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yushiroHello all,14:00
SarathMekalahi all14:00
yushiro#startmeeting fwaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 30 14:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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SridarKHi All14:01
yushiro#chair SridarK yushiro xgerman njohnston14:01
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: njohnston14:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro14:01
vks1hi all14:01
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xgermano/14:01
SridarKLets get started14:01
hoangcxhi14:01
SridarKyushiro: i think today is my turn to run the mtg ?14:02
yushiroSridarK, yes, it's your turn :)14:02
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SridarK#topic FWaas v214:02
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chandancSorry i am late14:02
SridarKlets review state quickly14:03
SridarKchandanc: no worries , just in time14:03
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SridarKchandanc: pls go ahead14:03
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chandancI investigated the race condition issue, and we have basically 2 solution14:04
chandancI hope you got a chance to lok at the mail14:04
yushirochandanc, Yes, thanks for your research and e-mail.14:04
chandancWe can either patch the ovs agent or a quicker way to unblock may be to directly fetch the vlan tag from localvman manager14:05
chandanc*localvlan14:05
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chandanci think this can be done in the agent extension ? what do you think ?14:06
SridarKchandanc: how do we ensure that the vlan has been configured14:07
chandancthe agent extensions are called after the vlan allocation is done, i think the delay is in ovs getting configured14:08
SridarKdo u mean that on the agent side we are guaranteed but only w.r.t ovsdb is a problem ?14:08
chandancya that is what i could see in the ovs agent code14:08
SridarKchandanc: ok grt, in that case things could be simpler14:09
chandancya, 1 sec let me find the code link14:09
yushirochandanc, thanks. it'll be helpful.14:09
chandanchttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py#L152514:10
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chandancplease let me know is this approach is acceptable14:11
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chandancAlso any comments on the driver patch will also be helpfil14:11
chandanci saw a code review -1 from paddu, i will reachout to him for discussion14:12
SridarKchandanc: makes sense14:12
SridarKchandanc: do u think u can pursue this week so we can get to some closure14:13
SridarKwe may need to do some more testing along this path as well14:13
chandancSure, i can push for it,14:13
SridarKoff the top this looks reasonable to me14:13
chandancDo you have any comments on the patch, as per our discussion we are going to hold on the changes for co-existance right ?14:14
SridarKchandanc: yes agreed14:14
yushiroOK.14:14
SridarKlets get the basic use case functioning b4 we head to co-existence14:14
SridarKok good chandanc anything else u would like to discuss ?14:15
chandancOk then, please let me know if you need any more changes, i will start a integration test with l2 agent14:15
chandancno that should be all14:15
SridarKchandanc: ok good lets move on14:15
SridarKyushiro: would u like to discuss DFWG and other changes14:15
yushiroSridarK, Regarding DEF FWG, I didn't change except nit fix.  Ah, I'd like to give some opinion of firewall_rule.14:16
SridarKyushiro: ok pls go ahead14:17
yushiro#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425769/14:17
yushirohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/425769/17/neutron_fwaas/db/firewall/v2/firewall_db_v2.py14:17
yushiroPlz check Line#345~~14:17
yushiroNow there are IPv4/IPv6 rules for ingress/egress.14:18
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SridarKyushiro: yes14:18
reedip_Hi sorry14:19
reedip_just joined in14:19
SridarKyushiro: we talked abt dhcp responses14:19
yushiroSridarK, Yes, exactly.14:19
reedip_damn trFFIC14:19
SridarKreedip_: no worries14:19
xgermanreedip_ autonomous cars :-)14:20
reedip_still, traffic ! :(14:20
yushiroIn order to pass DHCP packet in booting VM, it is enough to allow only egress? (Currently, I'm not sure and not tested..)14:20
yushiros/it is/is it14:20
yushiroI want some comments with DHCP packet perspective.14:21
xgermanmmh, I think you need both. Isn’t DHCP some UDP thing?14:21
vks1xgerman: indedd its UDP pkt and it need to be allowed on 67/68 port14:22
SridarKyushiro: yes lets look at it - and be in alignment with Security Groups14:22
vks1also, what about ARP pkts ?14:22
yushiroxgerman, SridarK, vks1  OK, thanks.  I forgot SG :) hahaha14:23
xgermanvks1 not sure about those. Neutron itself is not very good with arp14:23
vks1yushiro: I have one question though how this DFWG co-exist with SG. I mean how we jusify the use case14:24
chandancthe ARP and DHCP 67/68 are required to be allowed14:24
xgerman\me recommends this blog series for ARP in Neutron: https://ihrachyshka.com/2017/05/17/gratuitous-arp-for-openstack-neutron/14:24
chandancthanks xgerman14:25
yushirovks1, Ex. in DVR environment, we should apply fwg into ports.14:26
SarathMekalaxgerman, +114:26
vks1yushiro: I was asking isn't that going to be reduntant14:26
SridarKvks1: yes it is but we are like a logical AND operation when we have co-existence14:27
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SridarKSG AND FWaaS need to permit for a permit14:27
vks1SridarK: I was just curious about the purpose it serves14:28
SridarKvks1: yes u are correct14:28
SridarKif we always coexist - we can possibly take a short cut14:28
SridarKbut since some may not enable SG - we will need this redundant behavior14:29
vks1SridarK: more than anything , can it cause confusion to operator in deployment ?14:29
vks1*operators14:29
SridarKvks1: agreed but we need to message that correctly14:30
xgerman+114:30
SridarKit is likely eventually we may get to a point where only one of these features will be used or exist14:30
SridarKbut that is a long term horizon14:31
reedip_ok , I just read the logs14:31
SridarKyushiro: but back to ur point - we will need to close this14:31
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SridarKso we are in alignment with SG14:31
yushiroSridarK, ok.14:31
reedip_I agree, DHCP reedip request/response and ARP req/res need to be by-passed on booting the VM with default fwg14:32
yushirochandanc, Regarding DHCP packet,  can we apply ovs rule as 'default flow rule' ?14:32
yushirochandanc, not to 'firewall rule'. ( sorry, it is hard to tell ..)14:32
chandancthe DHCP and ARP are part of the basic rules in ovs firewall driver14:33
chandanchttp://paste.openstack.org/show/606135/ line 4414:34
yushiroSridarK, chandanc I'm confusing that should we prepare firewall-rule such DHCP packet or apply ovs flow rule without firewall-rule.14:34
xgermanSG won’t show those rules14:34
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yushiroxgerman, Ok, so, I'll align with SG ?14:35
yushiros/?//14:35
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chandancsure14:35
SridarKyushiro: +114:35
reedip_SG wont be configured for those rules either14:35
reedip_SG allows ARP and DHCP when the VM boots up14:35
reedip_SG wont be configured for those rules either14:36
reedip_ SG allows ARP and DHCP when the VM boots up14:36
yushiroreedip_, thanks.14:36
SridarKyes it is under the covers and we should adopt the same model14:36
xgermanSG allows ARP egress all the time14:36
reedip_xgerman : ARP request egress, right ?14:37
SridarKsounds good lets move on - i think we have clarity on the approach14:37
chandancSridarK: +114:37
reedip_or all ARP egress14:37
yushiroSo, default fwg patch is ready for merge.  So, I'll add more UTs.14:37
xgermanrequest egress14:37
SridarKyushiro: anything else u want to discuss14:37
SridarKyushiro: +114:37
yushiroSridarK, nothing for me.14:37
SridarKok lets move on14:37
SridarK#topic Pike/neutron-lib14:38
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SridarKreedip_: pls go ahead14:38
reedip_SridarK , yushiro: any use case for IPv6 for DFWG14:38
reedip_?14:38
reedip_Well , I had to create a small hack14:38
reedip_rest https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456511/ is ready now14:38
SridarKreedip_: i think on ipv6 we just maintain consistency with SG for now14:38
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reedip_there is a bug in tempest test cases which I need to look at, but I have logged a bug and skipped it for now14:39
reedip_in neutron-lib14:39
SridarKok sounds good and Jenkins is happy14:39
reedip_Please review it so that we can accelerate its inclusion :)14:39
SridarKreedip_: will do14:39
yushiroreedip_, SridarK, sure14:40
yushiroreedip_, I'll do it tomorrow14:40
SridarKok good anything else reedip_ on this topic ?14:40
reedip_Rest, I will now focus on the other stuff which njohnston kept open like Fullstack Tests ( It is also working but it is creating log in wrong locations, so need to twist it a bit )14:40
SridarKok perfect14:40
reedip_SridarK : Nothing else for now14:40
SridarK#topic other reviews needing attention14:40
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SridarKvks1: lets start with u14:41
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458723/14:41
vks1SridarK: you wanted to discuss14:41
SridarKi think u are done14:41
SridarKyes i just had a minor nit14:41
SridarKi wanted some clarification on v1 and v214:41
vks1SridarK: please go ahead14:41
SridarKi see changes in v2 plugin14:42
SridarKhow do we handle v114:42
SridarKi have been meaning to connect with u and thought it best to atleast bring it up b4 i forget again14:42
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vks1SridarK: for v1 I don't think we have any provider_config sort of settings14:43
SridarKhmm so we dont need to add it ?14:43
reedip_vks1 : the config file is for both v1 and v2 right?14:43
SridarKreedip_: +114:44
vks1SridarK: but lets say if we want to use this config file with v1 , there shud not be issue14:44
SridarKthat was my confusion14:44
reedip_if so, can you add a small nit in the the reno file?14:44
vks1reedip_: please suggest14:44
SridarKvks1: yes we shd support both as parallel paths14:44
reedip_vks1 : as of now I think it is being used for both v1 and v214:44
vks1SridarK: the config file can be used for both, but corrsponding implementation should be added in plugin14:45
SridarKif we had a v1 deployment how would this take effect ?14:45
SridarKvks1: yes exactly14:45
reedip_I do not think we are differentiating in the file14:45
reedip_vks1 : this needs to be notified that this is for V2 only14:45
reedip_in the release note14:45
SridarKreedip_: yes that is fine14:45
reedip_so that user do not use it for V1 expecting any changes14:46
SridarKreedip_: hmm why do it for v2 only ?14:46
reedip_SridarK: In the current implementation ... if we are going to continue with v1 and v2, then no changes in reno14:46
SridarKunless we are saying that it is on its way out14:46
SridarKreedip_: ok14:46
reedip_SridarK : Have we dropped the mail for V1 deprecation yet?14:47
vks1SridarK: reedip_: currently this patch is agnostic of v1 or v2. Its just a placeholder now, until we go and add some code14:47
reedip_vks1 : Exactly .. but we have added support for v2 in it :)14:47
reedip_means the config is workable with both v1 and v214:48
reedip_and v2 plugin support exists in this patch14:48
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reedip_:)14:48
vks1SridarK: I introduced in PS1 quota but there were comments to not to introduce that int his patch14:48
reedip_means you have 2 functionalities in the same patch if looked at the micro level :)14:48
vks1reedip_: yeah but oslo option for both v1 and v2 can't coexist14:48
SridarKhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/458723/12/neutron_fwaas/services/firewall/fwaas_plugin_v2.py14:48
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SridarKL#3714:48
SridarKdo we need this in the v1 plugin as well ?14:49
vks1SridarK: v2 imports v1 and it cause duplication of oslo config and it breaks14:49
SridarKso whichever is enabled (v1 or v2)14:49
SridarKvks1: ouch14:49
SridarKhmm i wonder abt that14:49
vks1SridarK: the moment you enablev2 v1 also gets imported14:49
SridarKok now i see ur issue - let me go look at why we do that14:50
reedip_vks1 :really , then we should modify it :)14:50
SridarKthat seems blasphemy to me :-)14:50
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SridarKi see ur issue now14:50
reedip_SridarK : not the exact way of OOP :)14:50
SridarKok good let me go do some digging  too - this might be an oversight from some early development to get us to move fwd14:50
reedip_Sorry , it is exactly OOP :)14:50
SridarKi thought it more like "oops" !!14:51
reedip_hehehehe14:51
SridarK:-)14:51
SridarKvks1: ok let me dig some more14:51
reedip_vks1 : maybe you can put a bug for the same ( where v2 imports v1 )14:51
SridarKand see the quickest way fwd so we dont delya ur patch14:52
hoangcxSo, what is about my curious question ?14:52
reedip_hoangcx : shoot :)14:52
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hoangcxreedip_: i commented on the patch :-p14:52
hoangcx"Just a curious question: Do we need to decouple fwaas_agent.ini as lbaas, vpnaas... also?"14:52
reedip_hoangcx : lemme check , I forgot :)14:53
hoangcxvks1 just supported decoupling .conf but .ini14:53
vks1hoangcx: it would be gud , so this ini file will be with l3agent14:54
hoangcxvks1: right14:54
vks1SridarK: reedip_: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/blob/master/neutron_fwaas/extensions/firewall_v2.py#L2814:55
reedip_vks1 : but thats the fwaas extension14:56
reedip_we can change that14:56
SridarKvks1: ok i think the line above may explain this14:56
vks1SridarK: reedip_: please look into this. yeah14:56
SridarKvks1: yes will do14:56
vks1SridarK: no blasphemy :)14:57
reedip_SridarK : just a minor patch, wont hurt much14:57
SridarKwe should not have import incest in this manner14:57
SridarK:-)14:57
reedip_but a good catch vks1 ... I saw it but missed it14:57
SridarKvks1: good this brought this out14:57
SridarKok lets move on14:57
SridarKwith time14:57
reedip_and this can be integrated in the neutron-lib patch itself where the whole code is being reworked14:57
SridarK#topic Open Discussion14:57
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vks1reedip_: grt14:57
SridarKreedip_: +114:57
reedip_ok , will do ...14:58
vks1hoangcx: you were telling something14:58
SridarKsorry hoangcx go ahead14:58
hoangcxvks1: No, I'm OK with that :-)14:58
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SridarKor u and vks1 can discuss on gerrit14:58
yushirochandanc, if you reach out to paddu, could you add CC to me?14:59
chandancsure will do yushiro14:59
yushiroI also need to sync up with him about l2-agent patch14:59
SridarKok we are at time14:59
reedip_yushiro : you pinged me last week , sorry I missed it14:59
SridarKthx for joining14:59
yushiroreedip_, NP!!!14:59
SridarKbye all15:00
SridarK#endmeeting15:00
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