 days14:42
jokke_still the same failures or anything new in those 3?14:42
abhishekkstill subunit parser error only14:42
jokke_ok, that's kind of good14:42
jokke_thanks14:42
jokke_#topic glance-store swift driver PY3 encoding errors14:43
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rosmaitai wish the openstack fairy would fix the subunit parser problem!14:43
abhishekk:D14:43
rosmaitaok, thanks to bandini, i was able to reproduce the problem, and this looks like a fix:14:43
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/620234/4/glance_store/_drivers/swift/store.py14:43
rosmaitamy question is about the failing verifier test, which is expecting that b'' is going to be handed to the verifier at the end of each chunk14:44
rosmaitai can just change the test not to look for that14:44
rosmaita*tests14:44
jokke_abhishekk: in case you have not been following Brian's findings are here:14:44
jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance_store-py3-swift-driver-problem14:44
abhishekkjokke_, thanks14:44
rosmaitaor, i can change the patch to pass the empty byte to the hashers and the length computation14:45
rosmaitawhich seems kind of dumb14:45
jokke_rosmaita: so we do the zero sized read at the end of each chunk?14:45
jokke_daumn14:45
rosmaitajokke_: i believe that is what's happening14:45
rosmaitabut why it only causes that weird unicode thing at large images, i have no idea14:45
jokke_rosmaita: yeah it is dumb, but we do lots of dumb shait in/due our testing14:46
rosmaitai guess my preference is to go with the patch as is, and change the tests14:46
abhishekkagree with rosmaita14:46
jokke_fortunately adding no data to the verifier is not horribly resource consuming task if I have understood the code correctly14:46
rosmaitabut be aware that something could break somewhere sometime14:46
rosmaitajokke_: right, and that's what the code has been seeing14:47
rosmaitaso maybe the minimal change is to pass the b'' along14:47
rosmaitawhat i mean is something like14:47
jokke_So when the image is small enough and we know the size we don't do chunking. So likely it is the chunking code that we need to look into at some point and hopefully be able to eliminate those reads from the source14:48
rosmaitaif i == 0:14:48
rosmaita    result = b''14:48
rosmaitaelse:14:48
rosmaita   result = (read from fd)14:48
rosmaitawell, the "do a read and if it's 0 bytes you are EOF" is a pretty standart pattern14:49
rosmaita*standard14:49
jokke_it feels very hacky but is likely the right thing to do, specially as we actually return that empty byte as well14:49
rosmaitaok, i will put up a new patch and we can continue to think it over14:50
jokke_thanks14:50
rosmaitaalso, bandini helped me test teh buffered reader14:50
rosmaitaand it doesn't appear to work14:50
jokke_yeah I saw that conversation14:50
jokke_so no-one is just using that so far?14:50
rosmaitaguess not!14:51
abhishekklooks like that14:51
rosmaitai will file a bug and we can worry about it later14:51
jokke_Can we do the same there or is one of those Tim's finding actually finxing that part?14:51
jokke_*findings14:51
rosmaitai don't think so, buffferedreader inherits from object, not from cooperativereader14:52
jokke_ok, lets keep that in mind and we can tackle that after we have fixed this that actually breaks people.14:52
rosmaitato be clear, the bufferedreader problem doesn't hit the unicode object problem14:52
rosmaitai think it's something different14:53
rosmaitai will put details in a bug report14:53
jokke_ok, so it's not the same problem, it's just generally broken?14:53
jokke_great, thanks14:53
rosmaitayeah14:53
jokke_so even more then, lets keep them separate14:53
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rosmaitaalthough, when it's fixed, maybe it will hit the unicode problem!14:53
rosmaitacall me Mr. Optimistic14:54
jokke_well that's problem then and at least that time we will know where to look at ;)14:54
abhishekk:D14:54
jokke_this was pain to debug14:54
rosmaitayes indeed, many thanks to bandini14:54
jokke_same time kind of fun. Brought back old memories :D14:54
jokke_anything else about this?14:55
abhishekk5 minutes left14:55
rosmaitanope14:55
jokke_#topic open discussion14:55
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jokke_Anything else in general?14:55
rosmaitayeah, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/637985/114:55
rosmaitaplease look at my comment and let me know if you want me to lift the -W14:56
rosmaitai don't know if it's a big deal or not14:56
abhishekkI have seen your comment, doesn't seems to be big worry though14:56
jokke_rosmaita: no, I think I can stand behind your assesment and drop my +2 from that14:58
rosmaitaso do we just want to require a doc change also?14:58
rosmaitaor a release note?14:58
jokke_I'm not sure how big deal that is as user experience, my biggest thing about the +2 was that it wasn't breaking anything but it helped deployment tools that might have ran that generation for some audits14:59
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jokke_like just blanket run them and if we don't support it those would need to have special rule for us14:59
rosmaitain that case, since it's going to return whatever policy file is configured, should be ok14:59
jokke_that was my initial thought about it15:00
abhishekktime is up15:00
jokke_Lets add the note to the ReNo that it's not applicable ruleset without the policy file deployed?15:00
jokke_yeah15:00
jokke_that's ok for the record before I close? ^^15:01
rosmaitaworks for me15:01
jokke_kk, thanks guys!15:01
jokke_#endmeeting15:01
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