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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 10 08:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vitrage'08:00
ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
eyalb\0/08:00
idan_hefetzHi08:02
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yujunzhi08:02
ifat_afekToday’s agenda:08:02
ifat_afek* Status, updates and Queens roadmap follow-up08:02
ifat_afek* Open discussion08:02
ifat_afek#topic Status, updates and Queens roadmap follow-up08:03
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ifat_afekQueens release timeframe:08:03
ifat_afekThe release deadline for python-vitrageclient: January 2508:03
ifat_afekThis is also the (recommended) feature freeze08:03
ifat_afekThe release candidate deadline is February 5-908:03
ifat_afekMy updates: I almost finished the code for supporting get_attr function in the templates, and I verified that it works for Mistral workflow08:04
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ifat_afekAll I have left to do is to update the validators with the function syntax, and add documentation. I will finish it today or tomorrow08:04
ifat_afek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532274/08:04
ifat_afekThat’s it for me08:04
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idan_hefetzI will update, for a few people not present here08:06
idan_hefetzWe have three features at risk:08:06
idan_hefetz1. Graph persistancy - storing the events and acationalay the entire graph, so virtrage can be restarted and load from the database.08:06
idan_hefetzThis is important for very large deployments. this is likly to finish on time, but will be turned off by default.08:06
idan_hefetz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530650/08:06
idan_hefetz2. Template crud -  allow for template add/remove via api without restarting Vitrage. only the evaluator workers are restarted.08:06
idan_hefetzThe work in this feature is onging and may not end in time, i it will be ready despite the complexity.08:06
idan_hefetz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530640/08:07
idan_hefetz3. Webhooks - allow the use to receive notifications according to filters, this is very close to being finished.08:07
idan_hefetz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530587/08:07
idan_hefetzI think these are important features, and we should try hard to finish on time, even if it will be at the end of the version.08:07
ifat_afekI agree08:08
eyalb+108:08
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ifat_afekFor the template CRUD, we should push the new API by January 25, if we believe that the backend will be ready (the backend development can delay a bit after that date)08:08
ifat_afekI’m about to finish with my Mistral tasks this week, so I’ll be able to help if needed08:09
LiatHi08:09
ifat_afekOther tasks that I thought of taking are either the NetworkX 2.0, or to help with the tempest tests08:10
ifat_afekWe have only two weeks left for the feature freeze...08:10
eyalbI will update08:10
eyalbworking with <chandankumar> on separating the tempest tests from vitrage08:11
eyalbthis is an on going work will take some time08:11
eyalbwe already have 40 patches :-(08:11
eyalb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528528/08:11
idan_hefetzonly 40 :)08:12
eyalbwe also need to seperate the dependency between vitrage-tempest and vitrage08:12
ifat_afekby now ;-)08:12
eyalbwhich is a major refactoring08:12
ifat_afekAny chance this will be done in Queens?08:12
eyalbtempest is an e2e test should be able to run on a machine with no vitrage08:13
ifat_afekAnd any chance the tempest separation can work without the complete refactoring?08:13
eyalbmaybe I dont know08:13
eyalbfor now it can work08:13
eyalbwith workarounds08:14
ifat_afekSo you are trying to fix the build failure and hoping it will work without the refactoring?08:14
eyalbyes08:15
ifat_afekOK08:15
eyalbthats it08:15
yujunzMy updates.08:15
yujunzI was inspecting the code about state aggregation and action tracker08:16
yujunzAlmost done08:16
yujunzI will amend the suspect alarm blueprint after that08:16
yujunzThat's it08:17
ifat_afekOk, thanks08:17
ifat_afekAre you planning to implement some of the new features in Queens, or will they be postponed to Rocky?08:17
yujunzSome of the new features are easy to implement, but not as important as this one.08:18
yujunzI want to clarify this one first08:18
ifat_afekMakes sense08:18
yujunzAnd during the document review, may got sometime to work on other small features.08:18
ifat_afekOk. So some of the specs will eventually move to Rocky folder (we can do it later)08:19
ifat_afekOr maybe we can keep them under queens/approved08:20
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yujunzYes, I think we can do the movement for Rocky after PTG08:20
ifat_afekOk08:21
ifat_afekAnd speaking of the PTG - I have no updates yet. Didn’t see any email with a schedule for the PTG08:21
yujunzI also see some projects holds a backlog directory for approved but suspended blue prints08:21
ifat_afekBut you are all welcome to start adding ideas for the discussions08:21
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yujunzWhich encourage contributors to pick them up08:21
yujunz#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/backlog/index.html08:22
ifat_afek#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-rocky08:22
yujunzI didn't see update from PTG organizer08:23
yujunzBut I saw activity in other projects similar to us08:23
ifat_afekThe backlog could be an idea. But in your case I guess you plan to implement those specs, just in Rocky08:23
yujunz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-rocky08:23
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yujunzWe may copy some of its format to make the schedule together08:24
ifat_afekWhat do you mean?08:24
yujunzI mean put driver, topic, description, who's interested and etc08:25
ifat_afekOk08:25
ifat_afekWe have more than a month to plan the PTG, but I think it’s a good time to start adding ideas08:26
ifat_afekAnyone else has updates, before we move on?08:26
peipeiHi, I'll update for snmp parsing service.08:27
peipeiI have finished distributing parsed snmp traps to the RabbitMQ queue and relative test cases. This bp is almost done.:)08:27
ifat_afekGreat. Do you think it will be finished for Queens?08:27
peipeiYes.08:28
ifat_afek:-)08:28
peipei#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532381/08:28
yujunzGreat :-)08:28
peipeiCodes of alarm datasource processing snmp trap and config file are added in functional test case because there is no snmp triggered alarm in  true environment for now.08:28
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peipeiUsers can add the codes to their alarm datasource when true snmp triggered alarm is supported.08:28
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ifat_afekOk, I’ll have a look later today08:29
dwjMy updates. Still working on support Vitrage in TripleO. I try to install undercloud and then merge my code to  deploy vitrage in overcloud. But many issues of installing undercloud, troubleshooting now  : (08:29
peipeiOk.08:29
ifat_afekdwj: Thanks for taking care of it08:30
ifat_afekSounds complicated...08:30
dwj: (08:30
dwjcrying face~08:31
ifat_afekYou’ll make me cry too… :-(08:31
idan_hefetzIs this on gerrit?08:31
dwjNo, I want to pass the test and then post the code to gerrit08:32
idan_hefetzTo tripleo gerrit?08:32
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dwjYes.08:33
idan_hefetzHa, OK, good luck :)08:33
ifat_afekGood luck08:33
ifat_afekAnyone else wants to update?08:34
dwjI think it can not be finished in Queens release, so maybe it's better to  pass the test and then post to TripleO gerrit .08:34
ifat_afekI didn’t understand. The test is the first thing that you do, and then there are other tasks that you won’t finish for Queens?08:35
yujunzDo you mean test with basic integration only?08:37
yujunzAnd after it passed, there could be more steps08:38
dwjMore than 3 projects are needed  to fix and to deploy the env08:38
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ifat_afekSo you are thinking of adding to Queens whatever you manage to finish by then, and the rest will be postponed to Rocky? I think it makes sense, but it probably depends on how TripleO manage it08:39
dwjYes.08:40
ifat_afekOk08:41
ifat_afekAny other updates?08:42
ifat_afek#topic Open Discussion08:43
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ifat_afekI have one issue: I got an email regarding Story Board. Story Board should eventually replace launchpad, and some of the projects already migrated to it08:44
yujunzI've used that before in another project08:45
ifat_afekWe were asked to migrate as well. We should think when would be a good time. Personally, I prefer to finish the Queens urgent tasks first.08:45
ifat_afekIf you already know how to work with it, it will definitely help08:45
ifat_afekAnyway, I haven’t really checked it yet, just saw the email before the meeting08:45
yujunzI also think it is not urgent. Maybe we can put it as a topic on PTG08:47
ifat_afekThat’s it for now, I think08:47
ifat_afekSounds good08:47
ifat_afekAny other issue to discuss?08:47
yujunzThere is another event in March, the Open Networking Summit 201808:48
ifat_afekAre you attending it?08:48
yujunzProbably08:48
yujunzOPNFV Summit is merged into this event08:48
yujunzAny of you plan to attend it?08:49
ifat_afekI’m not sure08:49
eyalbmayabe you can "sell" vitrage :-) ?08:49
yujunz#link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-north-america-2018/08:49
ifat_afekI didn’t know about it until now...08:49
yujunzThe CFP ends on Jan 14, if you have any ideas to propose eyalb :-)08:50
eyalb"vitrage the solution for your cloud " :-)08:51
ifat_afekyujunz: are you going to submit session proposals? anything you had in mind?08:52
yujunzI have a proposal submit about OPNFV Clover project which I am currently focusing on08:52
ifat_afekBTW, I believe we will soon be asked to submit session propsals for Vancouver08:52
ifat_afekWhat’s Clover?08:53
yujunzClover = Cloud Native for NFV08:53
ifat_afekIsn’t it what OPNFV is all about? why is it a separate project?08:53
ifat_afekAnd how does it integrate with Vitrage? ;-)08:54
yujunzOPNFV is not about NFV integration and testing08:54
yujunzNot much related so far08:54
ifat_afekOk08:55
ifat_afekAny other issue? we have 5 more minutes08:55
ifat_afekLet’s close the meeting08:57
ifat_afekBye :-)08:57
eyalbbye08:57
dwjBye08:57
yujunzBye08:57
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:57
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alexchadinsuzhengwei: hi, we are on openstack-meeting-314:01
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inc0#startmeeting kolla15:58
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 10 15:58:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:58
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:58
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inc0#topic w00t!15:58
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duonghqo/15:58
duonghqwo0t15:58
inc0good morning/afternoon/evening everyone!15:58
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chmarkushello15:59
chmarkusI'm completely new to this but would like to attend the kolla meeting too, is this okay?16:00
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coolsvapAo/16:00
hrwo/16:00
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inc0chmarkus: not only okay but encouraged and great:) welcome!16:00
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chmarkusinc0, do I need to raise my arm too? :D16:00
egonzalezo/ woot16:01
gemao/16:01
inc0yes, raising and waving arm is mandatory.16:01
chmarkuso/16:01
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* gema gema giggles at the waving "arm"16:02
* hrw waves arm6416:02
chason_o/16:02
* rwellum groans at hrw joke16:03
hrwno arm32 in range ;d16:03
inc0lol16:03
inc064 arms of Kolla16:03
hrwinc0: good idea for ptg photo16:03
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inc0my managers would disagree;)16:03
hrwbut first have to find 32 users/devs16:03
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inc0anyway, let's move on to actual meeting16:04
inc0#topic announcements16:04
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inc0I'll be away for next 2 weeks or so people, Jeffrey4l will handle next 2 meetings16:04
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Jeffrey4lnp inc0 :D16:05
inc0thank you:)16:05
inc0#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning16:05
inc0rwellum was nice enough to start ptg etherpad, let's start planning sessions and what we want to achieve there16:06
inc0any community announcements?16:07
inc0guess not16:07
hrwdebian/aarch64 support fully merged into kolla - we may not have to push things into queens ;D16:07
hrwone patch left in kolla-ansible and also ready for testing16:08
inc0rocky*;) queens is current release16:08
inc0also congrats! awesome job16:08
inc0make sure to add juicy release note about that16:08
inc0and some docs16:08
egonzalezhrw, you done? awesome o/16:08
rwellum+116:08
egonzalez+116:08
Jeffrey4l+116:09
hrwegonzalez: you as Linaro team I assume ;d16:09
egonzalezyep16:09
gemawe are doing manual testing16:09
gemaand starting the ARM64 gates16:09
gemawhich may or may not make it for queens16:09
inc0let's talk about this on this meeting please16:10
inc0for now, let's move on to agenda item16:10
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inc0#topic mariadb 10.116:10
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inc0Jeffrey4l: that was yours?16:10
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hrwwe still not moved rpm distros and ubbuntu to 10.116:11
inc0ah right, and debian has just 10.116:11
hrwor in other words: debian got everything for 10.1 now16:11
inc0including tested upgrade?16:11
hrwhttps://review.openstack.org/531656 is the only debian/mariadb change16:12
hrwinc0: we do not have 10.0 setups16:12
Jeffrey4lthere is no xtrabackup in debian?16:12
hrwand no one tested centos/aarch64 nor ubuntu/aarch64 - both may be at 10.1 anyway too16:12
inc0we will need to make 100% sure we can upgrade before putting this to buntu/centos16:12
Jeffrey4laha,ignore above.16:13
Jeffrey4lmariabackup is a better choice.16:13
hrwinc0: indeed.16:13
inc0we're 3 weeks before rc1, do you guys think it's enough time to do it?16:14
duonghqinc0, have we had upgrade logic?16:14
inc0I mean, change itself shouldn't be that hard but it's data we're talking about so we should be very careful16:14
inc0duonghq: we didn't really upgrade mariadb between middle versions16:15
inc0which means we didn't really need it till now16:15
duonghqas mariadb docs, it should be done quite easy, but anybody can confirm it?16:17
duonghq#link https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/upgrading-from-mariadb-100-to-mariadb-101/16:17
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duonghqhttps://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/upgrading-from-mariadb-galera-cluster-100-to-mariadb-101/16:18
duonghqwe have galera for test too16:18
duonghqI think it's risky enough16:18
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inc0hmm...can we bump it to rocky?16:20
duonghqIMHO, +1 for Rocky16:20
inc0persistent data upgrades is not something I'd like to rush16:20
inc0hrw: debian works now right?16:21
duonghqor should we start vote on ml?16:21
gemawe have not tested upgrades either16:21
Jeffrey4lf you are running an older 10.0 version with Galera 25.2.x, it is recommended to first upgrade to the latest 10.0 version, running Galera 25.3.x. See Galera versions for an indication.16:21
inc0vote will take us even closer to release16:21
Jeffrey4lwe need confirm this at first.16:21
hrwinc0: yes16:21
inc0let's do this, if someone picks up this task with requirement of thorough upgrade testing, we might squeeze it into Q16:22
hrwJeffrey4l: so maybe let upgrade centos/ubuntu to latest 10.0 + 25.3.x and then in rocky do 10.1?16:22
inc0but we need volunteer for that. unless we find this person, it's one of first things we'll work on in Rocky16:22
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Jeffrey4lhrw i am not sure. the official docs said that. no idea why will happen if we don't do this.16:23
hrwthat way we get latest stuff in Q, people will upgrade to Q and then with R they migrate16:23
hrwand release note of R needs to have "you have to go through Q or upgrade eats your kitten"16:24
hrwkind of 'safe way'16:24
duonghqhrw, afaik, nobody in OPS world want to jump over one version :P16:25
inc0duonghq: you'd be surprised...16:25
hrwduonghq: never had to work in devops16:25
inc0anyway, openstack itself doesn't support skip version, neither will we16:26
hrwduonghq: we will do jump newton-queens at linaro clouds16:26
inc0and non-kolla to kolla16:26
hrwyep16:26
egonzalezcentos is using latest 10.0 version, we must be good with this requirement16:26
inc0you guys will have interesting times;)16:26
gemainc0: you washing your hands of it? :D16:26
Jeffrey4lthe good new is: centos is using mariadb 10.0 + galera 25.316:26
duonghqinc0, I agreed16:27
Jeffrey4lso it is safe to upgrade to 10.116:27
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duonghqJeffrey4l, good news16:27
inc0cool16:27
hrwJeffrey4l: Q or P you mean?16:27
Jeffrey4lsince ocata16:27
hrwcoolio16:27
hrwwhat about ubuntu?16:28
Jeffrey4lchecking ~~16:29
hrwubuntu has 10.0.33 + 25.3.22 at http://nyc2.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.0/ubuntu/pool/main/16:29
egonzalezrepos point to 10.0 too, is not pinned afik16:29
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Jeffrey4lcool. at least all the distro are ready to bump to mariadb 10.116:31
inc0ok, soo...anyone up for a challenge?16:32
inc0crickets16:33
gemaxD16:33
Jeffrey4lbased on the doc, what's the challenge is?16:33
inc0well bump versions and test upgrade16:33
Jeffrey4li think just like upgrade from ocata to pike ( which mariadb version is not changed )16:34
Jeffrey4ltest is need ..16:34
inc0right, that's the challenge:)16:35
inc0anyway, if someone wants to take on it, cool, if not, Rocky16:35
inc0and high priority task in R16:35
inc0do we agree on this?16:35
Jeffrey4l+116:36
hrw+216:36
chason_+116:36
duonghq+1 for make it high priority in R if we cannot make it roll in Q16:36
gema+116:36
inc0ok, cool, let's move on:)16:36
inc0#topic open discussion16:36
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chmarkuso/ may I add another topic?16:36
hrwchmarkus: go16:36
inc0chmarkus: yes, now is the time16:36
chmarkushttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/support-alpine-distro-base-image16:36
hrwchmarkus: next time add topic to wiki page too16:37
chmarkusyes, sorry need to make an OpenID account yet16:37
inc0but before we move to it, we already started discussion about different architectures16:37
chmarkusnext time ;)16:37
inc0let's finish this and we'll move to alpine16:37
chmarkusok16:37
inc0so, biggest issue for us now will be zuul support for archs16:37
inc0we'll need to work with infra to add somethign like this16:38
gemainc0: happy to take on that task16:38
hrwgema: how things are when it comes to infra talk?16:38
gemahrw: email sent this morning, PTL aligned with us but wanted to open the discussion to wider audience16:39
inc0they're really cool people and we'll figure it out16:39
inc0yeah, let's join this openstack-dev discussion16:39
gemapeople congratulating us for the work privately but no open responses yet on the ML16:39
gemait is a bad time in the cycle also16:39
gemawith the release happening16:39
gemaplus this is not something we dump on infra, we'll make it work16:40
gemaand submit patches, as usual16:40
inc0and I'm sure zuulv3 is still having hickups every now and then16:40
gemainc0: but kolla is not fully on zuulv3 yet, right?16:40
inc0it is16:40
gemaok, so starting there will be good16:40
inc0kolla-k8s is not yet, but that's not relevant here16:40
gemaack16:40
hrwthere is only zuul. same on nova16:40
inc0good news is the moment we'll figure out gates, publisher comes automatically16:41
gemagoodio16:41
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gemaso let's see what infra say and then I can start adding stuff, adding yaml files in places, and installing stuff16:41
hrwo yes. end of 'out of disk space' in a middle of a build16:41
gemaI don't want to dump this on them16:41
gemabut we'll need their expertise to make it work16:41
gemamost likely16:41
inc0you'll need their help anyway, but again, I'm sure they'll be happy to assist16:42
gemayup16:42
gemainc0: and as soon as we have the thing going, our members will happily add more hardware to it16:42
inc0PTG is close enough as well so if it turns out to be tricky, we can discuss it there16:42
gemayep16:43
inc0that's great to hear, thank you!16:43
inc0ok, anything else on this topic?16:43
gemanope, thanks for volunteering as guinea pigs :D16:43
egonzalez#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/mariadb-version-upgrade16:43
inc0thanks egonzalez16:44
inc0ok, let's move to alpine16:44
inc0chmarkus: you have the floop16:44
inc0floor16:44
chmarkusthank you16:44
inc0so on that note, we discussed alpine before16:44
inc0like 2 years ago16:45
inc0back then alpine didn't have many packages we require16:45
inc0like ceph16:45
inc0or galera16:45
inc0so it was a no-go for us16:45
inc0now things might've changed16:45
chmarkusfor my company I'm currently trying to add alpine support to kolla - I'd like to collab with you as much as possible to provide any enhancement upstream16:45
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inc0well if you guys work on it, let's do it upstream16:46
inc0many people would be happy with this16:46
inc0and I'm sure you'd have help16:46
gemayep, we are interested16:46
chmarkusthat would be great16:46
inc0biggest issue were this package availability16:46
chmarkusI'm aware that not all services/containers will be compatible with alpine16:46
hrwI think that first you need to get base image working. then mariadb, openstack-base and target all-in-one setup16:47
inc0well if some less popular services would be ok I guess, we can document that some things won't work with alpine16:47
inc0but ceph was one example of *really* important service that was missing16:47
chmarkusthe goal is to provide alpine support for every core service that proves to be compatible16:47
chmarkusI would like to fallback to other base images (e.g. ubuntu) for incompatible ones16:48
hrwchmarkus: you are adding new distro, new way of installing packages etc. so getting base may take a bit16:48
inc0soooo ceph is very outdated16:48
chmarkusI started looking into base today16:48
inc0out there16:48
inc0well due to layering if you need to fallback to different distros, you'll lose all advantages from alpine16:49
hrwinc0: are there no plans to move to ceph-ansible in R anyway?16:49
chmarkusbut aren't the services separate containers?16:49
inc0I guess compute node services are all possible to be on alpine so that's good16:49
inc0hrw: we don't have it fully planned yet16:50
hrwko16:50
egonzalezhrw, we need a upgrade path to them16:50
gemahrw: the move will happen after luminous, (according to last discussion)16:50
inc0chmarkus: they are, but alpine's big benefit is being small16:50
inc0and if you have ubuntu already downloaded, adding next ubuntu container will only consume space of layers added16:50
hrwlinaro/debian-source-nova-compute                queens-20180109     dc3287faeab7        22 hours ago        1.29GB16:51
hrwbeat that ;d16:51
inc0so having 10 ubuntu based containers will not consume 10*image size, just 1*base image + diff16:51
chmarkusinc0, okay I get your point16:51
chmarkusbut isn't it also an improvement in regards to security/reliability?16:51
inc0it will be beneficial to have compute node services in alpine tho16:51
inc0as usually they're more numerous16:51
inc0alpine over say centos?16:51
hrwchmarkus: 60 debian images (3 different base images) take 8.5GB16:52
inc0I wouldn't argue otherwise - centos/ubuntu repos are more curated than alpine16:52
inc0but having control on ubuntu and compute on alipne should be possible16:53
inc0maybe something to consider16:53
inc0I'd start with use case like that16:53
hrw:)16:53
inc0chmarkus: in any case, I'd start with some PoC16:54
chmarkusthat's what I'm planning to do16:54
inc0cool16:54
inc0I'd be interested to see it:)16:55
chmarkusgoing from base to openstack-base towards one service, let's say nova16:55
hrwgood idea16:55
inc0so try doing all compute services on alpine16:55
inc0that's nova, openvswitch, neutron, libvirt16:55
duonghqI think nova + libvirt is enough for PoC16:56
inc0yeah16:56
inc0I'm pretty sure we won't be able to make storage/control nodes on alpine at least until ceph is better supported16:56
chmarkusokay, so I guess it would be beneficial If I attend this meeting regularly for the organizational part?16:56
gema+116:57
inc0make sure to join #openstack-kolla irc channel16:57
chmarkusand discuss the technical stuff on the other channel16:57
inc0this is our day-to-day communication16:57
hrwand release early, release often16:57
inc0for harder stuff [openstac-dev] mailing list will ensure longer discussin, but broader audience16:57
inc0and welcome:)16:58
duonghqbtw, we will remove internal ceph soon, so do we still need ceph officially?16:58
inc0anyway, we're running out of time16:58
chmarkusthanks, looking forward to the collab16:58
inc0duonghq: well *if* we remove it soon then no16:58
duonghqack16:58
inc0but that's not decided 100% and won't be easy16:58
duonghqyep16:59
inc0because we need to provide migration path to whatever our new solution for ceph would be16:59
gemawe need ceph until ceph-ansible supports ARM64 :S16:59
gemawhich we are working on16:59
inc0ok, we ran out of time16:59
inc0thank you all for comming!16:59
gemathank you!16:59
inc0#endmeeting16:59
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