Monday, 2018-05-07

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fnordahl#startmeeting charms10:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May  7 10:00:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is fnordahl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.10:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'10:00
iceyHey10:01
fnordahlhi icey10:01
fnordahl#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting10:01
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fnordahlafaict there are no carry overs10:02
fnordahl#topic State of Development for next Charm Release10:03
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fnordahlWe are two and a half weeks away from next release10:03
iceyWhen's freeze start?10:04
fnordahlfreeze at May 15th10:06
iceyone week out!10:07
fnordahlindeed, time to get the bits in order10:07
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fnordahlmoving on10:08
fnordahl#topic High Priority Bugs10:08
fnordahl  https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs10:08
fnordahl  Use stable-backport tag for bugs  http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports10:08
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fnordahl  Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs10:08
fnordahl  High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority10:08
fnordahlNo critical bugs atm10:09
fnordahl#topic Openstack Events10:10
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fnordahlOpenStack Summit in Vancouver is coming up May 21th until 24th. We have presence there by multiple contributors10:12
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fnordahl#topic Open Discussion10:13
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fnordahl#topic Next Chair10:15
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fnordahlI believe next in line is tinwood10:15
iceywe've got a winner!10:16
fnordahlSee you all in a couple of weeks!10:16
fnordahl#endmeeting10:16
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openstackMeeting ended Mon May  7 10:16:24 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:16
iceythanks fnordahl !10:16
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-05-07-10.00.html10:16
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-05-07-10.00.txt10:16
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-05-07-10.00.log.html10:16
fnordahllater and thanks icey10:16
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dmellado#startmeeting kuryr14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May  7 14:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dmellado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:00
dmelladoo/ Hi fellow kuryrs, who's here today to enjoy the exciting world of meetings?14:00
dulekI've made it. :)14:00
danilo/14:01
dmellado#chair dulek14:01
openstackCurrent chairs: dmellado dulek14:01
yboaronHi !14:01
dmellado#chair yboaron14:01
openstackCurrent chairs: dmellado dulek yboaron14:01
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ltomasboo/14:03
dmellado#chair ltomasbo14:03
openstackCurrent chairs: dmellado dulek ltomasbo yboaron14:03
dmelladoall right14:03
dmellado#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:03
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dmelladoSo, folks, besides all the terror stories that we've been having as of lately with the upstream infra, who has something to share on the topic? ;)14:04
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ltomasboon the infra topic?14:04
ltomasboxD14:04
dulekI'm back from PTO today, I'll be catching up with reviews.14:05
dulekDon't worry, I don't delete any emails from Gerrit. ;)14:05
dmelladodulek: lol14:05
dmelladodoes that mean that you deleted mine? caught you14:05
dmelladoxD14:05
dmelladoltomasbo: hopefully not on the infra topic14:05
ltomasbodmellado, then, reviews on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/network-namespace are welcome!14:06
dmelladoI just noticed a race condition on the tempest plugin devstack plugin14:06
dmelladoheh, metaplugin14:06
ltomasboI'm working on the tempest tests for that14:06
dmelladowhen it tries to install the plugin, it doesn't get off with the docker image built before installing docker so it fails14:06
dmelladoI'm testing a patch that just delays that creation to the very end of the devstack installation14:07
dmellado#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/network-namespace14:07
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dmelladonow that we speak about reviews, danil, do you need anything taken a look into?14:08
danilyeah14:08
danilI would like to ask some questions about multi-vif & sriov patches in kuryr-k8s. I have fixed the most part of problems, core developers have mentioned14:08
danilWhat do you think, is it worth to merge these patches sequentially. I mean , first patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471012/) is fully ready as I can see. It only changes a type of pod annotation, without changes in other functionality (it is specified in commit message)14:08
dmelladodanil: shoot then ;)14:08
danilIf not, I would like to hear my forward steps in work with these patches14:08
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dmellado#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471012/14:09
dulekAww, I was supposed to propose an alternative to maybe_callback for that oneā€¦ I'll need to do it ASAP.14:10
dmelladodanil: if it just adds a type of pod annotation I'd be fine14:10
dmelladoin any case zuul and dulek give you -114:10
dmellado:)14:10
dmelladodulek: ltomasbo I see that you've been addressing comments there14:11
dmelladocould you follow up so we can iterate and start merging this soon?14:11
dulekdmellado: Heh, the maybe_callback thing can be addressed by refactor later if I won't come up with solution now. ;)14:11
danili've changed this patch according to dulek's remarks, as I remember14:11
dmelladootherwise we'll be celebrating these patch's anniversary14:11
dulekdmellado: So no -1 until I know exactly if there's a better way.14:11
dmelladodulek: in any case please do leave some comment regarding that14:11
zhangoicI have a question. When using kuryr, the kube-proxy is not necessary, is it right?14:11
dulekFor now it's just a wild hunch. :P14:11
dmelladodanil: please address the patch so it passes CI and I'll get some eyes on it ;)14:11
yboaronzhangoic, that's correct14:12
dmelladoyboaron: go ahead ;)14:12
zhangoicthanks14:12
ltomasbodanil, I have another comment about the patch, as it only adds support for the daemon based cni, perhaps it is worthy to add it to the documentation14:12
danildmellado:  I don't understand what ddo you mean, sorry14:12
dmelladodanil: the link that you passed to me14:13
ltomasbootherwise we will forget about it...14:13
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/471012/14:13
dmelladois currently not passing CI14:13
dmelladosee zuul verified -1 there14:13
dmelladoit could be a glitch on the CI but nothing will get merged until it gives +1 there ;)14:13
dmelladoyboaron: could you elaborate on this? otherwise it's just yes - no14:14
dmelladoxD14:14
danilyeap, I see. What should I cahange for that?14:14
danilhow to pass CI ?14:14
yboarondmellado, kube-procy is used in K8S for mapping service-name/IP to service's pods (actually by setting IP table rules)14:15
yboaronproxy14:15
dmelladoyboaron: I'm aware that we just use neutron for that14:15
dmelladobut I wonder if it would make sense to add that to the docs14:15
yboaronso with kuryr we use Neutron LBaaS or Octavia for that purpose14:15
zhangoickuryr support the type of clusterIP for service?14:16
dmelladodanil: so, for example14:17
dmelladohttp://logs.openstack.org/12/471012/37/check/openstack-tox-lower-constraints/0001367/ara-report/14:17
ltomasbozhangoic, that's right, and LoadBalancer type14:17
zhangoicHow about nodeport service in k8s14:17
dmelladothat seems to be an issue on the infra14:17
ltomasbozhangoic, there is no support for nodeport14:17
dmelladoso just recheck it for now14:17
danilsure, thanks14:17
dmelladoyou can also go to the openstack-infra channel14:18
dmelladoand ask any cores14:18
yboaronzhangoic, try this link #link https://docs.openstack.org/kuryr-kubernetes/latest/installation/services.html14:18
danildmellado: thanks a lot14:18
zhangoicOK14:18
dmelladoand also when you're waiting for it, you can check zuul.openstack.org14:18
dmelladoand see in real time what's going on with that exact gate14:18
danildmellado: sure, I see. Thanks. Hope this patch to be merged soon14:19
dmelladodanil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fowBDdLGBlU14:19
dmelladoslightly old but I guess watching that would still be useful14:19
dmelladodanil: in any case if you get stuck at it feel free to ping  us on the kuryr channel14:20
dmelladoI would also like to start getting the feature merged14:20
danildmellado: sure, thank you14:20
yboaronI can update on ingress controller patches..14:22
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dmelladoyboaron: go ahead14:22
dmelladothanks!14:22
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yboaronSo, I received comments from Luis&Toni, Toni's suggested to have a single driver for both endpoints and ingress/routes14:23
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dmelladohm, it's true that I'd also like to tidy up the driver section as it's quite widespread, so opverall +1 on that14:24
yboaronand it sound reasonable, my first patch is just to prepare LBasS driver before extending it to support ingress14:24
yboaron#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566175/14:24
dmelladoyboaron: thanks, I will put that to my review queue too14:25
yboaronsecond patch just adds support for the ingress controller LB manual creation fir devstack deployment14:25
ltomasbo'just' xD14:25
dmelladolol14:25
yboaron#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564051/14:25
dmelladoltomasbo: don't tell me that is one of 'these' patches14:26
* dmellado opens it waiting for 300+ loc14:26
dmelladoltomasbo: 117, could've been much bigger14:26
yboaronI have two more patches in the oven to support ingress controller and the second for ocp-route handler14:26
* dmellado just recalls about .zuul.yaml and the fact that he needs to rebase the split patch14:26
ltomasboI thought it was the next one!14:26
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yboaronltomasbo, did you mean to the ingress controller patches or something else14:27
dmelladoheh, you were surprised, just like me when I was told that apuimedo passed customs in the end14:27
ltomasboyep! I already took a look at both patches you just posted and they look ok14:28
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yboaronltomasbo, thanks!, I need to update #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536387/  with Toni's comments14:29
dmelladoyboaron: do you have a gerrit topic for the whole effort?14:29
ltomasboyboaron, yep, I saw that, please ping me when you have done so (I want to test it too!)14:30
yboaronI have BP14:30
yboaronltomasbo, I"ll ping you14:30
ltomasbothanks!14:30
dmelladoyboaron: awesome, I'll put some comments as well14:30
dmelladoso, anything else folks?14:30
yboaronQ: do we support devstack deployment for the nested case ?14:31
dmelladoyboaron: we're waiting for a patch on zuul to get merged14:31
dmelladoand then we'll have multinode support14:31
dmelladoplease do notice that by multinode I mean several compute nodes14:31
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dmelladoonce that that's done I'll add the nested scenario as we'll have enough capacity14:31
ltomasboyboaron, we have the local.conf files for it, but it is not tested right now on the gates14:31
dmelladoI'm not sure on the  speed, though, as the upstream infra doesn't support nested kvm14:32
dmelladoso it might be quite sluggish14:32
dmelladoso that's the current status14:32
dmelladoofc as ltomasbo said, you can try on your own if you've a machine big enough14:32
dmellado;)14:32
yboaronltomasbo, it's seems that it not tested14:32
ltomasboyboaron, it is not tested due to gate limitations14:32
ltomasboyboaron, but you can try it on your machine (if you have 16Gb or so)14:33
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/558762/14:33
dmellado^^14:33
dmelladoso, that's the patch which is waiting on its dependant to get merged14:33
dmelladowe'll be able to add more capacity and test nested upstream after it14:33
dmelladoas well as openshift-ansible installation, hopefully14:33
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yboaronltomasbo, I meant from code prespective , we don't 'clean' kuryr openstack infra resources (LB, etc) on unstack14:33
ltomasboahh, that is most probably the case14:34
dmelladoyboaron: what usecase you have in mind?14:34
dmelladoif it's for CI I'd say we just 'don't care'14:34
ltomasboyboaron, but usually I have to do 2 stacks (one for the undercloud, one for the overcloud)14:34
yboaronstack+unstack+stack for nested14:35
ltomasboso, it is hard to have a complete cleanup, though I guess if you remove the undercloud, everything is gone anyway14:35
yboaronall for the overclpoud14:35
yboaronovercloud14:35
ltomasboahh, no, for just the overcloud it will not work14:35
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yboaronOK, 10x!, do u think we should support such use case ?14:37
dmelladohmmm14:37
dmelladoyboaron: for the CI part, not really a need tbh14:37
dmelladojust for dev side it'd be nice but I don't think it's a must-have14:37
yboaronOK, I file a bug for that, and we"ll see14:38
ltomasboplease do!14:38
dmelladoyboaron: also ltomasbo looked like he wanted to volunteer for this14:38
dmelladoso you can assign him14:39
dmellado:D14:39
ltomasboyboaron, though I guess that is not easy to do unless we have kuryr resources on CRDs14:39
yboaronltomasbo, I thought to 'clean' just the infra resources first14:39
yboaronby infra I mean kury-kubernets LB, SG, etc14:40
yboaronBTW, do we have solution for that in openshift-ansible case?14:40
ltomasbobut how do you know what LBs belong to one or the other?14:40
ltomasboyboaron, in openshift-ansible I proposed this (as it is simpler as we deploy with heat templates):  https://github.com/openshift/openshift-ansible/pull/8254/files14:41
ltomasbobut it is slightly different, as we have real overcloud/undercloud also, here we call it undercloud/overcloud14:42
ltomasbobut it is more like worker node on a VM14:42
yboaronthe deployment code should know which resources were created for the deployment , right ?14:42
yboaronltomasbo, anyhow, let's take it offline, is it OK with you ?14:42
ltomasboyboaron, yep, but if you have a sg being used by a kuryr created pod, it will not be able to delete it14:42
ltomasbosure sure14:42
ltomasbolet's move to the next topic!14:42
dmelladoso next topic it's easy14:43
dmellado#topic open discussion14:43
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dmelladoJust wanted to let you know that after getting the feedback from the PTG14:44
dmelladowe won't be going there as a group, and instead we'll get to talk about whether we do a mid-cycle elsewhere, a VTG again or even both14:44
dmelladoI might go to Denver (choo-choo) again just to interact with another projects, such as infra and QA (and probably Octavia) though14:45
dmelladoif you didn't get to know the choo-choo then you were lucky and didn't get to attend that PTG xD14:45
dmelladoand I guess this finishes today's meeting14:47
dmelladoI'll save you 13 minutes of your life14:47
dmelladothanks for attending everyone!14:47
ltomasboxD14:47
dmellado #endmeeting14:48
dmellado#endmeeting14:48
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