Wednesday, 2018-01-24

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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 24 08:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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eyalb\o/08:00
ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
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idan_hefetzHi!08:00
yujunzhi08:00
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ifat_afekAgenda:08:03
ifat_afek•Status and Updates08:03
ifat_afek•Open Discussion08:03
ifat_afek#topic Status and Updates08:03
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ifat_afekpython-vitrageclient 2.0.0 was released this morning08:03
ifat_afekIt includes changes in the templates API, and new APIs: webhooks, alarm show and get alarm count08:03
ifat_afekLater today I’ll ask to release vitrage 2.0.0 and vitrage-dashboard. All important features are merged: graph and event persistency; templates CRUD and webhooks support.08:04
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ifat_afekThe release candidate deadline is February 5-9, so we will have another release of vitrage (and maybe vitrage-dashboard) near that date.08:04
LiatHi08:04
ifat_afekBut for python-vitrageclient, today’s release should be the final Queens release08:04
ifat_afekI’ll soon ask to update it in the global-requirements08:05
ifat_afekNote that stable/queens branch was created for python-vitrageclient, but I won’t ask to create it for vitrage yet (unless you think that I should)08:05
ifat_afekIt means that master will be used for Rocky for python-vitrageclient and for Queens for vitrage – quite confusing08:05
ifat_afekPlease try not to push changes to python-vitrageclient in the coming two weeks…08:05
ifat_afekThat’s it for me08:05
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ifat_afekAny other updates?08:07
yujunzI don't have much update recently. Stuck at some internal urgent issues.08:08
ifat_afekOk08:08
yujunzSo some blueprint on my side will probably be postponed to Rocky08:08
yujunzAnd we may have further clarification on the coming PTG08:09
ifat_afekNo problem. There are no releases to vitrage-specs, so you can move the blueprints when you have the time08:09
yujunzBesides, I had a look at the healthcheck propoal08:09
ifat_afekSure, that’s a good time to put the link again:08:09
ifat_afek#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-rocky08:09
yujunz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531456/08:09
ifat_afekDo you think the proposal is good?08:10
yujunzCurrently, there are not much discussion yet. And it looks a bit sophisticated. Trying to understand more.08:10
idan_hefetzbtw, i added a new ideas"08:10
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idan_hefetzbtw, i added a "new ideas" section to the etherpad, welcome to add there...08:11
ifat_afekGreat. You mean “ideas for discussion” or just “ideas for Rocky”?08:11
yujunzI believe oslo team is also attending the PTG, so I suppose there would be some relevant discussion.08:11
idan_hefetzI guess for Rocky would be nice08:12
yujunzThat's all from me08:12
ifat_afekOk. Because we could have ideas that are simple and don’t require a discussion :-)08:13
eyalbi am still struggling with the tempest :-(08:13
yujunzI saw the patchset reaches 60 !08:13
eyalb60 patches ...08:13
yujunzIt is the largest one I have ever seen08:13
eyalbyes and it will be bigger08:14
ifat_afekEyal might have reached #1 place in OpenStack…08:14
eyalb:-)08:14
yujunzI'm curious what makes it so difficult?08:14
eyalbtests are failing08:14
eyalband also because our tempest test were written wrong08:15
eyalbdecoupling is hard08:15
eyalbwe need to refactor all the tests08:15
eyalbthats it for me08:15
ifat_afekThis is already a topic in the PTG etherpad…08:16
ifat_afekAny other updates?08:16
dwjCan it be finished in this release?08:16
eyalbdont think so08:16
dwjOK08:16
ifat_afekShould we tag a release for the new tempest-plugin repo? even if it’s not working?08:17
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eyalbI have no idea08:18
eyalbI will need to ask someone08:18
ifat_afekOk, I’ll check what other teams are doing08:18
ifat_afekSo far I think most of them only released the client libraries08:18
ifat_afekAnyone else wants to update?08:19
ifat_afek#topic Open Discussion08:21
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ifat_afekReminder - Vancouver CFP is open!08:21
ifat_afek#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126192.html08:21
ifat_afekWe can submit session proposals until February 8th.08:21
ifat_afekAny other issue for discussion?08:22
ifat_afekBye, see you next week08:24
yujunzbye08:24
eyalbbye08:24
dwjbye08:24
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:24
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Jeffrey4l#startmeeting kolla16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 24 16:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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Jeffrey4l#topic rollcall16:00
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egonzalez90o/16:00
duonghqo/16:00
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Jeffrey4l#topic announcements16:01
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Jeffrey4lwe are at the ending of this cycle16:02
Jeffrey4l#we will create m3 tag this week16:02
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Jeffrey4lany other announcement?16:03
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Jeffrey4lseems no. let's move on16:04
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Jeffrey4l#topic Deploying a cloud with Kolla for the RDO test days (dmsimard)16:05
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Jeffrey4ldmsimard, please16:05
Jeffrey4ldmsimard, around?16:05
dmsimardHi, yes I'm here16:06
dmsimardSorry, multitasking :D16:06
Jeffrey4lnp dmsimard16:06
dmsimardSo I would had liked inc0 and sdake to be part of the discussion for the sake of it but they can read the meeting notes afterwards :)16:06
dmsimardLong story short, RDO has "test days" about a week after every OpenStack milestone -- the objective of those test days is to have people test RDO in different ways through the different available installers.16:07
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dmsimardDuring the test days, the expectation is that a lot of people are available in #rdo to help, troubleshoot, document and fix bugs16:08
dmsimardIt's also a way for people that are not necessarily OpenStack developers to see what's coming in the upcoming release of OpenStack.16:08
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dmsimardHistorically, people needed to have available hardware on which to deploy on, install their cloud, test things and report back if they found anything out of the ordinary.16:09
dmsimardThis was a challenge for some people to participate because you need time, you need hardware, you need to know how to install OpenStack, how it works, etc.16:09
dmsimardSo what we did an experiment at the last test day which is explained a bit here (shameless plug) https://dmsimard.com/2017/11/29/come-try-a-real-openstack-queens-deployment/16:10
dmsimardBasically, we stood up a cloud with Packstack and invited people to come try it out for free and let us know if they found anything16:11
dmsimardWe got some good participation and feedback so we'd like to do the experiment again16:11
dmsimardNow, the reason why I'm typing all of these letters on my keyboard is because we are reaching out to the different deployment projects to see if they are interested in standing up, operating and troubleshooting the cloud for the duration of the test days (2 to 3 days)16:12
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dmsimardThis is an opportunity for the deployment projects to deploy on real hardware with real users and collaborate with the RDO community to improve stuff and work out bugs that might be found16:12
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Jeffrey4lseems the date on the etherpad is a little old. which is used for milestone 216:13
dmsimardWe (RDO) take care of the budget -- for example with the Packstack deployment we ran with a 24 core, 128GB RAM and enough SSD bare metal16:13
dmsimardJeffrey4l: yeah, that was for the last milestone16:13
dmsimardWe are preparing for the next test days which is planned around February 9th16:14
Jeffrey4lcool16:14
duonghqnice16:15
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Jeffrey4ldmsimard, is there a pre-deployed env? or a bare environment to do whatever deployment the tester want? dmsimard16:15
Jeffrey4lfor example, test centos+binary thought kolla?16:16
dmsimardJeffrey4l: so the general plan is -- we get a big enough bare metal server somewhere (unfortunately we don't have budget for much more than one server), we give some defined people access to the server and you do your thing16:17
dmsimardThe server is provisioned one day before the test day begins to provide enough time to set things up16:17
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dmsimardIt's up to you if you want to deploy with kolla-ansible, kolla-k8s or something else16:17
Jeffrey4lgot.16:18
dmsimardIdeally no one's doing this on their own, you folks figure out who has the time and wants to work on this -- you are the experts at deploying OpenStack with your project, we are not16:19
Jeffrey4lit will be good time to test RDO and kolla at the same time.16:19
dmsimardI don't have anything else for this, is there any questions ?16:20
Jeffrey4ldmsimard, how can we join it? i think we can prepare a plan about what should be tested.16:20
dmsimardJeffrey4l: there's no formal process, I will likely take this to openstack-dev and I also want to run this through the technical committee just to make sure we're not hiding anything from anyone16:21
dmsimardJeffrey4l: in the meantime, you can work out who would like to work on this, plan for availability, etc.16:23
Jeffrey4lcool i will keep eyes on it and try to prepare a plan.16:23
egonzalezCool I'll join up16:24
dmsimardok, let me know if there's any questions, egonzalez knows where to find me :P16:24
dmsimardJeffrey4l: something I forgot to mention16:24
Jeffrey4ldmsimard, we will.16:24
spsurya_dmsimard: seems good, will try soon16:24
dmsimardIs that while we'd like to trust everyone, this offer is extended only to core members of the project16:24
dmsimardAs in who we will grant access to the hardware16:25
Jeffrey4lreasonable.16:25
Jeffrey4lanything else dmsimard ?16:26
dmsimardnope, that's it16:26
dmsimardthanks for hearing me out :)16:26
Jeffrey4lthanks, dmsimard16:26
Jeffrey4lthen let us move on.16:27
Jeffrey4l#topic ptg plan https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning16:27
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Jeffrey4l#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning16:27
rwellumdmsimard: I'd be happy to stand up kolla-k8s (Sorry came late)16:27
Jeffrey4lopen the link, please.16:27
Jeffrey4lwe have few topics now. please type whatever you wanna to talk in the ptg16:27
Jeffrey4llet us focus on the etherpad for 15min16:28
rwellumJeffrey4l: "image squash" is under accomplishments for Queens - did that really happen? Also would be nice if folks added links to BP's and PS's to these accomplishments.16:30
Jeffrey4lrwellum, yes.16:30
Jeffrey4lrwellum, check https://review.openstack.org/52587116:31
rwellumThere was an etherpad for kolla-k8s version 1.0 todo list and for the life of me I cannot find it :(16:31
rwellumgreat thanks Jeffrey4l16:31
Jeffrey4lnp the only disadvantage is that squash consumer lots of disk IO. ;(16:32
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Jeffrey4lrwellum, etherpad should have a search engine ;D16:33
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rwellumJeffrey4l: +116:35
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spsurya_rwellum: what about adding multinode deployment guide enhancement ?16:40
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spsurya_seems valuable in kk8s adoption16:41
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rwellumspsurya_: yes and I think the playbook is doing this anyway - so not a hardship to add I think. Please add.16:43
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spsurya_rwellum: added16:43
Jeffrey4lthanks everyone.16:44
rwellumNow if only I can get funded to go.....16:44
spsurya_rwellum: same16:44
Jeffrey4lwe will continue this on the next meeting. and make priority before the ptg meeting.16:44
Jeffrey4lnext topic16:45
Jeffrey4l#topic bug & bp & patches before rc tag16:45
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Jeffrey4lwe will create b3 tag in this week16:45
Jeffrey4land any new bp is not allowed after this week.16:46
Jeffrey4lother WIP bp code can still be merged before rc1.16:46
Jeffrey4lsince kolla is a trailing-cycle project.16:47
Jeffrey4lthe date for rc1 tag is base on our progress. but should before Mar 2.16:48
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Jeffrey4las RDO does, we will focus on the test and fix bug during this period.16:49
Jeffrey4l#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-rc-tag16:49
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Jeffrey4li prepared this for the patches should be done/review before the rc tag.16:49
Jeffrey4lif you have patch wanna to be review. please add it in the ethperpad16:50
duonghqthank Jeffrey4l16:51
Jeffrey4llet us focus on the bp now.16:51
Jeffrey4l#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla16:51
Jeffrey4l#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible16:51
Jeffrey4li found there are pbs are out of update.16:51
charliekangCan anyone participate or core reviewers/developers only?  apologies, first time to meeting here16:51
Jeffrey4lsome may already implemented and still open at there.16:51
Jeffrey4lcharliekang, anyone is welcome.16:52
spsurya_charliekang: hi16:52
charliekanggreat16:52
Jeffrey4lso mark you bp as implemented or ask for help to the core members.16:53
chasonJeffrey4l Do we need finish this BP (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/optimize-the-documentation-format) in this release cycle?16:54
Jeffrey4lchason, yes.16:55
Jeffrey4lchason, done16:55
chasonOK, I will finish the rest of work. :P16:56
Jeffrey4lthanks chason16:56
chasonJeffrey4l np16:56
Jeffrey4lok. we are run out of time.16:57
Jeffrey4lis there anything else wanna to talk?16:57
charliekangtoo late for bugs to merged in ?16:58
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Jeffrey4lcharliekang, sorry? fix bugs is opened all the time.16:58
charliekangI just pasted in etherpad16:58
Jeffrey4lok. thanks for everybody for coming.16:59
Jeffrey4llet us end the meeting.17:00
Jeffrey4l#endmeeting.17:00
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