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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 21 08:00:21 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:00 |
| idan_hefetz | hi | 08:00 |
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| annarez | Hi! | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Agenda: | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and updates | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | •Dublin PTG | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | I’m working on final release issues. I finished checking the latest Queens version and submitted the cycle-highlights. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/highlights.html | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I’m about to release vitrage-tempest-plugin version 1.0.0 (the tempest-plugins are independent of the releases), and the last Queens versions of vitrage and vitrage-dashboard. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Other than that, I started working on the resource equivalence design. I hope to submit an initial spec today or tomorrow, so it will be a baseline for the discussion in the PTG. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me. Any other updates? | 08:05 |
| annarez | I'll update | 08:05 |
| annarez | I'm working on the UI design for alarm and RCA history in Vitrage | 08:06 |
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| annarez | we will discuss it on the PTG next week | 08:06 |
| annarez | that's it :) | 08:06 |
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| annarez | idan_hefetz congratulations to you new born baby!! | 08:07 |
| Idan_Kinory | Hi | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Mazal Tov :-) | 08:07 |
| Idan_Kinory | congratulations! | 08:08 |
| eyalb | +2 | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | Toda!! thanks everybody :) | 08:08 |
| Idan_Kinory | I have a short update | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | i finally got +2 from eyal :) | 08:08 |
| eyalb | workflow +1 | 08:09 |
| Idan_Kinory | I started working on a new datasource : kubernetes. | 08:09 |
| Idan_Kinory | still working on design. | 08:11 |
| Idan_Kinory | At first step kubernetes nodes will be added to the entity graphs. | 08:12 |
| Idan_Kinory | resource equivalence is needed for this datasource. | 08:13 |
| Idan_Kinory | that all for me :) | 08:13 |
| Idan_Kinory | that's* | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks. Anyone else? | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Dublin PTG | 08:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dublin PTG (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:15 | |
| ifat_afek | I prepared a draft for the PTG agenda. Your comments are welcome. | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-rocky | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | The PTG schedule: | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_schedule | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:16 | |
| ifat_afek | Just mentioning StoryBoard again… we should migrate from launchpad to StoryBoard soon, but I didn’t have time to look into it yet | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else? | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | Short meeting this time :-) | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | bye | 08:19 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 21 08:19:51 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-02-21-08.00.html | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-02-21-08.00.txt | 08:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-02-21-08.00.log.html | 08:19 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 21 16:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| inc0 | w00t for Jeffrey4l!!:) congrats man! | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, thanks ;D | 16:00 |
| pbourke_ | w00t :) | 16:01 |
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| Jeffrey4l | are guys on the way to Dublin ;D | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| Jeffrey4l | ptl election result. | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am pleasure to be severd as PTL in the next cycle. | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | and thanks duonghq and pbourke_ can join the nomination too. | 16:04 |
| sadasu | congratulations! | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla is the hostest project with three nominators. | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | which is a good sign | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | 2. ptg meeting will be hold on next week. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | hope guys could enjoy it and next weekly meeting will be canceled. | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | 3. at the same time, kolla rc1 tag and queens branch will be created at next week too. | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | so any critical bug should be resolved and merged ASAP | 16:08 |
| mgoddard_ | o/ | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | anything else? | 16:08 |
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| caoyuan | hi | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | sup caoyuan | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | gusse no. let us move on. | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic Security bug in gates https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1749326 (inc0) | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security bug in gates https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1749326 (inc0) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:09 | |
| caoyuan | :) | 16:09 |
| hrw | o/ | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749326 in kolla-ansible "Exploitable services exposed on community test nodes" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:09 |
| rwellum | Congrats Jeffrey4l !!! | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, your floor | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks rwellum | 16:09 |
| inc0 | so fungi got msg from one of cloud providers that our memcached is open for attack | 16:09 |
| inc0 | which makes sense, | 16:09 |
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| inc0 | right now in multinode gates we drop iptables rules | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am curiosity why only oraclelinux related jobs are point out? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/tests/pre.yml#L36 | 16:10 |
| pbourke_ | wondering that also | 16:10 |
| inc0 | just a correlation | 16:10 |
| inc0 | my guess is that all of gates are in fact affected | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think so too. | 16:11 |
| pbourke_ | so... since we're moving to fernet | 16:11 |
| pbourke_ | can we just drop memcached and problem solved? | 16:11 |
| inc0 | well dropping memcached fully isn't going solve it | 16:11 |
| inc0 | it will for master, but pike and queens gates are still vulnerable | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | any i think we can do nothing for this. become event iptables rules are added, memcached port should be exported still for mulit node access. | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke_, inc0 we can not drop memcached. it is widely used in openstack , not only for uuid token | 16:12 |
| inc0 | we can add multinode gates to allow traffic only from other nodes | 16:12 |
| pbourke_ | I just mean drop it from the gates | 16:12 |
| inc0 | instead of iptables -F - add rules that'll allow all traffic based on dest | 16:12 |
| pbourke_ | not from the project | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, " allow traffic only from other nodes" +1 | 16:12 |
| inc0 | thing is, I don't think I will be able to do it, got a lot on my plate | 16:13 |
| inc0 | so looking for volunteers:) | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am afraid other project have the same issue, like mariadb. | 16:13 |
| inc0 | right, so my thinking was | 16:13 |
| inc0 | restore regular iptables rules, which were pretty strict | 16:13 |
| fungi | yeah, if you could block it on the nodes' real interfaces and have it only exposed across the overlay network that would certainly solve the risk | 16:14 |
| inc0 | and add new rule that will allow all from nodes | 16:14 |
| inc0 | fungi: we can't use overlay network tho | 16:14 |
| inc0 | not in the way it's implemented today in zuul | 16:14 |
| fungi | oh, you don't tunnel between nodes in your multinode jobs? | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | for overylay, we can set up a vxlan interface to use. | 16:14 |
| inc0 | because it uses ovs | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | and our ovs in container conflicts with ovs used by overlay | 16:14 |
| fungi | got it, namespace issues i guess | 16:15 |
| inc0 | we would need to re-implement this with linuxbridge | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | inc0, we can use overlay for api_interface and use the direct physical interface for network_interface | 16:15 |
| fungi | i think we had a linuxbridge implementation in devstack-gate which you might be able to excavate from git history if you need a starting point | 16:15 |
| inc0 | that would be best, but also quite hard | 16:15 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: or other way around | 16:15 |
| inc0 | in any case, someone would need to write it;) | 16:16 |
| fungi | but regardless, you could of course also just hardcode the corresponding ip addresses of other nodes into iptables and do direct communication between them | 16:16 |
| inc0 | I think this will be quickest | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | the root issue is: memcache do not support authorization, right? fungi | 16:16 |
| fungi | since you don't currently have an overlay to make that simpler | 16:16 |
| inc0 | and time is crucial here | 16:16 |
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| fungi | Jeffrey4l: yes, and the provider is primarily concerned that memcached can be leveraged by a miscreant to launch attacks against other systems on the internet | 16:17 |
| fungi | particularly its udp access methods | 16:18 |
| fungi | since the client address can be spoofed and used in an amplified reflection attack | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | got. i think we can implement inc0 idea, adding iptables rules. | 16:18 |
| pbourke_ | so I can propose to try and fix this during the PTG next week | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke_, cool, thanks. | 16:19 |
| inc0 | long term we could also add vxlan linuxbridge to allow networking to spawned-by-us vms | 16:19 |
| pbourke_ | hopefully if a few of us sit down together we can fix it up quickly enough | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, +1 | 16:19 |
| inc0 | pbourke_: a lot of infra people will be there, I'm sure they'll provide help if needed:) | 16:19 |
| pbourke_ | if we have trouble we can call by the infra room | 16:19 |
| fungi | as soon as possible would be best of course, but i understand that everyone's time is at a premium | 16:20 |
| inc0 | thanks pbourke_ we'll be here reviewing | 16:20 |
| pbourke_ | fungi: will you be around next week? | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke_, i think just adding a few ansible tasks throught itpables module work. | 16:20 |
| pbourke_ | Jeffrey4l: roger | 16:20 |
| fungi | pbourke_: i'll be "around dublin" next week if that's what you're asking | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | in "pre.yml" playbooks. | 16:20 |
| pbourke_ | fungi: yeah cool, I'll try say hi :) | 16:20 |
| fungi | though i tend to be stretched pretty thin between infra, tc, foundation, election officials, vmt... | 16:20 |
| fungi | but yes, happy to assist with anything you need if we can get our schedules to sync up | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks fungi | 16:21 |
| fungi | you bet! lmk if you need anything | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | we will | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. let us move on next topic | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic ptg plan https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ptg plan https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:22 | |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning | 16:22 |
| caoyuan | pbourke_ , call me, if need any help | 16:22 |
| pbourke_ | caoyuan: thanks! | 16:22 |
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| caoyuan | :) | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | please open the link | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | ptg is around the corner, we need schedule the topic agenda today. | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have three days slots during ptg. | 16:23 |
| egonzalez | sorry, was in a meeting, regarding drop memcached, we cannot do it because nova console auth need it for multinode | 16:23 |
| duonghq | who is going to the PTG? | 16:23 |
| jmccarthy | o/ | 16:23 |
| * egonzalez going | 16:24 | |
| * hrw go | 16:24 | |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, there is a attendees confirm section on the page. | 16:24 |
| mgoddard_ | o/ | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | since i can not be the Dublin, i have ask pbourke_ to hold the meeting. | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks pbourke_ | 16:25 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, I saw a guy who name is Jeffrey, it's you or other Jeffrey? | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will try to sync though mail or etherpad. | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yes. it is other gusy. | 16:25 |
| duonghq | okay, I'm recalling that I saw that guy in Denver | 16:26 |
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| Jeffrey4l | now let us focus on the topic agenda schedule. | 16:26 |
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| duonghq | should we start voting for topic? | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | please add "+1" on the topic you would like to talk on ptg | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yes. | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | since we don't have much time. let us start a rough voting. | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | let us go back to irc after 10 min, please voting the topics. | 16:28 |
| spsurya__ | Jeffrey4l: sorry, just joined | 16:29 |
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| Jeffrey4l | np. | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | spsurya__, we are priorize the topics on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning now. | 16:30 |
| spsurya__ | Jeffrey4l: nice | 16:31 |
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| spsurya__ | Jeffrey4l: hope i would be at PTG | 16:33 |
| egonzalez | anyone from k8s will attend PTG? | 16:37 |
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| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, seems no. | 16:40 |
| pbourke_ | how many are working on kolla-k8s right now | 16:40 |
| inc0 | I know kfox and jascott are on helm-summit today | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | http://stackalytics.com/?module=kolla-kubernetes&metric=commits | 16:40 |
| inc0 | but neither are going to ptg | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | no much commits recently. | 16:41 |
| pbourke_ | Id like to see an honest conversation on the future of this project | 16:41 |
| spsurya__ | egonzalez: Jeffrey4l Though i am not from kubernetes...but i have added this to my schedule on Tuesday | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | spsurya__, thanks. | 16:43 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: thx for link. /me -> own commits | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK. thanks guys for voting topics. | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have some high priority topics now. | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | we will sort it out and move them to the agenda sections later. | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyone else is welcome to add comments | 16:45 |
| spsurya__ | rwellum: around ? | 16:46 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #topic Open Discussion | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrm, bot doesn't work? | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:49 | |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, any other topic wanna to talk? | 16:49 |
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| hrw | did someone added kolla to the list for group photo? | 16:50 |
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| Jeffrey4l | tbh, i am afraid about kolla-k8s project too. not much contributor now. and we have a strong competitor, openstack-helm | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, ^^ | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw no. | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will add it after the meeting. | 16:50 |
| egonzalez | should we have a cross session with others deployment tools? | 16:51 |
| rwellum | Hi spsurya__ | 16:51 |
| spsurya__ | egonzalez: +1 | 16:52 |
| spsurya__ | rwellum: going to PTG ? | 16:52 |
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| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, i am not sure how that happen. any idea inc0 ? | 16:52 |
| egonzalez | I think we had a good discussion for healthchecks which was forgotten this release and could be really good to have | 16:52 |
| egonzalez | *had in denver ptg | 16:52 |
| rwellum | I am not going | 16:52 |
| inc0 | egonzalez Jeffrey4l yeah it was good last time | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | does anybody know what's the status of self-health-check in triplo project? | 16:53 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: feel free to reach out to PTLs of OpenStack-Ansible, OpenStack-Helm, TripleO and other deployment tools | 16:54 |
| rwellum | The main issue with kolla-k8s - is when they decided to split off from kolla-ansible - you guys are pouring new features and fixes into the project and they are not getting added to kolla-k8s | 16:54 |
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| egonzalez | asked to mandre and no progress was done in the cross project goal, guess they made some advance internally in tripleo | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, OK | 16:55 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, problem having a single repository are merge privileges, should an ansible expert(no idea in k8s) merge a change related to k8s? | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, that is a good point. But the mainly issue now is there are fewer contributor ;( | 16:55 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, same on the other way | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | we can use launchpad to track the same issue for both kolla-anaisble and kolls-k8s | 16:56 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: we should have identified a few people to do that - become experts in k8s | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | mostly, i think you are meaing the configuration changes. | 16:56 |
| rwellum | Keep the two projects synced | 16:56 |
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| rwellum | I think Serguei stopped because of the tripleo talks - he didn't want to go back to jinja templates when he'd just converted to go | 16:57 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: yes | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | does serguei go to triplo project? or openstack-helm? tw | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, ^ | 16:59 |
| inc0 | I don't know if he works with OpenStack upstream any more | 16:59 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: he has just focused on k8s - not openstack, I believe | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | i see thanks. | 16:59 |
| pbourke_ | I think there's a lot of confusion resulting from the existence of both kolla-k8s and openstack-helm | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | time is up. thanks for all guys comming. let us end the meeting and move to #openstack-kolla channle. | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 21 17:00:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-02-21-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-02-21-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-02-21-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| hrw | thx | 17:00 |
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