Tuesday, 2017-07-04

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yushiroHi all14:00
hoangcx_hi14:00
yushiro#startmeeting fwaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  4 14:00:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
reedip_Hi14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'14:00
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SarathMekalahi all O/14:00
yushiro#chair xgerman_ yushiro14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: xgerman_ yushiro14:00
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reedip_SridarK not joining today?14:01
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yushiroreedip_, I don't know that.... OK, I'll add Sridar a cheir if he come :)14:02
yushiroOK, let's begin.14:02
reedip_Sure14:02
yushiro#topic Pike14:02
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SridarKHi All14:02
reedip_Chair SridarK ;)14:02
yushiroHi SridarK  :)14:02
yushiro#chair SridarK yushiro xgerman_14:02
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK xgerman_ yushiro14:02
reedip_Ok , let's start then, pike14:02
SridarKsorry we are off today and running a bit late14:02
yushiroSridarK, oh, it's no problem just started :)14:03
reedip_No issues SridarK14:03
yushiro#topic l2-support14:03
SridarKyes local holiday in the US14:03
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doudehi14:03
SridarKi think chandan should be back this week14:03
reedip_Oh yeah it's the Independence day14:04
yushiroSridarK, ah, today is famous holiday. I know it :)14:04
SridarKyes indeed :-)14:04
SarathMekalayes, he should be back tomorrow14:04
yushiroSarathMekala, that's good news :)14:04
reedip_Ok, back to L2 support? yushiro do you need to add anything ?14:04
SarathMekala'Independence day' is the day on which the US president saved the earth from aliens ;)14:05
SridarKso with that we should have some more progress this week14:05
yushiroregarding l2-side, sorry I don't have any update.14:05
reedip_No that's Independence Day : Resurgence14:05
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yushirowe need to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478719/ before.14:05
reedip_No issues, once Chandanc is back we would have some acceleratio14:05
yushiroreedip_, and I are focusing now.14:06
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reedip_I have mentioned all the exceptions in the paste link14:06
reedip_So now we know which ones are common and which arent14:06
yushiroreedip_, thanks for your link  http://paste.openstack.org/show/614364/  here is a link reedip_ pasted about fwaas exceptions14:06
reedip_yamamoto and amotoki : request you to please provide your review comments. I have mentioned the exceptions in the review patch14:07
SridarKyes indeed - it will be good to keep them separate - but my rationale was also that v1 is something we will remove and we had a few common ones14:07
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SridarKbut in keeping them separte is defn cleaner - and we can drop the v1 file at a later point14:08
reedip_SridarK , considering that Firewall rules and Firewall policy exceptions are common between v1 and v214:08
amotokiare you all confident you and driver developers are not confused by having v1 and v2 exceptions? that is my main point.14:08
reedip_I doubt we would have too many differing exceptions14:08
xgerman_Also v1 should not see much development14:09
reedip_amotoki: there are few exceptions specific to v1 and v214:09
reedip_Several exceptions are common14:09
amotokiis around 10 few?14:09
reedip_amotoki : you counted them?? :)14:10
amotokireedip_: i see your paste14:10
amotokiv1 API is deprecated and frozen. if we have common exception definition for v1 and v2, you need to review carefully v2 exception changes without affecting v1 ones14:11
amotokiincluding error messages14:11
reedip_amotoki : I removed the recurrence and just determined the various exception classes. We do have common exceptions as well. And considering v1 is deprecated, we can focus on V2 exceptions primarily14:11
amotokipersonally I am have confidence on it14:11
reedip_amotoki: that's correct14:11
yushirov1 only: 4 exceptions,   v2 only: 7 exceptions  others: common14:12
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reedip_yushiro : if the v1 and v2 exceptions have the same error message, I think that would give confidence to amotoki14:13
amotokione way to clarify v1 and v2 is to have common exceptions/_fwaas.py and import it from exceptions/fwaas_v[12].py.14:13
reedip_Because his primary concer may be that we donot change v2 exceptions without considering v1 ones.a14:13
reedip_amotoki : so create 3 files?14:14
amotokijust my idea14:14
yushiro+114:14
SridarKamotoki: valid point - at the risk of have some repetition for now - will be clean to remove the v1 stuff when we deprecate14:15
reedip_amotoki: nice idea14:15
yushiroAfter we totally remove v1,  we migrate all exceptions into exceptions/fwaas.py14:15
reedip_Ok, let's put up a new patch by end of this meetinf14:15
SridarKthe different ones will be primarily on firewall vs firewall group14:15
SridarKwe may overlap on rules on policies14:16
yushiroSridarK, sure.14:16
reedip_yushiro: that's a different thing, which we can decide once we remove v114:16
reedip_One exception is for.firewallrouterinsertion14:16
amotokiduring the review, I noticed we sometimes use firewall and firewall group in a same context14:16
reedip_What.about that14:16
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reedip_amotoki that's v1 vs v214:16
SridarKamotoki: ^^ yes that is the reason14:17
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amotokireedip_: for example, if you see FirewallRuleInUse in the proposed neutron-lib review, it says "Router(s) %(router_ids)s is already associated with other Firewall(s)."14:17
SridarKfireallrouterinsertion is only relevant for v114:17
amotokireedip_: but there is no 'Firewall" in v2. we have 'Firewall Group" only14:18
amotokiyou say FirewallRuleInUse is common, but the message cannot be shared.14:18
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reedip_amotoki : hmm, yes14:18
SridarKamotoki: for the RuleInUse - we will need some tweaks there - once we have L2 as well and also talk in terms of router ports14:19
amotokimy point is from the point of API term definitions.14:19
reedip_SridarK : should we put so much effort ?14:20
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SridarKreedip_: that was my thought too - but if this not too bad - then we can keep it clean14:21
xgerman_Yes. People switch slowly14:21
reedip__SridarK , xgerman_ : Simple fix : Move fwaas v1 exception and fwaas _v2 exception into 2 different files14:21
reedip__when v1 is removed, just remove the v1 file with firewall router insertion exception file14:21
xgerman_+114:22
reedip__SridarK, xgerman_ : Second solution : Merge all exceptions in the single file14:22
SridarKreedip__: yes that would work ur first proposal14:22
reedip__thats what we are doing right now14:22
reedip__amotoki : I think you would also favor the first idea14:22
amotokiyes14:22
amotokiwhen i first reviewed it, i did not think so deeply. but after discussing you all on it more deeply i started to think having separate modues is better for easy maintenance.14:22
reedip__amotoki : same with me :)14:23
SarathMekala+114:23
reedip__ok, lets put up the patch and move on. L2 support yushiro :)14:23
yushiroOK, so ,  we should split v1 and v2 exceptions  and split files14:23
reedip__yep14:23
amotokinote that having common file is just optional14:24
SridarK+1 - reedip__ i think we can keep it simple - if there is some redundant stuff that is fine too14:24
SridarKand we can remove the v1 file when we eol v114:25
amotokione question: does neutron-lib patch block some effort in fwaas side?14:25
yushiroamotoki, yes.  We'll check carefully like 'RuleInUse' case ..14:25
reedip__amotoki : it kind of does14:25
reedip__there are some patches in fwaas which depends on the neutron-lib patch14:26
yushiroamotoki, last week, Jenkins job didn't work correctly even if I specified 'Depends-On'14:26
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SridarKi think mainly we want to also move fwd to undo the revert from neutron-lib14:26
reedip__+1 SridarK14:26
yushiro+1  we should solve it regarding networking-midonet too.14:27
SridarKok good i think we have a plan14:27
amotokiyushiro: neutron-lib is maintained under upper-constraints, so Depends-On neutron-lib patch does not work now14:27
reedip__yushiro  did find that issue last week :)14:28
yushiroamotoki, I see.14:28
amotokiit is a known pain point, but we need to explore how..14:28
yushiroreedip__, awesome :)14:28
reedip__amotoki : do we need the docstring ?14:28
reedip__:)14:28
amotokireedip__: I think it depends on a situation.14:29
reedip__amotoki14:29
reedip__amotoki : ok14:29
amotokiif we have same content in docstring and message, i am not sure it is useful...14:29
amotokiif we have,i think docstring provides more detail description.14:30
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yushiroaha, like RuleInUse for v1 and v2, it may enough only 'messages = '14:30
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reedip__SridarK , if firewallRouterInsertion is only for fwaas_v1, should we have a new file for it or keep it in firewall_V1 ?14:31
SridarKi think keep it simple lets put it in v114:32
reedip__amotoki : FirewallRouterInsertion is a different extension but only used with fwaas_v114:32
yushiro+114:32
reedip__ok14:32
amotokireedip__: not sure about FirewallRouterInsertion? did I raise something on it?14:32
reedip__I am putting up the new iteration14:32
reedip__amotoki : no, you didnt. I was just giving the information as JFYI :)14:32
amotokireedip__: i see14:33
yushiroreedip__, OK, let's determine how we split files for exceptions.  1: v1, v2  or  2:v1, common, v214:33
yushiroin this meeting14:34
reedip__yushiro : 114:34
reedip__v1 and v214:34
yushiro+1  I think 'simple is the best' too14:34
reedip__its easeir to remove14:35
yushiroOK!!14:35
yushiroso, we can move forward.14:35
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amotoki:)14:35
yushiroOK, next topic.14:35
yushiro#topic Horizon support14:36
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yushiroSarathMekala, :)14:36
SarathMekalaamotoki, has given review comments on my patch14:36
SarathMekalathanks amotoki14:36
yushiro#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475840/14:37
SarathMekalaI am working on them.. will post an update soon.. I could not spend much time this week14:37
amotokiSarathMekala: I fixed your patch on points related to dashboard split out14:37
SarathMekalayes, thanks amotoki14:37
amotokiSarathMekala: I think all remaining things are not directly related to the dashboard spit out. if you have trouble to fixing them let me know14:38
SarathMekaladid you get a chance to try out the dashboard...14:38
amotokime?14:38
SarathMekalayes.. you can try it out with tox14:38
amotokiI haven't tried it yet. I have pending horizon reviews on trunk and qos..14:39
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SarathMekalaok14:39
amotokii have some annoncement on v1 stuff14:40
SarathMekalaamotoki, go ahead14:40
amotokihorizon fwaas stuff has been dropped yesterday14:40
hoangcx_amotoki: SarathMekala Today I tried the new repository with v1 to make sure it run but failed14:40
amotokisecond, i believe the split out dashboard works well14:40
amotokihoangcx_: really? let me share the detail14:41
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amotokithird, (if any pending issues) I'd like to release the first neutron-fwaas-dashboard this week or the next.14:42
amotokihoangcx_: I will test it with the latest horizon and fwaas-dashboard tomorrow14:42
hoangcx_amotoki: Yeah. I follow this guide: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas-dashboard/tree/master/devstack#how-to-enable-fwaas-v1-dsashboard14:42
hoangcx_amotoki: OK, thanks14:43
amotokihoangcx_: thanks for trying it14:43
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hoangcx_In case it run, I will continue with v2 patch from SarathMekala14:43
hoangcx_that's all from me14:44
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SarathMekalahoangcx_, I havent tried v2 patch via the devstack flow14:44
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SarathMekalaI will resend the instructions to try out the dashboard to the team, you can try it out14:44
hoangcx_SarathMekala: OK. Thank you. eventually that is our intention :-)14:45
amotokiSarathMekala: updates on in-tree doc and/or devstack plugin would be great :)14:45
SarathMekalayes14:45
SarathMekalasure amotoki, i will work on it this week14:45
SarathMekalawill ping you on mail if i face any issues14:46
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yushiro+114:46
robcresswellI tend to write simple bash scripts to let people install plugins easily, on the couple I've done before :)14:46
robcresswellIt helps when you want non-UI folk to test14:46
SarathMekalahi robcresswell :)14:46
robcresswello/14:47
robcresswellSomething like https://github.com/openstack/horizon-cisco-ui/blob/master/dev_install.sh, can be quite handy to get people started quicker.14:47
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robcresswellFor simple installations/ trials, ofc.14:47
robcresswellAnyway, sorry for interruption, just wanted to reference that :)14:47
reedip__thanks robcresswell .... this might work well14:48
SarathMekala:) thanks for the info14:48
yushirorobcresswell, no warries :)14:48
SridarKrobcresswell: u are always welcome to drop in and join the party anytime :-)14:48
robcresswell\o/14:48
yushirorobcresswell, thanks for your good information :)14:48
SarathMekalayushiro, go ahead.. nothing more from my side14:49
yushiroSarathMekala, OK, thanks14:49
yushiro#topic Stadium Compliance14:49
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yushiroanything else to discuss?  I think  it is OK to skip.14:50
SridarKi think we are on track - to undo the revert in steps14:50
SridarKreedip__: thx for taking this on14:50
reedip__SridarK : you already thanked me last week !14:50
reedip__:D14:50
SridarK:-)14:50
reedip__let me complete it first14:51
SridarKan extra thx will cause no pain as opposed to the lack of gratitude14:51
amotokiif you have any update on the stadium compliance, feel free to send a patch on fwaas stautus to neutron-specs14:51
SridarK:-)14:51
yushiroyes14:51
amotokiwith title like "pike assessment".14:51
reedip__amotoki : Yes, we are trying to press it up14:51
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hoangcx_Like this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452032/14:52
SridarKreedip__: and if we need to get together for some group debugging or discussion pls feel free to propose this time on any day14:52
yushiroOK, let's keep on reviewing migration/revert patch for neutron-lib.14:52
yushiro#topic performance improvement14:53
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reedip__right now lets get the neutron lib patch merged first14:53
SridarK+114:53
yushiroreedip__, +114:53
yushirohoangcx_, anything else to inform?14:54
hoangcx_yushiro: I think we can drop this topic until FWaaS v2 is in shape as we are almost done for v114:54
yushirohoangcx_, OK.  I think so too.14:54
yushiro6 minutes left.14:54
hoangcx_I and cuongnv now are adopting the solution to SG in neutron14:54
hoangcx_almost OK, just waiting for review from neutron cores14:54
SridarKhoangcx_: are u targetting this for Pike ?14:55
hoangcx_Yes. for SG14:55
SridarKgreat14:55
hoangcx_SridarK: That is my intention14:55
yushirohoangcx_, and coungnv are superman :)14:55
SridarK+114:55
yushiro#topic Open Discussion14:55
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amotokii have some announcement on my docs hat.14:56
yushiroamotoki, sure.14:56
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amotokias you may know, doc-migration spec is ongoing and the latest status was post by doug http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119221.html14:56
amotoki /developer/<project> will be redirected to /<project>/latest now14:57
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amotokiwe also need to move our contents to the new standard proposed in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html14:57
amotokiis anyone interested in working on this?14:57
amotokii can propose a patch but need someone familiar with the current status of the document.14:58
yushiro+114:58
amotokifeel free to ping me if you are interested.14:58
SridarKamotoki: ok lets see how we can take this on14:59
SridarKamotoki: thx for the info14:59
doudeHi, I opened a bug about that fwaas service plugin does not offer a plugable backend driver mechanism and is hard linked to the Neutron DB model14:59
yushirofolks, let me cleanup our meeting agenda's topic in #openstack-fwaas14:59
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reedip__amotoki : please provide your reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478719/11  .14:59
doudehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170231214:59
openstackLaunchpad bug 1702312 in neutron "[FWaaS v2] Does not work with core plugin non based on Neutron DB model" [Undecided,New]14:59
reedip__doude : saw that bug, but need to discuss more on it14:59
SridarKdoude: thx14:59
doudeI have a code draft to propose14:59
yushirodoude, thanks for your link14:59
doudenot yet push some bug persits for the moment14:59
SridarKdoude: lets discuss on launchpad15:00
doudeok15:00
yushirooh, this is time.15:00
SridarKalso quickly on PTG15:00
yushiro#endmeeting15:00
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amotokior #-fwaas15:00
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doudeI hope to push that draft in the afternoon15:00
doudebye15:00
SridarKfolks able to make it to PTG ?15:00
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reedip__lets discuss on the fwaas channe;15:00
xgerman_Not sure yet15:00
SridarKok15:00
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EmilienMno puppet meeting this week, no topic15:02
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  4 17:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'17:00
gibihi17:00
gibibased on the fact that today is 4th of July I don't expect Matt to show up17:00
gibido we have anybody else?17:01
gibiif not then I wil just leave the link of my weekly mail here17:02
gibi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119210.html17:02
gibithis has the info I have17:03
gibiso let's close this17:04
gibi#endmeeting17:04
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